RE: [SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

November 17, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Ramesh,

Namaskar

Yes it is

used for rectification.

Actually

Ishta means “most desired”. In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th house

is called; Ishta Devata, and that’s why many people have argued that

Sanjayji’s use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of

his teachings in a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the

use of 12th from Kärakämça because of this.

But in the Parampara

that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be that deity which gives

you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from Orissa where worship of

Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the logic going into this.

So because of

this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the Mukti-devata, or

what you may call it.

To save us

from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra Kala Nadi,

another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça; Jeevanmukta-amsa.

Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in this body (jeevan-mukta).

Once we’ve

settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses the same 12th

from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

Now the 5th

house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn’t mean Räçi cannot be

seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most. Some people

like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that this will give

moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does not have

to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity, but it is

a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity giving moksha

is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

Preferably

you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti Devata

associated with 5th house.

I like

Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also the

Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

Ramesh

Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]

17 November 2004 14:19

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti,

I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I

have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury

and graha drishti of Rahu! which deity am I likely to adore?

Can this knowledge be used for birth

time rectification?

Is there a link between Ishta Devta and

deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

Kind Regards

Ramesh

Visti Larsen

[visti]

Wednesday, November 17, 2004

4:29 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta

Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Rafal,

Comments below.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

jyotraff

[jyotraff]

17 November 2004 05:51

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul]

ques tions - to Visti JI!

Dear Visti Ji!

Namaskar.

1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by

rasi drishti it also

can give extramaritial relationships ?

[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha

dristi = sexual desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes

me a devotee of

Krsna ?

[Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit

more to confirm whether its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an

unoccupied 5th house – I’m a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be

chaste , 9 house

means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of

herself ?

[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate

with, influence your morals/ideals. That’s why some people after their

spouse cheats on them, they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only

planet in trines is Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon

(Soma – his promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste

step-father), so I cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi

dristi on the Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the

Lagna. So finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5

(devotion) in 10 house

(8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work

in sadhana for

devotion ?

[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage,

so UL in 8 means

fixed marriage ?

[Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th

house – you feel indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them to be

married to them. But if 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a

fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra

in D-n and the

meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

[Visti] In my experience – yes.

Please tell me when You have enough;)

[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra’s

to ensure that I can teach, teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in

the right lines, so you can answer your own questions… otherwise we could

spend a lifetime asking and answering questions.

with respect,

yhs Rafal

[Om Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

Send a blank mail

To :

-

To : -

__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

http://www.nod32.com

[Om

Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

Send a blank mail

To :

-

To :

-

[Om Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

Send a blank mail

To :

-

To : -

__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

http://www.nod32.com

November 18, 2004

|| Aum Vedvyasay Namah ||

Dear Visti ji,

I'm following your discussion with Ramesh ji. Here I think we can get help from 1.4.43 sutra of Jaimini Amatyanucharad Devta Bhakti hi||

I think when there are many planets to influence 5th H (likings) in D20 as well as Rasi also Then BK will have deciding age over others. Like AmK in Lata Mangaeshkar's Chart.

Am I correct?

With Pranam,

Vinay Patwardhan

Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100 "Visti Larsen" <vistiRE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!|Hare Rama Krsna|Dear Ramesh, NamaskarYes it is used for rectification.Actually Ishta means "most desired". In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th house iscalled; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people have argued that Sanjayji'suse of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his teachingsin a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use of 12thfrom Kärakämça because of this. But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD bethat deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara fromOrissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine thelogic going into this. So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for theMukti-devata, or what you may call it. To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in ChandraKala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça;Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation inthis body (jeevan-mukta). Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini usesthe same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed. Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn't mean Räçicannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most.Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance thatthis will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does nothave to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,but it is a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deitygiving moksha is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity. Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the MuktiDevata associated with 5th house.I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also theMukti-devata in my case. lucky me. Which deity do you like? Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti _____ Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 17 November 2004 14:19 Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI! Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti,I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H withrashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of Rahu!which deity am I likely to adore?Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn, Venusand Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!Kind RegardsRameshVisti Larsen [visti]Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!|Hare Rama Krsna|Dear Rafal, Comments below.Best wishes, Visti Larsenvisti _____ jyotraff [jyotraff] 17 November 2004 05:51 Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI! Dear Visti Ji!Namaskar.1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi drishti it also can give extramaritial relationships ?[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexualdesires/passion.2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of Krsna ?[Visti] Yes - Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm whetherits devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied 5th house- I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence yourmorals/ideals. That's why some people after their spouse cheats on them,they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in trines isMercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma - hispromiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father), so Icannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi on theLagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the Lagna. Sofinally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongestinfluence on the Lagna.4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for devotion ?[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means fixed marriage ?[Visti] Nope - not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house - you feelindebted to your spouse - as if you owe them to be married to them. But if8th lord itself is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?[Visti] In my experience - yes.Please tell me when You have enough;)[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I can teach,teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines, so youcan answer your own questions. otherwise we could spend a lifetime askingand answering questions.with respect,yhs Rafal

November 18, 2004

Dear Visti,

Brilliant ... as usual. Finally, I could correct my D-20 and

therefore, D-10 and D-60, because my favorite deity has been vishnu.

