Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 OM BRIHASPATAAYE NAMAH Dear Visti, Chandreshekar and Gurus, From many modern texts, Jyotish is referred to as etymologically coming from the sanskrit word -Jyotir - light and ishwara-God =meaning Light of god. Recently I was told by a sanskrit scholar that Jyotish has no indication or link to the word Ishwara. From Monier Williams : Jyotis, Jyotir, Jyotish, Jyoti............light, brightness, illumination Jyotis-Light in the three worlds. plural- the heavenly bodies Jyotisha- the science of the heavenly bodies Could anyone enlighten me as to whether the 'ish' in Jyotish came from Ishwara or not?Or where it comes from? Kind regards Rosemary Innes-Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Dear Rosemary, In the Puranas, the planetary bodies are referred to as jyotishas, 1.e. bodies which emanate (whether by origin or by reflection) jyot/jyoti or light. Jyotishchakra is the term used specifically to describe the zodiac, the grahas, nakshatras etc. There are 3 kinds of ‘s’ in Sanskrit. Isha is spelled with a talavya sha, that is the ‘s’ used to spell Shiva, Shava, Shveta etc. The ‘s’ used to spell jyotisha is a different one, so the word Isha of jyotish and Isha of Ishwara are two different ones. Ishwara is not referred to here at all. Best regards, Sarbani R Innes-Jones [rf.innes-jones] Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:47 PM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Meaning of word Jyotish- the Entymolgical Roots OM BRIHASPATAAYE NAMAH Dear Visti, Chandreshekar and Gurus, From many modern texts, Jyotish is referred to as etymologically coming from the sanskrit word -Jyotir - light and ishwara-God =meaning Light of god. Recently I was told by a sanskrit scholar that Jyotish has no indication or link to the word Ishwara. From Monier Williams : Jyotis, Jyotir, Jyotish, Jyoti............light, brightness, illumination Jyotis-Light in the three worlds. plural- the heavenly bodies Jyotisha- the science of the heavenly bodies Could anyone enlighten me as to whether the 'ish' in Jyotish came from Ishwara or not?Or where it comes from? Kind regards Rosemary Innes-Jones |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Rosemary, Kumbha means pot, and is one of the Sanskrit names for Aquarius. Mela, Méle means meeting. Kumbha Mela refers to the yearly gathering of people around the Mahakaleshvara Linga. There are specific times of year when this happens and once every 12 years, when Jupiter is In Aquarius this becomes a very significant event. You can easily find information on this on the internet. Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti R Innes-Jones [rf.innes-jones] 24 June 2004 13:17 varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Meaning of word Jyotish- the Entymolgical Roots OM BRIHASPATAAYE NAMAH Dear Visti, Chandreshekar and Gurus, From many modern texts, Jyotish is referred to as etymologically coming from the sanskrit word -Jyotir - light and ishwara-God =meaning Light of god. Recently I was told by a sanskrit scholar that Jyotish has no indication or link to the word Ishwara. From Monier Williams : Jyotis, Jyotir, Jyotish, Jyoti............light, brightness, illumination Jyotis-Light in the three worlds. plural- the heavenly bodies Jyotisha- the science of the heavenly bodies Could anyone enlighten me as to whether the 'ish' in Jyotish came from Ishwara or not?Or where it comes from? Kind regards Rosemary Innes-Jones |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Dear Rosemary, The Vigraha is JyotiH +iisha =Jyotisha ( JyotiH means Light + iisha means God). So it does mean light of god. Light is perceived by eyes that it is known as Eyes of th Veda Purusha or Vedas. Chandrashekhar. R Innes-Jones wrote: > OM BRIHASPATAAYE NAMAH > Dear Visti, Chandreshekar and Gurus, > > From many modern texts, Jyotish is referred to as etymologically > coming from the sanskrit word -Jyotir - light and ishwara-God =meaning > Light of god. > Recently I was told by a sanskrit scholar that Jyotish has no > indication or link to the word Ishwara. > > From Monier Williams : > Jyotis, Jyotir, Jyotish, Jyoti............light, brightness, illumination > Jyotis-Light in the three worlds. > plural- the heavenly bodies > Jyotisha- the science of the heavenly bodies > > Could anyone enlighten me as to whether the 'ish' in