Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Dear Kanupriya, >I would appreciate any refrences, reading >material or guidance on this topic. Please see the later chapters of Jaimini Upadesa Sutras by Sanjay Rath. It has a lot of info on what to avoid in nisheka lagna charts. Especially avoid Moon's conjunction with malefics in 4th or 9th house. The aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in 2nd or trines from Shodya Rasi is also very bad. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotishi http://www.radhadesh.com http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html http://.org/education/dhira_krsna_das.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye NamahDear Dhira, Thanks alot for your help. I hope I can ask you more in case of any doubts. Will be reading on this soon. Best Regards, Kanupriya.Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS wrote: Dear Kanupriya,>I would appreciate any refrences, reading>material or guidance on this topic.Please see the later chapters of Jaimini Upadesa Sutras by Sanjay Rath. Ithas a lot of info on what to avoid in nisheka lagna charts. Especiallyavoid Moon's conjunction with malefics in 4th or 9th house.The aspect of Jupiter on Saturn in 2nd or trines from Shodya Rasi is alsovery bad.Yours,Dhira Krsna dasa,Jyotishihttp://www.radhadesh.comhttp://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.htmlhttp://.org/education/dhira_krsna_das.html|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Make your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, Sorry for the delay in my mail.Here are my views about Nisheka Lagna Muhurta and its details as per Muhurta Classics : MARRIAGE- NISHEKA (FIRST SEXUAL UNION) Nakshatra : Rohini, Uttaraphalguni, Hasta, Svati, Anuradha, Mula, Uttarashadha, Sravana, Satabhisha, Uttarabhadrapada and Revati are favorable. Ashvini, Mrigashira, Punarvasu, Pushya, Chitra, and Dhanishta are middling. The remaining should be avoided. Tara : The Janma Nakshatra and the 10th and 19th from there should particularly be avoided. Tithi : All Tithis except the 4th, 8th, 9th, 14th and 15th are favorable. Vara : Avoid the Varas of malefics. Lagna : Vrishabha, Mithuna, Kataka, Simha, Kanya, Tula and Meena are favorable while the others should be avoided. If there is no planet in the 8th house, then Dhanu and Kumbha are okay. Navamsha: The Navamshas of the Chandra, Budha, Guru and Shukra are favorable, while those of Shani, Kuja and the Surya should be avoided. Bhavas : The Lagna and 8th should be unoccupied. (Some astrologers emphasize that the Lagna must not be occupied, others emphasize that the 8th should be vacant. A malefic should certainly not be in the Lagna, and as a general rule the 8th shouldbe unoccupied.) The 7th House determines the nature of the intercourse. Malefics influencing indicate that the union will be consummated under, or after quarrelling. Benefics influencing indicate that the union will be happy. The sexual union resembles the Rashi of the 7th. Other Informations : Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. According to Kalaprakasika: "The bedchamber should be in a comfortable place decorated and kept fragrant with sandalwood, flowers etc, and provided with water taken from sacred rivers. Above all, there should be nothing to disturb the peace of mind of the couple." Menses: If the woman's menses begins while the Moon is in an Anupachaya (Houses other than 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th) aspected by or joined with Kuja, the menses can result in conception. If menses occurs when the Chandra is in an Upachaya, conception is not likely to occur. Ritu Dina (Days of the Woman's Menstrual Cycle) Sexual intercourse during each of the sixteen days from the first day of the menstrual period is said to have a specific effect. Intercourse during odd days tends to create female children, on even days male children. Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. Intercourse on the fifth day gives birth to a daughter; the sixth day favors a son who promotes posterity; the seventh day brings forth a daughter who will not bear children; the eighth day gives birth to a noble son; the ninth day gives birth to a wicked girl; the tenth day promises a praiseworthy son; the eleventh day gives birth to an unrighteous girl; the twelfth day grants a virtuous son; the thirteenth day grants a virtuous daughter; the fourteenth gives birth to a son rich in grains and gold; the fifteenth day brings forth a daughter that will not live long; and the sixteenth day gives birth to a son of all-embracing intelligence. Sexual union should be indulged in only on days that bear favorable results so that the progeny may be noble. Planetary Lords of the Months of Pregnancy A particular planet rules each month of pregnancy, and during each month different primary development occurs: Month Lord Primary Development 1st Month Shukra Union of sperm and ovum 2nd Month Kuja Solidification of embryo 3rd Month Guru Sprouting of organs and body parts 4th Month Surya Bone formation 5th Month Chandra Skin formation 6th Month Shani Hair 7th Month Budha Sensation 8th Month Lagna Lord Hunger and thirst 9th Month Chandra Desire to leave the womb 10th Month Surya Prasava (delivery) In the 1st month, union of the male fluid and female fluid take place; this is the most "liquid" state that the embryo will be in. Shukra rules the sperm and fluids in the body and thus Venus rules this first month. In the 2nd month the embryo solidifies into a fetus, and becomes a compact mass with all of its organs minutely formed. Kuja rules this small, contracted mass. In the 3rd month the organs and limbs sprout to more significant proportions and the sex of the child is determined. Guru rules this month during which the compact mass begins to first significantly expand. During the 4th month bone formation is primary, rule by the Surya, the lord of the bones. In the 5th month, governed by the Chandra, the skin surrounding the organs and the body form, resulting in greater self-consciousness. In the 6th month hair growth is significant and the nervous system leading to the skin is fully developed. Shani, lord of nerves, rules the 6th month. In the 7th month, ruled by Budha, the fetus becomes sensitive to its surroundings and begins to cognize. In the 8th month the infant becomes very aware of the sensation of hunger and thirst, takes more in through the umbilical cord and begins the final huge growth spurt. The 8th month is ruled by the Lagna lord, the lord of the body, which is then growing rapidly. In the 9th month, ruled by the Chandra, there is excitement, movement and the desire to leave the womb, and in the 10th month, ruled by the Surya, the fetus separates from its mother and individuality is born. The months of which the lords are weak or afflicted become difficult months in the pregnancy, and the months during which abortion may occur. Planets most like to cause miscarriage are those weak, combust or afflicted by malefics and in a malefic Rashi, inimical Rashi, debilitation, or with a malefic in the Navamsha If a planet is weak at the time of impregnation, then the development that occurs in its month will be low, or problematic. From the third month onwards the woman develops tastes to eat according to the disposition of the monthly lords. Combinations Conception The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that conception will or won't occur: 1. Guru in the 1st, 5th or 9th indicates that conception will occur. 2. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Kuja in own Navamshas and not combust indicate that conception will occur, especially if they are in Upachayas. 3. If the transiting Surya and Shukra are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the man's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 4. If the transiting Chandra and Kuja are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the woman's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 5. The transiting Chandra in an Upachaya in the woman's horoscope joined or aspected by a male planet leads to conception. 6. The Chandra and a male planet in the Lagna indicate that conception is likely. 7. Jupiter in own Rashi or Navamsha on a favorable Vara indicates that conception is likely. 8. The Surya, Chandra and Shukra in malefic Rashis or inimical Rashis while other planets are in benefic Rashis indicate that conception will not occur unless Guru is in the Lagna. Abortion 1. If a planet is overcome in war, combust or afflicted, miscarriage may take place in the month of the defeated planet. 2. Shani and Kuja in the Lagna cause miscarriage. 3. The Chandra in the Rashi or Kuja or Shani may cause miscarriage. Safe Pregnancy 1. The Chandra in the Lagna indicates a safe pregnancy. 2. Budha, Guru, Shukra or the Surya aspecting the Lagna indicate a safe pregnancy. 3. If benefics join the Lagna and Chandra, or if the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th from them are occupied by benefics, or if malefics are in the 3rd and 11th, while the Surya aspects the Lagna or the Chandra (some sources want the malefics in the 3rd and 11th to be aspected by the Sun), the pregnancy will be safe and happy. (The more of these indications the better the pregnancy.) Harm to the Couple The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that harm will befall one of the couple. These harmful results occur in the month of the planet (as given above) that is weak or afflicted. 1. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Surya indicates that the man will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Surya, the man will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Surya while the other aspects, the man will die. 2. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Chandra indicates that the woman will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Chandra, the woman will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Chandra while the other aspects, the woman will die. 3. Malefics in the 12th without benefic aspect indicates that the woman dies. 4. Shani in the Lagna aspected by Kuja or the malefic Chandra indicates that the woman dies. 5. If both the Lagna and Chandra are hemmed by malefics, the woman dies in pregnancy. 6. If, from the Lagna or the Chandra, malefics are in the 4th and Kuja is in the 8th, the woman dies. 7. If the Surya and Kuja are in the 4th and 12th while the Chandra is a malefic, the woman dies. 8. If Kuja is in the 1st and the Surya in the 7th, the woman dies by weapons. 9. The Surya and Chandra are hemmed between malefics when the Lagna is not aspected by a benefic indicates that the woman dies. 10. The Lagna and 7th occupied by malefics with no benefic aspects indicates that the woman dies. 11. Shani and the malefic Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Kuja indicate that the woman dies. 12. The Surya and Chandra in the 12th when Kuja is in the 4th and Shukra is between malefics indicates that the woman dies. 13. The child in the womb and the mother die if malefics are in the 4th from the Lagna or Chandra while Kuja is in the 7th from the Lagna. 14. Kuja in the 4th, the Surya in the 12th, and the Chandra waning with malefics aspecting indicates that the child in the womb and the mother die. 15. The Surya in the Lagna when the Chandra is weak indicate that child in the womb and the mother die. 16. Kuja in the Lagna with malefics in the 2nd and 12th without benefic aspect indicate that the child in the womb and the mother die. 17. If impregnation occurs in the day, the Surya is the Father, Shukra the mother, Shani the paternal uncle and the Chandra the maternal uncle. If at night, Shani is the father, the Chandra the mother, the Surya the paternal uncle and Shukra the maternal aunt. If the planet representing the father or paternal uncle is in odd Rasi, then the father or paternal uncle's well-being is there. If the planet representing the mother or maternal aunt is in an even Rasi, then the mother or maternal aunt's well-being is there. If opposite, they will not be well and other afflictions will have a greater toll. Sex of Child 1. Male planets aspecting the Lagna on even days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to male children. Female planets aspecting the Lagna on odd days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to female children. 