Which deity does Ve in Sc represent?

regards,

nitish

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> Yes it is used for rectification.

>

> Actually Ishta means " most desired " . In JÃ¤taka Parijata, the 5th house is

> called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people have argued that Sanjayji's

> use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his teachings

> in a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use of 12th

> from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a because of this.

>

> But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be

> that deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from

> Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the

> logic going into this.

>

> So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the

> Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

>

> To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra

> Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a;

> Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in

> this body (jeevan-mukta).

>

> Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses

> the same 12th from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a, we can proceed.

>

> Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn't mean RÃ¤Ã§i

> cannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most.

> Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that

> this will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does not

> have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,

> but it is a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity

> giving moksha is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

>

> Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti

> Devata associated with 5th house.

>

> I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also the

> Mukti-devata in my caseâ€¦ lucky me. Which deity do you like?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> ________________________________

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]

> 17 November 2004 14:19

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with

> rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of Rahu!

> which deity am I likely to adore?

>

> Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?

>

> Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus

> and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

> Visti Larsen [visti]

> Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Rafal, Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> ________________________________

>

> jyotraff [jyotraff]

> 17 November 2004 05:51

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

>

> Dear Visti Ji!

>

> Namaskar.

>

> 1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi drishti it also

> can give extramaritial relationships ?

>

> [Visti] RÃ¤Ã§i dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexual

> desires/passion.

>

> 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of

> Krsna ?

>

> [Visti] Yes â€“ Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm whether

> its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied 5th house

> â€“ I'm a bhakta of SÃ¼rya and Agni.

>

> 3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house

> means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?

>

> [Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence your

> morals/ideals. That's why some people after their spouse cheats on them,

> they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in trines is

> Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma â€“ his

> promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father), so I

> cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi on the

> Lagna. I also look at RÃ¤hu who also has no connection with the Lagna. So

> finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

> influence on the Lagna.

>

> 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house

> (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for

> devotion ?

>

> [Visti] What does it mean in RÃ¤Ã§i chart?

>

> 5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means

> fixed marriage ?

>

> [Visti] Nope â€“ not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house â€“ you feel

> indebted to your spouse â€“ as if you owe them to be married to them. But if

> 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.

>

> 6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the

> meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

>

> [Visti] In my experience â€“ yes.

>

> Please tell me when You have enough;)

>

> [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I can teach,

> teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines, so you

> can answer your own questionsâ€¦ otherwise we could spend a lifetime asking

> and answering questions.

>

> with respect,

> yhs Rafal

[Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To : -

>

> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

>

> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

> http://www.nod32.com

>

> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To : -

>

> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To : -

>

__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

>

> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

> http://www.nod32.com

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

November 18, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Nitish,

Namaskar

Venus in

Scorpio, I have specifically seen Guruji mention Kamakshi for Venus+Mars

associations. Maybe some trip to Assam will bring some experiences.

But Venus is definitely a female form – more specifically Lakshmi.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

Nitish Arya

[nitish.arya]

18 November 2004 07:55

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| RE:

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

Dear Visti,

Brilliant ... as usual. Finally, I

could correct my D-20 and

therefore, D-10 and D-60, because my favorite

deity has been vishnu.

Which deity does Ve in Sc represent?

regards,

nitish

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100, Visti Larsen

<visti wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> Yes it is used for rectification.

>

> Actually Ishta means " most

desired " . In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th house is

> called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many

people have argued that Sanjayji's

> use of the term is wrong and have argued

against many other of his teachings

> in a similar manor. In fact some have

completely abolished the use of 12th

> from Kärakämça because of this.

>

> But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was

brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be

> that deity which gives you moksha! Makes

sense eh? This is a Parampara from

> Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its

highest, so you can imagine the

> logic going into this.

>

> So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that

the word; Ishta is used for the

> Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

>

> To save us from this trouble of having to

argue with others - in Chandra

> Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th

from Kärakämça;

> Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division

(amsa) that gives liberation in

> this body (jeevan-mukta).

>

> Once we've settled the confusion over terms,

and we know that Jaimini uses

> the same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

>

> Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly

vimsamsa, but doesn't mean Räçi

> cannot be seen for similar indications) shows

which deity you like the most.

> Some people like to worship pisachas, and

spirits. There is no chance that

> this will give moksha, so we must admit to

ourselves that 5th house does not

> have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa

Devata. You may like one deity,

> but it is a different one which is giving

moksha. In most cases, the deity

> giving moksha is realized after tedious

worship of ones desired deity.

>

> Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata,

so aspire to have the Mukti

> Devata associated with 5th house.

>

> I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th

house in D-20, Mercury is also the

> Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which

deity do you like?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> ________________________________

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani

[ramesh.gangaramani]

> 17 November 2004 14:19

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques

tions - to Visti JI!

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have

Saturn, Venus in in 5H with

> rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury

and graha drishti of Rahu!

> which deity am I likely to adore?

>

> Can this knowledge be used for birth time

rectification?

