Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Om Subrahmanyaya Namah Dear Kasturiji, I am very much thankful to you for taking time to write. One more thing, I simply copied the available data and unfortunately Swami Sivananda also got added to the list. He was not a Sanakracharya, but a great Yogi and scholar. I regret the error. Regarding Swami Narasimha Bharati, this was given by Dr Raman in his Notable Horoscopes. Probably He omitted `Sacchidananda Shivabhinava'. The other Swamijii's data `Pingala varsha, Month of Karthikai, Sukla Chaturdasi in the birth star of Aswini'. The date seems to be Nov 3 1797, I'm eagerly waiting for the site to get updated. Swami Vidyaranya's period given in the site doesn't match his birth details. Regarding Adi Sanakracharya's period, I tend to believe the period mentioned by Sringeri. It's said that, to reach Sarvajna Peetam, young Sankara wrote a commentary named `Jaya Mangala' for Brihat Jataka. Do you / anyone in the list have any idea? Are you connected to the Mutts, atleast Sringeri? Thanks once again. Best Regards, Saaji varahamihira , " rkrangan " <rkrangan@g...> wrote: > > Note: I have re-posted this message again with the correct Subject thread. > > > Srimad Sankarabhagavatpadebhyo Namah > > > Dear Saji > > Just wanted to clarify on one aspect. > > His Holiness Jagadguru Narasimha Bharati Swamigal was born in 1797 > according to Sringeri Mutt. His Holiness was born in Pingala varsha, > Month of Karthikai, Sukla Chaturdasi in the birth star of Aswini, as > per their records. His Holiness Narasimha Bharati Swamigal's ascension > to the Sringeri Peetam has an interesting background. > > The date of Mar 11, 1858 that you have given, corresponds to His > Holiness Jagadguru Sri Sacchidananda Sivaabhinava Narasimha Bharati > Swamigal (the 33rd Peetadipathi) who was the Guru of His Holiness > Jagadguru Sri Chandrasekara Bharathi Swamigal. > > These Acharyas were great Jagadgurus of their times and have made > immense contributions. > > Adi Sankara's date: There has been total disagreement among Sankara > Mathas on Sri Adi Sankara's date. Kanchi records show date of Sri > Sankara Bhagavatpada to be 509-477 BC. The research has stunning and > supporting evidence. A chart has also been re-constructed for Him to > have been born in the constellation of Punarvasu in 2631 Yudhisthira > Saka which corresponds to 2593 Kali i.e. 509 B.C., but without a date, > based on Chitsukha's Brhat Sankara Vijaya. Position of Rahu and Ketu > are also missing. Let's hope to have some clarity that we can do more > research. > > Best wishes > R. Kasthuri Rangan > > p.s: The website for Kanchi Kamakoti Peetam is www.kamakoti.org. > The official webite for Sringeri Peetam is www.sringeri.org, but is > still under construction. > > > > varahamihira , " saaji kulangara " <saajik> > wrote: > > > > Om Subrahmanyaya Namah > > > > Namaste, > > > > I have the following charts with me: > > > > 1) Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati > > May 20, 1894 13.22 79E32 11N57 +5.30 > > 2) Swami Jayendra Saraswati > > Jul 18, 1935 19.00 79E26 10N42 > > 3) Swami Narasimha Bharati > > Mar 11, 1858 21.10 78E00 13N00 > > 4) Swami Sivananda > > Sep 8, 1887 4.16 LMT 77e40 8N48 > > 5) Swami Vidyaranya > > Apr 11, 1296 10.58 PM LMT 15N 77E > > > > They were all Sankaracharyas. The paramacharya of Sringeri and Kanchi > > have their web sites: Try on `Sringeri' and `kamakoti' respectively. > > Try with .com and .org > > > > You can see the lineage of Sringeri and their major works in their > > site.For Puri etc; as far as I know, don't have their sites though a > > search in the web will give many references for their teachings. > > > > * * * > > > > There is a group named in the , where in > > the file section, there is a word file named Adi Sanakracharya which > > has his life sketch. This is so nicely presented. How authentic it's > > I don't know, I found differences in some events I have heard.