Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Om Subrahmanyaya Namah Dear Learned Members, The Chairman of Enron is undergoing trial, if convicted the term can go upto 30 years. His chart made an interesting study how the planets put him on the top, literally from scratch and finally how they pulled him down. There is a clear Bandhana Yoga in his chart, hence it'd be nice if anyone can look into the chart and say whether he'll be convicted. Best Regards, Saaji ---------------------------- http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/LayKenneth.htm Birth Name: Lay, Kenneth Lee Birth 04/15/1942 (Apr. 15, 1942) Birth Time: 18:00 (6:00 PM) CWT (+5:00) Birth Place: Tyrone, MO Latitude / Longitude: 37 N 12 / 91 W 52 Rodden Rating / Source: AA / Quoted BC/BR Source Notes: Judy Johns quotes B.C. 2/2002 In Rodden's site I tried to answer their questions, my reply is also added hereunder. ---------- 1) Where in his chart is the industry revolutionary who was able to win by " changing the rules of the game " , a.k.a. " working with politicos to deregulate the energy industry " ? Mercury rules business and trade. In the horoscope, Mercury is powerful having occupied the same sign both in Rashi and Navaamsha. Sun the political planet is exalted in the 8th in Aries. The combination suggests interests in Politics and gains from Political associations, as Moon 11th Lord of gains, joins Sun, the political planet. But the combinations is in the 8th a malefic house hence the person may not be a full time politician. 2) Where do we find the arrogance and aggressiveness required to push the limits and dominate the energy industry? The arrogance and aggressiveness are the domain of Mars. Such people are often find in Defence and allied areas. In this horoscope, Mars being powerfully posited in the 10th in a freindly sign and in his asterism aspecting Lagna shows tremendous energy, will power and enthusiasm. While the aspects of a vargottama Mercury from the 7th and Jupiter from the 9th on Lagna add tremendous strength to the horoscope. Mercury is the planet of intellect and trade and the position of Mercury in this horoscope is a factor showing tact, retentive memory and discrimination. Thus over all combinations suggest leadership qualities and power of planning. Moon rules Mind, hence we have to see the Horoscope from Moon sign also, Moon is in Aries, a Martian sign, while it's Lord Mars is powerfully situated in Gemini, the 3rd house ruling courage. The arrogance of Mars is clearly visible in the horoscope. 3) He does not come off as an oily used car salesman type. Do you think he was conniving and duplicitous or just in way over his head? As per this horoscope, the person is very ambitious and he with his associations(7th house), will power and hard work(Ascendant, 3rd and 10th Houses) able to achieve what all one desires. However, the position of Saturn, the philosophical planet and Jupiter, the planet of Justice in the 9th, the house of righteousness is of great significance. The same makes one religious, kind and of helpful nature. Again, the Ascendant is powerfully aspected by benefic Mercury and Jupiter. While the Martian aspects can make one manipulative, this clearly suggests that to a good extent the means also were important to him. ------- The chart was drawn using Raman Ayanamsha of 21.35.58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Saaji Ji, Can you pleas send his birth chart preferbly in JHD format to my private e-mail, then I will attempt. Regards Raghunatha Rao varahamihira , " saaji kulangara " <saajik> wrote: > Om Subrahmanyaya Namah > > Dear Learned Members, > > The Chairman of Enron is undergoing trial, if convicted the term can > go upto 30 years. His chart made an interesting study how the planets > put him on the top, literally from scratch and finally how they > pulled him down. > > There is a clear Bandhana Yoga in his chart, hence it'd be nice if > anyone can look into the chart and say whether he'll be convicted. > > Best Regards, > > Saaji > > ---------------------------- > http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/LayKenneth.htm > > Birth Name: Lay, Kenneth Lee > Birth 04/15/1942 (Apr. 15, 1942) > Birth Time: 18:00 (6:00 PM) CWT (+5:00) > Birth Place: Tyrone, MO > Latitude / Longitude: 37 N 12 / 91 W 52 > Rodden Rating / Source: AA / Quoted BC/BR > Source Notes: Judy Johns quotes B.C. 2/2002 > > > In Rodden's site I tried to answer their questions, my reply is also > added hereunder. > ---------- > 1) Where in his chart is the industry revolutionary who was able to > win by " changing the rules of the game " , a.k.a. " working with > politicos to deregulate the energy industry " ? > > Mercury rules business and trade. In the horoscope, Mercury is > powerful having occupied the same sign both in Rashi and Navaamsha. > Sun the political planet is exalted in the 8th in Aries. The > combination suggests interests in Politics and gains from Political > associations, as Moon 11th Lord of gains, joins Sun, the political > planet. But the combinations is in the 8th a malefic house hence > the person may not be a full time politician. > > 2) Where do we find the arrogance and aggressiveness required to push > the limits and dominate the energy industry? > > The arrogance and aggressiveness are the domain of Mars. Such > people are often find in Defence and allied areas. In this horoscope, > Mars being powerfully posited in the 10th in a freindly sign and in > his asterism aspecting Lagna shows tremendous energy, will power and > enthusiasm. While the aspects of a vargottama Mercury from the > 7th and Jupiter from the 9th on Lagna add tremendous strength to the > horoscope. Mercury is the