>

> Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity

adored? I see Saturn, Venus

> and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Ramesh

>

> Visti Larsen

[visti]

> Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM

>

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques

tions - to Visti JI!

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Rafal, Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> ________________________________

>

> jyotraff [jyotraff]

> 17 November 2004 05:51

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions -

to Visti JI!

>

> Dear Visti Ji!

>

> Namaskar.

>

> 1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus

by rasi drishti it also

> can give extramaritial relationships ?

>

> [Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility.

Graha dristi = sexual

> desires/passion.

>

> 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this

makes me a devotee of

> Krsna ?

>

> [Visti] Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use

abit more to confirm whether

> its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun

aspecting an unoccupied 5th house

> – I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

>

> 3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will

be chaste , 9 house

> means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of

herself ?

>

> [Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you

associate with, influence your

> morals/ideals. That's why some people after

their spouse cheats on them,

> they start cheating on their spouse. In this

chart, Only planet in trines is

> Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced

strongly by Moon (Soma – his

> promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati

his chaste step-father), so I

> cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter,

Jupiter has rasi dristi on the

> Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no

connection with the Lagna. So

> finally I decided that she was chaste, as

Jupiter has the strongest

> influence on the Lagna.

>

> 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord

of 5 (devotion) in 10 house

> (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of

work in sadhana for

> devotion ?

>

> [Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

>

> 5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage,

so UL in 8 means

> fixed marriage ?

>

> [Visti] Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in

the 8th house – you feel

> indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them

to be married to them. But if

> 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a

fixed marriage.

>

> 6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also

Vakra in D-n and the

> meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts

?

>

> [Visti] In my experience – yes.

>

> Please tell me when You have enough;)

>

> [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do

mantra's to ensure that I can teach,

> teach, teach. But now I must teach you to

think in the right lines, so you

> can answer your own questions… otherwise we

could spend a lifetime asking

> and answering questions.

>

> with respect,

> yhs Rafal

>

> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To :

-

> To :

-

>

> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information

__________

>

> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus

system.

> http://www.nod32.com

>

> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To :

-

> To :

-

>

> [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> Send a blank mail

> To :

-

> To :

-

>

> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information

__________

>

> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus

system.

> http://www.nod32.com

>

> |Om Tat Sat|

> http://www.varahamihira

>

November 18, 2004

|Hare Rama

Krsna|

Dear Vinay,

Namasar

The mantra is

pronounced ; Om VedaVyasaaya Namah. – now it becomes Astakshari.

I’ve never

heard nor thought of interpretating the çloka like that – maybe you are right. What

about AmK in Mrs. Mangeskar’s chart?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

Vinay Patwardhan

[patwardhanvinay]

18 November 2004 05:23

visti

Cc: varahamihira ; ramesh.gangaramani

|Sri Varaha| RE: [sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|| Aum Vedvyasay Namah ||

Dear Visti ji,

I'm following your discussion with Ramesh ji. Here I think

we can get help from 1.4.43 sutra of Jaimini Amatyanucharad Devta Bhakti hi||

I think when there are many planets to influence 5th H

(likings) in D20 as well as Rasi also Then BK will have deciding age over

others. Like AmK in Lata Mangaeshkar's Chart.

Am I correct?

With Pranam,

Vinay Patwardhan

Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100

" Visti Larsen " <visti

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

Yes it is used for rectification.

Actually Ishta means " most desired " . In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th

house is

called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people have argued that Sanjayji's

use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his teachings

in a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use of 12th

from Kärakämça because of this.

But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be

that deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from

Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the

logic going into this.

So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the

Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra

Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça;

Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in

this body (jeevan-mukta).

Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses

the same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn't mean Räçi

cannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most.

Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that

this will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does not

have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,

but it is a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity

giving moksha is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti

Devata associated with 5th house.

I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also the

Mukti-devata in my case. lucky me. Which deity do you like?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

_____

Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]

17 November 2004 14:19

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti,

I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with

rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of Rahu!

which deity am I likely to adore?

Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?

Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus

and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

Kind Regards

Ramesh

Visti Larsen [visti]

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Rafal, Comments below.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

_____

jyotraff [jyotraff]

17 November 2004 05:51

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

Dear Visti Ji!

Namaskar.

1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi drishti it also

can give extramaritial relationships ?

[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexual

desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of

Krsna ?

[Visti] Yes - Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm whether

its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied 5th house

- I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house

means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?

[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence your

morals/ideals. That's why some people after their spouse cheats on them,

they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in trines is

Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma - his

promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father), so I

cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi on the

Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the Lagna. So

finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house

(8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for

devotion ?

[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means

fixed marriage ?

[Visti] Nope - not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house - you feel

indebted to your spouse - as if you owe them to be married to them. But if

8th lord itself is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the

meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

[Visti] In my experience - yes.

Please tell me when You have enough;)

[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I can teach,

teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines, so you

can answer your own questions. otherwise we could spend a lifetime asking

and answering questions.

with respect,

yhs Rafal

|Om

Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

http://www.nod32.com

November 18, 2004

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear visti,

In my chart, there is a parivartana of Mars in Li and Venus in Sc

in D-20, Sc as Asc. Incidentally, I have done my graduation in Assam

and have visited the shrine of Kamakhya only once in 4 years. In fact,

Kamakhya is the first shakti peetham that I visited " on my own " ,

realizing it much later that I actually visited the most important

shakti peetham.

