#2 ChandraShekhar ji -----why venus is exalted in Enemy's Sign-------- Upanayana

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Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste Ramanarayan Ji and Members,

 

That is a very good explanation on why Venus is exalted in

Enemy's Sign.

 

Let me add add few simple words on my understanding and request

you to correct me if I am wrong please.

 

Meena is the feet of Lord Maha Vishnu, where my Mother Mahalakshmi

is Exalted. Meena is the feet of Vira Swaroopa-hence the planet

Venus is exalted in Meena.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

 

varahamihira , rama narayanan

<sree88ganesha> wrote:

>

> SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM

>

> AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

>

> Dear Sanjay , Paji, Amol mandar & others,

>

> Meena is the 12th house of the kalapurusha. Meena is the swakshetra

of Guru. Guru represents the 'dhi' sakthi'. When the 'dhi sakthi'

gets that illumination that inorder to attain the sahaja state (the

original state/swakshetra effect) the only way is to surrender to the

holy feet of the Lord, Guru induces the jiva to offer himself

(sacrifice/mahabali - 12th house principle - yajna) with a plea to

the Lord that He may place his feet on the head. The moment the Lord

responds and blesses the native with pada sparsha (TOUCH OF THE HOLY

FEET) the Kundalini sakthi(venus) raises with the speed of lightening

and places herself in the sahasrara dala padma so as to reach to

paramapada(holiest of holiest shrines - moksha pada - ketu has his

moolatrikona here in Meena).

>

> What does this mean? So long as the jiva is groping in darkness

and is bahir mukha(showing the back to the lord - akin to

retrogression of Guru - Rahu) the drive(3rd house effect) is

beautifully dominated by Maya(Venus). The moment the direction is

changed by way of investiture( left to right - thereby making the

antizodiacal rahu zodiacal - upavitam - 9th house - Guru's moola

trikona - dhanur - Ketu is exalted - ) and the jiva is made to

present himself(herself) before the Lord(upanayana means

presenting/leading to ) it is said to be the second birth on account

of changes in ayana/directions and that Maya is extremely pleased

(exaltation of venus in Meena) and showers upon her choicest blessings

(siddhis) and crowns with 1000 petalled lotus.

>

> It is said though the lotus is born out of jala tatwa but opens up

only on seing the Sun(agni). The materially soaked jiva opens up only

on obtaining that illumination to sacrifice(the dharma of nara is to

sacrifice - the opposite quality of desire/rahu). The 15 degrees

starting from Meena to that 15 degrees in Mesha is the Hora belonging

to Sun. Sun/Indra is the presiding deity of the ceremony Upanayana.

Each ceremony has a presiding deity(eg.garbhadana is presided over by

Brahma).

>

> Investiture/upanayana helps in the change of ayana of the jiva.

This helps in the proper understanding of Maya. This proper

understanding of Maya is what is known as exaltation of Venus in

Meena. In layman's parlance the directional changes are always

considered as inimical. Hence it is felt that Venus is exalted in

his enemy's camp.

>

> Amongst all the other factors the lagna(seat of intelligence) and

Sun are to be given special focus while fixing up the Muhurtha for

Upanayana.

>

> With respects,

>

> Astrologically yours,

>

> p.s.ramanarayanan.

>

>

>

> Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46> wrote: Dear Nitin,

> Theoretically, it would be brightest in particular degrees with

reference to being in other Rasi at identical degrees/ time of a day

in same ritu.

> I would say that the planet would be more luminous in his

exaltation Rasi and getting gradually less so as it approaches its

debilitation point. This is what was meant by B. Surya Narainrao. So

as Me. Rao has said one who has patience to see this over period of

time will be in a position to state on what you have asked,

authoritatively. Many dispute Mr. Rao's statement. I prefer to think

that what he said was right.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Nitin wrote:

> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

>

> Dear Chandrashekahar Ji and List Members, Namaskaar.

>

> This has been an insightful post, and thank you for sharing this

with us.

>

> I have been reflecting on one thing, though...

> (I do not have the said text with me at hand. Perhaps more is

revealed

> there, and I will also look into it when I get a chance.)

>

> Would the Sun in Aries (or any other said planet in a classified

state

> of exaltation / debilitation), in the appropriate degree, be most

> luminous during:

>

> Sunrise

> Mid-day

> Sunset

> Midnight

> ....or at other times?

>

> May the Gurus continue to guide us.

>

> Best wishes and warm regards,

> Nitin.

>

> || Namah Shivaaya ||

>

>

>

> vedic astrology , " tarun " <tarun_vst>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear ChandraShekhar ji,

> >

> > Thanks for the information provided by you, as the reason u

suggested

> > is quite astronomical to understand.

> >

> > If you dont mind to tell. are there any book available on

internet

> > that can be downoloaded to acuire more knowledge.

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Tarun Aggarwal

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology , Chandrashekhar

> > <chandrashekhar46> wrote:

> > > Dear tarun,

> > > B. Suryanarain Rao, Grandfather of Dr. B.V. Raman has said in

his

> > > commentary on Sarvartha Chintamani that these are the Rasis in

> > which the

> > > planets appear the brightest at the degrees indicated as

Paramoccha.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > tarun wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hello nitin..

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the matter provided by you.

> > > > I had even gone through the BPHS, but i am in need of a

scientific

> > > > reason for the same. i believe in the GURU tag given to

planets

> > but i

> > > > am in search of a cientific reason for the same

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " Nitin "

<astronitin>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Tarun and List Members, Namaskaar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding.

> > > > >

> > > > > ===============================

> > > > >

> > > > > BPHS (English Translation):

> > > > > Ch. 3. Grah Characters and Description

> > > > > 49-50. Exaltation and Debilitation. For the seven Grahas,

from

> > Surya

> > > > > to Shani on, the exaltation Rashis are, respectively, Mesh,

> > > > Vrishabh,

> > > > > Makar, Kanya, Kark, Meen and Tula. The deepest exaltation

> > degrees

> > > > are,

> > > > > respectively, 10, 3, 28, 15, 5, 27 and 20 in those Rashis.

And

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > seventh Rashi from the said exaltation Rashi each Grah has

its

> > own

> > > > > debilitation. The same degrees of deep exaltation apply to

deep

> > > > fall.

> > > > > ===============================

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is one interpretation:

> > > > >

> > > > > Deva Guru Brihaspati (Jupiter) as well as Asura Guru

> > ShukraCharya

> > > > > (Venus) have both been given the status of Gurus, though

> > adhering to

> > > > > different philosophies.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hence, when Venus is invited to the House of the Maharishis

> > > > (Pisces),

> > > > > it is in a state of joy...

> > > > >

> > > > > May the Gurus continue to guide us.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > > > > Nitin.

> > > > >

> > > > > || Namah Shivaaya ||

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ===============================

> > > > > hello to all members.

> > > > >

> > > > > i have read that jupiter is enemy of venus and then even in

meen

> > > > > rashi it is exalted..why this is so..and this also with few

> > other

> > > > > planets alos.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kindly suggest

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Friends Enemies Neutrals

> > > > > The Sun Mon, Mar,Jup Ven, Sat Mer

> > > > > The Moon Sun, Mer -- Mars, Jup,Ven, Sat

> > > > > Mars Sun, Mon, Jup Mer Ven, Sat

> > > > > Mercury Sun, Ven Mon Mars, Jup, Sat

> > > > > Jupiter Sun, Mon, Mar Mer, Ven Sat

> > > > > Venus Mer, Sat Sun, Mon Mars, Jup

> > > > > Saturn Mer, Ven Sun, Mon,Mar Jup

> > > > >

> > > > > tarun agarwal

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Group info: vedic-

astrology/info.html

> > > >

> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> >

> > > >

> > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > >

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