(My > > grand father's guru and relative was the great scholar of many fields > > Sri Punnasseri Nambi Neelakanta Sarma. Based on his sanskrit > > commentary Dr Raman wrote Prasna Marga Part 1 English translation) > > > > And, Dr Raman gave the birth year of Adi Sanakracharya in BC while > > other scholars acknowledge it as in 700-900AD. Dr Raman says in > > Notable Horoscopes that the Guruparampara list preserved in Sringeri > > Mutt shows that Acharya was born in BC. But the site I refered above > > for Sringeri has their lineage described with Adi Sanakracharya > > established the Mutt in 820AD. Dr Raman was a blessed soul and he > > should be correct, yet there appears to have solid differences. > > > > * * * > > > > The main reason for this post, though, is US election result. Bush > > emerged as winner. Just wanted to congratulate all those predicted it > > right, here or elsewhere. I understand that Sri Narasimha, Sri > > Ramadas Rao, Sri Rao Nemani etc predicted Bush win, my hearty > > congratulations to them. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Saaji > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Om Subrahmanyaya Namah Dear Rosemaryji, Sringeri and Kanchi are places of South. Puri in the East, Dwaraka in the West and Badari in the North are the places of other Sankaracharyas. Paramaachaarya is how the main aachaarya is termed. Param means higher and acharya means perceptor. His discples who are initiated into Sanyasam (renunciation) are also Godly, hence the term. Best Regards, Saaji varahamihira , " R Innes-Jones " <rf.innes- jones@x> wrote: > Om Brihaspataye Namah > > Dear Saaji and Ramadas Rao , namaste, > > Thankyou so much for these details. I had missed Saaji's post , and only just now seen Ramadas's mail. > > Saaji, this is wonderful, to have this data. Please excuse my ignorance but can you explain to me The paramacharya of Sringeri and Kanchi. Are they places? > > Kindest regards > Rosemary Innes-Jones > - > Ramadas Rao > varahamihira > Friday, November 05, 2004 3:19 AM > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Birthtime for Shankaracharyas > > > ` nmae naray[ay, > > om namo näräyaëäya| > > Dear Saaji, > > Thanks for your wishes and also for the birth details of Swamijis from Shri Shankaracharya Parampara. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > > saaji kulangara <saajik> wrote: > > > Om Subrahmanyaya Namah > > Namaste, > > I have the following charts with me: > > 1) Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati > May 20, 1894 13.22 79E32 11N57 +5.30 > 2) Swami Jayendra Saraswati > Jul 18, 1935 19.00 79E26 10N42 > 3) Swami Narasimha Bharati > Mar 11, 1858 21.10 78E00 13N00 > 4) Swami Sivananda > Sep 8, 1887 4.16 LMT 77e40 8N48 > 5) Swami Vidyaranya > Apr 11, 1296 10.58 PM LMT 15N 77E > > They were all Sankaracharyas. The paramacharya of Sringeri and Kanchi > have their web sites: Try on `Sringeri' and `kamakoti' respectively. > Try with .com and .org > > You can see the lineage of Sringeri and their major works in their > site.For Puri etc; as far as I know, don't have their sites though a > search in the web will give many references for their teachings. > > * * * > > There is a group named in the , where in > the file section, there is a word file named Adi Sanakracharya which > has his life sketch. This is so nicely presented. How authentic it's > I don't know, I found differences in some events I have heard. (My > grand father's guru and relative was the great scholar of many fields > Sri Punnasseri Nambi Neelakanta Sarma. Based on his sanskrit > commentary Dr Raman wrote Prasna Marga Part 1 English translation) > > And, Dr Raman gave the birth year of Adi Sanakracharya in BC while > other scholars acknowledge it as in 700-900AD. Dr Raman says in > Notable Horoscopes that the Guruparampara list preserved in Sringeri > Mutt shows that Acharya was born in BC. But the site I refered above > for Sringeri has their lineage described with Adi Sanakracharya > established the Mutt in 820AD. Dr Raman was a blessed soul and he > should be correct, yet there appears to have solid differences. > > * * * > > The main reason for this post, though, is US election result. Bush > emerged as winner. Just wanted to congratulate all those predicted it > right, here or elsewhere. I understand that Sri Narasimha, Sri > Ramadas Rao, Sri Rao Nemani etc predicted Bush win, my hearty > congratulations to them. > > Best Regards, > > Saaji > > > > varahamihira , " R Innes-Jones " jones@x> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Brihaspataye Namah > > > > Namaste All, > > > > Does anyone have the birthtimes of the Shankaryacharyas, North > South East and West for the past few hundred