Recently, I visited Kamakshi Amman temple in Kanchipuram, and

Meenakshi temple in Madurai on a trip to south India. However, apart

from general spirituality, there are no associated experiences -

which might come in the relevant dasha.

While Kamakhya is related to Ve-Ma combination as you told,

Kamakshi as RajaRajeswari is related to Mercury. For each, here is a

little information that I collected from Internet.

Sri Kamakshi Devi is Raja Rajeswari, and an embodiment of universal

power-Parasakti. Hence there is no separate Ambal or Sakti shrine in

Siva temples within the limits of Kanchipuram. Sri Adi Sankara had

installed and consecrated a Srichakra in front of the Deity and the

daily worship is done for this chakra -- known as the Kamakoti Peeta.

Kamakshi is the presiding deity of the city of Kanchi. The Goddess is

said to reside as Bala Tripurasundari in a Bila (niche) situated under

the shrine. The front mandapa is called the Gayatri Mandapa. In the

Ardha Mandapa preceding the Garbhagriha, the Goddess is enshrined in a

pitha, as Sri Vidya Parameswari.

The Kamakhya Temple in Assam is one of the most venerated Shakti

shrines in India, and is regarded as one of the Shakti Peethams

associated with the legend of Shiva and Daksha Yagna.

Kamakhya is located on a hill - Neelachala Parvat or Kamagiri near

the city of Guwahati in Assam. Shakti, residing on the Kamagiri hill

is known as Kamakhya, the granter of desires. Assam traditionally has

been known as the Kamarupa Desa and has been associated with Tantric

practices and Shakti worship.

The Kalika Purana, an ancient work in Sanskrit describes Kamakhya

as the yielder of all desires, the young bride of Shiva, and the giver

of salvation.

regards,

nitish

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:22:03 +0100, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

>

> Dear Nitish, Namaskar

>

> Venus in Scorpio, I have specifically seen Guruji mention Kamakshi for

> Venus+Mars associations. Maybe some trip to Assam will bring some

> experiences. But Venus is definitely a female form â€“ more specifically

> Lakshmi.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> visti

>

> ________________________________

>

> Nitish Arya [nitish.arya]

> 18 November 2004 07:55

> varahamihira

> Re: |Sri Varaha| RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti

> JI!

>

> Dear Visti,

> Brilliant ... as usual. Finally, I could correct my D-20 and

> therefore, D-10 and D-60, because my favorite deity has been vishnu.

> Which deity does Ve in Sc represent?

>

> regards,

> nitish

>

> On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100, Visti Larsen <visti

> wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

> >

> > Yes it is used for rectification.

> >

> > Actually Ishta means " most desired " . In JÃ¤taka Parijata, the 5th house is

> > called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people have argued that

> Sanjayji's

> > use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his

> teachings

> > in a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use of 12th

> > from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a because of this.

> >

> > But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD

> be

> > that deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara

> from

> > Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine

> the

> > logic going into this.

> >

> > So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for

> the

> > Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

> >

> > To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra

> > Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a;

> > Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in

> > this body (jeevan-mukta).

> >

> > Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses

> > the same 12th from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a, we can proceed.

> >

> > Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn't mean

> RÃ¤Ã§i

> > cannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the

> most.

> > Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that

> > this will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does

> not

> > have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,

> > but it is a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity

> > giving moksha is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

> >

> > Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti

> > Devata associated with 5th house.

> >

> > I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also

> the

> > Mukti-devata in my caseâ€¦ lucky me. Which deity do you like?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > visti

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]

> > 17 November 2004 14:19

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

> >

> > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with

> > rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of Rahu!

> > which deity am I likely to adore?

> >

> > Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?

> >

> > Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus

> > and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!

> >

> > Kind Regards

> >

> > Ramesh

> >

> > Visti Larsen [visti]

> > Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM

> >

> > RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Rafal, Comments below.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > visti

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > jyotraff [jyotraff]

> > 17 November 2004 05:51

> >

> > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

> >

> > Dear Visti Ji!

> >

> > Namaskar.

> >

> > 1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi drishti it also

> > can give extramaritial relationships ?

> >

> > [Visti] RÃ¤Ã§i dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexual

> > desires/passion.

> >

> > 2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of

> > Krsna ?

> >

> > [Visti] Yes â€“ Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm whether

> > its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied 5th

> house

> > â€“ I'm a bhakta of SÃ¼rya and Agni.

> >

> > 3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house

> > means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?

> >

> > [Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence your

> > morals/ideals. That's why some people after their spouse cheats on them,

> > they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in trines

> is

> > Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma â€“ his

> > promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father), so I

> > cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi on the

> > Lagna. I also look at RÃ¤hu who also has no connection with the Lagna. So

> > finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongest

> > influence on the Lagna.

> >

> > 4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house

> > (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for

> > devotion ?

