Asthma &amp; Wheezing...

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Bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM [bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM]

08 April 2005 00:42

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Asthma &

Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/7/05 9:21:35 A.M. Eastern

Standard Time, guruji writes:

Sarbani,

I recalled our conversation about your

chart and lungs/asthma this morning as I was driving to work. This first came

up in New Jersey

two years ago when i made a presentation on diabetes and particularly in

reference to Kledhaka Kapha and the 5th house. We also referred to it last year

in CA, possibly in a different light then.

You have Rahu in the 5th in a Kapha rasi

of Cancer and Venus, the 3rd and 8th lord is also there. In fact there is

parivartna between Venus and Moon, 3rd and 5th lords. Your Rahu dasa caused a

Kapha disturbance in the stomach and because of the affinity between the 3rd

and 5th lords, we see the lung problem... in your case asthma, but the source

was in the stomach.

Ashtang Hrdayam refers only to

svasa (difficult breathing and respiratory distress) and

the samprapti (pathogenesis) for svasa (ashma), is that Vata becomes

obstructed by Kapha. Prana Vayu and Udana Vayu are blocked by Kapha and the

site of origin is the stomach.

Bodhaka kapha, which has its origin in

the mouth can also enter Tarpaka kapha in the sinuses and aggravate Avalambaka

kapha in the lungs. Kapha in the lungs leads to upper respiratory congestion,

pulmonary congestion.

Your 3rd house is a Vata rasi and Vata in

the lungs leads to wheezing, dry cough, and hoarseness and even emphysema. The

source however is the stomach in your case.

Sorry my earlier message wasn't in depth.

Best Regards,

Brendan

Dear

Lakshmi, Kasturi, Sarbani, Samarth

Our

understanding of a physical organ and the activity performed by the organ can

be different and this is where we find that sometimes the great seers have also

differed. In this context we find that the great varahamihira has used the word

*uras* or chest/upper chest to refer to the thrid house region and has

completely missed *arms* which made me think that there has been a corruption

in the text. After all the arms are the most vital working organs where we

display our skills and we have so many dictum associated with the skills of

*hands* and the third from karakamsa.

How can we

miss out *arms* from the Kalapurusha?

It becomes

evident that the third sign needs a deeper examination and for this we need to

first study what Parasara says. Parasara uses the word *bahu* or *hands/arms*

for the third house and this has been an integral part of my understanding and

learning. The sloka is given under -

zI;aRnne twa baÃ¸ Ã¹TÂ³aefkiqbSty>,

guÃ½aeÃ©yugle januyuGme vE j'Å“ " ke twa. 4.

Ã§Ã©rÃ±Ã¤nane tathÃ¤ bÃ¤hÃ¼ hÃ¥tkroÃ²akaÃ¶ibastayaÃ¹

| guhyoruyugale jÃ¤nuyugme vai jaÃ¬ghake tathÃ¤ || 4||

The natural question arising is if

the third house is already allotted to the arms/hands by Parasara and the

fourth house is called 'hrid' by Parasara

and all astrologers including Varahamihira then the fourth house must be 'hrid'.

Now we all know that hrid means heart

(the physical heart) and this is also referring to the seat of the soul and the

seat where the emotions of the mana are digested. So what about the lungs and

chest reagion? Well logically heart is in the chest region. So I looked up the

Monier Williams and found the following meaning for the word hrid

n. the heart (as the

seat of feelings and emotions), soul , mind (as seat of thought and

intellectual operations ; breast , chest , stomach , interior (also in

older language , ` " interior of the body

Stomach is already

allocated to the fifth house, so we don't have a problem here. Isn't it clear

now that the third house represents *arms* and fourth house represents the

chest region including the *heart, lungs and everything inside the rib cage* if

we were to try and understand Parasara.

With best

wishes and warm regards,

Sanjay

Rath

PS

1. I am

travelling soon and if there are further doubts in this Visti Larsen, Brendan

Feeley and other Gurus may kindly clarify with some examples to show the

use of this knowledge in identifying disease.

2. Can

some kind soul please upload my paper on bhava and body parts/health presented

at Singapore.

How can the students know unless these papers are made available to everyone.

* * *

Sri

Jagannath CenterÂ®

15B Gangaram Hospital Road

New Delhi 110060, India

http://srath.com,

+91-11-25717162

|Om Tat Sat|

April 9, 2005

In a message dated 4/8/05 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Jaya Jagannatha

Visti,

Thanks for you great e-mail. Now tell me how this works in the body. The doctors would agree with you... digestion has nothing to do with one's illness and the world continues to suffer from ills that are so easy to correct. The symptom is not the disease and the cause is always unknowable and unseeable to the mind.

Still, your model is perfect.

Best Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

How can you say that the problem started in the stomach? Only because of fifth house? Infact here Venus is eighth lord and is placed in Cancer.

The basic rule is that the house (and drekkana) of the sixth lord and sign of the eighth lord causes the disease.

