Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Dear Lakshmiji, <<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>> If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective. If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc; Warm Regards, Saaji varahamihira , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Krishna > Dear SJC gurus and friends, > How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? > Whether it be business , marraige etc, > Do we look to teh 11th from that house, > any knowledge you have please share, > also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone, > Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others) > I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things.. > 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, > anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, > It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women, > Thank-you, > Lakshmi > P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Dear Lakshmi, Perhaps in addition to 11th, 7th and 12th house also need to be looked at in these matters. Especially any connection of Rahu with those houses, Lagna being weak. Would like other's opinion on this vital part. Chandrashekhar. lakshmikary wrote: Hare Krishna Dear SJC gurus and friends, How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? Whether it be business , marraige etc, Do we look to teh 11th from that house, any knowledge you have please share, also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved with someone, Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many others) I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and thus protect their assets and such things.. 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of the level of some of these women, Thank-you, Lakshmi P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today, |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Jyotishas, Intend to cheat is character of afflicted Dharma, Hence I would suggest to Look at Dharma Trikona. 9th UL is the Dharma which protects the Marriage. Trines to 7th will indicate the Dharma for all relationship. Rashi Chart will indicate what the native faces and I would think the Bhava Chart will indicate the natives own nature. For Female chart judge from 7th. Warm Regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat. varahamihira , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46> wrote: > Dear Lakshmi, > Perhaps in addition to 11th, 7th and 12th house also need to be looked > at in these matters. Especially any connection of Rahu with those > houses, Lagna being weak. Would like other's opinion on this vital part. > Chandrashekhar. > > lakshmikary wrote: > > > > > Hare Krishna > > Dear SJC gurus and friends, > > How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? > > Whether it be business , marraige etc, > > Do we look to teh 11th from that house, > > any knowledge you have please share, > > also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > > with someone, > > Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > > others) > > I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > > thus protect their assets and such things.. > > 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, > > anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, > > It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > > the level of some of these women, > > Thank-you, > > Lakshmi > > P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today, > > > > > > > > > > > > |Om Tat Sat| > > http://www.varahamihira > > > > > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today,|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Sarbani, I think malefics in the 4th house in the Navamsha indicates the suffering that comes our way.I have Rahu placed here and I have been cheated alot.In the rashi Rahu is placed in the UL so I was cheated in my marriage. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today,|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Kanu, I also have Rahu as well as badhak associated with my UL. Yet, I never had been cheated or felt shaky about my marriage. Yes, there were headaches being created by "others" (Rahu), but the bond between us always remained strong and precious, because Sun and Jupiter, the karakas for Dharma are strong in my chart, and influence the UL. All this, despite the 2/12 position of UL & AL! Regards, Lakshmikanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Sarbani, I think malefics in the 4th house in the Navamsha indicates the suffering that comes our way.I have Rahu placed here and I have been cheated alot.In the rashi Rahu is placed in the UL so I was cheated in my marriage. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today,|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, I think B.V. Raman judged "Nishkapata yoga" basically in the rasi chart, but as the issue is dharma in relationships, it can be verified from navamsa too. While this yoga reflects the native's demeanour & dealings in general, perhaps the 7th house / lord's dignity and associations also need to be looked into. While "nishkapata yoga" talks about benefics in 4th house, I feel exalted / strong malefics in 4th house also can give nishkapata yoga, while weak benefics / malefics may not truly give the strength of mind that is necessary for total transparency and honesty implied by the yoga. Any comments? Regards, Lakshmi Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today,|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Lakshmi, everyone, Namaskar When Guruji taught Kapaá¹a Yoga during the Puri conference, he mentioned that the Lagna shows our own intelligence, whilst the 4th shows our heart. Malefics in the 4th shows sorrow/shock coming to our heart, whilst malefics in the lagna shows a wrong intelligence that is predominating our mindset. So, when malefics are in the 4th you will have some feeling of being disapointed or decieved by others. Similarly if malefics are in the Lagna, your own