> >

> > [Visti] What does it mean in RÃ¤Ã§i chart?

> >

> > 5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means

> > fixed marriage ?

> >

> > [Visti] Nope â€“ not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house â€“ you feel

> > indebted to your spouse â€“ as if you owe them to be married to them. But if

> > 8th lord itself is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.

> >

> > 6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the

> > meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?

> >

> > [Visti] In my experience â€“ yes.

> >

> > Please tell me when You have enough;)

> >

> > [Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I can

> teach,

> > teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines, so you

> > can answer your own questionsâ€¦ otherwise we could spend a lifetime asking

> > and answering questions.

> >

> > with respect,

> > yhs Rafal

> >

> > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> > Send a blank mail

> > To : -

> >

> > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

> >

> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

> > http://www.nod32.com

> >

> > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> > Send a blank mail

> > To : -

> >

> > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

> > Send a blank mail

> > To : -

> >

> > __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

> >

> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

> > http://www.nod32.com

> >

> > |Om Tat Sat|

> > http://www.varahamihira

> >

November 18, 2004

Dear Visti,

Could you point me to the shloka of Jataka Parijata that associates

Ishta Devata with 5th house?

Chandrashekhar.

Visti Larsen wrote:

|Hare

Rama

Krsna|

Dear

Ramesh,

Namaskar

Yes

it is

used for rectification.

Actually

Ishta means “most desired”. In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th

house

is called; Ishta Devata, and that’s why many people have argued that

Sanjayji’s use of the term is wrong and have argued against many other

of

his teachings in a similar manor. In fact some have completely

abolished the

use of 12th from Kärakämça because of this.

But

in the Parampara

that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD be that deity

which gives

you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara from Orissa where

worship of

Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine the logic going into

this.

So

because of

this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for the

Mukti-devata, or

what you may call it.

To

save us

from this trouble of having to argue with others - in Chandra Kala

Nadi,

another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça;

Jeevanmukta-amsa.

Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation in this body

(jeevan-mukta).

Once

we’ve

settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini uses the

same 12th

from Kärakämça, we can proceed.

Now

the 5th

house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn’t mean Räçi cannot

be

seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most. Some

people

like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance that this

will give

moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does

not have

to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,

but it is

a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deity giving

moksha

is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity.

Preferably

you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the Mukti Devata

associated with 5th house.

I

like

Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is

also the

Mukti-devata in my case… lucky me. Which deity do you like?

Best

wishes,

Visti

Larsen

visti

Ramesh

Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani]

17 November 2004

14:19

To:

RE: [sJC:

Achyuta

Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

Satyam

Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Visti,

I am

tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I

have Saturn, Venus in in 5H with rashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and

Mercury

and graha drishti of Rahu! which deity am I likely to adore?

Can this

knowledge be used for birth

time rectification?

Is there a

link between Ishta Devta and

deity adored? I see Saturn, Venus and Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in

both!

Kind

Regards

Ramesh

-----Original

Message-----

Visti Larsen

[visti]

Wednesday, November 17, 2004

4:29 PM

To:

RE: [sJC:

Achyuta

Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|Hare

Rama

Krsna|

Dear

Rafal,

Comments below.

Best

wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

jyotraff

[jyotraff]

17 November

2004 05:51

To:

[sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul]

ques tions - to Visti JI!

Dear Visti Ji!

Namaskar.

1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by

venus by

rasi drishti it also

can give extramaritial relationships ?

[Visti]

Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha

dristi = sexual desires/passion.

2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon -

this makes

me a devotee of

Krsna ?

[Visti]

Yes – Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit

more to confirm whether its devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun

aspecting an

unoccupied 5th house – I’m a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.

3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she

will be

chaste , 9 house

means morals of spouse (7+9) , not

morals of

herself ?

[Visti]

Sometimes the morals of those you associate

with, influence your morals/ideals. That’s why some people after their

spouse cheats on them, they start cheating on their spouse. In this

chart, Only

planet in trines is Mercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by

Moon

(Soma – his promiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste

step-father), so I cannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter

has rasi

dristi on the Lagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection

with the

Lagna. So finally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the

strongest

influence on the Lagna.

4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord

of 5

(devotion) in 10 house

(8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is

sign of work

in sadhana for

devotion ?

[Visti]

What does it mean in Räçi chart?

5. You said that UL with 8 H makes

fixed marriage,

so UL in 8 means

fixed marriage ?

[Visti]

Nope – not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th

house – you feel indebted to your spouse – as if you owe them to be

married to them. But if 8th lord itself is there, then it

may be a

fixed marriage.

6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is

also Vakra

in D-n and the

meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n

charts ?

[Visti]

In my experience – yes.