In the sixth house chapter, Parasara gives a few exceptions to the placement of the sixth lord: if it is in the first (actual word is own sign), sixth or eighth houses, then the sign indicated by the sixth house will indicate the problem area.

So Cancer rules the chest, and Rahu there will cause breathing problems. It is particularly because rahu is in the third kauluka, making the problem internal (nodes invariably give the results of the planets they are joined).

Instead in Sanjayjiâ€™s chart, the eighth lord is in Cancer and is joined the Sun, so breathing is not a problem, instead the problem could be related to the heart. Again we can confirm that it is internal because Venus itself is in an internal kauluka. Since Venus is in the third kauluka this may be due to blood problems, i.e. blood pressure.

Looking at the sixth lord Sun, it is placed in the fifth house and in the 2nd drekkana from lagna, again indicating the heart area (sixth and eigtih house is stomach), specifically right side of the heart.

Your comments are very welcome.

Best wishes,

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Visti Larsen

April 9, 2005

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Brendan,

Namaskar

Right,

actually i’m trying to understand the principle you are presenting,

because it is new, and wanted to cover the other basics first. Your point is

that the house from lagna shows where the disease started? Can you give more

examples? In both Sanjayji’s and Sarvani’s case, the problem area

is stomach as you said.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: visti

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Bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM [bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM]

09 April 2005 07:19

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Asthma

& Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/8/05 4:55:44 A.M. Eastern

Standard Time, visti writes:

Jaya Jagannatha

Visti,

Thanks for you great e-mail. Now tell me

how this works in the body. The doctors would agree with you... digestion has

nothing to do with one's illness and the world continues to suffer from ills

that are so easy to correct. The symptom is not the disease and the cause

is always unknowable and unseeable to the mind.

Still, your model is perfect.

Best Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

How can you say that the problem

started in the stomach? Only because of fifth house? Infact here Venus is

eighth lord and is placed in Cancer.

The basic rule is that the house (and

drekkana) of the sixth lord and sign of the eighth lord causes the disease.

In the sixth house chapter,

Parasara gives a few exceptions to the placement of the sixth lord: if it is in

the first (actual word is own sign), sixth or eighth houses, then the sign

indicated by the sixth house will indicate the problem area.

So Cancer rules the chest, and Rahu

there will cause breathing problems. It is particularly because rahu is in the

third kauluka, making the problem internal (nodes invariably give the results

of the planets they are joined).

Instead in Sanjayji’s chart,

the eighth lord is in Cancer and is joined the Sun, so breathing is not a

problem, instead the problem could be related to the heart. Again we can

confirm that it is internal because Venus itself is in an internal kauluka.

Since Venus is in the third kauluka this may be due to blood problems, i.e.

blood pressure.

Looking at the sixth lord Sun, it

is placed in the fifth house and in the 2nd drekkana from lagna,

again indicating the heart area (sixth and eigtih house is stomach),

specifically right side of the heart.

Your comments are very welcome.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

|Om Tat Sat|

April 10, 2005

In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Visti,

What I'm advocating is that we pay attention to the body, the nature and cause of disease or what is referred to as pathogenesis before we impose an astrological model. We have the cart before the horse and it is not good "science" in my opinion. If we develop a theory and it does not account for the integrity of bodily systems and only focuses on parts, then we have lost our way. This is called rationalism and our world suffers from too much of it.

Look at the field of medicine! They develop a theory, apply the principles and three years later refute the theory based on experience, as they haven't even addressed fundamental questions about the nature of a human being, the symptoms they call disease and the purpose of drugs.

I feel very strongly about this.

Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without a doubt.

All the best,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Right, actually iâ€™m trying to understand the principle you are presenting, because it is new, and wanted to cover the other basics first. Your point is that the house from lagna shows where the disease started? Can you give more examples? In both Sanjayjiâ€™s and Sarvaniâ€™s case, the problem area is stomach as you said.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

April 10, 2005

varahamihira , Bpfeeley@A... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> visti@s... writes:

>

> Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without

a doubt.

>

> All the best,

> Brendan

Hi Brendan,

Hypertension is elevated pressure in arteries, which are vessels that

carry blood from the heart to all of the tissues and organs of the

body. High blood pressure does not mean excessive emotional tension,

which the fifth house could indicate, although emotional tension and

stress can temporarily increase the blood pressure.

My uneducated guess would be to look primarily at afflictions to the

karaka for circulation, and since hypertension is an upshot of an

endocrinal glitch, look up Jupiter too (remember the recent thread on

my group?) and most importantly the d-chart that shows hereditary

characteristics. Like they say, the dirt is all in the jeans (sic)

Do continue this thread, Brendan, though I won't be on the list

awhile now, but will doubtless catch up later.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

April 10, 2005

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Ramapriya,

The truth in the saying " you are what you eat " begins from the

5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food gets

masticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look at the

overall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......

Swee

ramapriya_d [ayirpamar]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:41 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

varahamihira , Bpfeeley@A... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> visti@s... writes:

>

> Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without

a doubt.

