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Dear Rosemary,

Try and make my day by explaining what Internal India politics have to do

with a Tsunami that took also more than 80000 Indonesian lives (most

probably Muslims by religion) as well as thousands of others, among them

Americans and European Christians (from Sweden are 2000 missing, Denmark,

Norway, UK, France etc. etc. etc.) and even Israeli (Jewish).

How on earth can this be connected ?

Regards

/Jay Weiss

-

>

> varahamihira , " Rosemary Innes-Jones "

> <rf.innes-jones@x> wrote:

>> OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH

>>

>> Dear Chandrashekher,

>>

>> Thankyou for your comments. I too intuitively understand this event

> to be linked to the persecution of religious leaders. H.H.

> Shankaracharya imprisonment is like imprisoning the Pope, which would

> cause an outrage in the west. The shankaracharya tradition though

> seems to go further than religion , to pure self-knowledge, as my weak

> understanding is so far.

>> Can you say what this spiritual path is seen as in planetary terms?

> Is it Moon and Mercury?

>>

>> Kind regards

>> Rosemary

>>

>> -

>> Chandrashekhar

>> varahamihira

>> Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:12 AM

>> Re: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

> the same horoscopic destiny ?

>>

>> Dear Jay,

>> If I may attempt my hand, the friend of yours has too many

> questions jumbled into one.

>> Let us take them one by one, explaining anything astrologically,

> while attractive and possible serves no purpose after an event is

> already past, barring academic interest.

>> It is obvious, at least astrologically and logically, that all of

> these persons who perished had yogas for death. This is more so, as

> many also survived at the same place and time. For example disaster

> striking a family did not kill all family members, one or two did survive.

>>

>> An astrologer, at least the Vedic one is supposed to answer a

> query and not just go on looking for predictions to be made in

> general. So not having predicted in advance or otherwise has nothing

> to do with veracity of the science. As a matter of fact, if my memory

> serves me right, some astrologers had predicted some unusual things

> happening on that day, including natural disasters. Others like me had

> said that disasters could strike if religious heads are persecuted by

> Kings, when H.H. Shankaracharya was arrested by Govt.It is interesting

> to note that the disaster struck on the day the Junior Pontiff too was

> called for interrogation with an intent to arrest him.

>>

>> Disaster striking on a Christian holiday has not connection with

> astrology. Emotionally it might be alright to think that disaster can

> not strike on Christian holidays, but I have yet to find such a dictum

> in any astrological text.

>>

>> Chandrashekhar.

>>

>> Jay Weiss wrote:

>> Dear Visti,

>>

>> With all due respect that was " an easy way out " ...

>>

>> Warm regards

>> /Jay

>> -

>> Visti Larsen

>> varahamihira

>> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:33 PM

>> RE: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all

> with the same horoscopic destiny ?

>>

>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>>

>> Dear Jay, Namaskar

>>

>> Unfortunately, the only way we can prove ourselves right is by

> collecting ALL the horoscopes of all the people who were affected.

> This is impossible.

>>

>> Btw. Mercury indicates natural disasters and Moon indicates

> danger from water.

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>> Visti Larsen

>>

>> http://srigaruda.com

>>

>> visti@s...

>>

> --------

>>

>> Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...]

>> 28 December 2004 22:20

>> ;

> vedic astrology ; varahamihira

>> |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

> the same horoscopic destiny ?

>>

>> Dear All,

>>

>> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the

> same person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).

>>

>> This is very challanging for many God believers around the

> world and even more for the astrological community.

>>

>> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have

> anything of interest.

>>

>> My reply to him was simple: " I don't know - I have no answer

> to that as it is beyond me "

>>

>> Regards

>> /Jay Weiss

>>

>> ===============Mail==================

>>

>> <jayhw@t...>

>>

>> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

>>

>> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> horoscopic destiny ?

>>

>> Hi Jay,

>>

>> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with

> regard to our " collective destiny " mail exchange, and now this

> horrible Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives

> of people from different countries and nationalities; adults as

> children and babies alike.

>>

>> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> astrologically ?

>>

>> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /

> destiny in their charts ?

>>

>> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was

> no astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of such a

> disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a Christian

> religious holiday.

>>

>> What does God (?) have to say to that ?

>>

>> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense

> once and for all ?

>>

>> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

>>

>> I doubt it!

>>

>> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

>>

>> All the best

>>

>> R.

>>

>> (Jay: name was removed by me)

>>

>> |Om Tat Sat|

>> http://www.varahamihira

>>

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December 31, 2004

OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH

Dear Jay,

How can I make your day, when the answers you want to hear revolve around

the premise things are " not connected " ?

Istly, it is the persecution of ANY religious leaders by governments that is

the fundamental GLOBAL transgression of dharma. This includes all

religions. Internal Indian Politics is not a feature!

The vedic tradition goes further even, than the Hindu religion, and is open

to all seekers of truth and includes all paths.

A Shankaracharya , plays a sacred and penultimate role as a self-realised

teacher in guidance from the Tradition. This is not limited to India.

Dishonour for the symbol of the teacher is Dishonour to the Tradition. Any

irreverance or lack of respect for these Holy ones will have severe

consequences, as the 'teaching' , and way back to truth , becomes more

clouded by surface conjecture of our mind, than revealed knowledge from the

unknown. The light is hidden amongst the plethora of petty ideas and

opinions to judge, to put into nice tidy boxes, and there is resistance to

trust the words of the wise in their fullness. Even our Laws, passed by our

governments in such abundance and in unholy haste, have little connection to

natural or canon law.

Interestingly, this play continues as I find myself so easily drawn to type

my thoughts than go look up the texts! Or as we are on an astrology list,

analyse the chart of the earthquake data you have posted. Thankyou for

that.

I shall write again, soon!!

to close I include a quote from H.H. Shankaracharya Vasudevananda Saraswati

:

" .........The universe manifests through love, is sustained and nourished by

love and ultimately it will merge into love.

Love is knowledge and laws of nature, which work as justice. All forms are

held by law. .......... "

The wise say Laws are discovered, not made. Lets see what we can discover.

Happy New Year

from RosemaryXXXXX

-

" Katharina Hagård-Weiss " <jayhw

Friday, December 31, 2004 3:07 AM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami

>

> Dear Rosemary,

>

> Try and make my day by explaining what Internal India politics have to do

> with a Tsunami that took also more than 80000 Indonesian lives (most

> probably Muslims by religion) as well as thousands of others, among them

> Americans and European Christians (from Sweden are 2000 missing, Denmark,

> Norway, UK, France etc. etc. etc.) and even Israeli (Jewish).

> How on earth can this be connected ?

>

> Regards

> /Jay Weiss

>

> -

> >

> > varahamihira , " Rosemary Innes-Jones "

> > <rf.innes-jones@x> wrote:

> >> OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH

> >>

> >> Dear Chandrashekher,

> >>

> >> Thankyou for your comments. I too intuitively understand this event

> > to be linked to the persecution of religious leaders. H.H.

> > Shankaracharya imprisonment is like imprisoning the Pope, which would

> > cause an outrage in the west. The shankaracharya tradition though

> > seems to go further than religion , to pure self-knowledge, as my weak

> > understanding is so far.

> >> Can you say what this spiritual path is seen as in planetary terms?

> > Is it Moon and Mercury?

> >>

> >> Kind regards

> >> Rosemary

> >>

> >> -

> >> Chandrashekhar

> >> varahamihira

> >> Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:12 AM

> >> Re: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

> > the same horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

> >> Dear Jay,

> >> If I may attempt my hand, the friend of yours has too many

> > questions jumbled into one.

> >> Let us take them one by one, explaining anything astrologically,

> > while attractive and possible serves no purpose after an event is

> > already past, barring academic interest.

> >> It is obvious, at least astrologically and logically, that all of

> > these persons who perished had yogas for death. This is more so, as

> > many also survived at the same place and time. For example disaster

> > striking a family did not kill all family members, one or two did

survive.