Please tell me when You have enough;)

[Visti]

Every day when i wake up, I do mantra’s

to ensure that I can teach, teach, teach. But now I must teach you to

think in

the right lines, so you can answer your own questions… otherwise we

could

spend a lifetime asking and answering questions.

with respect,

yhs Rafal

[Om

Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

Send a blank mail

To :

-

To :

-

__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

http://www.nod32.com

[Om

Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

Send a blank mail

To :

-

To :

-

[Om

Kleem

Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]

Send a blank mail

To :

-

To :

-

__________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________

This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.

http://www.nod32.com

|Om Tat Sat|

http://www.varahamihira

November 19, 2004

Dear visti

Interesting discussion. Nitish very good discription

of Shakti peetams. Here is another observation of the

power of Shakti. In Lalitha Sahasranamam in one of the

stanzas it is given like this:

The stanza reads like this:

Aabrahma Keeta Janani varnashrama vidhayini (133)

nijaagna roopa nigamaa punyaapunya phalprada (134)

Now Brahma means Mesha (Aries), keeta means

Vrishika(Scorpio), janani means creator. So from 1 to

8 houses which represents the Tanu to Death. Varna

means planet and Varnashrama means their transits and

movements vidhayani means controller.

So the first stanza gives a meaning the from 1 to 8th

houses representing self to death and the controlling

planets are all controlled by the Shakti.

In the second stanza:

Nija means father, Aagna is tenth place, roopa means

Tanu (self) realization represening 11th house and

Nigama means Moksha (12th house). Punyaapunya means

good and bad deeds performed by you in earlier life,

phalaprada means the giver.

So in the above two stanzas it is very clears the

Shakti is the giver of all results related to the 12

houses of Zodiac as she controls the movements and

placements of the planets based on the Punya and

apunya (good and bad) deeds of a person.

Regards,

Murthy Valluri

--- Nitish Arya <nitish.arya wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krsna|

> Dear visti,

> In my chart, there is a parivartana of Mars in

> Li and Venus in Sc

> in D-20, Sc as Asc. Incidentally, I have done my

> graduation in Assam

> and have visited the shrine of Kamakhya only once in

> 4 years. In fact,

> Kamakhya is the first shakti peetham that I visited

> " on my own " ,

> realizing it much later that I actually visited the

> most important

> shakti peetham.

> Recently, I visited Kamakshi Amman temple in

> Kanchipuram, and

> Meenakshi temple in Madurai on a trip to south

> India. However, apart

> from general spirituality, there are no associated

> experiences -

> which might come in the relevant dasha.

> While Kamakhya is related to Ve-Ma combination as

> you told,

> Kamakshi as RajaRajeswari is related to Mercury. For

> each, here is a

> little information that I collected from Internet.

>

> Sri Kamakshi Devi is Raja Rajeswari, and an

> embodiment of universal

> power-Parasakti. Hence there is no separate Ambal or

> Sakti shrine in

> Siva temples within the limits of Kanchipuram. Sri

> Adi Sankara had

> installed and consecrated a Srichakra in front of

> the Deity and the

> daily worship is done for this chakra -- known as

> the Kamakoti Peeta.

> Kamakshi is the presiding deity of the city of

> Kanchi. The Goddess is

> said to reside as Bala Tripurasundari in a Bila

> (niche) situated under

> the shrine. The front mandapa is called the Gayatri

> Mandapa. In the

> Ardha Mandapa preceding the Garbhagriha, the Goddess

> is enshrined in a

> pitha, as Sri Vidya Parameswari.

>

> The Kamakhya Temple in Assam is one of the most

> venerated Shakti

> shrines in India, and is regarded as one of the

> Shakti Peethams

> associated with the legend of Shiva and Daksha

> Yagna.

> Kamakhya is located on a hill - Neelachala Parvat

> or Kamagiri near

> the city of Guwahati in Assam. Shakti, residing on

> the Kamagiri hill

> is known as Kamakhya, the granter of desires. Assam

> traditionally has

> been known as the Kamarupa Desa and has been

> associated with Tantric

> practices and Shakti worship.

> The Kalika Purana, an ancient work in Sanskrit

> describes Kamakhya

> as the yielder of all desires, the young bride of

> Shiva, and the giver

> of salvation.

>

> regards,

> nitish

>

> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:22:03 +0100, Visti Larsen

> <visti wrote:

> >

> > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> >

> > Dear Nitish, Namaskar

> >

> > Venus in Scorpio, I have specifically seen Guruji

> mention Kamakshi for

> > Venus+Mars associations. Maybe some trip to Assam

> will bring some

> > experiences. But Venus is definitely a female form

> â€“ more specifically

> > Lakshmi.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > visti

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > Nitish Arya [nitish.arya]

> > 18 November 2004 07:55

> > varahamihira

> > Re: |Sri Varaha| RE: [sJC: Achyuta

> Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti

> > JI!

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> > Brilliant ... as usual. Finally, I could

> correct my D-20 and

> > therefore, D-10 and D-60, because my favorite

> deity has been vishnu.

> > Which deity does Ve in Sc represent?

> >

> > regards,

> > nitish

> >

> > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100, Visti Larsen

> <visti

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Yes it is used for rectification.

> > >

> > > Actually Ishta means " most desired " . In JÃ¤taka

> Parijata, the 5th house is

> > > called; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people

> have argued that

> > Sanjayji's

> > > use of the term is wrong and have argued against

> many other of his

> > teachings

> > > in a similar manor. In fact some have completely

> abolished the use of 12th

> > > from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a because of this.