>

> All the best,

> Brendan

Hi Brendan,

Hypertension is elevated pressure in arteries, which are vessels that

carry blood from the heart to all of the tissues and organs of the

body. High blood pressure does not mean excessive emotional tension,

which the fifth house could indicate, although emotional tension and

stress can temporarily increase the blood pressure.

My uneducated guess would be to look primarily at afflictions to the

karaka for circulation, and since hypertension is an upshot of an

endocrinal glitch, look up Jupiter too (remember the recent thread on

my group?) and most importantly the d-chart that shows hereditary

characteristics. Like they say, the dirt is all in the jeans (sic)

Do continue this thread, Brendan, though I won't be on the list

awhile now, but will doubtless catch up later.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

|Om Tat Sat|

April 10, 2005

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> The truth in the saying " you are what you eat " begins from the

> 5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food

gets

> masticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look

at the

> overall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......

>

> Swee

Pardon my bein obtuse here, but if we're what we eat, shouldn't we be

seein the 2nd house? I wonder if that's why 2h has argala on lagna!

5th just digests for the 6th and 7th houses to ingest...

Just my 0.02

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

April 10, 2005

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Brendan,

Namaskar

Thank God

we think alike. I follow you and agree with you.

About integrity

of bodily systems and coherence between the two; I remember Guruji on the

west-coast talking about the Srota being seen from the Trimsamsa placement of

the planet. How do you integrate this in your analysis?

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: visti

***

Bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM [bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM]

10 April 2005 04:42

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Asthma

& Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern

Standard Time, visti writes:

Visti,

What I'm advocating is that we pay

attention to the body, the nature and cause of disease or what is referred

to as pathogenesis before we impose an astrological model. We have the

cart before the horse and it is not good " science " in my opinion. If

we develop a theory and it does not account for the integrity of bodily systems

and only focuses on parts, then we have lost our way. This is called

rationalism and our world suffers from too much of it.

Look at the field of medicine! They

develop a theory, apply the principles and three years later refute the theory

based on experience, as they haven't even addressed fundamental questions about

the nature of a human being, the symptoms they call disease and the purpose of

drugs.

I feel very strongly about this.

Does the 5th house have anything to do

with hypertension? Without a doubt.

All the best,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Right, actually i’m trying to

understand the principle you are presenting, because it is new, and wanted to

cover the other basics first. Your point is that the house from lagna shows

where the disease started? Can you give more examples? In both Sanjayji’s

and Sarvani’s case, the problem area is stomach as you said.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

|Om Tat Sat|

April 10, 2005

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi et al,

Namaste

The texts below from NP is in the section under adhana, but it maybe a pertinent

piece of information where the drekkana of the sign is discussed with regard to

body parts.

Narada Purana II.55

Å›Ä«rá¹£akaá¹ƒ dakÅ›rave nÄsÄ kapolahanavo mukham|

kaá¹‡á¹hÄá¹ƒsapÄrÅ›vahá¹›ddvoá¹£aá¸¥ kroá¸aá¹ƒnÄbhiÅ›ca bÄstikÄá¸¥||92

Å›iá¹ƒÅ›nÄpÄte ca vá¹›á¹£aá¹‡au jaghane jÄnunÄ« tathÄ|

jaá¹…ghepÄdau cobhaghayatra tryaá¹ƒÅ›aiá¸¥ samuditairvadet||93

pÄpayukte vraá¹‡astasminnaá¹…ge laká¹£ma ca tadyute|

Do give me your thoughts.

love,

Swee

ramapriya_d [ayirpamar]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:11 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya,

>

> The truth in the saying " you are what you eat " begins from the

> 5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food

gets

> masticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look

at the

> overall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......

>

> Swee

Pardon my bein obtuse here, but if we're what we eat, shouldn't we be

seein the 2nd house? I wonder if that's why 2h has argala on lagna!

5th just digests for the 6th and 7th houses to ingest...

Just my 0.02

Ramapriya

ayirpamar

|Om Tat Sat|

April 10, 2005

Is it just me that finds your fonts unintelligible, Swee?

The office doesn't give amanuenses better laptops either, so... :\

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi et al,

>

> Narada Purana II.55

> Å›Ä«rá¹£akaá¹ƒ dakÅ›rave nÄsÄ kapolahanavo mukham|

> kaá¹‡á¹hÄá¹ƒsapÄrÅ›vahá¹›ddvoá¹£aá¸¥ kroá¸aá¹ƒnÄbhiÅ›ca

bÄstikÄá¸¥||92

> Å›iá¹ƒÅ›nÄpÄte ca vá¹›á¹£aá¹‡au jaghane jÄnunÄ« tathÄ|

> jaá¹…ghepÄdau cobhaghayatra tryaá¹ƒÅ›aiá¸¥ samuditairvadet||93

> pÄpayukte vraá¹‡astasminnaá¹…ge laká¹£ma ca tadyute|

>

> Do give me your thoughts.

>

> love,

> Swee

April 10, 2005

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

I can't read the script either!

