Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952Time: 8:41:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 07' 00", 12 N 09' 00" Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the "Three Pair Rule" and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life(2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life(3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = MercuryMaheswara = MercuryRudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. RegardsRaghunadha Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Raghunatha, Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the blessings of Vishnu. Best Wishes Sarajit Rao Nemani [raon1008] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PM Vedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira VarahaMihira |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952 Time: 8:41:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 07' 00 " , 12 N 09' 00 " Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the " Three Pair Rule " and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life (2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life (3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = Mercury Maheswara = Mercury Rudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Sarajit, Namaskar Good answer. But, then why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK-Venus? Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti Sarajit Poddar [sarajit] 23 October 2004 22:05 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Raghunatha, Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the blessings of Vishnu. Best Wishes Sarajit Rao Nemani [raon1008] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PM Vedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira VarahaMihira |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952 Time: 8:41:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 07' 00 " , 12 N 09' 00 " Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the " Three Pair Rule " and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life (2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life (3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = Mercury Maheswara = Mercury Rudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira __________ NOD32 1.904 (20041023) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarajit, Is the Ak actually supposed to protect the native ? My Ak Jupiter is placed in lagna and each time the Jupiter period comes I have some problems.The begining of Jupiter MD I died almost three times.Just the day before I began my Jupiter PD and I am now back home from the hospital after a few check ups.The doctors suspect another cardiac event as I had suffered some major health problems the day before. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. Visti Larsen <visti wrote: |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Sarajit, Namaskar Good answer. But, then why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK-Venus? Best wishes, Visti Larsenvisti Sarajit Poddar [sarajit] 23 October 2004 22:05varahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa || Jaya Jagannath ||Dear Raghunatha, Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the blessings of Vishnu. Best Wishes Sarajit Rao Nemani [raon1008] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PMVedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira VarahaMihira|Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952Time: 8:41:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 07' 00", 12 N 09' 00" Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the "Three Pair Rule" and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life(2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life(3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = MercuryMaheswara = MercuryRudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. RegardsRaghunadha Rao |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira __________ NOD32 1.904 (20041023) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.nod32.com|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Saraji Ji and Visti Ji, Thanks for the answer to my doubt. Visti Ji: May I answer to you question: " why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK- Venus? " . The reason for that is: The Lord of Cn Mahadasa, Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Also, rudra Jup is aspecting from Pi, which is also the Pratyantar Dasa. Please let me know whether I am correct or not. Regards Raghunatha Rao --- original message ---- Message 12807 " Visti Larsen " <visti@s...> Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:27 pm RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Sarajit, Namaskar Good answer. But, then why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK-Venus? Best wishes, ---- ---------- Sarajit Poddar [sarajit] 23 October 2004 22:05 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Raghunatha, Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the blessings of Vishnu. Best Wishes Sarajit ---- ---------- Rao Nemani [raon1008] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PM Vedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira VarahaMihira |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952 Time: 8:41:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 07' 00 " , 12 N 09' 00 " Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the " Three Pair Rule " and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life (2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life (3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = Mercury Maheswara = Mercury Rudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rao, Namaskar But then how about the Mahä Dasa? Best wishes, Visti Larsen visti Raghunatha Rao Nemani [raon1008] 24 October 2004 08:29 varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Saraji Ji and Visti Ji, Thanks for the answer to my doubt. Visti Ji: May I answer to you question: " why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK- Venus? " . The reason for that is: The Lord of Cn Mahadasa, Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Also, rudra Jup is aspecting from Pi, which is also the Pratyantar Dasa. Please let me know whether I am correct or not. Regards Raghunatha Rao --- original message ---- Message 12807 " Visti Larsen " <visti@s...> Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:27 pm RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Sarajit, Namaskar Good answer. But, then why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK-Venus? Best wishes, ---- ---------- Sarajit Poddar [sarajit] 23 October 2004 22:05 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Raghunatha, Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the blessings of Vishnu. Best Wishes Sarajit ---- ---------- Rao Nemani [raon1008] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PM Vedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira VarahaMihira |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952 Time: 8:41:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 07' 00 " , 12 N 09' 00 " Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the " Three Pair Rule " and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life (2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life (3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = Mercury Maheswara = Mercury Rudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira __________ NOD32 1.905 (20041024) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Visti Ji, Honestly, I do not know the answer, so please give me the answer with the reason, so that I can understand and learn. Regards Raghunatha Rao --- original message --- Message 12812 " Visti Larsen " <visti@s...> Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:23 pm FW: |Sri Varaha| Re: Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Rao, Namaskar But then how about the Mahä Dasa? Best wishes, Visti Larsen --- Raghunatha Rao Nemani [raon1008] 24 October 2004 08:29 varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Saraji Ji and Visti Ji, Thanks for the answer to my doubt. Visti Ji: May I answer to you question: " why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK- Venus? " . The reason for that is: The Lord of Cn Mahadasa, Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Also, rudra Jup is aspecting from Pi, which is also the Pratyantar Dasa. Please let me know whether I am correct or not. Regards Raghunatha Rao --- original message ---- Message 12807 " Visti Larsen " <visti@s...> Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:27 pm RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa |Hare Rama Krsna| Dear Sarajit, Namaskar Good answer. But, then why did the person have their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK-Venus? Best wishes, - Sarajit Poddar [sarajit] 23 October 2004 22:05 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Raghunatha, Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the blessings of Vishnu. Best Wishes Sarajit ------------------------------ Rao Nemani [raon1008] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PM Vedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira VarahaMihira |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa Hare Rama Krishna Namste Gurus and Learned Members, Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic principles can be improved. I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- January 18, 1952 Time: 8:41:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 07' 00 " , 12 N 09' 00 " Kollegal, India His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India 1) First of all let me apply the " Three Pair Rule " and also see whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life (2) Moon and Saturn Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life (3) Lagna and Hora Lagna Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra Yoga planets can give death. b) AL or the trines from it can give death. c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th from AL, those 2 houses can give death. I have also found the following in this chart: A.K = Venus Brahma = Mercury Maheswara = Mercury Rudra = Jupiter Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to the native. Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar Dasa. Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as analysed above in the Antar Dasa. Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the native. Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the native. Please educate me on this. Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so that my future analysis will be more accurate. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards Raghunadha Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Om Subrahmanyaya Namah Namaste, The Times of India gave good publicity to one astrologer's accurate prediction that Veerappan wont see his 53rd birth day. (The astrologer wants to remain anonymous) In the birth data used by them the place of birth is mentioned as `Gopinatham'. I dont know the coordinates for this place. However one magazine had quoted his birth data with coordinates, which were 77E35 12N59. (I shall again check my shelf). Using 360 days savana years, I think the event is in the Vim Dasa of Sa-Sa-Ma-Ma-Ju/Sa. Ju gives sudden death, Mars painful especially with any metal parts or accidents. Sa forms a Bandana yoga, hence he was locked in a Jeep. Drekkana I couldn't understand in this case. Anyway, if this data is correct Shoola Dasa periods will change. It'll be Cn-Ge. Veerappan committed his first murder at the age of 17, in the advent of Ra Dasa, when transit Ra was over natal Ra. The interesting point of this horoscope is the prominency of Ra. BPHS states that he lives in Jungles and is horrible. Regards, Saaji varahamihira , " Raghunatha Rao Nemani " <raon1008> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Visti Ji, > > Honestly, I do not know the answer, so please give me the > answer with the reason, so that I can understand and learn. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > --- original message --- > Message 12812 > > " Visti Larsen " <visti@s...> > Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:23 pm > FW: |Sri Varaha| Re: Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola > Dasa > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Rao, Namaskar > > But then how about the Mahä Dasa? > > Best wishes, > > Visti Larsen > -- - > > Raghunatha Rao Nemani [raon1008] > 24 October 2004 08:29 > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Saraji Ji and Visti Ji, > > Thanks for the answer to my doubt. > > Visti Ji: May I answer to you question: " why did the person have > their demise in Cancer Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK- > Venus? " . > > The reason for that is: The Lord of Cn Mahadasa, Moon is placed in > 6th from AL. Also, rudra Jup is aspecting from Pi, which is also the > Pratyantar Dasa. Please let me know whether I am correct or not. > > Regards > Raghunatha Rao > > --- original message ---- > > Message 12807 > > " Visti Larsen " <visti@s...> > Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:27 pm > RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear Sarajit, Namaskar > > Good answer. But, then why did the person have their demise in Cancer > Mahä Dasa, who receives the Räçi Drsti of AK-Venus? > > Best wishes, > > - > > Sarajit Poddar [sarajit@s...] > 23 October 2004 22:05 > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa > > > > || Jaya Jagannath || > Dear Raghunatha, > > > > Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, > as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. > But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, > because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in > this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the > native. Please educate me on this. > > > > The Atmakaraka protects only on the Mahadasa level. If it is placed > there or aspects it by rasi drsti then the native is saved with the > blessings of Vishnu. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > ------------------------------ > > Rao Nemani [raon1008] > Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:12 PM > Vedic Astrology Group; GuruKulam Achyuta; VarahaMihira > VarahaMihira > |Sri Varaha| Veerappan Death Analysis using Shoola Dasa > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namste Gurus and Learned Members, > > Let me analyse this native's birth chart using the longevity and > Shoola Dasa Principels to see whether my understanding of the > principles are accurate. Please go thru my analysis and > guide/correct me wherever I am not correct and write to me privatly > or to the list, so that my understanding and applying the basic > principles can be improved. > > I have considered the birth details of the native as follows:- > > January 18, 1952 > Time: 8:41:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 07' 00 " , 12 N 09' 00 " > Kollegal, India > > His death took place : On October 18th 2004, 10.50 pm , India > > 1) First of all let me apply the " Three Pair Rule " and also see > whether any Yoga Vipareetam applies to this chart or not::- > > * The three pairs are the rasis occupied by: > > (1) Lagna lord and 8th lord > Dual + Dual = Movable = Medium Life > (2) Moon and Saturn > Dual + Dual = Dual = Medium Life > (3) Lagna and Hora Lagna > Fixed + Fixed = Fixed = Short Life > > Yoga Viparateem is not applied in this case as the AK Ven is placed > in 10th house so there is no change in the in the longevity > compartment hence confirming the Medium Life. > > Summary so far is : Middle life from the above analysis. > > 2) Now let me apply the Shoola Dasa principles as follows:- > > a) Trishoola rasi can bring death, because the 2nd and 8th rasis in > the natural zoidac are owned by Mars and Venus. Rasi aspect on either > of them by Moon generates the Rudra Yoga and rasi aspected by Rudra > Yoga planets can give death. > > b) AL or the trines from it can give death. > > c) If malefics or marakas occupy or aspect the 3rd from AL or the 8th > from AL, those 2 houses can give death. > > I have also found the following in this chart: > > A.K = Venus > > Brahma = Mercury > Maheswara = Mercury > Rudra = Jupiter > > Native was running the following Shoola dasa (troubles and death): > > Cn MD: 1997-01-17 (6:35:00) - 2006-01-17 (10:57:48) > Sc AD: 2004-07-18 (14:14:00) - 2005-04-18 (12:35:54) > Pi PD: 2004-10-17 (21:41:18) - 2004-11-09 (17:33:07) > > Maha Dasa Cn : Here in this chart Cn is 4th from AL and its lord Moon > is placed in 6th from AL. Rudra the Jupiter is aspecting the Cn and > Moon by rasi and graha drishti too. Also the Maheswara Merc is placed > in 9th from AL and aspecting the Dasa Lord Moon by rasi drishti > forming Rudra Yoga and can potentially be the dasa can bring death to > the native. > > Antar Dasa Sc : Sc is 8th from AL and has Venus placed in it. Venus > is 2nd and 7th lord from AL. This Sc antar dasa is apsecting the AL, > Maha Dasa Cn as well. Rudra Jup is aspecting theis Antar Dasa Sc too. > So all these combinations may give death to the native in this Antar > Dasa. > > Also if you see the Sun's transits, Sun is in Li when the event had > occured, i.e is Sun is in trines to AL, which confirms the event as > analysed above in the Antar Dasa. > > Pratyantar Dasa is Pi : Pi is 6th from AL and it has Lagna Lord Sat > and Mahadasa Lord Moon. This is being aspected by Merc( Maheswara ) > and Jup (Rudra ) by Rasi drishti and Rudra (Jup ) is also aspecting > by graha drishti too. So this Pratyantar Dasa can bring death to the > native. > > Doubt:- Why AtmaKaraka Venus is not able to protect the native here, > as you have noticed that during the Sc Antar Dasa the native died. > But Sc has Venus placed in it. AK Venus could not protect the native, > because Venus in Jyestha Nakshatra who is ruled by Mercury and in > this chart Mercury is nothing but Maheswara, hence could not save the > native. Please educate me on this. > > Having said that, I would like to handover this case to Guru's and > learned members to correct me if I am wrong, you may write to me > privately also, as I wanted to learn the principles correctly, so > that my future analysis will be more accurate. > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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