Jyotish came from > Ishwara or not?Or where it comes from? > > Kind regards > Rosemary Innes-Jones > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Sarbani, This particular thing has been bothering me for sometime. The " sa " mentioned in Isha of Jyotisha has " Murdhanya " " sa " whereas that of Ishvara is " Talavya " " sa " , so isha of jyotisha cannot mean lord/ god etc... What does it mean then? Please share your insights. Regards Sarajit --- Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: > Dear Rosemary, > > > > In the Puranas, the planetary bodies are referred > to as jyotishas, 1.e. > bodies which emanate (whether by origin or by > reflection) jyot/jyoti or > light. Jyotishchakra is the term used specifically > to describe the zodiac, > the grahas, nakshatras etc. There are 3 kinds of > 's' in Sanskrit. Isha is > spelled with a talavya sha, that is the 's' used to > spell Shiva, Shava, > Shveta etc. The 's' used to spell jyotisha is a > different one, so the word > Isha of jyotish and Isha of Ishwara are two > different ones. Ishwara is not > referred to here at all. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > _____ > > R Innes-Jones > [rf.innes-jones] > Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:47 PM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Meaning of word Jyotish- the > Entymolgical Roots > > > > OM BRIHASPATAAYE NAMAH > > Dear Visti, Chandreshekar and Gurus, > > > > From many modern texts, Jyotish is referred to as > etymologically coming from > the sanskrit word -Jyotir - light and ishwara-God > =meaning Light of god. > > Recently I was told by a sanskrit scholar that > Jyotish has no indication or > link to the word Ishwara. > > > > From Monier Williams : > > Jyotis, Jyotir, Jyotish, Jyoti............light, > brightness, illumination > > Jyotis-Light in the three worlds. > > plural- the heavenly bodies > > Jyotisha- the science of the heavenly bodies > > > > Could anyone enlighten me as to whether the 'ish' in > Jyotish came from > Ishwara or not?Or where it comes from? > > > > Kind regards > > Rosemary Innes-Jones > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Dear Sarbani, Something I would like to add, Apte dictionary says iisha means God, and when it is iishaM it refers to Lord Shiva. ishwara is the Lord, the capable(here). So one can not assume that Isha in Jyotish has nothing to do with Jyoti + Isha. Jyoti does have a significance since Jyotish is called the eyes of the Vedas or Veda Purusha. Jyoti is also reffered to the potency of eyesight. I will try to reference Amarkosha to see what the author has to say. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Sarbani Sarkar wrote: > Dear Rosemary, > > In the Puranas, the planetary bodies are referred to as jyotishas, > 1.e. bodies which emanate (whether by origin or by reflection) > jyot/jyoti or light. Jyotishchakra is the term used specifically to > describe the zodiac, the grahas, nakshatras etc. There are 3 kinds of > ‘s’ in Sanskrit. Isha is spelled with a talavya sha, that is the ‘s’ > used to spell Shiva, Shava, Shveta etc. The ‘s’ used to spell jyotisha > is a different one, so the word Isha of jyotish and Isha of Ishwara > are two different ones. Ishwara is not referred to here at all. > > Best regards, > > Sarbani > > ------ > > ** R Innes-Jones [rf.innes-jones] > *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:47 PM > *To:* varahamihira > *Subject:* |Sri Varaha| Meaning of word Jyotish- the Entymolgical Roots > > OM BRIHASPATAAYE NAMAH > > Dear Visti, Chandreshekar and Gurus, > > From many modern texts, Jyotish is referred to as etymologically > coming from the sanskrit word -Jyotir - light and ishwara-God =meaning > Light of god. > > Recently I was told by a sanskrit scholar that Jyotish has no > indication or link to the word Ishwara. > > From Monier Williams : > > Jyotis, Jyotir, Jyotish, Jyoti............light, brightness, illumination > > Jyotis-Light in the three worlds. > > plural- the heavenly bodies > > Jyotisha- the science of the heavenly bodies > > Could anyone enlighten me as to whether the 'ish' in Jyotish came from > Ishwara or not?Or where it comes from? > > Kind regards > > Rosemary Innes-Jones > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > > * > > |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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