Love,

Lakshmi

--- ramapriya_d <ayirpamar wrote:

>

> Is it just me that finds your fonts unintelligible,

> Swee?

> The office doesn't give amanuenses better laptops

> either, so... :\

>

> varahamihira , " Swee Chan "

> <swee@c...> wrote:

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi et al,

> >

> > Narada Purana II.55

> > Å›Ä«rá¹£akaá¹ƒ dakÅ›rave nÄsÄ kapolahanavo

> mukham|

> > kaá¹‡á¹hÄá¹ƒsapÄrÅ›vahá¹›ddvoá¹£aá¸¥

> kroá¸aá¹ƒnÄbhiÅ›ca

> bÄstikÄá¸¥||92

> > Å›iá¹ƒÅ›nÄpÄte ca vá¹›á¹£aá¹‡au jaghane jÄnunÄ«

> tathÄ|

> > jaá¹…ghepÄdau cobhaghayatra tryaá¹ƒÅ›aiá¸¥

> samuditairvadet||93

> > pÄpayukte vraá¹‡astasminnaá¹…ge laká¹£ma ca

> tadyute|

> >

> > Do give me your thoughts.

> >

> > love,

> > Swee

>

April 10, 2005

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi,

I am attaching it in jpg format.

Please have a read and give me your thoughts.

Love, Swee

lakshmi ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:43 AM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Swee,

I can't read the script either!

Love,

Lakshmi

--- ramapriya_d <ayirpamar wrote:

>

> Is it just me that finds your fonts unintelligible,

> Swee?

> The office doesn't give amanuenses better laptops

> either, so... :\

>

> varahamihira , " Swee Chan "

> <swee@c...> wrote:

> > Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi et al,

> >

> > Narada Purana II.55

> > ED+ra9#akaa9 dakErave nDsD kapolahanavo

> mukham|

> > kaa9

a9-hDa9sapDrEvaha9ddvoa9#aa8%

> kroa8

aa9nDbhiEca

> bDstikDa8%||92

> > Eia9EnDpDte ca va9a9#aa9

au jaghane jDnunD+

> tathD|

> > jaa9ghepDdau cobhaghayatra tryaa9Eaia8%

> samuditairvadet||93

> > pDpayukte vraa9

astasminnaa9ge laka9#ma ca

> tadyute|

> >

> > Do give me your thoughts.

> >

> > love,

> > Swee

>

|Om Tat Sat|

April 10, 2005

varahamihira , " Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi,

>

> I am attaching it in jpg format.

Well, the box at the bottom of the screen says Attachments not stored :\

April 10, 2005

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Ramapriya,

I have embedded it into this mail. It’s just

dawned on me that you’ll need to re-set your e-mail to html wrt the docs on Creation (Bhagavata

Purana). Please try and see if this can be resolved.

Thanks,

Swee

ramapriya_d [ayirpamar]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 12:31 PM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

varahamihira ,

" Swee Chan " <swee@c...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannatha

>

> Dear Ramapriya and Lakshmi,

>

> I am attaching it in jpg format.

Well, the box at the bottom of the screen says

Attachments not stored :\

April 10, 2005

In a message dated 4/10/05 12:59:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, swee writes:

Swee,

This is in jest but I heard of a very renounced Tantric who dressed only in black once talk about this "you are what you eat." Somebody asked him about the proper diet for a human being and he said that "if you eat vegetables you become a vegetable, if you eat chicken you become a chicken, you eat cows you become a cow and if you eat human beings you become a human being."

The onlookers were shocked.

He then proceeded to say, that "you people are very naive" and then began his long philosophical discourses about the nature of the universe and gave those present the most exquisite experience of the Divine Mother.

Best Regards,

Brendan

The truth in the saying "you are what you eat" begins from the5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food getsmasticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look at theoverall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......Sweeramapriya_d [ayirpamar] Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:41 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...varahamihira , Bpfeeley@A... wrote:> > In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > visti@s... writes:> > > Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without a doubt.> > All the best,> BrendanHi Brendan,Hypertension is elevated pressure in arteries, which are vessels that carry blood from the heart to all of the tissues and organs of the body. High blood pressure does not mean excessive emotional tension, which the fifth house could indicate, although emotional tension and stress can temporarily increase the blood pressure.My uneducated guess would be to look primarily at afflictions to the karaka for circulation, and since hypertension is an upshot of an endocrinal glitch, look up Jupiter too (remember the recent thread on my group?) and most importantly the d-chart that shows hereditary characteristics. Like they say, the dirt is all in the jeans (sic) :)Do continue this thread, Brendan, though I won't be on the list awhile now, but will doubtless catch up later.Cheers,Ramapriya

April 10, 2005

In a message dated 4/10/05 2:05:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Jaya Jagannatha

Ramapriya, Visti & Swee,

Ramapriya, I have difficulty in accepting that hypertension has nothing to do with emotional stress/supression and that the pressure in the arteries has nothing to do with the existential experience of the person whose blood runs through the arteries. We can never separate the person from his body, purusha from prakriti. They are eternally related for this temporary existence. The Gita tells us about this.