planet of intellect and trade and the > position of Mercury in this horoscope is a factor showing tact, > retentive memory and discrimination. Thus over all combinations > suggest leadership qualities and power of planning. Moon rules Mind, > hence we have to see the Horoscope from Moon sign also, Moon is in > Aries, a Martian sign, while it's Lord Mars is powerfully situated in > Gemini, the 3rd house ruling courage. The arrogance of Mars is > clearly visible in the horoscope. > > 3) He does not come off as an oily used car salesman type. Do you > think he was conniving and duplicitous or just in way over his head? > > As per this horoscope, the person is very ambitious and he with > his associations(7th house), will power and hard work(Ascendant, 3rd > and 10th Houses) able to achieve what all one desires. However, the > position of Saturn, the philosophical planet and Jupiter, the planet > of Justice in the 9th, the house of righteousness is of great > significance. The same makes one religious, kind and of helpful > nature. Again, the Ascendant is powerfully aspected by benefic > Mercury and Jupiter. While the Martian aspects can make one > manipulative, this clearly suggests that to a good extent the means > also were important to him. > > ------- > The chart was drawn using Raman Ayanamsha of 21.35.58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Dear Raoji, First of all, please remove this 'Namaste' and 'Ji' I'm too young(in every sense) to be called this. You are a very senior member and in knowledge, I've seen how masterly you apply various systems and how accurtely you predict things. I respect your humility but this infact causes pain to me. Attached please find the chart of Mr.Lay. This was drawn using Raman Ayanamsha, since Lahiri is the accepted Ayanamsha, you may change the setting to Lahiri or using your techniques you may rectify the BT :-) I'd look forward to your analysis. Best Regards, Saaji Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaNamaste Saaji Ji,Can you pleas send his birth chart preferbly in JHD format to my private e-mail, then I will attempt.RegardsRaghunatha Raovarahamihira , "saaji kulangara" <saajik> wrote:> Om Subrahmanyaya Namah> > Dear Learned Members,> > The Chairman of Enron is undergoing trial, if convicted the term can > go upto 30 years. His chart made an interesting study how the planets > put him on the top, literally from scratch and finally how they > pulled him down.> > There is a clear Bandhana Yoga in his chart, hence it'd be nice if > anyone can look into the chart and say whether he'll be convicted. > > Best Regards,> > Saaji> > ----------------------------> http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/LayKenneth.htm > > Birth Name: Lay, Kenneth Lee > Birth 04/15/1942 (Apr. 15, 1942) > Birth Time: 18:00 (6:00 PM) CWT (+5:00) > Birth Place: Tyrone, MO > Latitude / Longitude: 37 N 12 / 91 W 52 > Rodden Rating / Source: AA / Quoted BC/BR > Source Notes: Judy Johns quotes B.C. 2/2002 > > > In Rodden's site I tried to answer their questions, my reply is also > added hereunder. > ----------> 1) Where in his chart is the industry revolutionary who was able to > win by "changing the rules of the game", a.k.a. "working with > politicos to deregulate the energy industry"? > > Mercury rules business and trade. In the horoscope, Mercury is > powerful having occupied the same sign both in Rashi and Navaamsha. > Sun the political planet is exalted in the 8th in Aries. The > combination suggests interests in Politics and gains from Political > associations, as Moon 11th Lord of gains, joins Sun, the political > planet. But the combinations is in the 8th a malefic house hence > the person may not be a full time politician.> > 2) Where do we find the arrogance and aggressiveness required to push > the limits and dominate the energy industry?> > The arrogance and aggressiveness are the domain of Mars. Such > people are often find in Defence and allied areas. In this horoscope, > Mars being powerfully posited in the 10th in a freindly sign and in > his asterism aspecting Lagna shows tremendous energy, will power and > enthusiasm. While the aspects of a vargottama Mercury from the > 7th and Jupiter from the 9th on Lagna add tremendous strength to the > horoscope. Mercury is the planet of intellect and trade and the > position of Mercury in this horoscope is a factor showing tact, > retentive memory and discrimination. Thus over all combinations > suggest leadership qualities and power of planning. Moon rules Mind, > hence we have to see the Horoscope from Moon sign also, Moon is in > Aries, a Martian sign, while it's Lord Mars is powerfully situated in > Gemini, the 3rd house ruling courage. The arrogance of Mars is > clearly visible in the horoscope. > > 3) He does not come off as an oily used car salesman type. Do you > think he was conniving and duplicitous or just in way over his head? > > As per this horoscope, the person is very ambitious and he with > his associations(7th house), will power and hard work(Ascendant, 3rd > and 10th Houses) able to achieve what all one desires. However, the > position of Saturn, the philosophical planet and Jupiter, the planet > of Justice in the 9th, the house of righteousness is of great > significance. The same makes one religious, kind and of helpful > nature. Again, the Ascendant is powerfully aspected by benefic > Mercury and Jupiter. While the Martian aspects can make one > manipulative, this clearly suggests that to a good extent the means > also were important to him. > > -------> The chart was drawn using Raman Ayanamsha of 21.35.58|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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