> >>

> >> An astrologer, at least the Vedic one is supposed to answer a

> > query and not just go on looking for predictions to be made in

> > general. So not having predicted in advance or otherwise has nothing

> > to do with veracity of the science. As a matter of fact, if my memory

> > serves me right, some astrologers had predicted some unusual things

> > happening on that day, including natural disasters. Others like me had

> > said that disasters could strike if religious heads are persecuted by

> > Kings, when H.H. Shankaracharya was arrested by Govt.It is interesting

> > to note that the disaster struck on the day the Junior Pontiff too was

> > called for interrogation with an intent to arrest him.

> >>

> >> Disaster striking on a Christian holiday has not connection with

> > astrology. Emotionally it might be alright to think that disaster can

> > not strike on Christian holidays, but I have yet to find such a dictum

> > in any astrological text.

> >>

> >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >> Jay Weiss wrote:

> >> Dear Visti,

> >>

> >> With all due respect that was " an easy way out " ...

> >>

> >> Warm regards

> >> /Jay

> >> -

> >> Visti Larsen

> >> varahamihira

> >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:33 PM

> >> RE: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all

> > with the same horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

> >> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >>

> >> Dear Jay, Namaskar

> >>

> >> Unfortunately, the only way we can prove ourselves right is by

> > collecting ALL the horoscopes of all the people who were affected.

> > This is impossible.

> >>

> >> Btw. Mercury indicates natural disasters and Moon indicates

> > danger from water.

> >>

> >> Best wishes,

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen

> >>

> >> http://srigaruda.com

> >>

> >> visti@s...

> >>

>

> --------

> >>

> >> Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...]

> >> 28 December 2004 22:20

> >> ;

> > vedic astrology ; varahamihira

> >> |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

> > the same horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

> >> Dear All,

> >>

> >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the

> > same person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).

> >>

> >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the

> > world and even more for the astrological community.

> >>

> >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have

> > anything of interest.

> >>

> >> My reply to him was simple: " I don't know - I have no answer

> > to that as it is beyond me "

> >>

> >> Regards

> >> /Jay Weiss

> >>

> >> ===============Mail==================

> >>

> >> <jayhw@t...>

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

> >>

> >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> > horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

> >> Hi Jay,

> >>

> >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with

> > regard to our " collective destiny " mail exchange, and now this

> > horrible Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives

> > of people from different countries and nationalities; adults as

> > children and babies alike.

> >>

> >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> > astrologically ?

> >>

> >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /

> > destiny in their charts ?

> >>

> >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was

> > no astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of such a

> > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a Christian

> > religious holiday.

> >>

> >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?

> >>

> >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense

> > once and for all ?

> >>

> >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

> >>

> >> I doubt it!

> >>

> >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

> >>

> >> All the best

> >>

> >> R.

> >>

> >> (Jay: name was removed by me)

> >>

> >> |Om Tat Sat|

> >>

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December 31, 2004

om gurave namah

Dear Rosemary

You made my day at least. There is something about Shiva Tandava that isn't fully understood. Vijayendra Saraswati has a very powerful horoscope...there can be connections but for the ones who seek hard proof all the time we cannot give any..we are human and also believers. So its tough. I find it so hard to explain how the muslims play such a crucial role in Jagannath Puri - they publish the Jagannath Panchang, they look after Jagannath's elephants etc...yet they cannot go into the temple. Is this because they want the bhakta to yearn for the lord.

I have found that those who are far away always yearn to be close but those that are close are always sick of being around and want to go away! Is there something in this. Perhaps Freedom will understand one day...there is this German lady who is being talked about in Puri as a saint. She has just died of Cancer and a 500 or more year old tradition was broken by the Pandits of Jagannath Puri to have her complete Hindu final rites to be performed at Swarga Dvara in Puri. She was never allowed into the temple when she lived in Puri but when she died she was given that honor which even some of us Sasana Brahmana of Jagannath would find a great honor. Why did the great brahmana of Mukti mandapa do this? Why was she being observed so carefully? And there is no doubt that she was among the greatest bhakta of Jagannatha in the last 50 odd years. She had no time to groan about rules and regulations as she truly believed that every minute was to be spent in chanting the Mahamantra...how many of us really believe to that extent...you see going physically into the Jagannath temple is not important , but going to Jagannath after leaving this mortal coil is important.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Rosemary Innes-Jones [rf.innes-jones] Friday, December 31, 2004 5:03 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami

OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAHDear Jay,How can I make your day, when the answers you want to hear revolve aroundthe premise things are "not connected" ?Istly, it is the persecution of ANY religious leaders by governments that isthe fundamental GLOBAL transgression of dharma. This includes allreligions. Internal Indian Politics is not a feature!The vedic tradition goes further even, than the Hindu religion, and is opento all seekers of truth and includes all paths.A Shankaracharya , plays a sacred and penultimate role as a self-realisedteacher in guidance from the Tradition. This is not limited to India.Dishonour for the symbol of the teacher is Dishonour to the Tradition. Anyirreverance or lack of respect for these Holy ones will have severeconsequences, as the 'teaching' , and way back to truth , becomes moreclouded by surface conjecture of our mind, than revealed knowledge from theunknown. The light is hidden amongst the plethora of petty ideas andopinions to judge, to put into nice tidy boxes, and there is resistance totrust the words of the wise in their fullness. Even our Laws, passed by ourgovernments in such abundance and in unholy haste, have little connection tonatural or canon law.Interestingly, this play continues as I find myself so easily drawn to typemy thoughts than go look up the texts! Or as we are on an astrology list,analyse the chart of the earthquake data you have posted. Thankyou forthat.I shall write again, soon!!to close I include a quote from H.H. Shankaracharya Vasudevananda Saraswati:".........The universe manifests through love, is sustained and nourished bylove and ultimately it will merge into love.Love is knowledge and laws of nature, which work as justice. All forms areheld by law. .........."The wise say Laws are discovered, not made. Lets see what we can discover.Happy New Yearfrom RosemaryXXXXX- "Katharina Hagård-Weiss" <jayhw<varahamihira >Friday, December 31, 2004 3:07 AMRe: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami>> Dear Rosemary,>> Try and make my day by explaining what Internal India politics have to do> with a Tsunami that took also more than 80000 Indonesian lives (most> probably Muslims by religion) as well as thousands of others, among them> Americans and European Christians (from Sweden are 2000 missing, Denmark,> Norway, UK, France etc. etc. etc.) and even Israeli (Jewish).> How on earth can this be connected ?>> Regards> /Jay Weiss>> -> >> > varahamihira , "Rosemary Innes-Jones"> > <rf.innes-jones@x> wrote:> >> OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH> >>> >> Dear Chandrashekher,> >>> >> Thankyou for your comments. I too intuitively understand this event> > to be linked to the persecution of religious leaders. H.H.> > Shankaracharya imprisonment is like imprisoning the Pope, which would> > cause an outrage in the west. The shankaracharya tradition though> > seems to go further than religion , to pure self-knowledge, as my weak> > understanding is so far.> >> Can you say what this spiritual path is seen as in planetary terms?> > Is it Moon and Mercury?> >>> >> Kind regards> >> Rosemary> >>> >> - > >> Chandrashekhar> >> varahamihira > >> Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:12 AM> >> Re: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with> > the same horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >> Dear Jay,> >> If I may attempt my hand, the friend of yours has too many> > questions jumbled into one.> >> Let us take them one by one, explaining anything astrologically,> > while attractive and possible serves no purpose after an event is> > already past, barring academic interest.> >> It is obvious, at least astrologically and logically, that all of> > these persons who perished had yogas for death. This is more so, as> > many also survived at the same place and time. For example disaster> > striking a family did not kill all family members, one or two didsurvive.> >>> >> An astrologer, at least the Vedic one is supposed to answer a> > query and not just go on looking for predictions to be made in> > general. So not having predicted in advance or otherwise has nothing> > to do with veracity of the science. As a matter of fact, if my memory> > serves me right, some astrologers had predicted some unusual things> > happening on that day, including natural disasters. Others like me had> > said that disasters could strike if religious heads are persecuted by> > Kings, when H.H. Shankaracharya was arrested by Govt.It is interesting> > to note that the disaster struck on the day the Junior Pontiff too was> > called for interrogation with an intent to arrest him.> >>> >> Disaster striking on a Christian holiday has not connection with> > astrology. Emotionally it might be alright to think that disaster can> > not strike on Christian holidays, but I have yet to find such a dictum> > in any astrological text.> >>> >> Chandrashekhar.> >>> >>> >> Jay Weiss wrote:> >> Dear Visti,> >>> >> With all due respect that was "an easy way out"...> >>> >> Warm regards> >> /Jay> >> - > >> Visti Larsen> >> varahamihira > >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:33 PM> >> RE: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all> > with the same horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >>> >> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >>> >> Dear Jay, Namaskar> >>> >> Unfortunately, the only way we can prove ourselves right is by> > collecting ALL the horoscopes of all the people who were affected.> > This is impossible.> >>> >> Btw. Mercury indicates natural disasters and Moon indicates> > danger from water.> >>> >> Best wishes,> >>> >>> >>> >> Visti Larsen> >>> >> http://srigaruda.com> >>> >> visti@s...> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> --------> >>> >> Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...]> >> 28 December 2004 22:20> >> ;> > vedic astrology ; varahamihira > >> |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with> > the same horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear All,> >>> >>> >>> >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the> > same person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).> >>> >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the> > world and even more for the astrological community.> >>> >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have> > anything of interest.> >>> >>> >>> >> My reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no answer> > to that as it is beyond me"> >>> >> Regards> >> /Jay Weiss> >>> >> ===============Mail==================> >>> >> <jayhw@t...>> >>> >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM> >>> >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same> > horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >>> >> Hi Jay,> >>> >>> >>> >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with> > regard to our "collective destiny" mail exchange, and now this> > horrible Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives> > of people from different countries and nationalities; adults as> > children and babies alike.> >>> >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this> > astrologically ?> >>> >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /> > destiny in their charts ?> >>> >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was> > no astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of such a> > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a Christian> > religious holiday.> >>> >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?> >>> >>> >>> >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense> > once and for all ?> >>> >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?> >>> >> I doubt it!> >>> >>> >>> >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.> >>> >> All the best> >>> >> R.> >>> >> (Jay: name was removed by me)> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> |Om Tat Sat|> >> http://www.varahamihira> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________> >>> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> >> http://www.nod32.com> >>> >>> >> |Om Tat Sat|> >> http://www.varahamihira> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> |Om Tat Sat|> >> http://www.varahamihira> >>> >>> >>> >>>> --------> >> > >> > >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release 12/28/2004> >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>> >> > >> > >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release 12/28/2004> >> >> >> >> >> >> > |Om Tat Sat|> > http://www.varahamihira> >