Embodiment is an existential phenomena and the same applies to symptoms that arise in the body. Enlightenment is also an embodied experience. In other words, the mind has to be Divinized or made one with the God/Deity and the body is the Temple for this experience. This is what the Saints and Gurus tell us and weâ€™ve all had moments or experiences of that ecstatic love for the Divine, in whichever form or aspect we have chosen. Surely this is what we long for most in our absurd lives.

Hypertension is a complex â€œdiseaseâ€ and you must know that hypertension is a symptom and not a â€œdis-easeâ€ in itself. We have to start thinking this way, otherwise we fail to see the person and everybody wants to be seen. Life is a from of revelationâ€¦ of self to God, ourselves to ourselves, self to others, etc. The mystery becomes revealed to us as we reveal ourselves.

The body speaks the mind and consciousness runs through every cell in the body. Whose consciousness? Ours of course. The mind and body are a manifestation of the gunas and the tattwas and they are never without relationship. There is an intelligence far greater than our intelligence that brings all these into relationship and the mind/ego is the first cause of "dis-ease" for the mind is that which deviates from that cosmic order, that perfect marriage of purusha and prakriti, Shiva and Shakti.

We human beings literalize everything when we are ignorant. The wise know this and also know that there is knowledge and learning in all phenomena. We have to translate experience into something meaningful and perception into knowledge. When we are in this mode we are alive and truth is to be found in all kinds of places.

Iâ€™ll give you one aspect of hypertension. I'm using terms here that you may not have heard before and it would require a year of basics on ayurvedic theory to fully explain, but it is always better to begin at the end of things and then work your way back. many would disagree. I covered some of these concepts in previous conferences (doshas, sub-doshas, dhatus, srotas, etc).

There is much to it and it would take a long time. There are seven dhatus or tissues in teh body and Rasa and Rakta have to do with carrying nutrients throughout the body. Rakta dhatu or blood tissue and more accurately red blood cells, carries nutrients (from the gastrointestinal tract and prana from the lungs) to all the tissues in the body and it also carries some hormones. It carries prana throughout the body and therefore gives life to the cells. Everything is bathed in rakta.

Ranjaka pitta, prana vayu and vyana vayu are all present in raktu dhatu and are responsible for its color and ability to circulate throughout the body. Ranjaka pitta is located in the liver and the spleen, organs represented by the 5th house, and is also to be found in the stomach. The spleen and liver are the origin or mula (root) of rakta vaha srota and the pathway is the circulatory system itself. Ranjaka pitta is also responsible for the creation of the blood cells in the bone marrow.

Hypertension is one of many disorders of rakta dhatu, the blood tissue, and when rakta dhatu is increased (rakta vruddhi) pitta symptoms develop. Anger, hate and envy are all pitta emotions and they increase ranjaka pitta in rakta dhatu and can lead to hypertension as well as other disorders of rakta dhatu. Which planet represents these type of emotions? They are tamasic pitta emotions and therefore Mars is the culprit.

Majja dhatu, the nerve tissue, is also involved and therefore nervous tension has to be looked at. Parasara tells us that Mars rules Majja dhatu as well. High pitta in rakta dhatu can affect majja dhatu and lead to the well known risk factors listed for hypertension (cerebral hemorrhage, stroke, etc). A stroke is typically caused by pitta but ends up with vata (paralysis).

As I said this is just a partial explanation as there are other mechanisms involved as well, so donâ€™t see this as a complete explanation of ALL cases of hypertension.

Best Regards,

Brendan

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Thank God we think alike. I follow you and agree with you.

About integrity of bodily systems and coherence between the two; I remember Guruji on the west-coast talking about the Srota being seen from the Trimsamsa placement of the planet. How do you integrate this in your analysis?

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: visti

***

Bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM [bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM] 10 April 2005 04:42varahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Visti,

What I'm advocating is that we pay attention to the body, the nature and cause of disease or what is referred to as pathogenesis before we impose an astrological model. We have the cart before the horse and it is not good "science" in my opinion. If we develop a theory and it does not account for the integrity of bodily systems and only focuses on parts, then we have lost our way. This is called rationalism and our world suffers from too much of it.

Look at the field of medicine! They develop a theory, apply the principles and three years later refute the theory based on experience, as they haven't even addressed fundamental questions about the nature of a human being, the symptoms they call disease and the purpose of drugs.

I feel very strongly about this.

Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without a doubt.

All the best,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Right, actually iâ€™m trying to understand the principle you are presenting, because it is new, and wanted to cover the other basics first. Your point is that the house from lagna shows where the disease started? Can you give more examples? In both Sanjayjiâ€™s and Sarvaniâ€™s case, the problem area is stomach as you said.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

April 10, 2005

In a message dated 4/10/05 2:05:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Visti,

I was well aware that you think like this but wanted to play devil's advocate to bring out the theme. It does not make sense to me that the srotas would be seen from the Trimsamsa but Sanjay has taught me much and I hope to learn more.

