Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Hari Om Namo Viswarupaya ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Namaste, I have pondered this question for some time and have looked, questioned, etc. yet I still do not have a comfort level of clarity with the following: ---> Various Graha are exalted in specific Rasi and Nakshatra yet why one rasi is chosen over another still alludes me. EXAMPLE #1: Surya, karaka for Atman is exalted in Aries and Nakshatra owned by Ketu. ---> I can understand that Ketu has the ability to exalt Atman as it brings moksha to for on desiring mumukshutva BUT why in Aries? If I were picking a Rasi , I would choose Sagittarius, Owned by Guru ( displeller of darkness) and in a firery sign ( again purification and Guru's office or Moolatrikona), and Moola Nakshatra , owned by Ketu. EXAMPLE #2: Chandra, karaka for mind is exalted in Taurus and Nakshatra owned by the other luminary , Surya. WHY Taurus? An earth sign. Why is Krittika Nakshatra and Taurus more attractive then Virgo Rasi Owned by Mercury, and Uttara Phalguni Nakshatra? another Nakshatras owned by Surya. Any insight to this ( and other Graha positions of exaltation) will help me with key foundational appreciation of Jyotish. Pranams on Ashunya Shayan Dwitiya, Day of Lakshmi and Vishnu Frank in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 In a message dated 07/03/2004 5:18:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, frank_in_sandiego writes: Namaste Frank, This topic has come up many times and of course its difficult to have an answer that is fully satisfying. Ramdas Rao gave us a beautiful story from Skanda Purana which tells us that the Ashwini Kumaras are the twin children of Surya Deva and they are also the Vaidyas of the zodiac. I wish we could have such stories/leelas for the other grahas. Yes, we can rationalize and say that the exaltation rasi is its place of greatest happiness, the moolatrikona the place where a planet fulfills its dharma, its own sign is home, and its place of debilitation is where the planet is least happy. And of course this is valuable but the story from the Puranas is the knowledge from the Rishis. I will look for this posting if you don't have it. Regards, Brendan Namaste,I have pondered this question for some time and have looked,questioned, etc. yet I still do not have a comfort level ofclarity with the following:---> Various Graha are exalted in specific Rasi and Nakshatra yet why one rasi is chosen over another still alludes me.EXAMPLE #1: Surya, karaka for Atman is exalted in Aries and Nakshatra owned by Ketu.---> I can understand that Ketu has the ability to exalt Atman as it brings moksha to for on desiring mumukshutvaBUT why in Aries? If I were picking a Rasi , I would choose Sagittarius, Owned by Guru ( displeller of darkness) and in a firery sign ( again purification and Guru's office or Moolatrikona), and Moola Nakshatra , owned by Ketu.EXAMPLE #2: Chandra, karaka for mind is exalted in Taurus and Nakshatra owned by the other luminary , Surya.WHY Taurus? An earth sign. Why is Krittika Nakshatra and Taurus more attractive then Virgo Rasi Owned by Mercury, and Uttara Phalguni Nakshatra? another Nakshatras owned by Surya.Any insight to this ( and other Graha positions of exaltation) will help me with key foundational appreciation of Jyotish.Pranams on Ashunya Shayan Dwitiya, Day of Lakshmi and VishnuFrank in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun "The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars." MOON "Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God." MARS ". . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn)." MERCURY "Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles." JUPITER "In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds." VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus." SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term." Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Dear Robben an excellent piece of information from you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree within an asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it not? There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees. I think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular degree. I could be wrong. Chandrashekhar. Robben Hixson wrote: Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun "The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars." MOON "Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God." MARS ". . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn)." MERCURY "Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles." JUPITER "In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds." VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus." SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term." Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Hari Om Namo Viswarupaya ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Namaste Brendan (et.al) thank you all for helping with this *foundational* question... I agree, there is something deeper to why the Graha's are exalted or debilited. ( I thank Robben for the additonal insight as it adds another layer of understanding). If you can direct me to the proper Purana (or Upanishad) I will be glad to read and review; or if you have a PDF or Word document you can forward, that too is greatly apprecited. Thank you all again... Frank in San Diego varahamihira , Bpfeeley@A... wrote: > > In a message dated 07/03/2004 5:18:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, > frank_in_sandiego@c... writes: > > Namaste Frank, > > This topic has come up many times and of course its difficult to have an > answer that is fully satisfying. Ramdas Rao gave us a beautiful story from > Skanda Purana which tells us that the Ashwini Kumaras are the twin children of > Surya Deva and they are also the Vaidyas of the zodiac. I wish we could have > such stories/leelas for the other grahas. > > Yes, we can rationalize and say that the exaltation rasi is its place of > greatest happiness, the moolatrikona the place where a planet fulfills its > dharma, its own sign is home, and its place of debilitation is where the planet is > least happy. And of course this is valuable but the story from the Puranas is > the knowledge from the Rishis. > > I will look for this posting if you don't have it. > > Regards, > Brendan > > Namaste, > I have pondered this question for some time and have looked, > questioned, etc. yet I still do not have a comfort level of > clarity with the following: > ---> Various Graha are exalted in specific Rasi and Nakshatra > yet why one rasi is chosen