January 1, 2005

OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

Dear Guruji and list,

History says, one such dissaster taken a place 2000 years back, in Sri Lanka after King Kavantissa tried to kill a Ralised Monk. It was just bed time story for all of us, until last 26th.

Thanks

Karu

Rohan Wickremasinghe (12/30/2004 4:34:13 PM) Circumstances of Vihara Maha Devi and Tsunami tragedy 164 BC – 140 BC period Ancient Sri Lankan King Kalani Tissa had a brother named Uttiya who had a secret relationship with Kalani Tissa’s wife. When Kalani Tissa found out about the relationship, Uttiya ran away and hid among the people. One day Uttiya sent a man dressed as a Buddhist monk hidden among other monks. The man came near the queen and dropped a letter. King heard a slight noise and found the letter. King thought the letter was dropped by one of the Arahath(Realised Monk) Theras who was standing nearby and killed the monk by putting him inside a hot oil caldron. The gods got upset from this heinous crime and ocean started to flow into land. After consultation of the ministers, King Kalani Tissa decided to send his beautiful daughter Vihara Devi (Later she became known as Vihara Maha Devi) in a ship to satisfy the gods. The tale written about Vihara Maha Devi recounts that the princess, the daughter of King Kelinitissa of Maya Rata, had been offered as a sacrifice to the sea-gods in the hope that she would appease their wrath and prevent the seas from swallowing villages. She had been placed in a gilded canoe and released into the sea. The waves drifted her towards Sri Lanka, where villagers in what is thought to be Panama (more precisely, Arugam Bay) had spotted the glinting vessel and alerted their king, Kavantissa. Kavantissa, who was told that a beautiful maiden was in the boat, hurried to the beach but the boat was gone. Legend has it that she had sailed towards the village of Komarigama in Arugam Bay where the king met her. Kavantissa, upon learning that she was Kelanitissa’s daughter, married her on a "magul poruwa" which can still be seen in the vicinity of Magul Maha Viharaya. This historical record of the Mahawamsa indicates the accuracy and correctness of the recorded history of Sihalese. The same area near Arugam Bay in modern Sri Lanka was worst hit by the tsunami tragedy that happened recently. This historical record of Sri Lanka also teaches a good lesson. Specially it gives a message to the leaders of the country on the importance of leading the country in an honorable way full of virtues. Sri Lankan history is full of stories of floods, droughts and other natural calamities happening when the Kings or the Queens who governed this country were weak and were incapable of taking decisions for the wellbeing of the people.

om gurave namah Dear Rosemary

You made my day at least. There is something about Shiva Tandava that isn't fully understood. Vijayendra Saraswati has a very powerful horoscope...there can be connections but for the ones who seek hard proof all the time we cannot give any..we are human and also believers. So its tough. I find it so hard to explain how the muslims play such a crucial role in Jagannath Puri - they publish the Jagannath Panchang, they look after Jagannath's elephants etc...yet they cannot go into the temple. Is this because they want the bhakta to yearn for the lord.

I have found that those who are far away always yearn to be close but those that are close are always sick of being around and want to go away! Is there something in this. Perhaps Freedom will understand one day...there is this German lady who is being talked about in Puri as a saint. She has just died of Cancer and a 500 or more year old tradition was broken by the Pandits of Jagannath Puri to have her complete Hindu final rites to be performed at Swarga Dvara in Puri. She was never allowed into the temple when she lived in Puri but when she died she was given that honor which even some of us Sasana Brahmana of Jagannath would find a great honor. Why did the great brahmana of Mukti mandapa do this? Why was she being observed so carefully? And there is no doubt that she was among the greatest bhakta of Jagannatha in the last 50 odd years. She had no time to groan about rules and regulations as she truly believed that every minute was to be spent in chanting the Mahamantra...how many of us really believe to that extent...you see going physically into the Jagannath temple is not important , but going to Jagannath after leaving this mortal coil is important.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Rosemary Innes-Jones [rf.innes-jones] Friday, December 31, 2004 5:03 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami

OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAHDear Jay,How can I make your day, when the answers you want to hear revolve aroundthe premise things are "not connected" ?Istly, it is the persecution of ANY religious leaders by governments that isthe fundamental GLOBAL transgression of dharma. This includes allreligions. Internal Indian Politics is not a feature!The vedic tradition goes further even, than the Hindu religion, and is opento all seekers of truth and includes all paths.A Shankaracharya , plays a sacred and penultimate role as a self-realisedteacher in guidance from the Tradition. This is not limited to India.Dishonour for the symbol of the teacher is Dishonour to the Tradition. Anyirreverance or lack of respect for these Holy ones will have severeconsequences, as the 'teaching' , and way back to truth , becomes moreclouded by surface conjecture of our mind, than revealed knowledge from theunknown. The light is hidden amongst the plethora of petty ideas andopinions to judge, to put into nice tidy boxes, and there is resistance totrust the words of the wise in their fullness. Even our Laws, passed by ourgovernments in such abundance and in unholy haste, have little connection tonatural or canon law.Interestingly, this play continues as I find myself so easily drawn to typemy thoughts than go look up the texts! Or as we are on an astrology list,analyse the chart of the earthquake data you have posted. Thankyou forthat.I shall write again, soon!!to close I include a quote from H.H. Shankaracharya Vasudevananda Saraswati:".........The universe manifests through love, is sustained and nourished bylove and ultimately it will merge into love.Love is knowledge and laws of nature, which work as justice. All forms areheld by law. .........."The wise say Laws are discovered, not made. Lets see what we can discover.Happy New Yearfrom RosemaryXXXXX- "Katharina Hagård-Weiss" <jayhw<varahamihira >Friday, December 31, 2004 3:07 AMRe: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami>> Dear Rosemary,>> Try and make my day by explaining what Internal India politics have to do> with a Tsunami that took also more than 80000 Indonesian lives (most> probably Muslims by religion) as well as thousands of others, among them> Americans and European Christians (from Sweden are 2000 missing, Denmark,> Norway, UK, France etc. etc. etc.) and even Israeli (Jewish).> How on earth can this be connected ?>> Regards> /Jay Weiss>> -> >> > varahamihira , "Rosemary Innes-Jones"> > <rf.innes-jones@x> wrote:> >> OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH> >>> >> Dear Chandrashekher,> >>> >> Thankyou for your comments. I too intuitively understand this event> > to be linked to the persecution of religious leaders. H.H.> > Shankaracharya imprisonment is like imprisoning the Pope, which would> > cause an outrage in the west. The shankaracharya tradition though> > seems to go further than religion , to pure self-knowledge, as my weak> > understanding is so far.> >> Can you say what this spiritual path is seen as in planetary terms?> > Is it Moon and Mercury?> >>> >> Kind regards> >> Rosemary> >>> >> - > >> Chandrashekhar> >> varahamihira > >> Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:12 AM> >> Re: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with> > the same horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >> Dear Jay,> >> If I may attempt my hand, the friend of yours has too many> > questions jumbled into one.> >> Let us take them one by one, explaining anything astrologically,> > while attractive and possible serves no purpose after an event is> > already past, barring academic interest.> >> It is obvious, at least astrologically and logically, that all of> > these persons who perished had yogas for death. This is more so, as> > many also survived at the same place and time. For example disaster> > striking a family did not kill all family members, one or two didsurvive.> >>> >> An astrologer, at least the Vedic one is supposed to answer a> > query and not just go on looking for predictions to be made in> > general. So not having predicted in advance or otherwise has nothing> > to do with veracity of the science. As a matter of fact, if my memory> > serves me right, some astrologers had predicted some unusual things> > happening on that day, including natural disasters. Others like me had> > said that disasters could strike if religious heads are persecuted by> > Kings, when H.H. Shankaracharya was arrested by Govt.It is interesting> > to note that the disaster struck on the day the Junior Pontiff too was> > called for interrogation with an intent to arrest him.> >>> >> Disaster striking on a Christian holiday has not connection with> > astrology. Emotionally it might be alright to think that disaster can> > not strike on Christian holidays, but I have yet to find such a dictum> > in any astrological text.> >>> >> Chandrashekhar.> >>> >>> >> Jay Weiss wrote:> >> Dear Visti,> >>> >> With all due respect that was "an easy way out"...> >>> >> Warm regards> >> /Jay> >> - > >> Visti Larsen> >> varahamihira > >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:33 PM> >> RE: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all> > with the same horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >>> >> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >>> >> Dear Jay, Namaskar> >>> >> Unfortunately, the only way we can prove ourselves right is by> > collecting ALL the horoscopes of all the people who were affected.> > This is impossible.> >>> >> Btw. Mercury indicates natural disasters and Moon indicates> > danger from water.> >>> >> Best wishes,> >>> >>> >>> >> Visti Larsen> >>> >> http://srigaruda.com> >>> >> visti@s...> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> --------> >>> >> Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...]> >> 28 December 2004 22:20> >> ;> > vedic astrology ; varahamihira > >> |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with> > the same horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >>> >> Dear All,> >>> >>> >>> >> Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the> > same person asked a similar question after the Sep-11th event).> >>> >> This is very challanging for many God believers around the> > world and even more for the astrological community.> >>> >> Please read this short mail below and comment if you have> > anything of interest.> >>> >>> >>> >> My reply to him was simple: "I don't know - I have no answer> > to that as it is beyond me"> >>> >> Regards> >> /Jay Weiss> >>> >> ===============Mail==================> >>> >> <jayhw@t...>> >>> >> Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM> >>> >> Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same> > horoscopic destiny ?> >>> >>> >>> >> Hi Jay,> >>> >>> >>> >> Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with> > regard to our "collective destiny" mail exchange, and now this> > horrible Tsunami in South-East Asia which took more than 60000 lives> > of people from different countries and nationalities; adults as> > children and babies alike.> >>> >> How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this> > astrologically ?> >>> >> Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /> > destiny in their charts ?> >>> >> There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was> > no astrologer in the entire world who could predict and warn of such a> > disaster on December 26, which by the way suppose to be a Christian> > religious holiday.> >>> >> What does God (?) have to say to that ?> >>> >>> >>> >> Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense> > once and for all ?> >>> >> Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?> >>> >> I doubt it!> >>> >>> >>> >> I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.> >>> >> All the best> >>> >> R.> >>> >> (Jay: name was removed by me)> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> |Om Tat Sat|> >> http://www.varahamihira> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> __________ NOD32 1.915 (20041102) Information __________> >>> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> >> http://www.nod32.com> >>> >>> >> |Om Tat Sat|> >> http://www.varahamihira> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> |Om Tat Sat|> >> http://www.varahamihira> >>> >>> >>> >>>> --------> >> > >> > >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release 12/28/2004> >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>> >> > >> > >> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release 12/28/2004> >> >> >> >> >> >> > |Om Tat Sat|> > http://www.varahamihira> >

January 1, 2005

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Karu,

Nice story. It does illustrate the point

that natural calamities can happen whenever righteousness decrease in world.

Possibly this is one of the way god punishes the world and make it realize that,

nothing is hidden before his eyes.

If we realize this, at least we can

resolve to lead a life of righteousness with our full commitment.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Karu

[heen]

Saturday, January 01, 2005

7:21 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha|

Shakaracharya and Tsunami

OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

Dear Guruji and list,

History says, one such dissaster

taken a place 2000 years back, in Sri Lanka after King Kavantissa

tried to kill a Ralised Monk. It was just bed time story for all of us, until

last 26th.

Thanks

Karu

Rohan Wickremasinghe (12/30/2004 4:34:13 PM)

Circumstances

of Vihara Maha Devi and Tsunami tragedy

164 BC – 140 BC period

Ancient Sri Lankan King Kalani Tissa had a brother named Uttiya who had a

secret relationship with Kalani Tissa’s wife. When Kalani Tissa found out

about the relationship, Uttiya ran away and hid among the people. One day

Uttiya sent a man dressed as a Buddhist monk hidden among other monks. The man

came near the queen and dropped a letter. King heard a slight noise and found

the letter. King thought the letter was dropped by one of the Arahath(Realised Monk) Theras

who was standing nearby and killed the monk by putting him inside a hot oil

caldron. The gods got upset from this heinous crime and ocean started to flow

into land.

After consultation of the ministers, King Kalani Tissa decided to send his

beautiful daughter Vihara Devi (Later she became known as Vihara Maha Devi) in

a ship to satisfy the gods. The tale written about Vihara Maha Devi recounts

that the princess, the daughter of King Kelinitissa of Maya Rata, had been

offered as a sacrifice to the sea-gods in the hope that she would appease their

wrath and prevent the seas from swallowing villages. She had been placed in a

gilded canoe and released into the sea. The waves drifted her towards Sri Lanka, where villagers in what is thought to

be Panama (more precisely, Arugam Bay)

had spotted the glinting vessel and alerted their king, Kavantissa. Kavantissa,

who was told that a beautiful maiden was in the boat, hurried to the beach but

the boat was gone. Legend has it that she had sailed towards the village of Komarigama

in Arugam Bay where the king met her. Kavantissa,

upon learning that she was Kelanitissa’s daughter, married her on a

" magul poruwa " which can still be seen in the vicinity of Magul Maha

Viharaya.