I would expect to see them in D-1.

Best Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Thank God we think alike. I follow you and agree with you.

About integrity of bodily systems and coherence between the two; I remember Guruji on the west-coast talking about the Srota being seen from the Trimsamsa placement of the planet. How do you integrate this in your analysis?

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

April 10, 2005

In a message dated 4/10/05 1:11:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ayirpamar writes:

Ramapriya,

Food enters the body at the 2nd house and the waste material leaves the body at the 8th house. Everything in between is digestion.

Best Regards,

Brendan

> Dear Ramapriya,> > The truth in the saying "you are what you eat" begins from the> 5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food gets> masticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look at the> overall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......> > SweePardon my bein obtuse here, but if we're what we eat, shouldn't we be seein the 2nd house? I wonder if that's why 2h has argala on lagna! 5th just digests for the 6th and 7th houses to ingest...Just my 0.02Ramapriyaayirpamar

April 11, 2005

om gurave namah

Dear Brendan

Of course..just those degrees for tatwa. Also we need to define the whole lot. A clear definition is missing (and this confuses any understanding and use) and this is the big bottle neck in our study. Have been waiting for you to come out with a definite finding for the past two years and I know that if there is anyone who can do it, it will be you.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Bpfeeley [bpfeeley] Monday, April 11, 2005 2:02 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/10/05 2:05:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Visti,

I was well aware that you think like this but wanted to play devil's advocate to bring out the theme. It does not make sense to me that the srotas would be seen from the Trimsamsa but Sanjay has taught me much and I hope to learn more.

I would expect to see them in D-1.

Best Regards,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Thank God we think alike. I follow you and agree with you.

About integrity of bodily systems and coherence between the two; I remember Guruji on the west-coast talking about the Srota being seen from the Trimsamsa placement of the planet. How do you integrate this in your analysis?

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

April 11, 2005

Jaya

Jagannatha

Dear Brendan,

I love it! It got my mind reeling…………..

The 1st Chapter of Devi Bhagavata says this: just as

the organ of taste is satisfied then and then only when it tastes the six kinds

of rasas. A blind man eats to keep himself alive, his

sense of smell (Mercury) and taste (Venus) remains intact. As for us, the

pleasure is derived in looking (Sun) and the food and vivid imagination (Moon)

takes over (salivary glands). That begins from the 1st house. 2nd

house maybe the intake of food (Taurus) yet I am hard pressed to think that the

mouth and the beginning of the gullet is not part of the face (1st house).

I am also not refuting the fact that the arm

is identified as the 3rd house in Kalapurusha

and later hints on drekkana and body parts; this I’ve

posted a couple of days ago J.

Each of these signs are broken up into 3 parts; 0-10

degrees and so on. Depending on whether they are even signs or odd signs,

specific parts either on the left or right are indicated.

Love,

Swee

Bpfeeley

[bpfeeley]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:16

PM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/10/05 12:59:27 A.M.

Eastern Standard Time, swee

writes:

Swee,

This is in jest but I heard of a very

renounced Tantric who dressed only in black once talk about this " you are

what you eat. " Somebody asked him about the proper diet for a human being

and he said that " if you eat vegetables you become a vegetable, if you eat

chicken you become a chicken, you eat cows you become a cow and if you eat

human beings you become a human being. "

The onlookers were shocked.

He then proceeded to say, that " you

people are very naive " and then began his long philosophical discourses

about the nature of the universe and gave those present the most exquisite

experience of the Divine Mother.

Best Regards,

Brendan

The truth in the saying " you are

what you eat " begins from the

5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food gets

masticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look at the

overall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......

Swee

ramapriya_d [ayirpamar]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:41 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

varahamihira ,

Bpfeeley@A... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> visti@s... writes:

>

> Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without

a doubt.

>

> All the best,

> Brendan

Hi Brendan,

Hypertension is elevated pressure in arteries, which are vessels that

carry blood from the heart to all of the tissues and organs of the

body. High blood pressure does not mean excessive emotional tension,

which the fifth house could indicate, although emotional tension and

stress can temporarily increase the blood pressure.

My uneducated guess would be to look primarily at afflictions to the

karaka for circulation, and since hypertension is an upshot of an

endocrinal glitch, look up Jupiter too (remember the recent thread on

my group?) and most importantly the d-chart that shows hereditary

characteristics. Like they say, the dirt is all in the jeans (sic)

Do continue this thread, Brendan, though I won't be on the list

awhile now, but will doubtless catch up later.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

|Om Tat Sat|

April 12, 2005

om gurave namah

Dear Swee

The right and left division is the hora division of the sign while the drekkana division is the more preferred division as itbreaks it into the three levels of top middle and bottom based on natal chart.