over another still alludes me. > > EXAMPLE #1: Surya, karaka for Atman is exalted in Aries and > Nakshatra owned by Ketu. > ---> I can understand that Ketu has the ability to exalt Atman > as it brings moksha to for on desiring mumukshutva > BUT why in Aries? If I were picking a Rasi , I would choose > Sagittarius, Owned by Guru ( displeller of darkness) and in a firery > sign ( again purification and Guru's office or Moolatrikona), and > Moola Nakshatra , owned by Ketu. > > EXAMPLE #2: Chandra, karaka for mind is exalted in Taurus and > Nakshatra owned by the other luminary , Surya. > WHY Taurus? An earth sign. Why is Krittika Nakshatra and Taurus more > attractive then Virgo Rasi Owned by Mercury, and Uttara Phalguni > Nakshatra? another Nakshatras owned by Surya. > > Any insight to this ( and other Graha positions of exaltation) will > help me with key foundational appreciation of Jyotish. > > Pranams on Ashunya Shayan Dwitiya, Day of Lakshmi and Vishnu > > Frank in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Robben, Brendan, Chandrashekarji and others, Namaskar The planets effulgence or shine is based on the relative position of the Graha between the Sun and the earth, and hence its ability to reflect light. That is not sufficient as a Graha in theory could be combust (hence devoid of rays from the earths viewpoint) whilst placed in its exaltation sign. Yours, Visti Larsen visti Chandrashekhar [boxdel] 04 July 2004 11:31 varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's Dear Robben an excellent piece of information from you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree within an asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it not? There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees. I think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular degree. I could be wrong. Chandrashekhar. Robben Hixson wrote: Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun " The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars. " MOON " Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God. " MARS " . . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn). " MERCURY " Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles. " JUPITER " In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds. " VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus. " SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term. " Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Dear Visti, That is why I think it is its distance from earth at that degree. Let us hope some astronomer comment on this. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Robben, Brendan, Chandrashekarji and others, Namaskar The planets effulgence or shine is based on the relative position of the Graha between the Sun and the earth, and hence its ability to reflect light. That is not sufficient as a Graha in theory could be combust (hence devoid of rays from the earths viewpoint) whilst placed in its exaltation sign. Yours, Visti Larsen visti Chandrashekhar [boxdel] 04 July 2004 11:31 To: varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's Dear Robben an excellent piece of information from you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree within an asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it not? There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees. I think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular degree. I could be wrong. Chandrashekhar. Robben Hixson wrote: Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun "The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars." MOON "Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God." MARS ". . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn)." MERCURY "Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles." JUPITER "In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds." VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus." SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term." Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Chandrashekhar, Namaskar I did some studying – There is an astronomical occurrence called “UCCHA” which has been translated as Parallax by Astronomers. This UCCHA is a moving point, and though very slow, each of the planets have one and they move at independently different speeds – hence this can’t be the definition of Exaltation/Uccha from an astrolological perspective. The nodes cause the planets to wobble up and down in latitude, whilst the UCCHA causes a displacement in the planets orbit from its actual path. These two points cause a correction of the mean position of a planet. Question of light is dependant on the Earth-Sun angle, which is ever changing, but isn’t in conformity with the fixed Zodiacal degree of Exaltation. So far, from an astronomical perspective, no point seems to indicate the exaltation or debilitation degree. Yours, Visti Larsen visti Chandrashekhar [boxdel] 04 July 2004 22:13 varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's Dear Visti, That is why I think it is its distance from earth at that degree. Let us hope some astronomer comment on this. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Räma Kåñëa| Dear Robben, Brendan, Chandrashekarji and others, Namaskar The planets effulgence or shine is based on the relative position of the Graha between the Sun and the earth, and hence its ability to reflect light. That is not sufficient as a Graha in theory could be combust (hence devoid of rays from the earths viewpoint) whilst placed in its exaltation sign. Yours, Visti Larsen visti Chandrashekhar [boxdel] 04 July 2004 11:31 varahamihira Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's Dear Robben an excellent piece of information from you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree within an asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it not? There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees. I think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular degree. I could be wrong. Chandrashekhar. Robben Hixson wrote: Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun " The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars. " MOON " Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God. " MARS " . . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn). " MERCURY " Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles. " JUPITER " In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds. " VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus. " SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term. " Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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