This historical record of the Mahawamsa indicates the accuracy and correctness

of the recorded history of Sihalese. The same area near Arugam

Bay in modern Sri Lanka was

worst hit by the tsunami tragedy that happened recently. This historical record

of Sri Lanka

also teaches a good lesson. Specially it gives a message to the leaders of the

country on the importance of leading the country in an honorable way full of

virtues. Sri Lankan history is full of stories of floods, droughts and other

natural calamities happening when the Kings or the Queens

who governed this country were weak and were incapable of taking decisions for

the wellbeing of the people.

om gurave namah

Dear Rosemary

You made my day at least. There is

something about Shiva Tandava that isn't fully understood. Vijayendra Saraswati

has a very powerful horoscope...there can be connections but for the ones who

seek hard proof all the time we cannot give any..we are human and also

believers. So its tough. I find it so hard to explain how the muslims play such

a crucial role in Jagannath Puri - they publish the Jagannath Panchang, they

look after Jagannath's elephants etc...yet they cannot go into the temple. Is

this because they want the bhakta to yearn for the lord.

I have found that those who are far away

always yearn to be close but those that are close are always sick of being

around and want to go away! Is there something in this. Perhaps Freedom will

understand one day...there is this German lady who is being talked about in

Puri as a saint. She has just died of Cancer and a 500 or more year old

tradition was broken by the Pandits of Jagannath Puri to have her complete Hindu

final rites to be performed at Swarga Dvara in Puri. She was never allowed into

the temple when she lived in Puri but when she died she was given that honor

which even some of us Sasana Brahmana of Jagannath would find a great honor.

Why did the great brahmana of Mukti mandapa do this? Why was she being observed

so carefully? And there is no doubt that she was among the greatest bhakta of

Jagannatha in the last 50 odd years. She had no time to groan about rules and

regulations as she truly believed that every minute was to be spent in chanting

the Mahamantra...how many of us really believe to that extent...you see going

physically into the Jagannath temple is not important , but going to Jagannath

after leaving this mortal coil is important.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri

752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Rosemary

Innes-Jones [rf.innes-jones]

Friday, December 31, 2004

5:03 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha|

Shakaracharya and Tsunami

OM BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH

Dear Jay,

How can I make your day, when the answers you want

to hear revolve around

the premise things are " not connected " ?

Istly, it is the persecution of ANY religious

leaders by governments that is

the fundamental GLOBAL transgression of

dharma. This includes all

religions. Internal Indian Politics is not a

feature!

The vedic tradition goes further even, than the

Hindu religion, and is open

to all seekers of truth and includes all paths.

A Shankaracharya , plays a sacred and penultimate

role as a self-realised

teacher in guidance from the Tradition. This is

not limited to India.

Dishonour for the symbol of the teacher is

Dishonour to the Tradition. Any

irreverance or lack of respect for these Holy ones

will have severe

consequences, as the 'teaching' , and way back to

truth , becomes more

clouded by surface conjecture of our mind, than

revealed knowledge from the

unknown. The light is hidden amongst the plethora

of petty ideas and

opinions to judge, to put into nice tidy boxes,

and there is resistance to

trust the words of the wise in their fullness.

Even our Laws, passed by our

governments in such abundance and in unholy haste,

have little connection to

natural or canon law.

Interestingly, this play continues as I find

myself so easily drawn to type

my thoughts than go look up the texts! Or as we

are on an astrology list,

analyse the chart of the earthquake data you

have posted. Thankyou for

that.

I shall write again, soon!!

to close I include a quote from H.H.

Shankaracharya Vasudevananda Saraswati

:

" .........The universe manifests through

love, is sustained and nourished by

love and ultimately it will merge into love.

Love is knowledge and laws of nature, which work

as justice. All forms are

held by law. .......... "

The wise say Laws are discovered, not made. Lets

see what we can discover.

Happy New Year

from RosemaryXXXXX

-

" Katharina Hagård-Weiss "

<jayhw

Friday, December 31, 2004 3:07 AM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami

>

> Dear Rosemary,

>

> Try and make my day by explaining what

Internal India politics have to do

> with a Tsunami that took also more than 80000

Indonesian lives (most

> probably Muslims by religion) as well as

thousands of others, among them

> Americans and European Christians (from Sweden are 2000 missing, Denmark,

> Norway,

UK,

France etc. etc. etc.) and even Israeli (Jewish).

> How on earth can this be connected ?

>

> Regards

> /Jay Weiss

>

> -

> >

> > varahamihira ,

" Rosemary Innes-Jones "

> > <rf.innes-jones@x> wrote:

> >> OM

BRIHASPATAYE NAMAH

> >>

> >> Dear Chandrashekher,

> >>

> >> Thankyou for your comments. I too

intuitively understand this event

> > to be linked to the persecution of

religious leaders. H.H.

> > Shankaracharya imprisonment is like

imprisoning the Pope, which would

> > cause an outrage in the west. The

shankaracharya tradition though

> > seems to go further than religion , to

pure self-knowledge, as my weak

> > understanding is so far.

> >> Can you say what this spiritual path

is seen as in planetary terms?

> > Is it Moon and Mercury?

> >>

> >> Kind regards

> >> Rosemary

> >>

> >> ----- Original Message

-----

> >> Chandrashekhar

> >> varahamihira

> >> Thursday, December

30, 2004 7:12 AM

> >> Re: |Sri

Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

> > the same horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

> >> Dear Jay,

> >> If I may attempt my

hand, the friend of yours has too many

> > questions jumbled into one.

> >> Let us take them one by

one, explaining anything astrologically,

> > while attractive and possible serves no

purpose after an event is

> > already past, barring academic interest.

> >> It is obvious, at least

astrologically and logically, that all of

> > these persons who perished had yogas for

death. This is more so, as

> > many also survived at the same place and

time. For example disaster

> > striking a family did not kill all

family members, one or two did

survive.

> >>

> >> An astrologer, at least

the Vedic one is supposed to answer a

> > query and not just go on looking for

predictions to be made in

> > general. So not having predicted in

advance or otherwise has nothing

> > to do with veracity of the science. As a

matter of fact, if my memory

> > serves me right, some astrologers had

predicted some unusual things

> > happening on that day, including natural

disasters. Others like me had

> > said that disasters could strike if

religious heads are persecuted by

> > Kings, when H.H. Shankaracharya was

arrested by Govt.It is interesting

> > to note that the disaster struck on the

day the Junior Pontiff too was

> > called for interrogation with an intent

to arrest him.

> >>

> >> Disaster striking on a

Christian holiday has not connection with

> > astrology. Emotionally it might be

alright to think that disaster can

> > not strike on Christian holidays, but I

have yet to find such a dictum

> > in any astrological text.

> >>

> >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >> Jay Weiss wrote:

> >> Dear Visti,

> >>

> >> With all due

respect that was " an easy way out " ...

> >>

> >> Warm regards

> >> /Jay

> >>

-

> >>

Visti Larsen

> >>

varahamihira

> >>

Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:33 PM

> >>

RE: |Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all

> > with the same horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >>

Dear Jay, Namaskar

> >>

Unfortunately, the only way we can prove ourselves right is by

> > collecting ALL the horoscopes of all the

people who were affected.

> > This is impossible.

> >>

Btw. Mercury indicates natural disasters and Moon indicates

> > danger from water.

> >>

Best wishes,

> >>

>

>>

Visti Larsen

> >>

>

>>

http://srigaruda.com

> >>

>

>>

visti@s...

> >>

>

--------

> >>

Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...]

> >>

28 December 2004 22:20

> >>

;

> > vedic astrology ; varahamihira

> >>

|Sri Varaha| Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with

> > the same horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

Dear All,

> >>

Today I recieved the following mail from a friend of mine (the

> > same person asked a similar question

after the Sep-11th event).

> >>

This is very challanging for many God believers around the

> > world and even more for the astrological

community.

> >>

Please read this short mail below and comment if you have

> > anything of interest.

> >>

My reply to him was simple: " I don't know - I have no answer

> > to that as it is beyond me "

> >>

Regards

> >>

/Jay Weiss

> >>

> >> ===============Mail==================

> >>

<jayhw@t...>

> >>

Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:12 PM

> >>

Over 60000 dead in Tsunami - all with the same

> > horoscopic destiny ?

> >>

Hi Jay,

> >>

Didn't rest my mind since the September 11th disaster with

> > regard to our " collective

destiny " mail exchange, and now this

> > horrible Tsunami in South-East

Asia which took more than 60000 lives

> > of people from different countries and

nationalities; adults as

> > children and babies alike.

> >>

How can you or any of your astrologer friends explain this

> > astrologically ?

> >>

Did all those individuals have the same death sentence /

> > destiny in their charts ?

> >>

There is no way astrology can explain that just as there was

> > no astrologer in the entire world who

could predict and warn of such a

> > disaster on December 26, which by the

way suppose to be a Christian

> > religious holiday.

> >>

What does God (?) have to say to that ?

> >>

Isn't it about time to discard all the astrological nonsense

> > once and for all ?

> >>

Can you produce a sound logical explanation this time ?

> >>

I doubt it!

> >>

I hope my harsh words will not affect our friendship.

> >>

All the best

> >>

R.

> >>

(Jay: name was removed by me)

> >>

|Om Tat Sat|

> >>

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> >>

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> >> http://www.nod32.com

> >>

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> >>

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> >>

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February 6, 2005

OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

Dear Guruji,

One record says it was 383 Buddha Varsha. Now 2548. So it must be 2165 years back. Another record says 2 nd cetury BC. So roughly, 100-200 BC. Please see below, some wall pictures.

Thanks

Karu

-

Karu

varahamihira

Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:20 AM

Re: |Sri Varaha| Shakaracharya and Tsunami

OM NAMO NARAYANAYA

Dear Guruji and list,

History says, one such dissaster taken a place 2000 years back, in Sri Lanka after King Kavantissa tried to kill a Ralised Monk. It was just bed time story for all of us, until last 26th.

Thanks

Karu

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@kw~vw~ gm| nQym| gm| yt krmQn~ mRhRq g#lWm

@mv#nQ mRhRq @g`dg#lWmk~ sQqEvnR@y~ s`gr pw~@l~ xS km|pnyk~, ymhl~ vQq`rNyk~ (gQnQk[E pQpQrWmk~) @h`~ s`gry wOLt vQX`l ul~k`p`wyk~ kd` v#tW@mn~ htgn~n` vQX`l rL phr @h~wO (AT) vnQ (DOT) mRl~ k`lWnv @mm bQhQsRnR rL phr, xS km|pn mRhRqE wrAg nmQn~ h#[Qn~vRvq vr\wm`n@y~ pYclQwv a#w~@w~ "vr`yk n#@gn rL" yn~n ar\}vw~ vn "sRn`mQ" yn jpn~ vcn (AT) ykQ (DOT)

@mvr XYW lAk`vt blp$ mRhRq @g`d g#lWm s[h` @h~wO vR@y~ in~qEnWsQy`@v| sRm`wY` mRhRqE kl`p@y~ htgw~ vQX`l xSmQkm|p`vkQ. @k@s~ @vww~ ap@g~ s`hQw & my mRl`XY vQms` bln kl~hQ @my XYW lAk`vt mhw~ vQpw~ @gn qEn~ mRl~m mRhRq @g`dg#lWm y#yQ s[hn~ k@L`w~ ey nQv#rFqQ @n`@v|. kYQ. pR, 2 vn sQyv@s~qW k#LNQwQs~s rj qvs sQqEvW a#wQ vQh`r mh` @q~vQy@g~ kw` pRvw h` b#[ENR mRhRq @g`dg#lWm ap@g~ iwQh`sy wOL v`r\w`gw mRl~m mRhRq @g`dg#lWmyQ. mWt vsr 2000 kt @pr ihwqW sQqEvR em v & snyt @h~wOv @ls mh`vAXy qk~vnR@y~ k#lNQwQs~s rjR, rhwn~ vhn~@s~ nmk~ mr` mRhRqt q#mWmyQ. e@hw~ It psRk`lWn k^wWn~ vn }RpvAXy, rsv`hQNQy, sq~{r\m`lAk`ry h` kdyQm| @p`w~vl s[hn~ kr a#w~@w~ k#lNQwQs~s rjR, uNR @wl~ kt`rmk l` rhwn~ vhn~@s~ nmk~ mr#mRvt pw~ kL nQs` @mm vQpw sQqEvR bvyQ.

bQYw`n & @k_wOk`g`r@y~ a#wQ "lk~vWqQy" nm| kdyQm| @p`w~ e~ bv s[hn~ kr a#w~@w~ @m@s~y.

"..... k#lNQwQs~s nm| rj nQvrq @wr @k@nkOn~ vhn~@s~ @wl~ kt`ryk l` hRnR @k`t qm` m#r$ @hyQn~ @q~vw`vn~ @s`~k@yn~ rjRt kQpW smRqYy uw~p`wQk @k`t @mrjR h` smM @m`hR@g~ r`-jyw~ nsm|hyQ kQy` @qvQyn~@g~ a`nRx`v@yn~ mRhRq qQy uwOrvmQn~ @l`v nsn~nt ptn~ gw~h."

("lk~vWqQy kdyQm| @p`w" kdyQm| @p`w~ vQmr\Xny a@b|vr\{n 217 pQt)

@m@ls em sQqEvWm @q~v @k`~pyk~ nQs` sQqEvRvk~ @ls s`hQw & my mRl`XYyn~hQ s[hn~ vRvq mWt vsr kQhQpykt ihwqW s`gr pr\@y~;N @n_k`vk~ mgQn~ XYWlAk`vt gQnQ@k`N @qsQn~ s`gry wOL vR kOd` gQnQk[E kWpyk~ h[En`gw h#kQvR bv v`r\w` vR@yn~ a#w#m| vQt em s`gr gQnQ k[Evl vQq`rNyk~ @h`~ s`gry wOL htgw~ xS km|pnyk~ It @h~wOvn~nt a#wQy.

@mm @ewQh`sQk v & sny vQs~wr @k@rn wn~hQ, vQvQ{ gYn~}yn~hQ ey h[En~v` a#wQ a`k`ry pQLQb[vq @mhQqW vQms` b#lWm pY@y`~jnvw~ @v| y#yQ sQ@w~. e~ anRv nQqsRn~ kWpyk~ @m@s~ upRt` q#k~vQy h#kQy.

"mRhR@qn~ yt k@L~y" (mh`vAXy)

"mRq uw~p`wQk @k`t.... gln~t ptn~ gw~h" (sQAhl }RpvAXy)

"mRhRq uwOr vn~n`vR...." (kdyQm| @p`w)

"smRqYy uw~p`wQk @k`t... mRhRq qQy uwOrvmQn~...." (lk~vWqQy kdyQm| @p`w)

mRq @g`d gln~d vn~n`h" (r`j`vlQy)

@mm vQs~wr awrQn~ }RpvAX@yhQ h` lk~vWqQy kdyQm| @p`@whQ s[hn~ "mRhRq·smRqYy uw~p`wQk@k`t g#lWm" yn~@nhQ mRhRq g#lWm yn~nt vd` k#LQBQlQ shQw @h`~ kON`tR shQw bvk~ g#b|vW wQ@b|. ev#nQ q#dQ kON`tR shQw rLk~ ynR s`gry wOL sQqEvR km|pnyk pYwQPlykQ.

mRhRq @g`d g#lW@mn~ rt @b|r`g#nWm s[h` k#lNQwQs~s rjR sQy qR kOmrQy mRhRqt bQlQqEn~ bv ap@g~ vAX k}`vn~hQ s[hn~ kr a#w. e~ bv sQAhl }RpvAX@yhQ s[hn~ vnR@y~ @m@s~y.