Thus for example, thethird house represents arms, the upper chest (adams apple) where choking occurs and other parts also. Look at Sarajits chart to see how the third house caused choking at the adams apple/throat and almost killed him. Saturn is the second and 3rd lord and is in Gemini (natural 3rd house) in badhak sthana in 3rd drekkana. If lagna is first drekkana then Saturn will show lower body whereas if lagna is 2nd drekkana then Saturn will show danger in middle body/adams apple area/ upper chest/arms.

According to me his lagna is 2nd drekkana and in Venus dasa Moon antardasa (Moon is 8th lord, Venus is 6th lord, Saturn is karaka for both 6th & 8th houses, so its results will be seen), he almost choked to death. The choking was caused by the Moon with Rahu as Moon is karaka for sustenance and food and is in debility as 8th lord and with Rahu.

He lived due to Guru in 3rd house as lagna lord in marana karaka sthana and whenever he is about to die, Guru will save him for a higher purpose...strange way to remind someone that he hasn't appeared inthis planet to just play soccer and leave.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Swee Chan [swee] Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:49 AMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Brendan,

I love it! It got my mind reeling…………..

The 1st Chapter of Devi Bhagavata says this: just as the organ of taste is satisfied then and then only when it tastes the six kinds of rasas. A blind man eats to keep himself alive, his sense of smell (Mercury) and taste (Venus) remains intact. As for us, the pleasure is derived in looking (Sun) and the food and vivid imagination (Moon) takes over (salivary glands). That begins from the 1st house. 2nd house maybe the intake of food (Taurus) yet I am hard pressed to think that the mouth and the beginning of the gullet is not part of the face (1st house).

I am also not refuting the fact that the arm is identified as the 3rd house in Kalapurusha and later hints on drekkana and body parts; this I’ve posted a couple of days ago J. Each of these signs are broken up into 3 parts; 0-10 degrees and so on. Depending on whether they are even signs or odd signs, specific parts either on the left or right are indicated.

Love,

Swee

Bpfeeley [bpfeeley] Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:16 PMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/10/05 12:59:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, swee writes:

Swee,

This is in jest but I heard of a very renounced Tantric who dressed only in black once talk about this "you are what you eat." Somebody asked him about the proper diet for a human being and he said that "if you eat vegetables you become a vegetable, if you eat chicken you become a chicken, you eat cows you become a cow and if you eat human beings you become a human being."

The onlookers were shocked.

He then proceeded to say, that "you people are very naive" and then began his long philosophical discourses about the nature of the universe and gave those present the most exquisite experience of the Divine Mother.

Best Regards,

Brendan

The truth in the saying "you are what you eat" begins from the5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food getsmasticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look at theoverall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......Sweeramapriya_d [ayirpamar] Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:41 AMvarahamihira Subject: |Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...varahamihira , Bpfeeley@A... wrote:> > In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > visti@s... writes:> > > Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without a doubt.> > All the best,> BrendanHi Brendan,Hypertension is elevated pressure in arteries, which are vessels that carry blood from the heart to all of the tissues and organs of the body. High blood pressure does not mean excessive emotional tension, which the fifth house could indicate, although emotional tension and stress can temporarily increase the blood pressure.My uneducated guess would be to look primarily at afflictions to the karaka for circulation, and since hypertension is an upshot of an endocrinal glitch, look up Jupiter too (remember the recent thread on my group?) and most importantly the d-chart that shows hereditary characteristics. Like they say, the dirt is all in the jeans (sic) :)Do continue this thread, Brendan, though I won't be on the list awhile now, but will doubtless catch up later.Cheers,Ramapriya

|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

April 12, 2005

om gurave namah

Dear Brendan

I just went back to check when I had this hyper-tension and developed Blood Pressure. The history sheet is here -

Mer-Mer: Hypertension begins (Merucyr is badhaka lord in Leo - 5th house and is tridoshic planet in the natural 5th house affecting the liver)

Mer-Ket: BP under control for reasons still unknown

Mer-Ven: Most secere hyper-tension and very high BP - Venus in 5th hose of chart with Sun (Lord of leo) and is 8th lord and in Cancer (blood).

..... My god! You are right again. I never understood this BP thing and was looking at the Moon all the time and wondering what went wrong. How foolish of me to look at Moon (Blood) alone simply because the symptom is called Blood Pressure. After the last conference where you presented those papers, I did look at the houses but there's too much to intake in a short time and Ayurveda is too deep. Thanks for this. Any simple hints or home remedies at reducing the ranjaka pitta like drinking some warm water or simple stuff is what I am looking for. Tired of those tablets - I keep forgetting them and then fall sick.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Bpfeeley [bpfeeley] Monday, April 11, 2005 1:55 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/10/05 2:05:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Jaya Jagannatha

Ramapriya, Visti & Swee,

Ramapriya, I have difficulty in accepting that hypertension has nothing to do with emotional stress/supression and that the pressure in the arteries has nothing to do with the existential experience of the person whose blood runs through the arteries. We can never separate the person from his body, purusha from prakriti. They are eternally related for this temporary existence. The Gita tells us about this.

