Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Dear Chandrashekhar, I agree with you. The exaltation degree for a planet is where it is assigned its greatest Planetary Rays and must (it seems to me) relate to the planet's purest state. Questions that I have are: Since the Sun is allotted Planetary Rays (as well as the other planets), is the source of its Rays a source different than the Sun itself? Does the exaltation degree relate to a planet's highest Ishta at a particular stage of Creation? I may be way off here but it seems to me that the exaltation/debilitation is related more to the spiritual dimension than the temporal. I would appreciate direction and insight on this. I hate to speculate when I am certain there is a pure and correct answer. Best regards, Robben - Chandrashekhar varahamihira Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:30 AM Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's Dear Robben an excellent piece of information from you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree within an asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it not? There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees. I think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular degree. I could be wrong.Chandrashekhar.Robben Hixson wrote: Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun "The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars." MOON "Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God." MARS ". . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn)." MERCURY "Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles." JUPITER "In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds." VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus." SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term." Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Dear Robben, I think they are the degrees of Aries, when Sun is nearest to earth, during its (actually earth's) trajectory around earth. The Sages have given much importance to the extent of light reaching earth from a planet, thus Paksha Bala of Moon and affliction of Luminaries by the nodes and combustion.Perhaps an astronomer on the list may perhaps like to comment on this aspect of scientific fact. Regards, Chandrashekhar. Robben Hixson wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar, I agree with you. The exaltation degree for a planet is where it is assigned its greatest Planetary Rays and must (it seems to me) relate to the planet's purest state. Questions that I have are: Since the Sun is allotted Planetary Rays (as well as the other planets), is the source of its Rays a source different than the Sun itself? Does the exaltation degree relate to a planet's highest Ishta at a particular stage of Creation? I may be way off here but it seems to me that the exaltation/debilitation is related more to the spiritual dimension than the temporal. I would appreciate direction and insight on this. I hate to speculate when I am certain there is a pure and correct answer. Best regards, Robben ----- Original Message ----- Chandrashekhar To: varahamihira Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:30 AM Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's Dear Robben an excellent piece of information from you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree within an asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it not? There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees. I think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular degree. I could be wrong. Chandrashekhar. Robben Hixson wrote: Nasaste Frank, J.N. Basin, in his Astrology in the Vedas gave his opinion. Sun "The Sun is considered by astrology in its highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries belongs to the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized by astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained elsewhere, the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus the Sun when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the sinful Mars." MOON "Astrologically speaking the Moon is considered as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun being the 'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is in its highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in Brahmakar Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign Taurus - the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in the realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious surroundings. It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme spirit, that the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who realize God." MARS ". . . Mars gets exalted astrologically in the 28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Dhanishta, whose lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz., Capricorn belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be, for a soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a soldier while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as a soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is exactly what happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession of himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn)." MERCURY "Astrology says that Mercury is exalted in the 15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose lord is the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not go well with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to the consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To cite an example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic bomb can be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their intellect. Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon without losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can be considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of Mercury is in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological principles." JUPITER "In accordance with the shloka number 13 of Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in the 5th degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose lord is Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of 'Shoonya' emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in the state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the wealthy, fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of Samadhi and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the fixation of the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is based on very valid spiritual grounds." VENUS " . . . Venus gets exalted in the 27th degree of Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the planet Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus hardly likes the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and moral planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the nakshatra of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the moral surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in the uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted behavior for Venus." SATURN " . . . Saturn gets exalted in the 20th degree of Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu. Now Rahu acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of poverty as Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which can turn its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content in the nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty. For a poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term." Sanjay gave a lecture (I cannot remember which conference) where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship between the Sun and the Moon. I've seen more on this and if I can find it I will pass it on. Best Regards, Robben |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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