"e @v|@lhQ k#lNQwQs~s rj wm`@g~ vAX@yhQ upn~ vQ@X~; r$ a#wQ @q~vQ nm| wm qQyNQy @qvMnk~ @s~ srs` s#lk hQ[Ev` bQ@s`vRn~ nQy`vt s#L akOr# lQyv` mRqE qQyt h#rpWy..."

anwOr#v nQr#pqYQwv r#hRNR rtt @g`d bt a$ k`vn~wQs~s rjR sQy ag @m@hsQy bvt pw~ kr gw~ bvw~ XYW lAk`v ek~@s~sw~ kL qEtR g#mRNR v#nQ vWr rj qr#vn~ bQhQ kL uq`r m`w`vk~ vR bvw~ ap@g~ vAX k}`vn~hQ vQcQwY @ls vQs~wr @k`t a#w. @mm mRhRq @g`d g#lWm pQLQb[v, mh` vAX@yhQ s[hn~ vnR@y~ iw` @ktQ vQs~wrykQ. r`j`vlQy h` kdyQm| @p`w~vl emgQn~ sQqEvR vQpw~ a#wOUv qWr\G vQs~wr qk~v` a#w. @k@s~ @vww~ em vQs~wr ekQ@nkt pth#nQ a`k`ryt qk~v` a#wQ bvq @mhQl` vQ@X~;@yn~ s[hn~ kL yRwOy. enmRqE @mm vQs~wr anRv @hLQ vnR@y~ vQX`l v & snyk~ bv nm| pYw & k~;y.

bQYw`n & @k_wOk`g`r@y~ a#wQ "lk~vWqQy" nm| kdyQm| @p`@whQ em v & sny vQs~wr @k@rnR@y~ @m@s~y ".... @q~vw`@v`~ @s`~k@yn~ rjRt kQpW smRqYy uw~p`wQk @k`t @mrjR h` smM @m`hR@g~ r`-jyw~ nsm|hyQ kQy` @qvQyn~@g a`nRx`v@yn~ mRRhRqE qQy uwOr#vmQn~ @l`v nsn~nt ptn~ gw~h. eklt lk~qQvt pQrQv#r$ kOd` qQvyQn~ @v`lQn~ nvyk~ h` mRql~ rtvlQn~ vQsQ nvyk~ h` a#wOUv gn~ pn~wQs~ qhs~ pn~;Qy hrwk~ h` mn` ptRnR gA v#vR, amRNR @kw~vw~ rn~r#vA a`kr h` ap`q qQp`q cwOp~p`q bhRp~p`q j`wWn~ h` @b`~{Q @@cw & pYwQm` g^h sAG`r`v`qW sQyl~lm mRhRqE pw~ vRh. eklt k#lNQy mRhRqt sw~ sQyyk~ gv|@vk @mklt gvRvk~ wb` sQyl~lm mRhRqt gQlE (AT) ny (DOT) " (kdyQm| @p`w~ vQmr\Xny - 217 pQt)

ap@g~ wvw~ kdyQm| @p`wk s[hn~ vnR@y~ mWt h`w~psQn~m @vnw~ vQs~wrykQ. e~ @m@s~y. "mRhRq uwOr# vn~n`vR m`y` rtQn~ @b`@h` w#n~ h` r#hRNR rtQn~ k`lk~ h` a#wOLw~ @k`t mRhRqE qQy uwOr#vn~n`vR sQAhl qWp@yn~ ek~wr` rtk~ mRl~ kQrQgl ptn~ ek~ i@mk~ u_sQk`n~q nm| kd im| pr\vw@yn~ mw~@w qkONR qQg~ x`g@yhQ ptRnRgm| qhskQn~ qhskQn~ mRU vR @hyQn~ mRU sQAhl rt h#r @n`kQyn lq wOn~sQy h#tk~ qQvyQn~ h` pRUlQn~ sgv|vk~ h` qQgQn~ pns~ gv|vk~ h` mRhRq gQU#@n~y..." (kdyQm| @p`w~ vQmr\Xny - 189 pQt)

r`j`vlQ kwOvry` @mm sQq~{Qy vQs~wr kr a#w~@w~ y@}`k~w gYn~} @q@khQm vQs~wrvlt vd` @vns~ ayRrkQnQ. em vQs~wryt anRv XYW lAk`@v| bthQr h` vyB qQg @vrLbd pY@q~Xyt sQqEvR h`nQy @m@s~y.

"eq`t mRq k#lNQyt sw~ gv|vk~ pmNy q#ngw yRwOy. lkt ark~ gw~ @qvQ@y` kQpW mRq gln~d vn~n`h. q~v`pr yRg@y~qW r`vN`@g~ a{r\m@yn~ @pr p`@n~ wOd @s~ @m| wQbRN` vR mn~n`rmQn~ epQt wOw~wOkOdQyt awrwOr r`vN`@g~ @k`~tQtyw~, m`lQk` pn~ vQs~sw~, vWqQ s`r lk~;yw~ mRqt gQlW gQy`h. q#n~ @m| k#lNQwQs~s rjR av{Qyt mRqt gQlENR gm| lk~;yk~ ptRnRgm| h` nvsQy h#w~w$vk~ @kvRln~@g~ gm| h` s`rsQy s#w~w$vk~ mRwO kQmQ[Qn` gm| h` lAk`vt adRw~wO @qsQn~ e@k`Lsk~ mhmRqt gQlW gQy`h. mn~n`rm iwQrQv wQbR@N~y. ptRnRgm|vlQn~ ktRpQtQ m`qm|@p~ iwQQrQv wQbR@N~y.." (r`j`vlQy e~. vW. sRrvWr (sAs~) 170 sQt)

psRgQy mRhRq @g`d g#lW@m|qW ey n#rBWmt gQy @b`@h`~ pQrQs~q anwOrt lk~vR bv asn~nt l#bRNQ. mWt vsr 2000 kt pmN ihwqW k#lNQwQs~s rjRq @mv#nQm irNmkt @g`qEr#vW a#wQ bv ap@g~ s`hQw & y mRl`XYvlQn~ p#h#qQlQ@v|. sQy qR kOmrQy mRhRqt bQlQ qEn~ k#LNQwQs~s rjR, mRhRq @g`dg#lWm n#rBWmt @g`s~ sQtQyqW rL phrt hsRvW mQy y$m r`j`vlW kwOvry` awQX@y`~k~wQ@yn~ yRwOv vQs~wr krnR@y~ @m@s~y.