intelligence could cause someone else to feel decieved by you. Malefics in both Lagna and 4th is one big mess and is almost a Sarpa Yoga – i.e. you cheat others and they cheat you.. dog eat dog world. Opposite is the case with benefics in both bhavas. Hope this helps, Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh] 11 March 2005 12:03 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, I think B.V. Raman judged " Nishkapata yoga " basically in the rasi chart, but as the issue is dharma in relationships, it can be verified from navamsa too. While this yoga reflects the native's demeanour & dealings in general, perhaps the 7th house / lord's dignity and associations also need to be looked into. While " nishkapata yoga " talks about benefics in 4th house, I feel exalted / strong malefics in 4th house also can give nishkapata yoga, while weak benefics / malefics may not truly give the strength of mind that is necessary for total transparency and honesty implied by the yoga. Any comments? Regards, Lakshmi Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji, <<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>> If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective. If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc; Warm Regards, Saaji varahamihira , " lakshmikary " <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Krishna > Dear SJC gurus and friends, > How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? > Whether it be business , marraige etc, > Do we look to teh 11th from that house, > any knowledge you have please share, > also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone, > Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others) > I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things.. > 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, > anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, > It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women, > Thank-you, > Lakshmi > P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today, |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti, Namaste. According to B.V. Raman, "nishkapata yoga" indicates that the person will be pure hearted and hates secrecy and hypocrisy. He also feels that either a benefic or a exalted/strong planet in 4th house, or the 4th house being a benefic sign, lagna lord in conjunction with the 4th lord placed in good vaiseshikaamsa, and influenced by a benefic can also ensure this. Ofcourse, you know all this. My own great friend and guide, a muslim gentleman, has this yoga...dhanur lagna with Jupiter in 4th house in pisces, and I have yet to come across a person who is more childlike, despite being a genius! I will go through Guruji's article. I could have missed the lecture because I left half way through the Puri conference. But I do have a doubt. In Sri Rama's chart the 4th house is occupied by exalted Saturn and in Sri Krishna's chart, by a strong Sun. But, I don't think they suffered from any negative feeling of being cheated etc. And, I don't think there is any doubt about Sri Rama being "nishkapata" either !! There must be many more such charts, ofcourse, but I can immediately recall these two. Regards, LakshmiVisti Larsen <visti wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Lakshmi, everyone, Namaskar When Guruji taught Kapaá¹a Yoga during the Puri conference, he mentioned that the Lagna shows our own intelligence, whilst the 4th shows our heart. Malefics in the 4th shows sorrow/shock coming to our heart, whilst malefics in the lagna shows a wrong intelligence that is predominating our mindset. So, when malefics are in the 4th you will have some feeling of being disapointed or decieved by others. Similarly if malefics are in the Lagna, your own intelligence could cause someone else to feel decieved by you. Malefics in both Lagna and 4th is one big mess and is almost a Sarpa Yoga – i.e. you cheat others and they cheat you.. dog eat dog world. Opposite is the case with benefics in both bhavas. Hope this helps, Best wishes, Visti Larsen http://srigaruda.com visti lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh] 11 March 2005 12:03varahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, I think B.V. Raman judged "Nishkapata yoga" basically in the rasi chart, but as the issue is dharma in relationships, it can be verified from navamsa too. While this yoga reflects the native's demeanour & dealings in general, perhaps the 7th house / lord's dignity and associations also need to be looked into. While "nishkapata yoga" talks about benefics in 4th house, I feel exalted / strong malefics in 4th house also can give nishkapata yoga, while weak benefics / malefics may not truly give the strength of mind that is necessary for total transparency and honesty implied by the yoga. Any comments? Regards, Lakshmi Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. 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Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Dear Sarbani, Navamsha chart is seen to gauge the strength of planets and also for spouse (Per Parashara). No doubt, 4th house represents heart , but I would think it is the physical heart. Being in 8th from Dharma Sthana and 12th from Buddhi Sthana, I doubt it could indicate the way one thinks. I would also like to hear what the learned say. You have opened a good thread. Chandrashekhar. Sarbani Sarkar wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji, <<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>> If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective. If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc; Warm Regards, Saaji varahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Krishna > Dear SJC gurus and friends, > How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? > Whether it be business , marraige etc, > Do we look to teh 11th from that house, > any knowledge you have please share, > also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone, > Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others) > I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things.. > 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, > anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, > It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women, > Thank-you, > Lakshmi > P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today, |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Dear Kanu Priya, Rahu in 4th would indicate heart of your spouse (Look at Navamsha for spouse: Parashara). The results of course do not differ. Chandrashekhar. kanu priya wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Sarbani, I think malefics in the 4th house in the Navamsha indicates the suffering that comes our way.I have Rahu placed here and I have been cheated alot.In the rashi Rahu is placed in the UL so I was cheated in my marriage. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji, <<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>> If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective. If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc; Warm Regards, Saaji varahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Krishna > Dear SJC gurus and friends, > How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? > Whether it be business , marraige etc, > Do we look to teh 11th from that house, > any knowledge you have please share, > also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone, > Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others) > I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things.. > 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, > anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, > It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women, > Thank-you, > Lakshmi > P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today, |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Small Business - Try our new resources site! |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Chandrashekhar Guruji, Thankyou for that explanation, I can surely agree with that.One more question on this though.What about people with multiple relationships or more than one marriage.Does this mean they will always come across people who will have such a constitution? Best Regards, Kanupriya.Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: Dear Kanu Priya,Rahu in 4th would indicate heart of your spouse (Look at Navamsha for spouse: Parashara). The results of course do not differ.Chandrashekhar.kanu priya wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Sarbani, I think malefics in the 4th house in the Navamsha indicates the suffering that comes our way.I have Rahu placed here and I have been cheated alot.In the rashi Rahu is placed in the UL so I was cheated in my marriage. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships.Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. Sarbani, thanks for your very NICE post today,|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Dear Kanupriya, No, as in all cases of multiple spouses or serious long term relationships, you will have to take 8th from that house and so on. If these houses also are so afflicted, then only will they come across similar persons, Natal chart supporting this. Chandrashekhar. kanu priya wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Chandrashekhar Guruji, Thankyou for that explanation, I can surely agree with that.One more question on this though.What about people with multiple relationships or more than one marriage.Does this mean they will always come across people who will have such a constitution? Best Regards, Kanupriya. Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: Dear Kanu Priya, Rahu in 4th would indicate heart of your spouse (Look at Navamsha for spouse: Parashara). The results of course do not differ. Chandrashekhar. kanu priya wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Sarbani, I think malefics in the 4th house in the Navamsha indicates the suffering that comes our way.I have Rahu placed here and I have been cheated alot.In the rashi Rahu is placed in the UL so I was cheated in my marriage. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji, <<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>> If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective. If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc; Warm Regards, Saaji varahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote: > > Hare Krishna > Dear SJC gurus and friends, > How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip? > Whether it be business , marraige etc, > Do we look to teh 11th from that house, > any knowledge you have please share, > also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone, > Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others) > I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things.. > 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc, > anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge, > It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women, > Thank-you, > Lakshmi > P.S. 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Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sarbani Ji, I am giving below what Varaha Mihira has written in Brihat Jataka about Nishkapati Yoga: in:kpq yaeg> ÿ‚dye zuÉs<yu´e Svae½imÇ¢haiNvte, zuÉ¢aha[a< ]eÇeva in:kaPq(< ivinidRzet!, niñkapaöa yogaù hrudaye çubhasaàyukte svoccamitragrahänvite| çubhagrähäëäà kñetrevä niñkäpöyaà vinirdiçet| Meaning if benefics are in 4th house or if 4th house becomes the Ucchakshetra,Mitra kshetra,Swakshetra for a planet or if 4th house belongs to benefic planet,then the native becomes Nishkapati. ivzuÏÿ‚dyae jatae ÿ‚dyeze blaiNvte gaepura*<zkevaip imÇSva<zgteipva. viçuddhahrudayo jäto hrudayeçe balänvite gopurädyaàçakeväpi mitrasväàçagatepivä|| Meaning if 4th lord who is strong placed in Gopura and other Visheshikamshas or in Mitramsha or in Swanavamsha ,then the native will have pure good heart ( Nishkapati ). l¶eñre ÿ‚Ìteva zuÉyu´e i]teipva, paravtaid ÉagSwe in:kapq(< ivinidRzet!. lagneçvare