Exaltation of Graha's

July 19, 2004

Dear Visti,

Hare Rama Krsna!

>So far, from an astronomical perspective, no point seems to indicate the

>exaltation or debilitation degree.

My understanding has always been that the planets attain exaltation at the

certain degree of the zodiac because of specific reference to the

naksatra. Eg. I have given the example before of Venus attaining

exaltation at 27 degree Pisces because it comes in perfect alignment with

the star Revati. Revati is the naksatra representing sex, it's symbol is

an elephant and we know that to catch an elephant you need a she-elephant.

So Revati naksatra is at 27 degrees Pisces.

Another example: Sun is the originator of everything, and thus is exalted

in Aries, the first sign of the zodiac. Interesting is that is exactly at

10 degrees Aries where it is in perfect trines (9th-father) from the star

Magha, who is in it's own sign.

There must be similar reasons for the other planets.

So the exact degree of exaltation is related to the background of stars.

The debilitation is then 180 degrees from there, or the furthest possible

from the point of exaltation.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi

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August 2, 2004

Dear Visti,

You could be right. But I still think that it is related to some

astronomical occurrence.If I find any relation I shall let you know.

Chandrashekhar.

Visti Larsen wrote:

|Hare

Rama Krsna|

Dear

Chandrashekhar, Namaskar

I

did some

studying –

There

is an

astronomical occurrence called “UCCHA” which has been translated as

Parallax by Astronomers.

This

UCCHA is

a moving point, and though very slow, each of the planets have one and

they

move at independently different speeds – hence this can’t be the

definition of Exaltation/Uccha from an astrolological perspective.

The

nodes

cause the planets to wobble up and down in latitude, whilst the UCCHA

causes a

displacement in the planets orbit from its actual path. These two

points cause

a correction of the mean position of a planet.

Question

of

light is dependant on the Earth-Sun angle, which is ever changing, but

isn’t

in conformity with the fixed Zodiacal degree of Exaltation.

So

far, from

an astronomical perspective, no point seems to indicate the exaltation

or

debilitation degree.

Yours,

Visti Larsen

visti

Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

04 July 2004

22:13

To:

varahamihira

Re: |Sri

Varaha|

Exaltation of Graha's

Dear Visti,

That is why I think it is its distance from earth at that degree. Let

us hope

some astronomer comment on this.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Visti Larsen wrote:

|Hare

Räma Kåñëa|

Dear

Robben,

Brendan, Chandrashekarji and others, Namaskar

The

planets

effulgence or shine is based on the relative position of the Graha

between the

Sun and the earth, and hence its ability to reflect light. That is not

sufficient as a Graha in theory could be combust (hence devoid of rays

from the

earths viewpoint) whilst placed in its exaltation sign.

Yours,

Visti Larsen

visti

Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

04 July 2004

11:31

varahamihira

Re: |Sri

Varaha|

Exaltation of Graha's

Dear Robben an excellent piece

of information from

you. Mr. Bhasin however, does not explain why only a certain degree

within an

asterism is parmoccha. An asterism is spread over 13.20 degrees, is it

not?

There is something more than this, as the reason of parmoccha degrees.

I

think it has to do more with the way a planet shines at a particular

degree. I

could be wrong.

Chandrashekhar.

Robben Hixson wrote:

Nasaste Frank,

J.N.

Basin,

in his Astrology in the Vedas

gave his opinion.

Sun

"The Sun is considered by

astrology in its

highest point of exaltation, when occupying the 10th degree of Aries

belongs to

the asterism Ashvini, whose lord is the planet Ketu, who is recognized

by

astrology as the significator of the state of moksha. As explained

elsewhere,

the sign Aries belonging to Mars represents sinful surroundings. Thus

the Sun

when in Moksha is unaffected by sinful and testing atmosphere of the

sinful Mars."

MOON

"Astrologically speaking the

Moon is considered

as in 'exaltation' when located in the 3rd degree of Taurus. This

degree

belongs to the nakshatra Krittika, whose lord is the Sun. Now the Sun

being the

'Atma' or the self it is clear that the Moon representing the mind is

in its

highest state when it has realized the soul [or Atma] (when it is in

Brahmakar

Vriti). The test of this state of exaltation is afforded by the sign

Taurus -

the sign belonging to the 'Luxurious' Venus. In other words, mind in

the

realized state (the Moon in exaltation) is not tempted by luxurious

surroundings.

It is because of her competence to realize 'Brahm' - the supreme

spirit, that

the Moon has been called by the Veda as the king among those who

realize God."

MARS

". . . Mars gets exalted

astrologically in the

28th degree of Capricorn. This degree belongs to the nakshatra

Dhanishta, whose

lord is Mars himself. The sign to which Mars is exalted, viz.,

Capricorn

belongs to Saturn, who is bitter enemy to Mars. It is, as it should be,

for a

soldier in the real sense of the term, shows his best conduct as a

soldier

while in the enemy's camp. If he can retain his valor and character as

a

soldier there, nothing more could be imagined about him. This is

exactly what

happens. for Dhanishta being Mar's own nakshatra, he is in possession

of

himself even in the enemy's camp (Capricorn)."

MERCURY

"Astrology says that Mercury

is exalted in the

15th degree of Virgo. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Hasta, whose

lord is

the Moon. Mercury is highly intellectual. In general 'Feelings' do not

go well

with intellect. If intellect retains logic and yet is compassionate to

the

consideration of others, nothing could be more 'Exalted' about it. To

cite an

example from the modern world, if the intellectual users of the atomic

bomb can

be compassionate towards humanity, it would do great credit to their

intellect.