2. If the Lagna, Surya, Chandra and Guru are in odd Rasis or Navamshas, the child is male. If in even Rashis or Navamshas, the child is female. 3. If Shukra, Kuja and the Chandra are in even Rasis, the child is female. 4. Shani in odd Bhavas, other than the Lagna, gives male children, in even Bhavas, female children. 5. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a son. 6. The Surya and Shukra in the Rashis of benefics give birth to a male. 7. The Surya and Chandra in Mulatrikona and weak give a female birth. 8. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in the Lagna aspected by or joined with Kuja gives birth to a son. 9. The Lagna and 5th lord joined, mutually aspecting or interchanged gives birth to a male child. 10. Budha in the 5th alone and unaspected gives birth to a male child. 11. All the male planets in the 6th and/or 11th while the 5th lord is strong gives birth to a male child. 12. All seven planets in odd Rasis gives birth to a male child. 13. The Surya and Guru strong and in the Vargas of the Surya give birth to a male child. 14. A strong male planet in an odd Rashi or Navamsha, joined with the Chandra and aspected by a male planet, in exaltation, or in an angle gives birth to a male. 15. A strong male planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a male planet produces a male child. A female planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a female planet produces a female child. 16. Kuja, Shukra and the Chandra in the Vargas of the Chandra when the Chandra is weak give birth to a female child. 17. Shukra and the Chandra joined in the 5th or 10th gives birth to a female child. 18. Shukra and the Chandra in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a female child. 19. Rahu in the Lagna aspected by the Chandra, or the Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Rahu gives birth to a female child. 20. Shukra in an angle or in the Hora of the Chandra gives birth to a female child. 21. If the Chandra and Shukra are prominent, the child is female. 22. Male planets in odd Rasihs and Navamshas give birth to a male child. Female planets in even Rashis and Navamshas give birth to a female. 23. The Navamsha Lagna with a male planet gives birth to a male, with a female planet to a female. 24. The Lagna in a feminine Navamsha gives birth to a female, in a male Navamsha a male. 25. The Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some), or Shani and Budha in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some) indicate that a eunuch will be born. (Eunuch need not necessarily refer to a true eunuch, but can be a barren, sterile or impotent person, or a homosexual.) Some sources require the birth to be during the daytime for the Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect to give a eunuch, and for the birth to be in the night time for Shani and Budha in mutual aspect to give birth to a eunuch. 26. If Kuja is in an odd Rashi and aspects the Surya, which is in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 27. If the Chandra and Lagna are in odd Rashis aspected by Kuja in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 28. If the Chandra is in an even Rashi and Budha in an odd Rashi and if they are both aspected by Kuja, a eunuch will be born. 29. If Shukra, the Lagna and the Chandra are in male Navamshas, a eunuch will be born. 30. The Lagna, Chandra and Budha in odd Rashis and odd Navamshas aspected by Shukra and Shani indicate the birth of a eunuch. 31. Shani and Kuja in their own Navamshas, or on angles, or in the Navamhsa of the Lagna and the Chandra, or if they are aspecting the Lagna and the Chandra, indicate a eunuch. If Shani and Budha are in male Rashis and Navamshas the eunuch will have a male form, if in even Rashis and Navamshas a female form. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Gurus, I have often being asked by couples about the best time to conceive a baby.Offcourse I doubt one can control this but this makes me think of the Nishekha Lagna.How does one select this chart? Are the general Mahurata rules applied? In this case Jupiter being the karayesh should be strong, 5th house should be empty and no planets in the 8th house.What other principles does one apply? What about the Tithi? I would appreciate any refrences, reading material or guidance on this topic. Thanking you. Best Regards, Kanupriya. |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Thankyou very much for this huge help.I am writing something on this topic and also studying a few charts.I have written a few lines about the significance of this chart.I request all the Gurus to please read below and correct any mistakes.I will present the whole article once I am done.Thankyou again. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Nishekha Lagna The Natal Chart is drawn from the moment of the native’s birth as this is the first moment of the independent existence of the lagna and will indicate about the native’s physical health and comforts in this abode. So is this the first moment of the birth of a new soul in this world? The Bhagwat Geeta states that the ‘Atma never dies and is part of the Para atma with the difference being that the ‘Jeeva’ is attached to the atma. We in this abode are thus driven by the Jeeva shakti which helps us identify ourselves. The ‘I’ constantly drive us as long as we live but who is this ‘I’? When we feel depressed or angry there is a voice in our heads telling us at times, ’No point being this angry, do not be rash’ if the ‘I’ is angry then who is the guiding voice? Perhaps there is more to this ‘I’. As per the Bhagwat Geeta our ‘I’ consists of: · Atma-Soul · Indriyas –Senses · Mana-Mind · Buddhi- Intellegence As we experience life this perception of life changes or shifts from any of the above ‘I’ s. The illusions created drive us and we live in the cycle of various births. It is this cycle of re-birth that connects everything we do and our own actions and reactions become the Karmic pattern or cycle. We take several births as we move through the different stages of evolution with in this cycle. Hence each human being born is a soul that has come back with its own karmic pattern. The moment of the real birth in the mrtyu loka is the moment the soul becomes a ‘Jeeva atma’ and enters a mother’s womb. This moment is the first moment of existence. This is the moment of the conception. The chart drawn for this moment is called the Adhana or the conception Chart. The parents we are born to is naturally as per our own karmic patterns and cycles. The couple seeking a child will also conceive the child as per their own karmic cycle. The sages understood the importance of this one moment of conception. In the ancient times when the nations had to be ruled by that one King and the birth of a good healthy prince was crucial these charts had a key role. Kings and queens seeked the guidance of the Maharishis of their Kula to come together at an auspicious moment so that a perfect ruler can be born. This lead to a further study and the moment of the coming together of the parents became very important. The King would appoint the Kula gurus to calculate that moment that lead to a fruitful conception of a baby. At times the calculations had to be made so that a male heir was born. The chart drawn for this auspicious moment of inter course is called the Nishekha Lagna. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, Sorry for the delay in my mail.Here are my views about Nisheka Lagna Muhurta and its details as per Muhurta Classics : MARRIAGE- NISHEKA (FIRST SEXUAL UNION) Nakshatra : Rohini, Uttaraphalguni, Hasta, Svati, Anuradha, Mula, Uttarashadha, Sravana, Satabhisha, Uttarabhadrapada and Revati are favorable. Ashvini, Mrigashira, Punarvasu, Pushya, Chitra, and Dhanishta are middling. The remaining should be avoided. Tara : The Janma Nakshatra and the 10th and 19th from there should particularly be avoided. Tithi : All Tithis except the 4th, 8th, 9th, 14th and 15th are favorable. Vara : Avoid the Varas of malefics. Lagna : Vrishabha, Mithuna, Kataka, Simha, Kanya, Tula and Meena are favorable while the others should be avoided. If there is no planet in the 8th house, then Dhanu and Kumbha are okay. Navamsha: The Navamshas of the Chandra, Budha, Guru and Shukra are favorable, while those of Shani, Kuja and the Surya should be avoided. Bhavas : The Lagna and 8th should be unoccupied. (Some astrologers emphasize that the Lagna must not be occupied, others emphasize that the 8th should be vacant. A malefic should certainly not be in the Lagna, and as a general rule the 8th shouldbe unoccupied.) The 7th House determines the nature of the intercourse. Malefics influencing indicate that the union will be consummated under, or after quarrelling. Benefics influencing indicate that the union will be happy. The sexual union resembles the Rashi of the 7th. Other Informations : Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. According to Kalaprakasika: "The bedchamber should be in a comfortable place decorated and kept fragrant with sandalwood, flowers etc, and provided with water taken from sacred rivers. Above all, there should be nothing to disturb the peace of mind of the couple." Menses: If the woman's menses begins while the Moon is in an Anupachaya (Houses other than 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th) aspected by or joined with Kuja, the menses can result in conception. If menses occurs when the Chandra is in an Upachaya, conception is not likely to occur. Ritu Dina (Days of the Woman's Menstrual Cycle) Sexual intercourse during each of the sixteen days from the first day of the menstrual period is said to have a specific effect. Intercourse during odd days tends to create female children, on even days male children. Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. Intercourse on the fifth day gives birth to a daughter; the sixth day favors a son who promotes posterity; the seventh day brings forth a daughter who will not bear children; the eighth day gives birth to a noble son; the ninth day gives birth to a wicked girl; the tenth day promises a praiseworthy son; the eleventh day gives birth to an unrighteous girl; the twelfth day grants a virtuous son; the thirteenth day grants a virtuous daughter; the fourteenth gives birth to a son rich in grains and gold; the fifteenth day brings forth a daughter that will not live long; and the sixteenth day gives birth to a son of all-embracing intelligence. Sexual union should be indulged in only on days that bear favorable results so that the progeny may be noble. Planetary Lords of the Months of Pregnancy A particular planet rules each month of pregnancy, and during each month different primary development occurs: Month Lord Primary Development 1st Month Shukra Union of sperm and ovum 2nd Month Kuja Solidification of embryo 3rd Month Guru Sprouting of organs and body parts 4th Month Surya Bone formation 5th Month Chandra Skin formation 6th Month Shani Hair 7th Month Budha Sensation 8th Month Lagna Lord Hunger and thirst 9th Month Chandra Desire to leave the womb 10th Month Surya Prasava (delivery) In the 1st month, union of the male fluid and female fluid take place; this is the most "liquid" state that the embryo will be in. Shukra rules the sperm and fluids in the body and thus Venus rules this first month. In the 2nd month the embryo solidifies into a fetus, and becomes a compact mass with all of its organs minutely formed. Kuja rules this small, contracted mass. In the 3rd month the organs and limbs sprout to more significant proportions and the sex of the child is determined. Guru rules this month during which the compact mass begins to first significantly expand. During the 4th month bone formation is primary, rule by the Surya, the lord of the bones. In the 5th month, governed by the Chandra, the skin surrounding the organs and the body form, resulting in greater self-consciousness. In the 6th month hair growth is significant and the nervous system leading to the skin is fully developed. Shani, lord of nerves, rules the 6th month. In the 7th month, ruled by Budha, the fetus becomes sensitive to its surroundings and begins to cognize. In the 8th month the infant becomes very aware of the sensation of hunger and thirst, takes more in through the umbilical cord and begins the final huge growth spurt. The 8th month is ruled by the Lagna lord, the lord of the body, which is then growing rapidly. In the 9th month, ruled by the Chandra, there is excitement, movement and the desire to leave the womb, and in the 10th month, ruled by the Surya, the fetus separates from its mother and individuality is born. The months of which the lords are weak or afflicted become difficult months in the pregnancy, and the months during which abortion may occur. Planets most like to cause miscarriage are those weak, combust or afflicted by malefics and in a malefic Rashi, inimical Rashi, debilitation, or with a malefic in the Navamsha If a planet is weak at the time of impregnation, then the development that occurs in its month will be low, or problematic. From the third month onwards the woman develops tastes to eat according to the disposition of the monthly lords. Combinations Conception The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that conception will or won't occur: 1. Guru in the 1st, 5th or 9th indicates that conception will occur. 2. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Kuja in own Navamshas and not combust indicate that conception will occur, especially if they are in Upachayas. 3. If the transiting Surya and Shukra are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the man's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 4. If the transiting Chandra and Kuja are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the woman's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 5. The transiting Chandra in an Upachaya in the woman's horoscope joined or aspected by a male planet leads to conception. 6. The Chandra and a male planet in the Lagna indicate that conception is likely. 7. Jupiter in own Rashi or Navamsha on a favorable Vara indicates that conception is likely. 8. The Surya, Chandra and Shukra in malefic Rashis or inimical Rashis while other planets are in benefic Rashis indicate that conception will not occur unless Guru is in the Lagna. Abortion 1. If a planet is overcome in war, combust or afflicted, miscarriage may take place in the month of the defeated planet. 2. Shani and Kuja in the Lagna cause miscarriage. 3. The Chandra in the Rashi or Kuja or Shani may cause miscarriage. Safe Pregnancy 1. The Chandra in the Lagna indicates a safe pregnancy. 2. Budha, Guru, Shukra or the Surya aspecting the Lagna indicate a safe pregnancy. 3. If benefics join the Lagna and Chandra, or if the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th from them are occupied by benefics, or if malefics are in the 3rd and 11th, while the Surya aspects the Lagna or the Chandra (some sources want the malefics in the 3rd and 11th to be aspected by the Sun), the pregnancy will be safe and happy. (The more of these indications the better the pregnancy.) Harm to the Couple The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that harm will befall one of the couple. These harmful results occur in the month of the planet (as given above) that is weak or afflicted. 1. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Surya indicates that the man will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Surya, the man will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Surya while the other aspects, the man will die. 2. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Chandra indicates that the woman will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Chandra, the woman will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Chandra while the other aspects, the woman will die. 3. Malefics in the 12th without benefic aspect indicates that the woman dies. 4. Shani in the Lagna aspected by Kuja or the malefic Chandra indicates that the woman dies. 5. If both the Lagna and Chandra are hemmed by malefics, the woman dies in pregnancy. 6. If, from the Lagna or the Chandra, malefics are in the 4th and Kuja is in the 8th, the woman dies. 7. If the Surya and Kuja are in the 4th and 12th while the Chandra is a malefic, the woman dies. 8. If Kuja is in the 1st and the Surya in the 7th, the woman dies by weapons. 9. The Surya and Chandra are hemmed between malefics when the Lagna is not aspected by a benefic indicates that the woman dies. 10. The Lagna and 7th occupied by malefics with no benefic aspects indicates that the woman dies. 11. Shani and the malefic Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Kuja indicate that the woman dies. 12. The Surya and Chandra in the 12th when Kuja is in the 4th and Shukra is between malefics indicates that the woman dies. 13. The child in the womb and the mother die if malefics are in the 4th from the Lagna or Chandra while Kuja is in the 7th from the Lagna. 14. Kuja in the 4th, the Surya in the 12th, and the Chandra waning with malefics aspecting indicates that the child in the womb and the mother die. 15. The Surya in the Lagna when the Chandra is weak indicate that child in the womb and the mother die. 16. Kuja in the Lagna with malefics in the 2nd and 12th without benefic aspect indicate that the child in the womb and the mother die. 17. If impregnation occurs in the day, the Surya is the Father, Shukra the mother, Shani the paternal uncle and the Chandra the maternal uncle. If at night, Shani is the father, the Chandra the mother, the Surya the paternal uncle and Shukra the maternal aunt. If the planet representing the father or paternal uncle is in odd Rasi, then the father or paternal uncle's well-being is there. If the planet representing the mother or maternal aunt is in an even Rasi, then the mother or maternal aunt's well-being is there. If opposite, they will not be well and other afflictions will have a greater toll. Sex of Child 1. Male planets aspecting the Lagna on even days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to male children. Female planets aspecting the Lagna on odd days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to female children. 2. If the Lagna, Surya, Chandra and Guru are in odd Rasis or Navamshas, the child is male. If in even Rashis or Navamshas, the child is female. 3. If Shukra, Kuja and the Chandra are in even Rasis, the child is female. 4. Shani in odd Bhavas, other than the Lagna, gives male children, in even Bhavas, female children. 5. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a son. 6. The Surya and Shukra in the Rashis of benefics give birth to a male. 7. The Surya and Chandra in Mulatrikona and weak give a female birth. 8. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in the Lagna aspected by or joined with Kuja gives birth to a son. 9. The Lagna and 5th lord joined, mutually aspecting or interchanged gives birth to a male child. 10. Budha in the 5th alone and unaspected gives birth to a male child. 11. All the male planets in the 6th and/or 11th while the 5th lord is strong gives birth to a male child. 12. All seven planets in odd Rasis gives birth to a male child. 13. The Surya and Guru strong and in the Vargas of the Surya give birth to a male child. 14. A strong male planet in an odd Rashi or Navamsha, joined with the Chandra and aspected by a male planet, in exaltation, or in an angle gives birth to a male. 15. A strong male planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a male planet produces a male child. A female planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a female planet produces a female child. 16. Kuja, Shukra and the Chandra in the Vargas of the Chandra when the Chandra is weak give birth to a female child. 17. Shukra and the Chandra joined in the 5th or 10th gives birth to a female child. 18. Shukra and the Chandra in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a female child. 19. Rahu in the Lagna aspected by the Chandra, or the Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Rahu gives birth to a female child. 20. Shukra in an angle or in the Hora of the Chandra gives birth to a female child. 21. If the Chandra and Shukra are prominent, the child is female. 22. Male planets in odd Rasihs and Navamshas give birth to a male child. Female planets in even Rashis and Navamshas give birth to a female. 23. The Navamsha Lagna with a male planet gives birth to a male, with a female planet to a female. 24. The Lagna in a feminine Navamsha gives birth to a female, in a male Navamsha a male. 25. The Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some), or Shani and Budha in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some) indicate that a eunuch will be born. (Eunuch need not necessarily refer to a true eunuch, but can be a barren, sterile or impotent person, or a homosexual.) Some sources require the birth to be during the daytime for the Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect to give a eunuch, and for the birth to be in the night time for Shani and Budha in mutual aspect to give birth to a eunuch. 26. If Kuja is in an odd Rashi and aspects the Surya, which is in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 27. If the Chandra and Lagna are in odd Rashis aspected by Kuja in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 28. If the Chandra is in an even Rashi and Budha in an odd Rashi and if they are both aspected by Kuja, a eunuch will be born. 29. If Shukra, the Lagna and the Chandra are in male Navamshas, a eunuch will be born. 30. The Lagna, Chandra and Budha in odd Rashis and odd Navamshas aspected by Shukra and Shani indicate the birth of a eunuch. 31. Shani and Kuja in their own Navamshas, or on angles, or in the Navamhsa of the Lagna and the Chandra, or if they are aspecting the Lagna and the Chandra, indicate a eunuch. If Shani and Budha are in male Rashis and Navamshas the eunuch will have a male form, if in even Rashis and Navamshas a female form. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Gurus, I have often being asked by couples about the best time to conceive a baby.Offcourse I doubt one can control this but this makes me think of the Nishekha Lagna.How does one select this chart? Are the general Mahurata rules applied? In this case Jupiter being the karayesh should be strong, 5th house should be empty and no planets in the 8th house.What other principles does one apply? What about the Tithi? I would appreciate any refrences, reading material or guidance on this topic. Thanking you. Best Regards, Kanupriya. |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya, Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? I guess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest that it's the former. And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms... there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, that is) can biologically conceive with no intercourse. Cheers, Ramapriya ayirpamar On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: > Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Ramapriya, The conception chart is called the Aadhna Chart and is different than the Nishekha chart which is for the inter course. .. Best wishes, Kanupriya.Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya,Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? Iguess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest thatit's the former.And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms...there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, thatis) can biologically conceive with no intercourse.Cheers,RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priya<kanupriya003 wrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Moments after I posted, I looked up aryabhatt.com and came up with this: " ADANA LAGNA: Also known as Nisheka Lagna. Ascendant at the moment of impregnation. " It isn't intercourse either, it's impregnation. Makes sense too, that way Ramapriya ayirpamar On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:18:40 -0800 (PST), kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: > Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah > Dear Ramapriya, > The conception chart is called the Aadhna Chart > and is different than the Nishekha chart which is for the inter course. > . > Best wishes, > Kanupriya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, That is a good introduction for an article.Continue the article and God's Blessings will be upon you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Thankyou very much for this huge help.I am writing something on this topic and also studying a few charts.I have written a few lines about the significance of this chart.I request all the Gurus to please read below and correct any mistakes.I will present the whole article once I am done.Thankyou again. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Nishekha Lagna The Natal Chart is drawn from the moment of the native’s birth as this is the first moment of the independent existence of the lagna and will indicate about the native’s physical health and comforts in this abode. So is this the first moment of the birth of a new soul in this world? The Bhagwat Geeta states that the ‘Atma never dies and is part of the Para atma with the difference being that the ‘Jeeva’ is attached to the atma. We in this abode are thus driven by the Jeeva shakti which helps us identify ourselves. The ‘I’ constantly drive us as long as we live but who is this ‘I’? When we feel depressed or angry there is a voice in our heads telling us at times, ’No point being this angry, do not be rash’ if the ‘I’ is angry then who is the guiding voice? Perhaps there is more to this ‘I’. As per the Bhagwat Geeta our ‘I’ consists of: · Atma-Soul · Indriyas –Senses · Mana-Mind · Buddhi- Intellegence As we experience life this perception of life changes or shifts from any of the above ‘I’ s. The illusions created drive us and we live in the cycle of various births. It is this cycle of re-birth that connects everything we do and our own actions and reactions become the Karmic pattern or cycle. We take several births as we move through the different stages of evolution with in this cycle. Hence each human being born is a soul that has come back with its own karmic pattern. The moment of the real birth in the mrtyu loka is the moment the soul becomes a ‘Jeeva atma’ and enters a mother’s womb. This moment is the first moment of existence. This is the moment of the conception. The chart drawn for this moment is called the Adhana or the conception Chart. The parents we are born to is naturally as per our own karmic patterns and cycles. The couple seeking a child will also conceive the child as per their own karmic cycle. The sages understood the importance of this one moment of conception. In the ancient times when the nations had to be ruled by that one King and the birth of a good healthy prince was crucial these charts had a key role. Kings and queens seeked the guidance of the Maharishis of their Kula to come together at an auspicious moment so that a perfect ruler can be born. This lead to a further study and the moment of the coming together of the parents became very important. The King would appoint the Kula gurus to calculate that moment that lead to a fruitful conception of a baby. At times the calculations had to be made so that a male heir was born. The chart drawn for this auspicious moment of inter course is called the Nishekha Lagna. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, Sorry for the delay in my mail.Here are my views about Nisheka Lagna Muhurta and its details as per Muhurta Classics : MARRIAGE- NISHEKA (FIRST SEXUAL UNION) Nakshatra : Rohini, Uttaraphalguni, Hasta, Svati, Anuradha, Mula, Uttarashadha, Sravana, Satabhisha, Uttarabhadrapada and Revati are favorable. Ashvini, Mrigashira, Punarvasu, Pushya, Chitra, and Dhanishta are middling. The remaining should be avoided. Tara : The Janma Nakshatra and the 10th and 19th from there should particularly be avoided. Tithi : All Tithis except the 4th, 8th, 9th, 14th and 15th are favorable. Vara : Avoid the Varas of malefics. Lagna : Vrishabha, Mithuna, Kataka, Simha, Kanya, Tula and Meena are favorable while the others should be avoided. If there is no planet in the 8th house, then Dhanu and Kumbha are okay. Navamsha: The Navamshas of the Chandra, Budha, Guru and Shukra are favorable, while those of Shani, Kuja and the Surya should be avoided. Bhavas : The Lagna and 8th should be unoccupied. (Some astrologers emphasize that the Lagna must not be occupied, others emphasize that the 8th should be vacant. A malefic should certainly not be in the Lagna, and as a general rule the 8th shouldbe unoccupied.) The 7th House determines the nature of the intercourse. Malefics influencing indicate that the union will be consummated under, or after quarrelling. Benefics influencing indicate that the union will be happy. The sexual union resembles the Rashi of the 7th. Other Informations : Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. According to Kalaprakasika: "The bedchamber should be in a comfortable place decorated and kept fragrant with sandalwood, flowers etc, and provided with water taken from sacred rivers. Above all, there should be nothing to disturb the peace of mind of the couple." Menses: If the woman's menses begins while the Moon is in an Anupachaya (Houses other than 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th) aspected by or joined with Kuja, the menses can result in conception. If menses occurs when the Chandra is in an Upachaya, conception is not likely to occur. Ritu Dina (Days of the Woman's Menstrual Cycle) Sexual intercourse during each of the sixteen days from the first day of the menstrual period is said to have a specific effect. Intercourse during odd days tends to create female children, on even days male children. Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. Intercourse on the fifth day gives birth to a daughter; the sixth day favors a son who promotes posterity; the seventh day brings forth a daughter who will not bear children; the eighth day gives birth to a noble son; the ninth day gives birth to a wicked girl; the tenth day promises a praiseworthy son; the eleventh day gives birth to an unrighteous girl; the twelfth day grants a virtuous son; the thirteenth day grants a virtuous daughter; the fourteenth gives birth to a son rich in grains and gold; the fifteenth day brings forth a daughter that will not live long; and the sixteenth day gives birth to a son of all-embracing intelligence. Sexual union should be indulged in only on days that bear favorable results so that the progeny may be noble. Planetary Lords of the Months of Pregnancy A particular planet rules each month of pregnancy, and during each month different primary development occurs: Month Lord Primary Development 1st Month Shukra Union of sperm and ovum 2nd Month Kuja Solidification of embryo 3rd Month Guru Sprouting of organs and body parts 4th Month Surya Bone formation 5th Month Chandra Skin formation 6th Month Shani Hair 7th Month Budha Sensation 8th Month Lagna Lord Hunger and thirst 9th Month Chandra Desire to leave the womb 10th Month Surya Prasava (delivery) In the 1st month, union of the male fluid and female fluid take place; this is the most "liquid" state that the embryo will be in. Shukra rules the sperm and fluids in the body and thus Venus rules this first month. In the 2nd month the embryo solidifies into a fetus, and becomes a compact mass with all of its organs minutely formed. Kuja rules this small, contracted mass. In the 3rd month the organs and limbs sprout to more significant proportions and the sex of the child is determined. Guru rules this month during which the compact mass begins to first significantly expand. During the 4th month bone formation is primary, rule by the Surya, the lord of the bones. In the 5th month, governed by the Chandra, the skin surrounding the organs and the body form, resulting in greater self-consciousness. In the 6th month hair growth is significant and the nervous system leading to the skin is fully developed. Shani, lord of nerves, rules the 6th month. In the 7th month, ruled by Budha, the fetus becomes sensitive to its surroundings and begins to cognize. In the 8th month the infant becomes very aware of the sensation of hunger and thirst, takes more in through the umbilical cord and begins the final huge growth spurt. The 8th month is ruled by the Lagna lord, the lord of the body, which is then growing rapidly. In the 9th month, ruled by the Chandra, there is excitement, movement and the desire to leave the womb, and in the 10th month, ruled by the Surya, the fetus separates from its mother and individuality is born. The months of which the lords are weak or afflicted become difficult months in the pregnancy, and the months during which abortion may occur. Planets most like to cause miscarriage are those weak, combust or afflicted by malefics and in a malefic Rashi, inimical Rashi, debilitation, or with a malefic in the Navamsha If a planet is weak at the time of impregnation, then the development that occurs in its month will be low, or problematic. From the third month onwards the woman develops tastes to eat according to the disposition of the monthly lords. Combinations Conception The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that conception will or won't occur: 1. Guru in the 1st, 5th or 9th indicates that conception will occur. 2. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Kuja in own Navamshas and not combust indicate that conception will occur, especially if they are in Upachayas. 3. If the transiting Surya and Shukra are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the man's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 4. If the transiting Chandra and Kuja are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the woman's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 5. The transiting Chandra in an Upachaya in the woman's horoscope joined or aspected by a male planet leads to conception. 6. The Chandra and a male planet in the Lagna indicate that conception is likely. 7. Jupiter in own Rashi or Navamsha on a favorable Vara indicates that conception is likely. 8. The Surya, Chandra and Shukra in malefic Rashis or inimical Rashis while other planets are in benefic Rashis indicate that conception will not occur unless Guru is in the Lagna. Abortion 1. If a planet is overcome in war, combust or afflicted, miscarriage may take place in the month of the defeated planet. 2. Shani and Kuja in the Lagna cause miscarriage. 3. The Chandra in the Rashi or Kuja or Shani may cause miscarriage. Safe Pregnancy 1. The Chandra in the Lagna indicates a safe pregnancy. 2. Budha, Guru, Shukra or the Surya aspecting the Lagna indicate a safe pregnancy. 3. If benefics join the Lagna and Chandra, or if the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th from them are occupied by benefics, or if malefics are in the 3rd and 11th, while the Surya aspects the Lagna or the Chandra (some sources want the malefics in the 3rd and 11th to be aspected by the Sun), the pregnancy will be safe and happy. (The more of these indications the better the pregnancy.) Harm to the Couple The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that harm will befall one of the couple. These harmful results occur in the month of the planet (as given above) that is weak or afflicted. 1. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Surya indicates that the man will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Surya, the man will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Surya while the other aspects, the man will die. 2. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Chandra indicates that the woman will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Chandra, the woman will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Chandra while the other aspects, the woman will die. 3. Malefics in the 12th without benefic aspect indicates that the woman dies. 4. Shani in the Lagna aspected by Kuja or the malefic Chandra indicates that the woman dies. 5. If both the Lagna and Chandra are hemmed by malefics, the woman dies in pregnancy. 6. If, from the Lagna or the Chandra, malefics are in the 4th and Kuja is in the 8th, the woman dies. 7. If the Surya and Kuja are in the 4th and 12th while the Chandra is a malefic, the woman dies. 8. If Kuja is in the 1st and the Surya in the 7th, the woman dies by weapons. 9. The Surya and Chandra are hemmed between malefics when the Lagna is not aspected by a benefic indicates that the woman dies. 10. The Lagna and 7th occupied by malefics with no benefic aspects indicates that the woman dies. 11. Shani and the malefic Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Kuja indicate that the woman dies. 12. The Surya and Chandra in the 12th when Kuja is in the 4th and Shukra is between malefics indicates that the woman dies. 13. The child in the womb and the mother die if malefics are in the 4th from the Lagna or Chandra while Kuja is in the 7th from the Lagna. 14. Kuja in the 4th, the Surya in the 12th, and the Chandra waning with malefics aspecting indicates that the child in the womb and the mother die. 15. The Surya in the Lagna when the Chandra is weak indicate that child in the womb and the mother die. 16. Kuja in the Lagna with malefics in the 2nd and 12th without benefic aspect indicate that the child in the womb and the mother die. 17. If impregnation occurs in the day, the Surya is the Father, Shukra the mother, Shani the paternal uncle and the Chandra the maternal uncle. If at night, Shani is the father, the Chandra the mother, the Surya the paternal uncle and Shukra the maternal aunt. If the planet representing the father or paternal uncle is in odd Rasi, then the father or paternal uncle's well-being is there. If the planet representing the mother or maternal aunt is in an even Rasi, then the mother or maternal aunt's well-being is there. If opposite, they will not be well and other afflictions will have a greater toll. Sex of Child 1. Male planets aspecting the Lagna on even days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to male children. Female planets aspecting the Lagna on odd days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to female children. 2. If the Lagna, Surya, Chandra and Guru are in odd Rasis or Navamshas, the child is male. If in even Rashis or Navamshas, the child is female. 3. If Shukra, Kuja and the Chandra are in even Rasis, the child is female. 4. Shani in odd Bhavas, other than the Lagna, gives male children, in even Bhavas, female children. 5. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a son. 6. The Surya and Shukra in the Rashis of benefics give birth to a male. 7. The Surya and Chandra in Mulatrikona and weak give a female birth. 8. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in the Lagna aspected by or joined with Kuja gives birth to a son. 9. The Lagna and 5th lord joined, mutually aspecting or interchanged gives birth to a male child. 10. Budha in the 5th alone and unaspected gives birth to a male child. 11. All the male planets in the 6th and/or 11th while the 5th lord is strong gives birth to a male child. 12. All seven planets in odd Rasis gives birth to a male child. 13. The Surya and Guru strong and in the Vargas of the Surya give birth to a male child. 14. A strong male planet in an odd Rashi or Navamsha, joined with the Chandra and aspected by a male planet, in exaltation, or in an angle gives birth to a male. 15. A strong male planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a male planet produces a male child. A female planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a female planet produces a female child. 16. Kuja, Shukra and the Chandra in the Vargas of the Chandra when the Chandra is weak give birth to a female child. 17. Shukra and the Chandra joined in the 5th or 10th gives birth to a female child. 18. Shukra and the Chandra in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a female child. 19. Rahu in the Lagna aspected by the Chandra, or the Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Rahu gives birth to a female child. 20. Shukra in an angle or in the Hora of the Chandra gives birth to a female child. 21. If the Chandra and Shukra are prominent, the child is female. 22. Male planets in odd Rasihs and Navamshas give birth to a male child. Female planets in even Rashis and Navamshas give birth to a female. 23. The Navamsha Lagna with a male planet gives birth to a male, with a female planet to a female. 24. The Lagna in a feminine Navamsha gives birth to a female, in a male Navamsha a male. 25. The Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some), or Shani and Budha in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some) indicate that a eunuch will be born. (Eunuch need not necessarily refer to a true eunuch, but can be a barren, sterile or impotent person, or a homosexual.) Some sources require the birth to be during the daytime for the Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect to give a eunuch, and for the birth to be in the night time for Shani and Budha in mutual aspect to give birth to a eunuch. 26. If Kuja is in an odd Rashi and aspects the Surya, which is in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 27. If the Chandra and Lagna are in odd Rashis aspected by Kuja in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 28. If the Chandra is in an even Rashi and Budha in an odd Rashi and if they are both aspected by Kuja, a eunuch will be born. 29. If Shukra, the Lagna and the Chandra are in male Navamshas, a eunuch will be born. 30. The Lagna, Chandra and Budha in odd Rashis and odd Navamshas aspected by Shukra and Shani indicate the birth of a eunuch. 31. Shani and Kuja in their own Navamshas, or on angles, or in the Navamhsa of the Lagna and the Chandra, or if they are aspecting the Lagna and the Chandra, indicate a eunuch. If Shani and Budha are in male Rashis and Navamshas the eunuch will have a male form, if in even Rashis and Navamshas a female form. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Gurus, I have often being asked by couples about the best time to conceive a baby.Offcourse I doubt one can control this but this makes me think of the Nishekha Lagna.How does one select this chart? Are the general Mahurata rules applied? In this case Jupiter being the karayesh should be strong, 5th house should be empty and no planets in the 8th house.What other principles does one apply? What about the Tithi? I would appreciate any refrences, reading material or guidance on this topic. Thanking you. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Thankyou for your blessings and encouragement. Best Regards, kanupriya.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, That is a good introduction for an article.Continue the article and God's Blessings will be upon you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Thankyou very much for this huge help.I am writing something on this topic and also studying a few charts.I have written a few lines about the significance of this chart.I request all the Gurus to please read below and correct any mistakes.I will present the whole article once I am done.Thankyou again. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Nishekha Lagna The Natal Chart is drawn from the moment of the native’s birth as this is the first moment of the independent existence of the lagna and will indicate about the native’s physical health and comforts in this abode. So is this the first moment of the birth of a new soul in this world? The Bhagwat Geeta states that the ‘Atma never dies and is part of the Para atma with the difference being that the ‘Jeeva’ is attached to the atma. We in this abode are thus driven by the Jeeva shakti which helps us identify ourselves. The ‘I’ constantly drive us as long as we live but who is this ‘I’? When we feel depressed or angry there is a voice in our heads telling us at times, ’No point being this angry, do not be rash’ if the ‘I’ is angry then who is the guiding voice? Perhaps there is more to this ‘I’. As per the Bhagwat Geeta our ‘I’ consists of: · Atma-Soul · Indriyas –Senses · Mana-Mind · Buddhi- Intellegence As we experience life this perception of life changes or shifts from any of the above ‘I’ s. The illusions created drive us and we live in the cycle of various births. It is this cycle of re-birth that connects everything we do and our own actions and reactions become the Karmic pattern or cycle. We take several births as we move through the different stages of evolution with in this cycle. Hence each human being born is a soul that has come back with its own karmic pattern. The moment of the real birth in the mrtyu loka is the moment the soul becomes a ‘Jeeva atma’ and enters a mother’s womb. This moment is the first moment of existence. This is the moment of the conception. The chart drawn for this moment is called the Adhana or the conception Chart. The parents we are born to is naturally as per our own karmic patterns and cycles. The couple seeking a child will also conceive the child as per their own karmic cycle. The sages understood the importance of this one moment of conception. In the ancient times when the nations had to be ruled by that one King and the birth of a good healthy prince was crucial these charts had a key role. Kings and queens seeked the guidance of the Maharishis of their Kula to come together at an auspicious moment so that a perfect ruler can be born. This lead to a further study and the moment of the coming together of the parents became very important. The King would appoint the Kula gurus to calculate that moment that lead to a fruitful conception of a baby. At times the calculations had to be made so that a male heir was born. The chart drawn for this auspicious moment of inter course is called the Nishekha Lagna. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, Sorry for the delay in my mail.Here are my views about Nisheka Lagna Muhurta and its details as per Muhurta Classics : MARRIAGE- NISHEKA (FIRST SEXUAL UNION) Nakshatra : Rohini, Uttaraphalguni, Hasta, Svati, Anuradha, Mula, Uttarashadha, Sravana, Satabhisha, Uttarabhadrapada and Revati are favorable. Ashvini, Mrigashira, Punarvasu, Pushya, Chitra, and Dhanishta are middling. The remaining should be avoided. Tara : The Janma Nakshatra and the 10th and 19th from there should particularly be avoided. Tithi : All Tithis except the 4th, 8th, 9th, 14th and 15th are favorable. Vara : Avoid the Varas of malefics. Lagna : Vrishabha, Mithuna, Kataka, Simha, Kanya, Tula and Meena are favorable while the others should be avoided. If there is no planet in the 8th house, then Dhanu and Kumbha are okay. Navamsha: The Navamshas of the Chandra, Budha, Guru and Shukra are favorable, while those of Shani, Kuja and the Surya should be avoided. Bhavas : The Lagna and 8th should be unoccupied. (Some astrologers emphasize that the Lagna must not be occupied, others emphasize that the 8th should be vacant. A malefic should certainly not be in the Lagna, and as a general rule the 8th shouldbe unoccupied.) The 7th House determines the nature of the intercourse. Malefics influencing indicate that the union will be consummated under, or after quarrelling. Benefics influencing indicate that the union will be happy. The sexual union resembles the Rashi of the 7th. Other Informations : Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. According to Kalaprakasika: "The bedchamber should be in a comfortable place decorated and kept fragrant with sandalwood, flowers etc, and provided with water taken from sacred rivers. Above all, there should be nothing to disturb the peace of mind of the couple." Menses: If the woman's menses begins while the Moon is in an Anupachaya (Houses other than 3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th) aspected by or joined with Kuja, the menses can result in conception. If menses occurs when the Chandra is in an Upachaya, conception is not likely to occur. Ritu Dina (Days of the Woman's Menstrual Cycle) Sexual intercourse during each of the sixteen days from the first day of the menstrual period is said to have a specific effect. Intercourse during odd days tends to create female children, on even days male children. Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital energy of the father. Intercourse on the fifth day gives birth to a daughter; the sixth day favors a son who promotes posterity; the seventh day brings forth a daughter who will not bear children; the eighth day gives birth to a noble son; the ninth day gives birth to a wicked girl; the tenth day promises a praiseworthy son; the eleventh day gives birth to an unrighteous girl; the twelfth day grants a virtuous son; the thirteenth day grants a virtuous daughter; the fourteenth gives birth to a son rich in grains and gold; the fifteenth day brings forth a daughter that will not live long; and the sixteenth day gives birth to a son of all-embracing intelligence. Sexual union should be indulged in only on days that bear favorable results so that the progeny may be noble. Planetary Lords of the Months of Pregnancy A particular planet rules each month of pregnancy, and during each month different primary development occurs: Month Lord Primary Development 1st Month Shukra Union of sperm and ovum 2nd Month Kuja Solidification of embryo 3rd Month Guru Sprouting of organs and body parts 4th Month Surya Bone formation 5th Month Chandra Skin formation 6th Month Shani Hair 7th Month Budha Sensation 8th Month Lagna Lord Hunger and thirst 9th Month Chandra Desire to leave the womb 10th Month Surya Prasava (delivery) In the 1st month, union of the male fluid and female fluid take place; this is the most "liquid" state that the embryo will be in. Shukra rules the sperm and fluids in the body and thus Venus rules this first month. In the 2nd month the embryo solidifies into a fetus, and becomes a compact mass with all of its organs minutely formed. Kuja rules this small, contracted mass. In the 3rd month the organs and limbs sprout to more significant proportions and the sex of the child is determined. Guru rules this month during which the compact mass begins to first significantly expand. During the 4th month bone formation is primary, rule by the Surya, the lord of the bones. In the 5th month, governed by the Chandra, the skin surrounding the organs and the body form, resulting in greater self-consciousness. In the 6th month hair growth is significant and the nervous system leading to the skin is fully developed. Shani, lord of nerves, rules the 6th month. In the 7th month, ruled by Budha, the fetus becomes sensitive to its surroundings and begins to cognize. In the 8th month the infant becomes very aware of the sensation of hunger and thirst, takes more in through the umbilical cord and begins the final huge growth spurt. The 8th month is ruled by the Lagna lord, the lord of the body, which is then growing rapidly. In the 9th month, ruled by the Chandra, there is excitement, movement and the desire to leave the womb, and in the 10th month, ruled by the Surya, the fetus separates from its mother and individuality is born. The months of which the lords are weak or afflicted become difficult months in the pregnancy, and the months during which abortion may occur. Planets most like to cause miscarriage are those weak, combust or afflicted by malefics and in a malefic Rashi, inimical Rashi, debilitation, or with a malefic in the Navamsha If a planet is weak at the time of impregnation, then the development that occurs in its month will be low, or problematic. From the third month onwards the woman develops tastes to eat according to the disposition of the monthly lords. Combinations Conception The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that conception will or won't occur: 1. Guru in the 1st, 5th or 9th indicates that conception will occur. 2. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Kuja in own Navamshas and not combust indicate that conception will occur, especially if they are in Upachayas. 3. If the transiting Surya and Shukra are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the man's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 4. If the transiting Chandra and Kuja are in even Navamshas and in Upachayas in the woman's horoscope, conception is likely to occur. 5. The transiting Chandra in an Upachaya in the woman's horoscope joined or aspected by a male planet leads to conception. 6. The Chandra and a male planet in the Lagna indicate that conception is likely. 7. Jupiter in own Rashi or Navamsha on a favorable Vara indicates that conception is likely. 8. The Surya, Chandra and Shukra in malefic Rashis or inimical Rashis while other planets are in benefic Rashis indicate that conception will not occur unless Guru is in the Lagna. Abortion 1. If a planet is overcome in war, combust or afflicted, miscarriage may take place in the month of the defeated planet. 2. Shani and Kuja in the Lagna cause miscarriage. 3. The Chandra in the Rashi or Kuja or Shani may cause miscarriage. Safe Pregnancy 1. The Chandra in the Lagna indicates a safe pregnancy. 2. Budha, Guru, Shukra or the Surya aspecting the Lagna indicate a safe pregnancy. 3. If benefics join the Lagna and Chandra, or if the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th from them are occupied by benefics, or if malefics are in the 3rd and 11th, while the Surya aspects the Lagna or the Chandra (some sources want the malefics in the 3rd and 11th to be aspected by the Sun), the pregnancy will be safe and happy. (The more of these indications the better the pregnancy.) Harm to the Couple The following combinations at the time of intercourse indicate that harm will befall one of the couple. These harmful results occur in the month of the planet (as given above) that is weak or afflicted. 1. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Surya indicates that the man will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Surya, the man will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Surya while the other aspects, the man will die. 2. Kuja or Shani in the 7th from the Chandra indicates that the woman will become ill; if Kuja and Shani are one in the 2nd and the other in the 12th from the Chandra, the woman will die; or if one of Kuja or Shani joins the Chandra while the other aspects, the woman will die. 3. Malefics in the 12th without benefic aspect indicates that the woman dies. 4. Shani in the Lagna aspected by Kuja or the malefic Chandra indicates that the woman dies. 5. If both the Lagna and Chandra are hemmed by malefics, the woman dies in pregnancy. 6. If, from the Lagna or the Chandra, malefics are in the 4th and Kuja is in the 8th, the woman dies. 7. If the Surya and Kuja are in the 4th and 12th while the Chandra is a malefic, the woman dies. 8. If Kuja is in the 1st and the Surya in the 7th, the woman dies by weapons. 9. The Surya and Chandra are hemmed between malefics when the Lagna is not aspected by a benefic indicates that the woman dies. 10. The Lagna and 7th occupied by malefics with no benefic aspects indicates that the woman dies. 11. Shani and the malefic Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Kuja indicate that the woman dies. 12. The Surya and Chandra in the 12th when Kuja is in the 4th and Shukra is between malefics indicates that the woman dies. 13. The child in the womb and the mother die if malefics are in the 4th from the Lagna or Chandra while Kuja is in the 7th from the Lagna. 14. Kuja in the 4th, the Surya in the 12th, and the Chandra waning with malefics aspecting indicates that the child in the womb and the mother die. 15. The Surya in the Lagna when the Chandra is weak indicate that child in the womb and the mother die. 16. Kuja in the Lagna with malefics in the 2nd and 12th without benefic aspect indicate that the child in the womb and the mother die. 17. If impregnation occurs in the day, the Surya is the Father, Shukra the mother, Shani the paternal uncle and the Chandra the maternal uncle. If at night, Shani is the father, the Chandra the mother, the Surya the paternal uncle and Shukra the maternal aunt. If the planet representing the father or paternal uncle is in odd Rasi, then the father or paternal uncle's well-being is there. If the planet representing the mother or maternal aunt is in an even Rasi, then the mother or maternal aunt's well-being is there. If opposite, they will not be well and other afflictions will have a greater toll. Sex of Child 1. Male planets aspecting the Lagna on even days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to male children. Female planets aspecting the Lagna on odd days from the first day of the woman's menses give birth to female children. 2. If the Lagna, Surya, Chandra and Guru are in odd Rasis or Navamshas, the child is male. If in even Rashis or Navamshas, the child is female. 3. If Shukra, Kuja and the Chandra are in even Rasis, the child is female. 4. Shani in odd Bhavas, other than the Lagna, gives male children, in even Bhavas, female children. 5. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a son. 6. The Surya and Shukra in the Rashis of benefics give birth to a male. 7. The Surya and Chandra in Mulatrikona and weak give a female birth. 8. The Surya, Chandra, Shukra and Guru in the Lagna aspected by or joined with Kuja gives birth to a son. 9. The Lagna and 5th lord joined, mutually aspecting or interchanged gives birth to a male child. 10. Budha in the 5th alone and unaspected gives birth to a male child. 11. All the male planets in the 6th and/or 11th while the 5th lord is strong gives birth to a male child. 12. All seven planets in odd Rasis gives birth to a male child. 13. The Surya and Guru strong and in the Vargas of the Surya give birth to a male child. 14. A strong male planet in an odd Rashi or Navamsha, joined with the Chandra and aspected by a male planet, in exaltation, or in an angle gives birth to a male. 15. A strong male planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a male planet produces a male child. A female planet in the Lagna in exaltation aspected by a female planet produces a female child. 16. Kuja, Shukra and the Chandra in the Vargas of the Chandra when the Chandra is weak give birth to a female child. 17. Shukra and the Chandra joined in the 5th or 10th gives birth to a female child. 18. Shukra and the Chandra in own Rashi or Navamsha give birth to a female child. 19. Rahu in the Lagna aspected by the Chandra, or the Chandra in the Lagna aspected by Rahu gives birth to a female child. 20. Shukra in an angle or in the Hora of the Chandra gives birth to a female child. 21. If the Chandra and Shukra are prominent, the child is female. 22. Male planets in odd Rasihs and Navamshas give birth to a male child. Female planets in even Rashis and Navamshas give birth to a female. 23. The Navamsha Lagna with a male planet gives birth to a male, with a female planet to a female. 