hrudgatevä çubhayukte kñitepivä| päräavatädi bhägasthe niñkäpaöyaà vinirdiçet|| Meaning if Lagnadhipaty is in 4th aspected by benefics or conjoined with benefics or in Paaravata and other benefic Vaisheshikamsas,then also the native will be a Nishkapati. l¶e guraE danv pUijtenyu´e tdatSyivzuÏ icÄ<, suoe zuÉe tÑvnaixnawe zuÉaiNvte tSyivzuÏicÄ<. lagne gurau dänava püjitenayukte tadätasyaviçuddha cittaà| sukhe çubhe tadbhavanädhinäthe çubhänvite tasyaviçuddhacittaà|| Meaning if Guru is conjoined with Shukra in Lagna or 4th is occupied by a benefic planet and if 4th lord is conjoined with benefics,then also the native is of pure good heart ( Nishkapati ). I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: Dear Jyotishis, Malefics in the fourth house in Navamsa, I believe, can show what lies in the person's heart. Benefics there will give Nishkapata Yoga, those who are incapable of deceit and have a clean heart. Can anyone elaborate on this further? Best regards, Sarbani saaji kulangara [saajik] Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:57 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Intent in relationships. Dear Lakshmiji,<<How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?>>If you are thinking about marriage, the very steps of marriage matching, considers all probabilities in the relation. The four factors and points in Vashya, Gana etc cover everything like harmony, private life etc;. If any person's horoscope fingers to the complications you mentioned, then I'm afraid the only way out is reducing them as the horoscope and Dasha indications are fixed in nature. It'll happen in someway or other. The 7th is the house of marriage hence malefics in the 6th, 8th (2nd and 12th for the spouse) or malefics associated with these lords will adversely affect kalatra bhava, hence the native may not get happiness from spouse. Same holds true for 7th house also. This may lead the spouse to wrong thinking. A malefic in the 9th house could again adversely affect the spouse as it's the 3rd house from 7th. 11th is important since it's the 5th fm 7th. Etc; I see intentions and other things from 7th lord and Venus. By merging Dasha and transits. If the chart of the partner is available then it'll be more effective.If the matter is selecting good friends, the basic point is Lagna and Moon. A good Moon means a good mind. Any malefic association or paapakartari yoga is bad and this can mean someone cultivates relations in order to utilize them in someway or other. Rahu occupying Lagna, 4th, 10th or aspecting Lagna lord can bring in hypocrisy. Motives can be understood by studying the chart. It's said that friendships occur when the Dasa lords of two natives occupy the same sign or they are Lagna and 7th lords or benefics etc; and the friendships break in the Dasha of malefics afflicting the Lagna, 7th, Moon sign etc; Here also a good Moon helps to take things lightly or recover fast. A malefic association may resort to revenge etc;Warm Regards,Saajivarahamihira , "lakshmikary" <lakshmikary> wrote:> > Hare Krishna> Dear SJC gurus and friends,> How do we see the INTENT/motivation for a relationhsip?> Whether it be business , marraige etc,> Do we look to teh 11th from that house,> any knowledge you have please share,> also im aware to see what a person likes or dislikes in spouse but im > looking for motivating force in teh desire to match up or be involved > with someone,> Im hearing more and more stories of innocent people being totally > taken by their spouses,through divorce, a number of cases seem to be > schemed/plotted ahead of time(as in the case of Mukund and many many > others)> I would appreciate it if we can go into this a bit and beable to WARN > people ahead of time what they maybe getting in to some troubles and > thus protect their assets and such things..> 8thhouse can show what one gets for divorce, etc,> anybody who would liek to contribute these points for everyone i > appreciate it,, please send your realizations and knowledge,> It really pains me to hear these stories of innocent , nice young men > who in trust and faith shared what they have with some women who then > comes and stays long enough to get a usa status and then sues for all > teh poor guy is worth,even to the extent to try and take property > from his parents!!!(while he works his ass off and she behind his > back is polluting kids mind about him)etc etc, Im sure there are > cases of women being abused,but RARELY do you hear the viciousness of > the level of some of these women,> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> P.S. 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Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 On subject line, the notion of intent(ion) is one of many descriptions of any action. In order to come to grips with description, it is imperative to make a distinction between description and phenomenon: Take the example of a stone dropped from a tower. It falls until it hits the ground. Imagine three descriptions of this phenomenon. The first says that the stone falls because it is in love with earth. The second says that the stone falls because objects strive to return to their natural position in the world. The third says that the stone falls because of the gravitational forces acting upon it. In other words, intentional description of any human action is *not* THAT cause, but, philosophically speaking, a mere redescription. Lets consider the action: when I enters my friend's home, I ask him to not smoke infront of me. If it is asked 'why', many of 'modern' humans tend to give this answer: smoking is injurious to health. In contradistiction to 'modern' and 'rational' mind, I say: I cant stand the smell of cigar smoke, hence my asking him to not smoke. The former one(injurious to health, yadda yadda) is a redescription of an action, not cause. It is as simple as that. Subsequently, one can have zillions of redescriptions for one action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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