years? Or know where I > can find these? > > > > I am particularly interested in Sri Shankaracharya Shantanand > Saraswati of Jyotir Math, and Guru Deva his guru. > > Also His Holiness Jagadguru Shri Shankaracharya Brahma Niwasa > Ashrama from Allahabad. > > > > Many thanks for any help or direction to find these, > > Kind Regards > > Rosemary Innes-Jones |Om Tat Sat| > http://www.varahamihira > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Srimadsankarabhagavatpadebhyo Namah Dear Saji The dates mentioned on the Sringeri website refers to the period during which each Acharya was the presiding pontiff of the Peetam. Sringeri records appear to have a strong possibility of certain technical errors which is beyond the purview of this list. But in my considered opinion, Sankara Bhagavatpada's date and year as proved by some independent scholars with historic evidence cannot be neglected. The chart should be analysed if we receive additional inputs especially the date and time. As regards HH Jagadguru Vidyaranya, he was Acharya of the Sringeri parampara between 1380 and 1386, which is listed on the website as per Sringeri records. But remember there is an insoluble problem when available chronology of Sringeri and Kudali Mutts are studied. Kudali maintains a different record for HH Jagadguru Vidyaranya. We can stick to HH Jagadguru Vidyaranya as per Singeri records for now, though I am not sure about his birth data. Maybe I should attempt to search for it in Sringeri. In what I have experienced, learnt hard and now been taught is, there is much more in a chart of Sankaracharya, that one cannot see, without divine sanction and direction. Best wishes R. Kasthuri Rangan varahamihira , " saaji kulangara " <saajik> wrote: > > Om Subrahmanyaya Namah > > Dear Kasturiji, > > I am very much thankful to you for taking time to write. One more > thing, I simply copied the available data and unfortunately Swami > Sivananda also got added to the list. He was not a Sanakracharya, but > a great Yogi and scholar. I regret the error. > > Regarding Swami Narasimha Bharati, this was given by Dr Raman in his > Notable Horoscopes. Probably He omitted `Sacchidananda Shivabhinava'. > The other Swamijii's data `Pingala varsha, Month of Karthikai, Sukla > Chaturdasi in the birth star of Aswini'. The date seems to be Nov 3 > 1797, I'm eagerly waiting for the site to get updated. > > Swami Vidyaranya's period given in the site doesn't match his birth > details. > > Regarding Adi Sanakracharya's period, I tend to believe the period > mentioned by Sringeri. It's said that, to reach Sarvajna Peetam, > young Sankara wrote a commentary named `Jaya Mangala' for Brihat > Jataka. Do you / anyone in the list have any idea? > > Are you connected to the Mutts, atleast Sringeri? > > Thanks once again. > > Best Regards, > > Saaji > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Dear friends. A few more addition to data discussed. 1. Jagadguru Sri Abhinava Vidyathirtha Swamingal 13 Nov 1917 TOB 8-30AM POB Bangalore. 2. Jagadguru Sri Chandrasekhara Bharathi Swamingal DOB 16 OCT 1892 at 3.25 Ghatis.(Asc 22D9Mof Sco) Above data is used by Late Shri H.R.Seshadri Iyer in his book New Techniques of Prediction. Note In royal horoscope named book it is stated that Sri Chanrasekara Bharati Jagad Guru of Sringeri was born on 16 th oct 1872 A.D. in cyclic year of Nandan on sunday , the 11 th of dark half of lunar month Aswija on second of solar month Libra at 3-16 Ghatis after sunrise in constellation Makha. HE was ordained Gadguru in 1912. Hari om tatsat. RCS Sat, 06 Nov 2004 04:40:03 -0000 "saaji kulangara" <saajikRe: Birthtime for ShankaracharyasOm Subrahmanyaya NamahDear Kasturiji,I am very much thankful to you for taking time to write. One more thing, I simply copied the available data and unfortunately Swami Sivananda also got added to the list. He was not a Sanakracharya, but a great Yogi and scholar. I regret the error.Regarding Swami Narasimha Bharati, this was given by Dr Raman in his Notable Horoscopes. Probably He omitted `Sacchidananda Shivabhinava'. The other Swamijii's data `Pingala varsha, Month of Karthikai, Sukla Chaturdasi in the birth star of Aswini'. The date seems to be Nov 3 1797, I'm eagerly waiting for the site to get updated. Swami Vidyaranya's period given in the site doesn't match his birth details. Regarding Adi Sanakracharya's period, I tend to believe the period mentioned by Sringeri. It's said that, to reach Sarvajna Peetam, young Sankara wrote a commentary named `Jaya Mangala' for Brihat Jataka. Do you / anyone in the list have any idea? Are you connected to the Mutts, atleast Sringeri? Thanks once again.Best Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "rkrangan" <rkrangan@g...