Thus if the planet Mercury gets compassionate feelings of the Moon

without

losing its intellectual acumen denoted by the sign Virgo, Mercury can

be

considered really in exaltation. The rationale of the exaltation of

Mercury is

in perfect consonance with moral, spiritual and psychological

principles."

JUPITER

"In accordance with the shloka

number 13 of

Chapter 1 of Brihat Jatak, . . . Jupiter gets exalted astrologically in

the 5th

degree of Cancer. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Pusya, whose

lord is

Saturn. Saturn is the symbol of the absence of worldly goods, of

'Shoonya'

emptiness, etc. Jupiter the Spiritual planet naturally feels exalted in

the

state of 'Shoonya' or 'Samadhi'. The sign Cancer belonging to the

wealthy,

fickle and sexy Moon is incapable of disturbing Jupiter in his state of

Samadhi

and affords a testing ground for this spiritual planet. Thus the

fixation of

the 5th degree of Cancer as the highest exaltation point for Jupiter is

based

on very valid spiritual grounds."

VENUS

" . . . Venus gets exalted in

the 27th degree of

Pisces. This degree relates to the nakshatra Revati, whose lord is the

planet

Mercury. Being a planet most given to luxury and enjoyment, Venus

hardly likes

the company of moral people. In Pisces, belonging to the spiritual and

moral

planet Jupiter, it feels ill at ease, and yet since Venus is in the

nakshatra

of the learned Mercury, Venus learns 'Sense' in spite of being in the

moral

surroundings of Jupiter, denoted by the sign Pisces. To talk sense in

the

uncongenial spiritual circumstances is thus what constitutes exalted

behavior

for Venus."

SATURN

" . . . Saturn gets exalted in

the 20th degree of

Libra. This degree belongs to the nakshatra Swati, whose lord is Rahu.

Now Rahu

acts like Saturn itself. In other words Rahu is as much a factor of

poverty as

Saturn is. In the sign Libra, Saturn is in a luxurious position which

can turn

its head, poor as he is. But in exaltation Saturn still remains content

in the

nakshatra or Rahu, it friend and does not forget its days of poverty.

For a

poor man not to be intoxicated by the possession of wealth is really an

achievement that makes it exalted in the real meaning of the term."

Sanjay gave a lecture (I

cannot remember which conference)

where he discussed the exaltations of the planets (in passing) in

connection with Jyotrlingas and the unfolding conception relationship

between

the Sun and the Moon.

I've seen more on this and if

I can find it I will

pass it on.

Best Regards,

Robben

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August 2, 2004

Dear Dhira,

Thanks for supporting my view and giving the right reference.

Chandrashekhar.

Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

Dear Visti,

Hare Rama Krsna!

>So far, from an astronomical perspective, no point seems to

indicate the

>exaltation or debilitation degree.

My understanding has always been that the planets attain exaltation at

the

certain degree of the zodiac because of specific reference to the

naksatra. Eg. I have given the example before of Venus attaining

exaltation at 27 degree Pisces because it comes in perfect alignment

with

the star Revati. Revati is the naksatra representing sex, it's symbol is

an elephant and we know that to catch an elephant you need a

she-elephant.

So Revati naksatra is at 27 degrees Pisces.

Another example: Sun is the originator of everything, and thus is

exalted

in Aries, the first sign of the zodiac. Interesting is that is exactly

at

10 degrees Aries where it is in perfect trines (9th-father) from the

star

Magha, who is in it's own sign.

There must be similar reasons for the other planets.

So the exact degree of exaltation is related to the background of stars.

The debilitation is then 180 degrees from there, or the furthest

possible

from the point of exaltation.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi

http://www.radhadesh.com

http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html

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August 7, 2004

|| Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Dhira and Chandrashekhar,

If the exaltation reference is with respect to a nakshatra, then the duration of exaltation should be 13d 20m, the duration of a nakshatra... Then Maharishi would not have given those specific degrees, but longer duration. For that matter, one can argue, that the basis is Rasi only....

The zodiac which is degree based is only Trimsamsa and probably it holds the key. If that is so, I would tend to agree that philosophy of fundamental elements or tattva and not astronomical points, that hold the key to the puzzle. I am just thinking... nothing conclusive yet. Feeling wise, I too concur with Chandrashekhar that there is probably some astronomical facts supporting it.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

varahamihira

Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:17 AM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Exaltation of Graha's

Dear Dhira,Thanks for supporting my view and giving the right reference.Chandrashekhar.Dhira Krsna BCS wrote:

Dear Visti,Hare Rama Krsna!>So far, from an astronomical perspective, no point seems to indicate the>exaltation or debilitation degree.My understanding has always been that the planets attain exaltation at thecertain degree of the zodiac because of specific reference to thenaksatra. Eg. I have given the example before of Venus attainingexaltation at 27 degree Pisces because it comes in perfect alignment withthe star Revati. Revati is the naksatra representing sex, it's symbol isan elephant and we know that to catch an elephant you need a she-elephant.So Revati naksatra is at 27 degrees Pisces.Another example: Sun is the originator of everything, and thus is exaltedin Aries, the first sign of the zodiac. Interesting is that is exactly at10 degrees Aries where it is in perfect trines (9th-father) from the starMagha, who is in it's own sign.There must be similar reasons for the other planets.So the exact degree of exaltation is related to the background of stars.The debilitation is then 180 degrees from there, or the furthest possiblefrom the point of exaltation.Yours,Dhira Krsna dasa,Jyotishihttp://www.radhadesh.comhttp://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira