Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dear Rama Namste I knew you would come up with someting different! But for those like me who still have effect of Maya and are Bhairmuka will fail to understand the nature of Venus and its exaltation. Venus is shakti(Kundalini) that is raised because of feet of lord and it is as well Maya, prominent when ayana is antizodiacal which is responsible whatever 'dirve' we have. The change of direction is upaveeta(Threading) from left to right. This direction is Savya. By default one is born with Apasavya direction and by changing the direction one becomes dwija. Why this change of direction happens from 9th house? It seems that the Upanayanam should be then performed in the month of Chaitra where Sun exalted(?). On the day of 29th of April Sun is in Mesha and it is Chaitamasa. So at least choice of month is not wrong. The Thithi is Krishna Sashti which allowed by 'classical'Muhurta rules. The lagna that I have selected happens to be Mithuna and hence will be 7th from Amol's lagna and 5th from Mandar's. Will that be OK. Only problem that is troubling me is Saturn in lagna as 8th lord. Thanks a lot for your Time and Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar har Har Shankar varahamihira , rama narayanan <sree88ganesha> wrote: > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Sanjay , Paji, Amol mandar & others, > > Meena is the 12th house of the kalapurusha. Meena is the swakshetra of Guru. Guru represents the 'dhi' sakthi'. When the 'dhi sakthi' gets that illumination that inorder to attain the sahaja state (the original state/swakshetra effect) the only way is to surrender to the holy feet of the Lord, Guru induces the jiva to offer himself (sacrifice/mahabali - 12th house principle - yajna) with a plea to the Lord that He may place his feet on the head. The moment the Lord responds and blesses the native with pada sparsha (TOUCH OF THE HOLY FEET) the Kundalini sakthi(venus) raises with the speed of lightening and places herself in the sahasrara dala padma so as to reach to paramapada(holiest of holiest shrines - moksha pada - ketu has his moolatrikona here in Meena). > > What does this mean? So long as the jiva is groping in darkness and is bahir mukha(showing the back to the lord - akin to retrogression of Guru - Rahu) the drive(3rd house effect) is beautifully dominated by Maya(Venus). The moment the direction is changed by way of investiture( left to right - thereby making the antizodiacal rahu zodiacal - upavitam - 9th house - Guru's moola trikona - dhanur - Ketu is exalted - ) and the jiva is made to present himself(herself) before the Lord(upanayana means presenting/leading to ) it is said to be the second birth on account of changes in ayana/directions and that Maya is extremely pleased(exaltation of venus in Meena) and showers upon her choicest blessings(siddhis) and crowns with 1000 petalled lotus. > > It is said though the lotus is born out of jala tatwa but opens up only on seing the Sun(agni). The materially soaked jiva opens up only on obtaining that illumination to sacrifice(the dharma of nara is to sacrifice - the opposite quality of desire/rahu). The 15 degrees starting from Meena to that 15 degrees in Mesha is the Hora belonging to Sun. Sun/Indra is the presiding deity of the ceremony Upanayana. Each ceremony has a presiding deity(eg.garbhadana is presided over by Brahma). > > Investiture/upanayana helps in the change of ayana of the jiva. This helps in the proper understanding of Maya. This proper understanding of Maya is what is known as exaltation of Venus in Meena. In layman's parlance the directional changes are always considered as inimical. Hence it is felt that Venus is exalted in his enemy's camp. > > Amongst all the other factors the lagna(seat of intelligence) and Sun are to be given special focus while fixing up the Muhurtha for Upanayana. > > With respects, > > Astrologically yours, > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46> wrote: Dear Nitin, > Theoretically, it would be brightest in particular degrees with reference to being in other Rasi at identical degrees/ time of a day in same ritu. > I would say that the planet would be more luminous in his exaltation Rasi and getting gradually less so as it approaches its debilitation point. This is what was meant by B. Surya Narainrao. So as Me. Rao has said one who has patience to see this over period of time will be in a position to state on what you have asked, authoritatively. Many dispute Mr. Rao's statement. I prefer to think that what he said was right. > Chandrashekhar. > > Nitin wrote: > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Chandrashekahar Ji and List Members, Namaskaar. > > This has been an insightful post, and thank you for sharing this with us. > > I have been reflecting on one thing, though... > (I do not have the said text with me at hand. Perhaps more is revealed > there, and I will also look into it when I get a chance.) > > Would the Sun in Aries (or any other said planet in a classified state > of exaltation / debilitation), in the appropriate degree, be most > luminous during: > > Sunrise > Mid-day > Sunset > Midnight > ....or at other times? > > May the Gurus continue to guide us. > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > vedic astrology , " tarun " <tarun_vst> wrote: > > > > Dear ChandraShekhar ji, > > > > Thanks for the information provided by you, as the reason u suggested > > is quite astronomical to understand. > > > > If you dont mind to tell. are there any book available on internet > > that can be downoloaded to acuire more knowledge. > > > > thanks > > > > Tarun Aggarwal > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46> wrote: > > > Dear tarun, > > > B. Suryanarain Rao, Grandfather of Dr. B.V. Raman has said in his > > > commentary on Sarvartha Chintamani that these are the Rasis in > > which the > > > planets appear the brightest at the degrees indicated as Paramoccha. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > tarun wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello nitin.. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the matter provided by you. > > > > I had even gone through the BPHS, but i am in need of a scientific > > > > reason for the same. i believe in the GURU tag given to planets > > but i > > > > am in search of a cientific reason for the same > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , " Nitin " <astronitin> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun and List Members, Namaskaar. > > > > > > > > > > Allow me to share some of my understanding. > > > > > > > > > > =============================== > > > > > > > > > > BPHS (English Translation): > > > > > Ch. 3. Grah Characters and Description > > > > > 49-50. Exaltation and Debilitation. For the seven Grahas, from > > Surya > > > > > to Shani on, the exaltation Rashis are, respectively, Mesh, > > > > Vrishabh, > > > > > Makar, Kanya, Kark, Meen and Tula. The deepest exaltation > > degrees > > > > are, > > > > > respectively, 10, 3, 28, 15, 5, 27 and 20 in those Rashis. And > > in > > > > the > > > > > seventh Rashi from the said exaltation Rashi each Grah has its > > own > > > > > debilitation. The same degrees of deep exaltation apply to deep > > > > fall. > > > > > =============================== > > > > > > > > > > Here is one interpretation: > > > > > > > > > > Deva Guru Brihaspati (Jupiter) as well as Asura Guru > > ShukraCharya > > > > > (Venus) have both been given the status of Gurus, though > > adhering to > > > > > different philosophies. > > > > > > > > > > Hence, when Venus is invited to the House of the Maharishis > > > > (Pisces), > > > > > it is in a state of joy... > > > > > > > > > > May the Gurus continue to guide us. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > > > Nitin. > > > > > > > > > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================== > > > > > hello to all members. > > > > > > > > > > i have read that jupiter is enemy of venus and then even in meen > > > > > rashi it is exalted..why this is so..and this also with few > > other > > > > > planets alos. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet Friends Enemies Neutrals > > > > > The Sun Mon, Mar,Jup Ven, Sat Mer > > > > > The Moon Sun, Mer -- Mars, Jup,Ven, Sat > > > > > Mars Sun, Mon, Jup Mer Ven, Sat > > > > > Mercury Sun, Ven Mon Mars, Jup, Sat > > > > > Jupiter Sun, Mon, Mar Mer, Ven Sat > > > > > Venus Mer, Sat Sun, Mon Mars, Jup > > > > > Saturn Mer, Ven Sun, Mon,Mar Jup > > > > > > > > > > tarun agarwal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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