Next Step after dropping the body - Graha Influences

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Hari Om Namo Vishwarupya

 

Namaste

I posted this last week and wondered if anyone has insight into the

mechanics of this, or if they heard Sanjayji dicuss...lots of open

ends in my mind on this.... that is:

 

Sanjay comments on atma separating from mana at some stage after

death, then reunites once the birth process

occurs for those that have not reached Kavalaya.

What I do not understand,

1. If from your merit you earn time in Surya Loka, Indraloka,

etc. What faculty of your being is experiencing these Lokas?

If the atma, manas and indriayas are not in tact?

 

2. If you are a Sanyas or on the path of Moksa, would his

practice not continued in these lokas and move one

further to Brahma-bhuta and not have to come back to earth?

 

3. Last, what effects do the Graha's have in these lokas? I

will assume karma is still in affect.

 

I know its a bit asoteric, yet part of the continuium of our

spiritual experience.

 

Pranams

 

Frank in San Diego

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Om Subrahmanyaya Namah

 

Namaste,

 

My reply below.

 

Regards,

 

Saaji

 

 

varahamihira , " fls999999999 "

<frank_in_sandiego@c...> wrote:

> Hari Om Namo Vishwarupya

>

> Namaste

> I posted this last week and wondered if anyone has insight into the

> mechanics of this, or if they heard Sanjayji dicuss...lots of open

> ends in my mind on this.... that is:

>

> Sanjay comments on atma separating from mana at some stage after

> death, then reunites once the birth process

> occurs for those that have not reached Kavalaya.

 

 

I prefer to think otherwise. I think the mind only forgets things

while Atma being the silent spectator knows everything. Atma knows

that we all are same, it's the mind that differentiate things. As you

said in different worlds if we enjoy/suffer, mind should be active,

as nothing affects Atma(Gita). Hence mind should be active in all

levels in some way or other. And, some even say both are same. There

are incidents where people could remember their previous births. And,

Abhimanyu could learn things even before he born in this world.

 

Writing to Sanjay Ji is the best thing to do.

 

 

 

> What I do not understand,

> 1. If from your merit you earn time in Surya Loka, Indraloka,

> etc. What faculty of your being is experiencing these Lokas?

> If the atma, manas and indriayas are not in tact?

>

 

The stories of Indra says he been jealous, feared, was kind etc; So

with other demi gods. Even Lord Vishnu or Lord Siva doesn't spare.

The worlds you said are simply higher platterns where things are

fine. The hells are also explained in Puranas, as you said, how could

Atma suffer?

 

 

> 2. If you are a Sanyas or on the path of Moksa, would his

> practice not continued in these lokas and move one

> further to Brahma-bhuta and not have to come back to earth?

>

 

 

May not have to, however Moksha(Kaivalya) is very very difficult to

achieve.

 

 

> 3. Last, what effects do the Graha's have in these lokas? I

> will assume karma is still in affect.

>

 

 

I didnt understand this portion. The grahas hint the fruits of the

previous birth. It is not that Grahas mould our life or take stock of

our Karma. Karma manifests everywhere, everytime. Brahma does

creation, Vishnu does protection... It's the essence of this world

(some say it's time...) Time to time, even Devas had to undergo

sufferings. Didnt Indra lost his position due to bad karma?

 

 

> I know its a bit asoteric, yet part of the continuium of our

> spiritual experience.

>

> Pranams

>

> Frank in San Diego

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|Hare

Rama Krsna|

Dear

Frank, Namaskar

You have

rightly pointed out that the Mana is replaced with a new Mana dependant on the

power of our mantras from previous births. Otherwise what is the real use of a

Mantra if it cannot change our mind?

Now that

faculty which makes us experience happiness and suffering is the mind, hence

when we enter a loka to attain an experience, it is essentially the mana which

is doing so in that particular loka.

Hence one

method of seeing the Loka after death is by analyzing the Chanda-Upapada as per

Deva Keralam. Here the Moon is considered as Lagna, and the Upapada is calculated

therefrom. The result will show where the mind goes – or what the mind is

constantly giving its energy to. Where your mind goes in this birth, is also

where it will go after death, hence the reasoning behind this principle.

Hope this

helps.

Yours,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visti Larsen

visti

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fls999999999

[frank_in_sandiego]

20 September 2004 20:48

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Next Step

after dropping the body - Graha Influences

 

 

Hari Om Namo Vishwarupya

 

Namaste

I posted this last week and wondered if anyone has

insight into the

mechanics of this, or if they heard Sanjayji

dicuss...lots of open

ends in my mind on this.... that is:

 

Sanjay comments on atma separating from mana at

some stage after

death, then reunites once the birth process

occurs for those that have not reached Kavalaya.

What I do not understand,

1. If from your merit you earn time in Surya Loka,

Indraloka,

etc. What faculty of your being is experiencing

these Lokas?

If the atma, manas and indriayas are not in tact?

 

2. If you are a Sanyas or on the path of Moksa,

would his

practice not continued in these lokas and move one

further to Brahma-bhuta and not have to come back

to earth?

 

3. Last, what effects do the Graha's have in these

lokas? I

will assume karma is still in affect.

 

I know its a bit asoteric, yet part of the

continuium of our

spiritual experience.

 

Pranams

 

Frank in San

Diego

 

 

 

 

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