> wrote:> > Note: I have re-posted this message again with the correct Subject thread.> > > Srimad Sankarabhagavatpadebhyo Namah> > > Dear Saji> > Just wanted to clarify on one aspect.> > His Holiness Jagadguru Narasimha Bharati Swamigal was born in 1797> according to Sringeri Mutt. His Holiness was born in Pingala varsha,> Month of Karthikai, Sukla Chaturdasi in the birth star of Aswini, as> per their records. His Holiness Narasimha Bharati Swamigal's ascension> to the Sringeri Peetam has an interesting background.> > The date of Mar 11, 1858 that you have given, corresponds to His> Holiness Jagadguru Sri Sacchidananda Sivaabhinava Narasimha Bharati> Swamigal (the 33rd Peetadipathi) who was the Guru of His Holiness> Jagadguru Sri Chandrasekara Bharathi Swamigal.> > These Acharyas were great Jagadgurus of their times and have made> immense contributions.> > Adi Sankara's date: There has been total disagreement among Sankara> Mathas on Sri Adi Sankara's date. Kanchi records show date of Sri> Sankara Bhagavatpada to be 509-477 BC. The research has stunning and> supporting evidence. A chart has also been re-constructed for Him to> have been born in the constellation of Punarvasu in 2631 Yudhisthira> Saka which corresponds to 2593 Kali i.e. 509 B.C., but without a date,> based on Chitsukha's Brhat Sankara Vijaya. Position of Rahu and Ketu> are also missing. Let's hope to have some clarity that we can do more> research.> > Best wishes> R. Kasthuri Rangan> > p.s: The website for Kanchi Kamakoti Peetam is www.kamakoti.org.> The official webite for Sringeri Peetam is www.sringeri.org, but is> still under construction.> > > > varahamihira , "saaji kulangara" <saajik>> wrote:> > > > Om Subrahmanyaya Namah> > > > Namaste,> > > > I have the following charts with me:> > > > 1) Swami Chandrasekhara Saraswati> > May 20, 1894 13.22 79E32 11N57 +5.30> > 2) Swami Jayendra Saraswati> > Jul 18, 1935 19.00 79E26 10N42> > 3) Swami Narasimha Bharati> > Mar 11, 1858 21.10 78E00 13N00 > > 4) Swami Sivananda> > Sep 8, 1887 4.16 LMT 77e40 8N48> > 5) Swami Vidyaranya> > Apr 11, 1296 10.58 PM LMT 15N 77E > > > > They were all Sankaracharyas. The paramacharya of Sringeri and Kanchi > > have their web sites: Try on `Sringeri' and `kamakoti' respectively. > > Try with .com and .org > > > > You can see the lineage of Sringeri and their major works in their > > site.For Puri etc; as far as I know, don't have their sites though a > > search in the web will give many references for their teachings.> > > > * * *> > > > There is a group named in the , where in > > the file section, there is a word file named Adi Sanakracharya which > > has his life sketch. This is so nicely presented. How authentic it's > > I don't know, I found differences in some events I have heard.(My > > grand father's guru and relative was the great scholar of many fields > > Sri Punnasseri Nambi Neelakanta Sarma. Based on his sanskrit > > commentary Dr Raman wrote Prasna Marga Part 1 English translation)> > > > And, Dr Raman gave the birth year of Adi Sanakracharya in BC while > > other scholars acknowledge it as in 700-900AD. Dr Raman says in > > Notable Horoscopes that the Guruparampara list preserved in Sringeri > > Mutt shows that Acharya was born in BC. But the site I refered above > > for Sringeri has their lineage described with Adi Sanakracharya > > established the Mutt in 820AD. Dr Raman was a blessed soul and he > > should be correct, yet there appears to have solid differences.> > > > * * *> > > > The main reason for this post, though, is US election result. Bush > > emerged as winner. Just wanted to congratulate all those predicted it > > right, here or elsewhere. I understand that Sri Narasimha, Sri > > Ramadas Rao, Sri Rao Nemani etc predicted Bush win, my hearty > > congratulations to them. > > > > Best Regards,> > > > Saaji> > > > Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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