"... mRqt or#v a#r k#lNQwQs~s rj mRq glnv` bln~d a#wO pQtt n#gW gQy`h. mRqt ark~ gw~ @qvQ@y` klkQrW e~ a#wO gl~v` e~ rj avQcQ mh` nrk@yhQ gQnQq#lQn~ @vUv`k~ @mn~ qQy jlQn~ @vl` vs`@gn @l`~kvl qQynsn w#nt @g`s~ vn~ s[ e~ rj nrk@yhQ v#tW vq vQ[Qn`h." (r`j`vlQy 271 pQt)

s`hQw & my mRl`XYyn~hQ s[hn~ @mm @w`rwOr# @b`@h`myk~v a}QX@y`~k~wWn~@gn~ ghN vRvq s~vx`vQk v & snyk~ sm|bn~{ ap@g~ p#rNQm v`r\w` @ls agy kL yRwO@v|. gAvwOr g#lW@mn~ v#nQ avs~}`vk~ sm|bn~{@yn~ vw~mn~ sm`j@y~ @b`@h`~ @qnkOt aw~q#kWm| wQbRNq mRhRq @g`d g#lW@mn~ sQqEvn vQn`Xy pQLQb[v psRgQy qQn em sQq~{Qyt mRhRN @qn @wk~m XYW l`AkQk apt aw~q#kWmk~ @n`wQbRNQ. e@hw~ ev#n~nk a#wQ bQhQsRNR bv h` vQn`Xk`rW bv k#LNQwQs~s rj qvs mRhRq @g`d g#lWm sm|bn~{@yn~ ap@g~ p#rFNQ @l~KkyQn~ mn`v v`r\w`gw @k`t wQbRNR bv ihw s[hn~ @w`rwOr#vlQn~ sn`} @v|. XYW lAk`v xS km|pn h` gQnQk[E (ymhl~) shQw kl`pvlQn~ a$w~v wQbWm pmNkQn~m ap em uvqEr#vlQn~ mQqE@N~ y yn mw@yhQ kQsQ vQ@tkw~ el~b @n`sQtQy yRwO yn~n em v`r\w`vlQn~ h` psRgQy qQn sQqEvR v & sn@yn~ mn`v psk~ @k`t @qyQ.

ap xS km|pn kl`p@yn~ a$w~v sQtQyq mhw~ vQpw~ @gnqEn~ xSmQkm|p`vkt mWt vsr 350 kt pmN ihwqW XYW lAk`v mRhRN qW a#wQ bvq @mhQl` vQ@X~;@yn~ s[hn~ kL yRwO@v|. 1615 a@p~Yl~ 14 v#nQ qQn sQqEvW a#wQ em qr#NR xSmQkm|p`v pQLQb[v p#rFNQ p^wOgWsQ v`r\w`vk~ a#sR@rn~ @p`~l~ I. pWrQs~ mhw` vQs~wr krnR@y~ @m@s~y.

eqQn r`wYQ 7 t sQqEvR em xSmQkm|p`v nQs` @sl@vn nQv`svlQn~ eLQyt b#sgw~ jny` vWqQ qQ@g~ w#n w#n qQvyn~nt ptn~ gw~h. @p@L`v mwOpQt vQX`l sQqEr# a#wQvW e~v`@yn~ @gn~qgm| mQXY qEm`ryk~ pQtvn~nt ptn~ gnW. ngr@y~ bthQr pY`k`ry h` ek~ yRq atQt`lyk~ (i~Qesqb- mRUmnQn~m kd` v#tRNQ. Xk~wQmw~v ehQ p#v#wQ gl~ p`lmk~q vQn`Xyt pw~vQy. nQv`s 200 k~ mRUmnQn~m vQn`X vQy. wOv`lkr#vn~ h` a`b`{Qw vRvn~ h#r @mm xSmQkm|p`v nQs` 2000 kt v#dQ pQrQsk~ mrNyt pw~vW wQ@b|.

e@s~m @k`n~t@l~ pY@q~X@y~ pvw~n` jnpYv`qykt anRv ek~wr` kn~qk~ aslQn~ @br vyn~nkO gmnk~ ynvQt em kn~q mRqE@nn~ rw~rn~ @k`wk~ mwOvW awOr#qn~vW wQ@b|. @mm a`X~cr\ytw~ sQq~{Qy wOn~ vrk~m sQqEvW a#wQ awr @br vyn~n` sQy @bry vy` @my mRU gmtm qn~v` wQ@b|. @m@ls rn~ @k`w~ wOnk~ mwOvR kn~q @k`w~wOnR@g`d nm| vWy. avt pY@q~Xy @k`w~m@l~ nm| vWl.

@my hR@qk~ jnpYv`qyk~ vRvw~ @m@ls rn~ @k`w~ @lsQn~ k[E mRqE@nn~ mwO vR@y~ kOmk~q? em @k`w~ h` @k`w~wOnR@g`d k[E mRqE@n~ a#wQ a`v`t awrFhQ sb[w`v kOmk~q? yn kr#NR sm|bn~{@yn~ vQvQ{ aqhs~ iqQrQpw~vW wQ@b|. a#w@mk~ @mm sQqEvWm ymhl~ vQqErNyktq sm krwQ. @k@s~ @vww~ @mv#nQ q$ sm|bn~{@yn~ wvqErtw~ pr\@y~;N sQqE kL yRwOv a#w.

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Rohan Wickremasinghe (12/30/2004 4:34:13 PM) Circumstances of Vihara Maha Devi and Tsunami tragedy 164 BC – 140 BC period Ancient Sri Lankan King Kalani Tissa had a brother named Uttiya who had a secret relationship with Kalani Tissa’s wife. When Kalani Tissa found out about the relationship, Uttiya ran away and hid among the people. One day Uttiya sent a man dressed as a Buddhist monk hidden among other monks. The man came near the queen and dropped a letter. King heard a slight noise and found the letter. King thought the letter was dropped by one of the Arahath(Realised Monk) Theras who was standing nearby and killed the monk by putting him inside a hot oil caldron. The gods got upset from this heinous crime and ocean started to flow into land. After consultation of the ministers, King Kalani Tissa decided to send his beautiful daughter Vihara Devi (Later she became known as Vihara Maha Devi) in a ship to satisfy the gods. The tale written about Vihara Maha Devi recounts that the princess, the daughter of King Kelinitissa of Maya Rata, had been offered as a sacrifice to the sea-gods in the hope that she would appease their wrath and prevent the seas from swallowing villages. She had been placed in a gilded canoe and released into the sea. The waves drifted her towards Sri Lanka, where villagers in what is thought to be Panama (more precisely, Arugam Bay) had spotted the glinting vessel and alerted their king, Kavantissa. Kavantissa, who was told that a beautiful maiden was in the boat, hurried to the beach but the boat was gone. Legend has it that she had sailed towards the village of Komarigama in Arugam Bay where the king met her. Kavantissa, upon learning that she was Kelanitissa’s daughter, married her on a "magul poruwa" which can still be seen in the vicinity of Magul Maha Viharaya. This historical record of the Mahawamsa indicates the accuracy and correctness of the recorded history of Sihalese. The same area near Arugam Bay in modern Sri Lanka was worst hit by the tsunami tragedy that happened recently. This historical record of Sri Lanka also teaches a good lesson. Specially it gives a message to the leaders of the country on the importance of leading the country in an honorable way full of virtues. Sri Lankan history is full of stories of floods, droughts and other natural calamities happening when the Kings or the Queens who governed this country were weak and were incapable of taking decisions for the wellbeing of the people.

om gurave namah Dear Rosemary

You made my day at least. There is something about Shiva Tandava that isn't fully understood. Vijayendra Saraswati has a very powerful horoscope...there can be connections but for the ones who seek hard proof all the time we cannot give any..we are human and also believers. So its tough. I find it so hard to explain how the muslims play such a crucial role in Jagannath Puri - they publish the Jagannath Panchang, they look after Jagannath's elephants etc...yet they cannot go into the temple. Is this because they want the bhakta to yearn for the lord.

I have found that those who are far away always yearn to be close but those that are close are always sick of being around and want to go away! Is there something in this. Perhaps Freedom will understand one day...there is this German lady who is being talked about in Puri as a saint. She has just died of Cancer and a 500 or more year old tradition was broken by the Pandits of Jagannath Puri to have her complete Hindu final rites to be performed at Swarga Dvara in Puri. She was never allowed into the temple when she lived in Puri but when she died she was given that honor which even some of us Sasana Brahmana of Jagannath would find a great honor. Why did the great brahmana of Mukti mandapa do this? Why was she being observed so carefully? And there is no doubt that she was among the greatest bhakta of Jagannatha in the last 50 odd years. She had no time to groan about rules and regulations as she truly believed that every minute was to be spent in chanting the Mahamantra...how many of us really believe to that extent...you see going physically into the Jagannath temple is not important , but going to Jagannath after leaving this mortal coil is important.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath