Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dear Sanjay ji Namaste I tried to follow many of the parameters with the muhurta chart. If the Mithuna lagna is rejected then in the Vrishabha lagna Moon goes to 8th house and Ju occupies 5th. In Karka lagna(starts at 10.55 am) Moon and Mars occupy 6th and 8th with Ju in 3rd. The karka lagna is till 1.10 pm. In that case in the Karka lagna Upanayanam is not possible and after that it is not possible. Vrishabha lagna starts at 6.44 and last till 8.40. Before 8.40 and after 10.55 Upanayanam is not possible. So we are left with only Mithuna lagna where in atleast 6th,8th,5th are empty and Ju,Me,Mo occupy kendra. So on that day I found Mithuna lagna muhurta as the best one. Only problem I see is Shani in Lagna as lord of 8th. That is what I asked remedy for that. But as you have rejected it as Absurd it seems that it is a big problem. If Mithuna lagna is as well rejected we are lefet with no option and may require to change the date which may not be possible. I am sending the data of my sons. Please guide me to arrive a suitable muhurta for the upanayanam. Chi. Amol 13-Nov-1995 10:22 AM 21N11 81E20(Dhana Lagna) Chi. Mandar 17-Nov-1997 13:59 21N09 79E06(Kumbha Lagna) Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > Dear Prabodh > Comments are given below - > Best Wishes > Sanjay Rath > Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org > SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > > | > |Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > |Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:27 PM > |varahamihira > ||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > | > | > | > |Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste > | > |Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply > |all together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required. > | > |There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much > |as possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your > |information added I have decided to follow these guidelines. > |1) get the benefics in the kendras > Rath: How can you do this? All may not be. What is important is your Veda. > > |2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu > |service oriented which is not bad in todays standards. > Rath: No Saturn shold not be in Kendra for the Gayatri mantra. > > |3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed. > Rath: Guru has to be in a Kendra without fail and no planets in the 5th > house else the Dwija will not recite the mantra regularly. > > |4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty. > Rath: Only 5th and 8th houses have to be empty. Benefic Mercury can be in > the 8th but this is best avoided. > > |5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self. > Rath: Why is vargottama Moon bad? Think for yourself. > > |6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic. > Rath: What is benefic? See Räçi tulya amsa as well. > > |7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha. > | > |With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on > |29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions. > |Please correct me if found wrong. > RATH: Absurd! You have placed Kala on the head! Did you not find another > place to fit the Sani dev in? Is this not the marana sthana of Saturn. See > what happened to the King at the beginning of Kali yuga...Kala sat on his > head. > > What is the Janma Rasi and Lagna of the child? What consideration has been > given to this? > | > |Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > | > |Prabodh Vekhande > |Jai Jai Shankar > |Har Har Shankar > | > | > | > | > | > |varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " <ramadasrao> > |wrote: > |> ` nmae naray[ay, > |> om namo näräyaëäya| > |> Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about > |> Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta > |Padavi, > |> Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. > |> Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : > |> jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p<cme caÚÉ< sÚnXyayae inzakRStpis > |> )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR > |> r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. > |> ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, > |> %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. > |> janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà > |sannanadhyäyo > |> niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra > |janmacandrät > |> gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù > |> pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi navame > |> daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| > |> > |> Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th > |year.Some have > |> said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be > |> performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th > |> year,then Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, > |> Hasta, Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and > |Uttarabhadra are the > |> best Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and > |> Revathi are middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra > |should not > |> be set ( > |Astangata > |> ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more > |important.According to > |> Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be transitting > |> over 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta > |Madhaveeyam,even Guru's > |> transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana > |and Shukla > |> Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, > |Mitra and > |> Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can > |perform the > |> Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta > |Madhaveeya says > |> for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in > |6th or > |> 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also > |should have > |> Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from > |> their Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his > |> Father's Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder > |> brother or Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th > |should not > |> be > |occupied by > |> Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is > |ok.Budha > |> in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or > |Trikona > |> from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per > |> Prayoga Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for > |> Upanayana.It > |aslo says, > |> Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. > |> Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: > |> ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme, rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy > |> tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, ïeò< me; > |> H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. > |> viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| räjanyasya > |> caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo gomithunäçrite > |> tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà| çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige > |> gréñme çaradanyayoù|| Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana > |has to be > |> conducted at 7th > |year,for > |> Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the > |> performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is > |good for > |> Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha > |months > |> are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For > |> Brahmins,Vasanta Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma > |Ritu and for > |> Vaishyas > |Sharadrutu is > |> advisible. > |> Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > |> > |> ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! > |praÉv irpUn! > |> mu®vaNygí<Ôma>. > |> ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj> zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! > |> ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve. > |> karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo riùpha > |> suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| > |krüräççatrubhavänujeñu > |> çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo > |> dvitéyodbhave|| > |> > |> Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing > |Upavita ,the > |> Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru > |should be in > |> 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra > |should > |> not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in > |6-11-3 are > |> agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not > |> agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. > |> Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna > |Kendra : > |> > |> kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD<it Üu_y>, gu[sy > |> SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!. > |> kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca > |prayacchanti > |> nrubhyaù| > |> guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram > |yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat|| > |> > |> If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a > |poet.If Guru > |> is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in > |Kendra makes > |> a Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in > |> Kendra ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in > |Muhurta Lagna > |Kendra,the > |> Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If > |Ravi is in > |> Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental > |organisation.Kuja in > |> a Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons > |and if > |> Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people > |or low > |> caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, > |then > |> the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we > |have to > |> consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta > |Lagna. > |> As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited and > |> for marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like > |> Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, Ganda > |> and Atiganda are prohibited. > |> Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : > |> Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which > |> Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified. > |> > |> keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa<ziSwte, l¶awaRnujge istae > |> guébuxaE keNÔenukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI, > |> saEMya<ze;u ivxaE buxakRæuguja> kmaRy l¶iSwta>. > |> gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja<itmmuo > |> Èy<ze;u zu³e<iÖna. > |> oe<Tye va ividnae Éve tnugtZzu³ae guévaHR;e yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne > |> àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>. > |> kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite| > |lagnärthänujage > |> sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù > |> kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya > |> lagnasthitäù|| gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye > |> ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä|| kheantye vä > |> vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe yogässaptanruëämihopanayane > |> proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| > |> > |> Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in > |11th > |> from Muhurta Lagna. > |> 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru > |and Budha > |> in Kendra in a good house. > |> 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) > |and Guru in > |> strength in Kendra. > |> 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and > |Shukra in Lagna. > |> 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in > |Kataka > |> Rashi. > |> 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka > |Vargothamamsha > |> and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. > |> 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in > |> Meena Rashi. > |> Now as per Narada Maharshi : > |> > |> ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, > |> àaKs<Xya gijRte neòae ìtb<xae gl¢he. > |> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| präksandhyä garjite > |> neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| > |> > |> Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya > |> Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are > |> prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis > |are Gala > |> Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya > |Tithis are > |> prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the > |half day > |> is Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all > |Anadhyaya > |> days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. > |> > |> When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla > |Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th > |> Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta > |available > |> in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna > |Paksha can > |> be considered. > |> Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana > |Muhurtas.Let us go > |> through them also. > |> 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra > |> having Shubha Navamsha. > |> 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and > |malefics > |> in 11th house. > |> 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in > |Kendra > |> or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. > |> 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. > |> 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and > |Kuja in > |> 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. > |> 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic > |> planets ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with > |> Guru in Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th > |and 8th house. > |> 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11. > |> 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's > |aspect,Guru in > |> Lagna Kendra or Trikona. > |> 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting > |Chandra,Ravi in > |> 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. > |> I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient > |Classics on > |> Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. > |> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > |> Ramadas Rao. > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] > |> Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM > |> varahamihira > |> |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> Dear Sanjay ji Namste > |> > |> Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be > |> well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th. > |> Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. > |> Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd > |> or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is > |> cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should > |> not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. > |> I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna > |and Moon > |> and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house > |> for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or > |5th. 5th may > |> be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it > |> is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly > |once you said > |> about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava > |should be > |> empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. > |> > |> I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am > |> finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on > |> 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems > |to be most > |> suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan > |> palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as > |well. The Moon > |> is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only > |> problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in > |> kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in > |previous > |> lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next > |> lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. > |> So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do > |somethingg to > |> nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? > |> > |> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > |> > |> Prabodh Vekhande > |> Jai Jai Shankar > |> Har Har Shankar > |> > |> > |> varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " > |<guruji@s...> wrote: > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya > |> > Dear Prabodh > |> > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta > |> Book. Does > |> > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya > |> arambha? Should > |> > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying > |> this to > |> > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. > |> > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given > |by Dr Raman > |> > Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com > |> > http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri > |> > 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > > |> > Dear Sanjay > |> > |> ji Namste > |> > > |> > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are > |> many who > |> > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is > |> concerned > |> > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should > |> > we consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and > |> > place > |> as 2 or > |> > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person > |> becomes Dwija. > |> > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and > |karak for > |> > second birth? > |> > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am > |> thinking > |> > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I > |will prefer > |> a lagna > |> > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. > |> > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this > |> it would > |> > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work > |> > and patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. > |> > > |> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. > |> > > |> > Prabodh Vekhande > |> > Jai Jai Shankar > |> > Har Har Shankar > |> > > |> > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > |> > http://uk.messenger. > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> > |> |Om Tat Sat| > |> http://www.varahamihira > |> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dear Prabodh, You said, 2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu |service oriented which is not bad in todays standards. I think M.M.says he will serve Neecha people, implying it will be not good there. Chandrashekhar. Sanjay Rath wrote: > >om namo bhagavate väsudeväya >Dear Prabodh >Comments are given below - >Best Wishes >Sanjay Rath >Web Pages: http://srath.com http://.org >SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India +91.6752.226269 > > > >| >|Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] >|Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:27 PM >|varahamihira >||Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana >| >| >| >|Dear Ramdas Rao ji Namaste >| >|Thanks for your detailed information. I have tried to apply >|all together. Please gothrough it and rectify if required. >| >|There seems to be many parameters and we can satisfy as much >|as possible. I have a copy of Muhurta Chintamni and with your >|information added I have decided to follow these guidelines. >|1) get the benefics in the kendras >Rath: How can you do this? All may not be. What is important is your Veda. > >|2) If Saturn is in Kendra according to MC it makes Batu >|service oriented which is not bad in todays standards. >Rath: No Saturn shold not be in Kendra for the Gayatri mantra. > >|3) The karaks Ju and Me should be well placed. >Rath: Guru has to be in a Kendra without fail and no planets in the 5th >house else the Dwija will not recite the mantra regularly. > >|4) 5th,2nd,and 8th house should be empty. >Rath: Only 5th and 8th houses have to be empty. Benefic Mercury can be in >the 8th but this is best avoided. > >|5) The Navmansha of Moon should not of Sun,Mars or self. >Rath: Why is vargottama Moon bad? Think for yourself. > >|6) The Navmansha lagna should be benefic. >Rath: What is benefic? See Räçi tulya amsa as well. > >|7) The Sun should be in benefic Navmansha. >| >|With this much I have decided muhurta to be 9.15 on >|29/Apr/2005(Nagpur). It seems to satisfy most of the conditions. >|Please correct me if found wrong. >RATH: Absurd! You have placed Kala on the head! Did you not find another >place to fit the Sani dev in? Is this not the marana sthana of Saturn. See >what happened to the King at the beginning of Kali yuga...Kala sat on his >head. > >What is the Janma Rasi and Lagna of the child? What consideration has been >given to this? >| >|Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. >| >|Prabodh Vekhande >|Jai Jai Shankar >|Har Har Shankar >| >| >| >| >| >|varahamihira , " Ramadas Rao " <ramadasrao> >|wrote: >|> ` nmae naray[ay, >|> om namo näräyaëäya| >|> Dear Prabodh and other listed members, I am giving below about >|> Upanayana Muhurtam as explained in Muhurta >|Padavi, >|> Muhurta Madhavi,Prayoga Parijaata, Narada etc. >|> Now let us see what is written in Muhurta Padavi : >|> jNmBdat! sÝmadaE Sèutmupnyn< p<cme caÚÉ< sÚnXyayae inzakRStpis >|> )i[k...jaE caòme zu³taeNye, te r<Ø jNmc<Ôat! guérip shje jNmÉacayR >|> r<Ø< ³...:[> p]aekRjaöuiGdnmynMvakoe p]itmRXyma va. >|> ATyapid nvme dzme va k...yaRt!, >|> %pnItaE iÖje<Ôa[a< AòmaeBd> zuÉae mt>. >|> janmabdät saptamädau smrutamupanayanaà païcame cännabhaà >|sannanadhyäyo >|> niçärkastapasi phaëikujau cäñöame çukratoanye| te randhra >|janmacandrät >|> gururapi sahaje janmabhäcärya randhraà kruñëaù >|> pakñorkajäsrugdinamayanamväk pakñatirmadhyamä vä|| atyäpadi navame >|> daçame vä kuryät| upanétau dvijendräëäm añöamobdaù çubho mataù|| >|> >|> Meaning Upanayana has to be conducted to a child at his 7th >|year.Some have >|> said even if we consider Garbhashtama ,then also Upanayana can be >|> performed.But 5th year is very good.6th is not good.After 8th >|> year,then Upanayana is not good.Rohini, Mrigashira,Punarvasu,Uttara, >|> Hasta, Chitra,Anuradha,Uttarashada,Dhanishta and >|Uttarabhadra are the >|> best Nakshatras.Ashvini,Pushyami, Swati,Shravana, Shatabhisha and >|> Revathi are middling and can be considered.Guru and Shukra >|should not >|> be set ( >|Astangata >|> ).Adhika Month has to be prohibited.Guru Bala is more >|important.According to >|> Prayoga Parijata from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru should be transitting >|> over 2nd,11th,7th,9th and 5th houses.According to Muhurta >|Madhaveeyam,even Guru's >|> transit over 10th from Vatu's Janma Rashi is advisible.Uttarayana >|and Shukla >|> Paksha good.Even if Guru in transit is strongly placed in Uccha, >|Mitra and >|> Moola Trikona Sthana,then after performing Guru Shanti one can >|perform the >|> Upanayana during its transit over 1,3,4 and 10th.But Muhurta >|Madhaveeya says >|> for Guru in 10th,there is no need for Guru Shanti.Guru in transit in >|6th or >|> 8th or 12th from Janma Rashi is prohibited.Even the parents also >|should have >|> Taranukula ie., Guru's transit should be in favourable houses from >|> their Janma Rashis.Now Upanayana can be done by Vatu's Father or his >|> Father's Father,his elder brother,father's younger brother or elder >|> brother or Acharya in this order.In the Muhurta Lagna, 9th >|should not >|> be >|occupied by >|> Ravi, Kuja and Rahu.Chandra should not be in 8th.Shukra in 8th is >|ok.Budha >|> in Janmashtama is also agreeable.Guru must be either in Kendra or >|Trikona >|> from Muhurta Lagna.Tuesdays and Saturdays are prohibited.As per >|> Prayoga Parijata, the birth month can also be considered for >|> Upanayana.It >|aslo says, >|> Janma Lagna,Janma Nakshatra and Janma Month are all agreeable. >|> Now as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam: >|> ivàSyaiÉiht< iÖtIyjnn< v;eR zuÉ< sÝme, rajNySy ctuiÉRrÇ sihte vEZySy >|> tu Öadze, sUyaeR gaeimwunaiïte tdxm< k...<ÉE[ge mXym<, ïeò< me; >|> H;aiïte suriÉge ¢I:me zrdNyyae>. >|> viprasyäbhihitaà dvitéyajananaà varñe çubhaà saptame| räjanyasya >|> caturbhiratra sahite vaiçyasya tu dvädaçe| süryo gomithunäçrite >|> tadadhamaà kumbhaiëage madhyamaà| çreñöaà meña jhañäçrite surabhige >|> gréñme çaradanyayoù|| Meaning for a Brahmin Vatu, Upanayana >|has to be >|> conducted at 7th >|year,for >|> Kshatriyas it is at 11th year,for Vaishyas, it is at 12th year,the >|> performing of Upanayana is the best.Eventhough Uttarayana is >|good for >|> Upanayana,Vrishabha and Mithuna months are middling,Meena and Mesha >|months >|> are the best,Kumbha and Makara months are also best.For >|> Brahmins,Vasanta Ritu is the best, for Kshatriyas Grishma >|Ritu and for >|> Vaishyas >|Sharadrutu is >|> advisible. >|> Now again as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : >|> >|> ktuRjRNm¢uhaÏ?nagmsut ôIxmR kmRiSwtae jIvae ir>^) suÿ't! >|praÉv irpUn! >|> mu®vaNygí<Ôma>. >|> ³ªraZzÇuÉvanuje;u zuÉda ir>^)aÔ'te c<Ôj> zu³SsÝMtaeNy raiz;u crn! >|> ïeòae iÖtIyaeÑve. >|> karturjanmagruhäddhnägamasuta strédharma karmasthito jévo riùpha >|> suhrut paräbhava ripün muktvänyagaçcandramäù|| >|krüräççatrubhavänujeñu >|> çubhadä riùphädrute candrajaù çukrassaptamtoanya räçiñu caran çreñöo >|> dvitéyodbhave|| >|> >|> Meaning : Upanayana means Gayatri Mantropadesha.After wearing >|Upavita ,the >|> Vatu has Punarjanma or new life.So from Vatu's Janma Rashi Guru >|should be in >|> 2nd or11th,5th,7th,9th or 10th in transit.In Muhurta Lagna, Chandra >|should >|> not be in 12th or 4th or 6th or 8th.Ravi, Kuja,Shani and Rahu in >|6-11-3 are >|> agreeable.Budha in 12th house is not good.Shukra in 7th is also not >|> agreeable.Then we have to consider other Muhurta Doshas also. >|> Further Muhurta Madhaveeyam says about results of planets in Lagna >|Kendra : >|> >|> kivTv< guéTv< buxTv< c keNÔe zuÉaôIn! gu[a<í àyCD<it Üu_y>, gu[sy >|> SvkIySy dan< n icÇm! ydÇaNyyaedaRnmTyÑ't< tt!. >|> kavitvaà gurutvaà budhatvaà ca kendre çubhästrén guëäàçca >|prayacchanti >|> nrubhyaù| >|> guëasya svakéyasya dänaà na citram >|yadatränyayordänamatyadbhutaà tat|| >|> >|> If Shukra is in a kendra from Muhurta Lagna,the vatu becomes a >|poet.If Guru >|> is in same position, he will be respected by all,Budha in >|Kendra makes >|> a Vatu a Vidwamsa or a learned Scholar.If all these planets are in >|> Kendra ,they give all the above results.If Chandra is in >|Muhurta Lagna >|Kendra,the >|> Vatu will take up either business or agriculture as his career.If >|Ravi is in >|> Kendra, then he will be working in a governmental >|organisation.Kuja in >|> a Kendra makes the Vatu ,an expert in education pertaining to weapons >|and if >|> Shani in a similar place,then he will be working under evil people >|or low >|> caste people.If Shani and Kuja are there in 12th from Muhurta Lagna, >|then >|> the Purohit who performs Upanayana may lose his eye sight.Also we >|have to >|> consider all Sunapha, Anapha,Dhurdhura and Adhi Yogas from Muhurta >|Lagna. >|> As per Prayoga Parijata,for Upanayana Guru's Asta is prohibited and >|> for marriage Shukra's Asta is prohibited.He also says Yogas like >|> Vishkambha,Vajra,Parigha,Vyatipata,Shula, Vyaaghata,Vaidhriti, Ganda >|> and Atiganda are prohibited. >|> Upanayana Yogas as per Muhurta Madhaveeyam : >|> Here I am going to reveal 7 Muhurta Yogas for Upanayana during which >|> Yogas,if one performs Upanayana,all small Doshas will get nullified. >|> >|> keNÔe devguraE Éve idnkre keNÔe zuÉa<ziSwte, l¶awaRnujge istae >|> guébuxaE keNÔenukªla> pre, Sv]RSwae½gte yid gué> keNÔe iÇkae[e blI, >|> saEMya<ze;u ivxaE buxakRæuguja> kmaRy l¶iSwta>. >|> gaeme;e<Ê ¢he;u zu³idn³...½<Ôe;u vI[aedye mIne<ÖaSpdme;ja<itmmuo >|> Èy<ze;u zu³e<iÖna. >|> oe<Tye va ividnae Éve tnugtZzu³ae guévaHR;e yaegaSsÝÜu[aimhaepnyne >|> àae´a zuÉaiSsiÏda>. >|> kendre devagurau bhave dinakare kendre çubhäàçasthite| >|lagnärthänujage >|> sito gurubudhau kendreanuküläù pare| svarkñasthoccagate yadi guruù >|> kendre trikoëe balé| saumyäàçeñu vidhau budhärkabhrugujäù karmäya >|> lagnasthitäù|| gomeñendu graheñu çukradinakruccandreñu véëodaye >|> ménendväspadameñajäntimamukha tryaàçeñu çukrendvinä|| kheantye vä >|> vidino bhave tanugataççukro guruvärjhañe yogässaptanruëämihopanayane >|> proktä çubhässiddhidäù|| >|> >|> Meaning : 1) Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,Guru in Lagna Kendra,Ravi in >|11th >|> from Muhurta Lagna. >|> 2) Shukra is either in Muhurta Lagna or in 2nd or in 3rd ,and Guru >|and Budha >|> in Kendra in a good house. >|> 3) Shukra is either in his own house or Uccha ( Exalted ) >|and Guru in >|> strength in Kendra. >|> 4) Chandra in Shubhamsha,Budha in 10th,Ravi in 11th and >|Shukra in Lagna. >|> 5) Lagna - Mithuna,Shukra in Vrishabha,Ravi in Mesha and Chandra in >|Kataka >|> Rashi. >|> 6) Shukra in Meena Rashi in Vargothamamsha,Chandra in Kataka >|Vargothamamsha >|> and Ravi in Mesha Rashi in Simha Navamsha. >|> 7) From Muhurta Lagna, Budha in 10th or 12th,Ravi in 11th,Guru in >|> Meena Rashi. >|> Now as per Narada Maharshi : >|> >|> ³...:[e àdae;enXyaye znaE inZzpraYke, >|> àaKs<Xya gijRte neòae ìtb<xae gl¢he. >|> kruñëe pradoñeanadhyäye çanau niççaparähëake| präksandhyä garjite >|> neñöo vratabandho galagrahe|| >|> >|> Meaning for Upanayana Muhurta,Krishna Paksha,Pradosha,Anadhyaya >|> Tithi,Saturday,night time,afternoon and during Gala Graha day are >|> prohibited.Krishna Paksha- Saptami,Ashtami and Chaturdashi Tithis >|are Gala >|> Graha days.Rikta tithi,Chidra Tithi,Ekadashi Tithi and Amavasya >|Tithis are >|> prohibited.Vadhriti,Vyatipata,Mahapata during these days,the >|half day >|> is Anadhyaya ,also Ashtami,Chaturdashi ,Poornima and Amavasya are all >|Anadhyaya >|> days which are prohibited for conducting Upanayana. >|> >|> When there is no Yoga Doshas,in Shukla >|Paksha,2nd,3rd,5th,7th and 13th >|> Tithis are good.In case of emergency when there is no good Muhurta >|available >|> in Shukla Paksha,then the 2nd,3rd,5th and 6th Tithis in Krishna >|Paksha can >|> be considered. >|> Now Prayoga Parijata also gives some Yogas for Upanayana >|Muhurtas.Let us go >|> through them also. >|> 1) In Upanayana Muhurta Lagna kendra Guru's placement and Chandra >|> having Shubha Navamsha. >|> 2) Shukra and Budha in Lagna Kendra in auspicious houses and >|malefics >|> in 11th house. >|> 3) Shukra is either in Meena or in Vrishabha or in Tula and Guru in >|Kendra >|> or Trikona from Muhurta Lagna. >|> 4) Shukra and Budha in Kendras from Lagna and Ravi in 11th house. >|> 5) Shukra and Guru in Meena Lagna,Budha in 10th or 12th, Shani and >|Kuja in >|> 11th or in 3rd from Lagna. >|> 6) Upanayana Lagna being auspicious house ( sign ruling benefic >|> planets ),Chandra in Shubhamsha and is with Sunapha Yoga ,along with >|> Guru in Kendra.But there should not be any malefics in 7th >|and 8th house. >|> 7) Guru in Lagna Kendra or Trikona,Shukra in 12th,Malefics in 3-6-11. >|> 8) To the Muhurta Lagna ,there is Shubha and Strong planet's >|aspect,Guru in >|> Lagna Kendra or Trikona. >|> 9) Exalted Chandra in Shubha Navamsha,strong Guru aspecting >|Chandra,Ravi in >|> 11th in Shubhamsha and Budha,Shukra in auspicious houses. >|> I hope the above explanations culled out from different ancient >|Classics on >|> Muhurta will help in computing a good Muhurta for Upanayana. >|> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, >|> Ramadas Rao. >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> Prabodh Vekhande [amolmandar] >|> Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:10 PM >|> varahamihira >|> |Sri Varaha| Re: Upanayana >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> Dear Sanjay ji Namste >|> >|> Dr. B.V. Raman has said that the Sun, the Moon and Jupiter should be >|> well placed from the lagna and moon should never be in 6th/8th/12th. >|> Kendras should not have ,malefics and 6th should not have benefic. >|> Mars or/and Saturn should not be in 5th. Saturn should not be in 2nd >|> or 12th as well. Moon should not be in lagna except when lagna is >|> cancer with exalted Jupiter with malefics in 3,6,or 11. Moon should >|> not be with Mercury and in own amsa or in Sun or mars. >|> I think more emphasised is on benefic well placed from Lagna >|and Moon >|> and 5th and 2nd house. he has not taken into consideration 4th house >|> for upanayanam. So what should be the Karyabhava? 2nd or >|5th. 5th may >|> be because upnayanam is spiritual learning and 2nd may be because it >|> is abtained through Veda pathan. If I remember correctly >|once you said >|> about Muhurta in Nagpur that as far as possible karya bhava >|should be >|> empty. This is what he has given in Pre-Natal Ceremonies. >|> >|> I tried to satisfy many of these conditions but on a said date I am >|> finding it difficult to satisfy all the conditions. Like on >|> 29-Apr-2005 8.55 a.m(date of Upanayanam) Gemini lagna seems >|to be most >|> suitable as it leaves 6th/8th/12th empty and Ju and Me in parivartan >|> palced in Kendra. 5th lord Ve is aspecting 5th house as >|well. The Moon >|> is well placed in 7th aspecting lagna in the Kanya navmansha. Only >|> problem I see is the placement of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in >|> kendra. If we try to avoid this then we have a problem as in >|previous >|> lagna Moon will occupy 8th and 5th gets occupied by Ju-Ke. In next >|> lagna Moon again gets in 6th and Mars in 8th. >|> So most 'suitable' seems to be Mithuna lagna. Can we do >|somethingg to >|> nullify the effects of Saturn in Lagna and Ra-Ke in 10-4 axis? >|> >|> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. >|> >|> Prabodh Vekhande >|> Jai Jai Shankar >|> Har Har Shankar >|> >|> >|> varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " >|<guruji@s...> wrote: >|> > >|> > >|> > >|> > om namo bhagavate väsudeväya >|> > Dear Prabodh >|> > Please study what Dr Raman has to write about this in the Muhurta >|> Book. Does >|> > he not have separate chapters/topics for Upanayana and Vidya >|> arambha? Should >|> > these not be related to 5th & 4th houses respectively? I am copying >|> this to >|> > the Varahamihira list so that everyone benefits. >|> > Let us begin with an examination of the principles given >|by Dr Raman >|> > Best Wishes Sanjay Rath Web Pages: http://srath.com >|> > http://.org SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri >|> > 752001, India +91.6752.226269 >|> > >|> > >|> > >|> > >|> > >|> > Dear Sanjay >|> >|> ji Namste >|> > >|> > Thanks for the mail. I have one more concern. Now a days there are >|> many who >|> > come for muhurta for Vivaha and Upanayanam. As far as Vivaha is >|> concerned >|> > the karak is Ve and place is 7th but what about upanayanam? Should >|> > we consider as begining of education and hence karak as Me/Ju and >|> > place >|> as 2 or >|> > 5th house? It is belived that after the upanayanam the person >|> becomes Dwija. >|> > So it is a secoond birth for the child. WHat is the house and >|karak for >|> > second birth? >|> > Actuall I am thinking of doing Upanayanam of my sons as well. I am >|> thinking >|> > of fixing a Sunday. Am I right on day part? For timing I >|will prefer >|> a lagna >|> > of Shubha graha and Me and/or Ju well placed in D-1 and/or D-24. >|> > Once it is fixed that what is the correct karak and place for this >|> it would >|> > be more simple. Can we have Saturn in Lagna? as it gives hard work >|> > and patience which is required for any learning. Please giude. >|> > >|> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. >|> > >|> > Prabodh Vekhande >|> > Jai Jai Shankar >|> > Har Har Shankar >|> > >|> > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! >|> > http://uk.messenger. >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> >|> |Om Tat Sat| >|> http://www.varahamihira >|> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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