24. The Lagna in a feminine Navamsha gives birth to a female, in a male Navamsha a male. 25. The Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some), or Shani and Budha in mutual aspect (and in odd Rashis according to some) indicate that a eunuch will be born. (Eunuch need not necessarily refer to a true eunuch, but can be a barren, sterile or impotent person, or a homosexual.) Some sources require the birth to be during the daytime for the Surya and Chandra in mutual aspect to give a eunuch, and for the birth to be in the night time for Shani and Budha in mutual aspect to give birth to a eunuch. 26. If Kuja is in an odd Rashi and aspects the Surya, which is in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 27. If the Chandra and Lagna are in odd Rashis aspected by Kuja in an even Rashi, a eunuch will be born. 28. If the Chandra is in an even Rashi and Budha in an odd Rashi and if they are both aspected by Kuja, a eunuch will be born. 29. If Shukra, the Lagna and the Chandra are in male Navamshas, a eunuch will be born. 30. The Lagna, Chandra and Budha in odd Rashis and odd Navamshas aspected by Shukra and Shani indicate the birth of a eunuch. 31. Shani and Kuja in their own Navamshas, or on angles, or in the Navamhsa of the Lagna and the Chandra, or if they are aspecting the Lagna and the Chandra, indicate a eunuch. If Shani and Budha are in male Rashis and Navamshas the eunuch will have a male form, if in even Rashis and Navamshas a female form. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Gurus, I have often being asked by couples about the best time to conceive a baby.Offcourse I doubt one can control this but this makes me think of the Nishekha Lagna.How does one select this chart? Are the general Mahurata rules applied? In this case Jupiter being the karayesh should be strong, 5th house should be empty and no planets in the 8th house.What other principles does one apply? What about the Tithi? I would appreciate any refrences, reading material or guidance on this topic. Thanking you. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Rama, Nisheka is the 1st intercourse. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya,Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? Iguess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest thatit's the former.And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms...there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, thatis) can biologically conceive with no intercourse.Cheers,RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priyawrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Ramapriya, Brihat Jataka gives shlokas about the nature of the inter-course, being happy, sad etc.There are details about just the intercourse with no mention of the pregnancy.In Saravali too the shlokas say 'Nishekha kaale' , the time of inter course.Further there is use of the term 'Garbhadaan' from which we get the term 'Aadhana'.The shlokas here talk about the moment of conception and further about the pregnancy and the child about to be born.Perhaps two different terms were used only because all Nishekha lagnas may not become Aadhana. Best Wishes, Kanupriya.Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Moments after I posted, I looked up aryabhatt.com and came up with this:"ADANA LAGNA: Also known as Nisheka Lagna. Ascendant at the moment ofimpregnation."It isn't intercourse either, it's impregnation. Makes sense too, that way :)RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:18:40 -0800 (PST), kanu priya<kanupriya003 wrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah> Dear Ramapriya,> The conception chart is called the Aadhna Chart> and is different than the Nishekha chart which is for the inter course.> .> Best wishes,> Kanupriya.|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I concur. The whole idea is to find a nisheka time that'll lead to successful conception. Come to think of it, you could use the dashed idea as a natural contraceptive too, what? Ramapriya ayirpamar On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:14:10 -0800 (PST), kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: > Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah > Dear Ramapriya, > Brihat Jataka gives shlokas about the nature of the > inter-course, being happy, sad etc.There are details about just the > intercourse with no mention of the pregnancy.In Saravali too the shlokas say > 'Nishekha kaale' , the time of inter course.Further there is use of the term > 'Garbhadaan' from which we get the term 'Aadhana'.The shlokas here talk > about the moment of conception and further about the pregnancy and the child > about to be born.Perhaps two different terms were used only because all > Nishekha lagnas may not become Aadhana. > > Best Wishes, > Kanupriya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Saravali gives shlokas where the Nishekha lagna describes the kind of man the woman desires after her menstrual period is over, so can this chart be drawn at any time and does not have to to be the first time? As an astrologer if I want to give a couple a suitable time for conception am I talking about the Nishekha lagna or the Aadhna? Will the Nishekha also indicate health problems or sexual problems etc.Some of the shlokas indicate this. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Rama, Nisheka is the 1st intercourse. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya,Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? Iguess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest thatit's the former.And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms...there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, thatis) can biologically conceive with no intercourse.Cheers,RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priyawrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, I hope you might have read my article completely.Nisheka Lagna is the time fixed to have intercourse to get a healthy,prosperous child.So this can be any day after 5th day of menses for wife.I have given the planetary combinations to get male or female children. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Saravali gives shlokas where the Nishekha lagna describes the kind of man the woman desires after her menstrual period is over, so can this chart be drawn at any time and does not have to to be the first time? As an astrologer if I want to give a couple a suitable time for conception am I talking about the Nishekha lagna or the Aadhna? Will the Nishekha also indicate health problems or sexual problems etc.Some of the shlokas indicate this. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Rama, Nisheka is the 1st intercourse. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya,Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? Iguess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest thatit's the former.And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms...there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, thatis) can biologically conceive with no intercourse.Cheers,RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priyawrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Ramadasji, Namaste, Thank you for this compilation of various dictums. As I had expressed in my earlier mail, I am looking for synthesis of all the dictums given in classics on Muhurtha and also with this mail I would like to know some point of views on synthesis of dictums on Nisheka. Firstly, Guruji had pointed out the differentiation betwenn Nisheka(niSheka) and garbhaadhaana. I liked his views on need to differentiate between the two. Namely, 1. Intercourse Vs. 2. Actual Impregnation of Ovary. First point is seemingly under human control whereas the second is totally controlled by divine. The second time can only be deduced (reverse calculated) from the actualy birth chart of child. The second is given as niSheka lagna vidhi in BPHS. The First is given in various classics on Muhurtha. My understanding of Guruji's teachings is to name them differently for differentiation. 1. Garbhaadhaana (Name used in Muhurtha books I think) 2. Nisheka (Name used due to BPHS). (One can also guess with the help of Nishek Lagn effects, like longevity, death etc. of the parents.BPHS) (I think I am sure but Please correct me if I have reversed Guruji's views) There could be some time difference between 1 and 2 there are cases of late impregnation of ovary due to various reasons stated in Biology. I think following the above convention will help us to study this aspect of horoscopy better. Please read below for my more views, > Other Informations : > > Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is > bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal > to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third > day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, > miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital > energy of the father. > Ritu Dina (Days of the Woman's Menstrual Cycle) > Sexual intercourse during each of the sixteen days from the first day of the > menstrual period is said to have a specific effect. Intercourse during odd > days tends to create female children, on even days male children. > Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is > bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal > to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third > day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless, > miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital > energy of the father. > > Intercourse on the fifth day gives birth to a daughter; the sixth day favors > a son who promotes posterity; the seventh day brings forth a daughter who > will not bear children; the eighth day gives birth to a noble son; the ninth > day gives birth to a wicked girl; the tenth day promises a praiseworthy son; > the eleventh day gives birth to an unrighteous girl; the twelfth day grants > a virtuous son; the thirteenth day grants a virtuous daughter; the > fourteenth gives birth to a son rich in grains and gold; the fifteenth day > brings forth a daughter that will not live long; and the sixteenth day gives > birth to a son of all-embracing intelligence. Sexual union should be > indulged in only on days that bear favorable results so that the progeny may > be noble. > > SanjaP: Again, Let me express some view from Guruji Sanjay Rath. He says D30's divisional demarcation is very important here. He alluded that the way the amshas (divisions) for d30 are done has correlation with Womens menstrual cycle. Again I would like other students to correct me if I am wrong here. The divisions are 5,5,8,7,5 are the days in from women attains the cycles. the first 5 days are ruled by Mars (bleeding) the next 5 days are ruled by Saturn ( I think some formation of Ovary is happening, Those good with biology can explain this better) The next 8 days are ruled by Jupiter and most fruitful. the next 7 days Mercury and the next 5 days by Venus. The periods ruled by Benefics are best for Ovary. The reason I am stating this is for others to work on similar lines of thoughts. > > I hope this helps you. Yes this was certainly helpful, Please give me your views on my points Thank you Warm Regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Sanjay P, Nisheka means the actual impregnation of semen into the ovary.This is also called Adhana Lagna as mentioned in Jaimini's Upadesha Sutras translated by Sanjay Ji Page No.327, Shloka No. 3.4.48 and the note given there.Chapter 3, Quarter 4 gives various combinations of planets and their results from Adhana lagna.In my earlier mails I had given certain rules from Muhurta Classics.So you can go through Sanjay Ji's book as mentioned above for further informations on Adhana Lagna. Even I had gone through Shri P.S.Shastri Ji's translation on JMUS and it also tells the same thing about Adhana Lagna.It says Adhana Lagna or Nisheka Lagna must be 5th house from father's Janma Lagna.Also Varaha Mihiracharya in his Brihat Jataka ,in chapter 4 mentions about Nishekakhya Prakarana.He also mentions that Adhana Lagna is nothing but the time of intercourse. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Sanjay Prabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Ramadasji,Namaste, Thank you for this compilation of various dictums. As I hadexpressed in my earlier mail, I am looking for synthesis of all thedictums given in classics on Muhurtha and also with this mail I wouldlike to know some point of views on synthesis of dictums on Nisheka.Firstly, Guruji had pointed out the differentiation betwennNisheka(niSheka) and garbhaadhaana. I liked his views on need todifferentiate between the two. Namely,1. Intercourse Vs.2. Actual Impregnation of Ovary.First point is seemingly under human control whereas the second istotally controlled by divine. The second time can only be deduced(reverse calculated) from the actualy birth chart of child. Thesecond is given as niSheka lagna vidhi in BPHS. The First is given invarious classics on Muhurtha.My understanding of Guruji's teachings is to name them differently fordifferentiation.1. Garbhaadhaana (Name used in Muhurtha books I think)2. Nisheka (Name used due to BPHS). (One can also guess with the helpof Nishek Lagn effects, like longevity, death etc. of theparents.BPHS)(I think I am sure but Please correct me if I have reversed Guruji's views)There could be some time difference between 1 and 2 there are cases oflate impregnation of ovary due to various reasons stated in Biology.I think following the above convention will help us to study thisaspect of horoscopy better.Please read below for my more views,> Other Informations : > > Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is> bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal> to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third> day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless,> miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital> energy of the father. > Ritu Dina (Days of the Woman's Menstrual Cycle) > Sexual intercourse during each of the sixteen days from the first day of the> menstrual period is said to have a specific effect. Intercourse during odd> days tends to create female children, on even days male children. > Intercourse during the first four days of menses, during which the woman is> bleeding, is said to lead to serious ill effects. The first day proves fatal> to the husband; the second day affects the longevity of the woman; the third> day causes abortion; the fourth day produces a poor, stupid, houseless,> miserable and short-lived son bereft of good habits, and impairs the vital> energy of the father. > > Intercourse on the fifth day gives birth to a daughter; the sixth day favors> a son who promotes posterity; the seventh day brings forth a daughter who> will not bear children; the eighth day gives birth to a noble son; the ninth> day gives birth to a wicked girl; the tenth day promises a praiseworthy son;> the eleventh day gives birth to an unrighteous girl; the twelfth day grants> a virtuous son; the thirteenth day grants a virtuous daughter; the> fourteenth gives birth to a son rich in grains and gold; the fifteenth day> brings forth a daughter that will not live long; and the sixteenth day gives> birth to a son of all-embracing intelligence. Sexual union should be> indulged in only on days that bear favorable results so that the progeny may> be noble. > > SanjaP: Again, Let me express some view from Guruji Sanjay Rath. He says D30's divisional demarcation is very important here. Healluded that the way the amshas (divisions) for d30 are done hascorrelation with Womens menstrual cycle.Again I would like other students to correct me if I am wrong here.The divisions are 5,5,8,7,5 are the days in from women attains the cycles.the first 5 days are ruled by Mars (bleeding)the next 5 days are ruled by Saturn ( I think some formation of Ovaryis happening, Those good with biology can explain this better)The next 8 days are ruled by Jupiter and most fruitful.the next 7 days Mercury and the next 5 days by Venus.The periods ruled by Benefics are best for Ovary.The reason I am stating this is for others to work on similar lines ofthoughts.> > I hope this helps you. Yes this was certainly helpful, Please give me your views on my pointsThank youWarm RegardsSanjay PHari Om Tat Sat> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao. >------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Ram Das and Sanjay, Thankyou very much for all the information.This helps me alot. Best Regards, Kanupriya.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, I hope you might have read my article completely.Nisheka Lagna is the time fixed to have intercourse to get a healthy,prosperous child.So this can be any day after 5th day of menses for wife.I have given the planetary combinations to get male or female children. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Saravali gives shlokas where the Nishekha lagna describes the kind of man the woman desires after her menstrual period is over, so can this chart be drawn at any time and does not have to to be the first time? As an astrologer if I want to give a couple a suitable time for conception am I talking about the Nishekha lagna or the Aadhna? Will the Nishekha also indicate health problems or sexual problems etc.Some of the shlokas indicate this. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Rama, Nisheka is the 1st intercourse. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya,Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? Iguess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest thatit's the former.And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms...there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, thatis) can biologically conceive with no intercourse.Cheers,RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priyawrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, You are most welcome. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Ram Das and Sanjay, Thankyou very much for all the information.This helps me alot. Best Regards, Kanupriya.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Kanupriya, I hope you might have read my article completely.Nisheka Lagna is the time fixed to have intercourse to get a healthy,prosperous child.So this can be any day after 5th day of menses for wife.I have given the planetary combinations to get male or female children. I hope this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kanu priya <kanupriya003 wrote: Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Dear Guruji, Saravali gives shlokas where the Nishekha lagna describes the kind of man the woman desires after her menstrual period is over, so can this chart be drawn at any time and does not have to to be the first time? As an astrologer if I want to give a couple a suitable time for conception am I talking about the Nishekha lagna or the Aadhna? Will the Nishekha also indicate health problems or sexual problems etc.Some of the shlokas indicate this. Best Regards, Kanupriya. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Rama, Nisheka is the 1st intercourse. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Ramapriya D <ayirpamar wrote: Hi Ramadas and Kanupriya,Pardon my ignorance, but is nishekha intercourse or conception? Iguess it's the latter, though the emphases of your posts suggest thatit's the former.And I'm sure you know that the two are entirely different terms...there can be intercourse and no conception, just as you (females, thatis) can biologically conceive with no intercourse.Cheers,RamapriyaayirpamarOn Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:56:32 -0800 (PST), kanu priyawrote:> Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Ramapriya, Ramadas and Jyotishas, Namaste, The reason I was going into definitions of Garbhadhaana, Nisheka, etc was to bring out the difference between various Charts. My understanding is that time when ovary is fertilized is different from the time of sprinkling of sperm. These charts are different and they have different uses is my understanding. The classics could be aware of this and hence we have to interpret it with that understanding. I looked up the dictionary for the word Nisheka and garbhaadhaana, To help use come with a common understanding about the terms I will quote it here, [Ref:MW] niSheka = m. sprinkling , infusion , aspersion , dripping , distilling Ka1v. seminal infusion , impregnation and the ceremony connected with it Mn. Var. Sus3r. water for washing , dirty water , wash (impurities caused by seminal effusion ?) Mn. iv , 151 garbhaadhaana= n. impregnation (of loc.) MBh. xii , 9648 Megh. 9 Pa1n2. 3-3 , 71 Ka1s3. ` " impregnation-rite " ' , a ceremony performed before conception or after menstruation to ensure conception Ya1jn5. i , 11 Gr2ihya1s. MBh. iii KapS. I hope you understand my point of view, in trying to differentiate the two charts. Warm Regards Sanjay P Om Tat Sat varahamihira , Ramapriya D <ayirpamar@g...> wrote: > Moments after I posted, I looked up aryabhatt.com and came up with this: > > " ADANA LAGNA: Also known as Nisheka Lagna. Ascendant at the moment of > impregnation. " > > It isn't intercourse either, it's impregnation. Makes sense too, that way > > Ramapriya > ayirpamar@g... > > > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:18:40 -0800 (PST), kanu priya > <kanupriya003> wrote: > > Om Dakshinamurtaye Namah > > Dear Ramapriya, > > The conception chart is called the Aadhna Chart > > and is different than the Nishekha chart which is for the inter course. > > . > > Best wishes, > > Kanupriya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Aurite Sanjay, Let's leg this a bit more, if simplistically. That the meanings should be discrete, going by purely the biological possibilities, was quite clear to me, and this is confirmed by your customary erudition What we're actually doing is analyzing charts of different, distinct events. For example, it's much like charts of (a) when you pay for your plot of land; (b) when you ground-break; © when you enter the constructed structure for occupation (gruhapravesh). Each chart would have a definite significance in relation to the success and/or longevity of the event in question. The success of impregnation, as indeed the sucess of the impregnated impregnation (heck, this retro Merc...), can thus, I guess, be inferred from the charts of nishekha and aadhana. And I'm sure there's a technique to figure the nishekha and aadhana times from the natal chart too, since it's a logical extension of this snapshot business! Concur? Cheers, Ramapriya ayirpamar On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:30:10 -0000, sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: > > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Ramapriya, Ramadas and Jyotishas, > Namaste, > The reason I was going into definitions of Garbhadhaana, Nisheka, > etc was to bring out the difference between various Charts. > My understanding is that time when ovary is fertilized is different > from the time of sprinkling of sperm. These charts are different and > they have different uses is my understanding. The classics could be > aware of this and hence we have to interpret it with that > understanding. > I looked up the dictionary for the word Nisheka and garbhaadhaana, > To help use come with a common understanding about the terms I will > quote it here, > [Ref:MW] > niSheka = m. sprinkling , infusion , aspersion , dripping , > distilling Ka1v. > seminal infusion , impregnation and the ceremony connected with it > Mn. Var. Sus3r. > water for washing , dirty water , wash (impurities caused by > seminal effusion ?) Mn. iv , 151 > > garbhaadhaana= n. impregnation (of loc.) MBh. xii , 9648 Megh. 9 > Pa1n2. 3-3 , 71 Ka1s3. > ` " impregnation-rite " ' , a ceremony performed before conception or > after menstruation to ensure conception Ya1jn5. i , 11 Gr2ihya1s. > MBh. iii KapS. > > I hope you understand my point of view, in trying to differentiate > the two charts. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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