> > >

> > > But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought

> up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD

> > be

> > > that deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense

> eh? This is a Parampara

> > from

> > > Orissa where worship of Jagannath is at its

> highest, so you can imagine

> > the

> > > logic going into this.

> > >

> > > So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the

> word; Ishta is used for

> > the

> > > Mukti-devata, or what you may call it.

> > >

> > > To save us from this trouble of having to argue

> with others - in Chandra

> > > Kala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th

> from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a;

> > > Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa)

> that gives liberation in

> > > this body (jeevan-mukta).

> > >

> > > Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and

> we know that Jaimini uses

> > > the same 12th from KÃ¤rakÃ¤mÃ§a, we can proceed.

> > >

> > > Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly

> vimsamsa, but doesn't mean

> > RÃ¤Ã§i

> > > cannot be seen for similar indications) shows

> which deity you like the

> > most.

> > > Some people like to worship pisachas, and

> spirits. There is no chance that

> > > this will give moksha, so we must admit to

> ourselves that 5th house does

> > not

> > > have to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa

> Devata. You may like one deity,

> > > but it is a different one which is giving

> moksha.

=== message truncated ===

Meet the all-new My - Try it today!

November 19, 2004

||Om Ved Vyasay Namah ||

Dear Visti ji,

Pranam. Thanks for correcting the mantra, vert first.

Secondly I'm writing only with reference to Jaimini Maharshi's Updesa sutra translated by Guruji !! Where he mentions Amatyanucharad can be treated as 12th from Amk or BK in Chara karka system. But in 1.2.82 we have seen worship is seen from 6th H from Amk. Hence BK should be acceptable. Where Guruji gives the translation:-

"The deity the native will adore is seen from the BK"

I think this gives some linking in Rameshji's discussion, where we have many planets influencing.

Here I thought for Lata Mangeshkar's chart. She's having many planets in trines to Navamsa Asc (Lagnamsa) which may show multiple vocational indications but again Guruji mentions Amk has deciding edge over other planets. If my logic is not wrong we can use same logic in D20 ,5th H and if there are many planets influencing on 5th H, Bk can have deciding edge over other planets!!

Is my thinking is going in right direction? Pls rectify

With Pranam,

Vinay Patwardhan

Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:27:45 +0100 "Visti Larsen" <vistiRE: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!|Hare Rama Krsna|Dear Vinay, NamasarThe mantra is pronounced ; Om VedaVyasaaya Namah. - now it becomesAstakshari. I've never heard nor thought of interpretating the çloka like that - maybeyou are right. What about AmK in Mrs. Mangeskar's chart? Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti _____ Vinay Patwardhan [patwardhanvinay] 18 November 2004 05:23vistiCc: varahamihira ; ramesh.gangaramaniSubject: |Sri Varaha| RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI! || Aum Vedvyasay Namah || Dear Visti ji, I'm following your discussion with Ramesh ji. Here I think we can get helpfrom 1.4.43 sutra of Jaimini Amatyanucharad Devta Bhakti hi|| I think when there are many planets to influence 5th H (likings) in D20 aswell as Rasi also Then BK will have deciding age over others. Like AmK inLata Mangaeshkar's Chart. Am I correct? With Pranam, Vinay Patwardhan _____ Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:51:30 +0100 "Visti Larsen" <vistiRE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!|Hare Rama Krsna|Dear Ramesh, NamaskarYes it is used for rectification.Actually Ishta means "most desired". In Jätaka Parijata, the 5th house iscalled; Ishta Devata, and that's why many people have argued that Sanjayji'suse of the term is wrong and have argued against many other of his teachingsin a similar manor. In fact some have completely abolished the use of 12thfrom Kärakämça because of this. But in the Parampara that Sanjayji was brought up in, Ishta Devata SHOULD bethat deity which gives you moksha! Makes sense eh? This is a Parampara fromOrissa where worship of Jagannath is at its highest, so you can imagine thelogic going into this. So because of this; Sanjayji was taught that the word; Ishta is used for theMukti-devata, or what you may call it. To save us from this trouble of having to argue with others - in ChandraKala Nadi, another name is given for the 12th from Kärakämça;Jeevanmukta-amsa. Meaning; that division (amsa) that gives liberation inthis body (jeevan-mukta). Once we've settled the confusion over terms, and we know that Jaimini usesthe same 12th from Kärakämça, we can proceed. Now the 5th house in Vimsamsa (particularly vimsamsa, but doesn't mean Räçicannot be seen for similar indications) shows which deity you like the most.Some people like to worship pisachas, and spirits. There is no chance thatthis will give moksha, so we must admit to ourselves that 5th house does nothave to be connected to the Jeevanmuktamsa Devata. You may like one deity,but it is a different one which is giving moksha. In most cases, the deitygiving moksha is realized after tedious worship of ones desired deity. Preferably you should like your Mukti-Devata, so aspire to have the MuktiDevata associated with 5th house.I like Vishnu, and Mercury lords the 5th house in D-20, Mercury is also theMukti-devata in my case. lucky me. Which deity do you like? Best wishes,Visti Larsenvisti _____ Ramesh Gangaramani [ramesh.gangaramani] 17 November 2004 14:19 Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI! Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti,I am tempted to ask about 5H in D20. I have Saturn, Venus in in 5H withrashi drishti of Sun, Moon, Mars and Mercury and graha drishti of Rahu!which deity am I likely to adore?Can this knowledge be used for birth time rectification?Is there a link between Ishta Devta and deity adored? I see Saturn, Venusand Rahu, Mars and Sun involved in both!Kind RegardsRameshVisti Larsen [visti]Wednesday, November 17, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!|Hare Rama Krsna|Dear Rafal, Comments below.Best wishes, Visti Larsenvisti _____ jyotraff [jyotraff] 17 November 2004 05:51 Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI! Dear Visti Ji!Namaskar.1. In Navamsa : when 2H is aspected by venus by rasi drishti it also can give extramaritial relationships ?[Visti] Räçi dristi = strong libido/virility. Graha dristi = sexualdesires/passion.2. My 5H in d-20 is aspected by Moon - this makes me a devotee of Krsna ?[Visti] Yes - Moon or Mercury usually. I use abit more to confirm whetherits devi/krishna, etc. I have Mars and Sun aspecting an unoccupied 5th house- I'm a bhakta of Sürya and Agni.3. Why Jup in 3H in d-9 means that she will be chaste , 9 house means morals of spouse (7+9) , not morals of herself ?[Visti] Sometimes the morals of those you associate with, influence yourmorals/ideals. That's why some people after their spouse cheats on them,they start cheating on their spouse. In this chart, Only planet in trines isMercury. Mercury is neither influenced strongly by Moon (Soma - hispromiscuous father) nor Jupiter (Brhaspati his chaste step-father), so Icannot look at it. Among Moon and Jupiter, Jupiter has rasi dristi on theLagna. I also look at Rähu who also has no connection with the Lagna. Sofinally I decided that she was chaste, as Jupiter has the strongestinfluence on the Lagna.4. In my Vimsamsa (d-20) : i have lord of 5 (devotion) in 10 house (8+3 = energy to make sadhana) it is sign of work in sadhana for devotion ?[Visti] What does it mean in Räçi chart?5. You said that UL with 8 H makes fixed marriage, so UL in 8 means fixed marriage ?[Visti] Nope - not necessarily. If UL is in the 8th house - you feelindebted to your spouse - as if you owe them to be married to them. But if8th lord itself is there, then it may be a fixed marriage.6. When Planet is Vakra in Rasi, it is also Vakra in D-n and the meaning of Vakra stays the same in D-n charts ?[Visti] In my experience - yes.Please tell me when You have enough;)[Visti] Every day when i wake up, I do mantra's to ensure that I can teach,teach, teach. But now I must teach you to think in the right lines, so youcan answer your own questions. otherwise we could spend a lifetime askingand answering questions.with respect,yhs Rafal|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

November 19, 2004

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Vinay, I don’t know if you are right… maybe!

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

Vinay Patwardhan

[patwardhanvinay]

19 November 2004 06:08

visti

Cc: varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| RE: [sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

||Om Ved Vyasay Namah ||

Dear Visti ji,

Pranam. Thanks for correcting the mantra, vert first.

Secondly I'm writing only with reference to Jaimini Maharshi's

Updesa sutra translated by Guruji !! Where he mentions Amatyanucharad can be

treated as 12th from Amk or BK in Chara karka system. But in 1.2.82 we have

seen worship is seen from 6th H from Amk. Hence BK should be acceptable. Where

Guruji gives the translation:-

" The deity the native will adore is seen from the

BK "

I think this gives some linking in Rameshji's discussion,

where we have many planets influencing.

Here I thought for Lata Mangeshkar's chart. She's having

many planets in trines to Navamsa Asc (Lagnamsa) which may show multiple

vocational indications but again Guruji mentions Amk has deciding edge over

other planets. If my logic is not wrong we can use same logic in D20 ,5th H and

if there are many planets influencing on 5th H, Bk can have deciding edge over

other planets!!

Is my thinking is going in right direction? Pls rectify

With Pranam,

Vinay Patwardhan

Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:27:45 +0100

" Visti Larsen " <visti

RE: RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|Hare Rama Krsna|

Dear Vinay, Namasar

The mantra is pronounced ; Om VedaVyasaaya Namah. - now it becomes

Astakshari.

I've never heard nor thought of interpretating the çloka like that - maybe

you are right. What about AmK in Mrs. Mangeskar's chart?

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

visti

_____

Vinay Patwardhan [patwardhanvinay]

18 November 2004 05:23

visti

Cc: varahamihira ;

ramesh.gangaramani

|Sri Varaha| RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] ques tions - to Visti JI!

|| Aum Vedvyasay Namah ||

Dear Visti ji,

I'm following your discussion with Ramesh ji. Here I think we can get help

from 1.4.43 sutra of Jaimini Amatyanucharad Devta Bhakti hi||

I think when there are many planets to influence 5th H (likings) in D20 as

well as Rasi also Then BK will have deciding age over others. Like AmK in

Lata Mangaeshkar's Chart.