Embodiment is an existential phenomena and the same applies to symptoms that arise in the body. Enlightenment is also an embodied experience. In other words, the mind has to be Divinized or made one with the God/Deity and the body is the Temple for this experience. This is what the Saints and Gurus tell us and we’ve all had moments or experiences of that ecstatic love for the Divine, in whichever form or aspect we have chosen. Surely this is what we long for most in our absurd lives.

Hypertension is a complex “disease” and you must know that hypertension is a symptom and not a “dis-ease” in itself. We have to start thinking this way, otherwise we fail to see the person and everybody wants to be seen. Life is a from of revelation… of self to God, ourselves to ourselves, self to others, etc. The mystery becomes revealed to us as we reveal ourselves.

The body speaks the mind and consciousness runs through every cell in the body. Whose consciousness? Ours of course. The mind and body are a manifestation of the gunas and the tattwas and they are never without relationship. There is an intelligence far greater than our intelligence that brings all these into relationship and the mind/ego is the first cause of "dis-ease" for the mind is that which deviates from that cosmic order, that perfect marriage of purusha and prakriti, Shiva and Shakti.

We human beings literalize everything when we are ignorant. The wise know this and also know that there is knowledge and learning in all phenomena. We have to translate experience into something meaningful and perception into knowledge. When we are in this mode we are alive and truth is to be found in all kinds of places.

I’ll give you one aspect of hypertension. I'm using terms here that you may not have heard before and it would require a year of basics on ayurvedic theory to fully explain, but it is always better to begin at the end of things and then work your way back. many would disagree. I covered some of these concepts in previous conferences (doshas, sub-doshas, dhatus, srotas, etc).

There is much to it and it would take a long time. There are seven dhatus or tissues in teh body and Rasa and Rakta have to do with carrying nutrients throughout the body. Rakta dhatu or blood tissue and more accurately red blood cells, carries nutrients (from the gastrointestinal tract and prana from the lungs) to all the tissues in the body and it also carries some hormones. It carries prana throughout the body and therefore gives life to the cells. Everything is bathed in rakta.

Ranjaka pitta, prana vayu and vyana vayu are all present in raktu dhatu and are responsible for its color and ability to circulate throughout the body. Ranjaka pitta is located in the liver and the spleen, organs represented by the 5th house, and is also to be found in the stomach. The spleen and liver are the origin or mula (root) of rakta vaha srota and the pathway is the circulatory system itself. Ranjaka pitta is also responsible for the creation of the blood cells in the bone marrow.

Hypertension is one of many disorders of rakta dhatu, the blood tissue, and when rakta dhatu is increased (rakta vruddhi) pitta symptoms develop. Anger, hate and envy are all pitta emotions and they increase ranjaka pitta in rakta dhatu and can lead to hypertension as well as other disorders of rakta dhatu. Which planet represents these type of emotions? They are tamasic pitta emotions and therefore Mars is the culprit.

Majja dhatu, the nerve tissue, is also involved and therefore nervous tension has to be looked at. Parasara tells us that Mars rules Majja dhatu as well. High pitta in rakta dhatu can affect majja dhatu and lead to the well known risk factors listed for hypertension (cerebral hemorrhage, stroke, etc). A stroke is typically caused by pitta but ends up with vata (paralysis).

As I said this is just a partial explanation as there are other mechanisms involved as well, so don’t see this as a complete explanation of ALL cases of hypertension.

Best Regards,

Brendan

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Thank God we think alike. I follow you and agree with you.

About integrity of bodily systems and coherence between the two; I remember Guruji on the west-coast talking about the Srota being seen from the Trimsamsa placement of the planet. How do you integrate this in your analysis?

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: visti

***

Bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM [bpfeeley (AT) AOL (DOT) COM] 10 April 2005 04:42varahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, visti writes:

Visti,

What I'm advocating is that we pay attention to the body, the nature and cause of disease or what is referred to as pathogenesis before we impose an astrological model. We have the cart before the horse and it is not good "science" in my opinion. If we develop a theory and it does not account for the integrity of bodily systems and only focuses on parts, then we have lost our way. This is called rationalism and our world suffers from too much of it.

Look at the field of medicine! They develop a theory, apply the principles and three years later refute the theory based on experience, as they haven't even addressed fundamental questions about the nature of a human being, the symptoms they call disease and the purpose of drugs.

I feel very strongly about this.

Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without a doubt.

All the best,

Brendan

Dear Brendan, Namaskar

Right, actually i’m trying to understand the principle you are presenting, because it is new, and wanted to cover the other basics first. Your point is that the house from lagna shows where the disease started? Can you give more examples? In both Sanjayji’s and Sarvani’s case, the problem area is stomach as you said.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira

April 12, 2005

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Sanjay ji

and Brendan,

Namaste

The post I’d written to both

Ramapriya and Lakshmi Ramesh

had the following to say:

Narada Purana Chapter 55 Texts 92-92

When any of the three drekkana of a Rasi rises, the

native’s limbs are allotted to the different houses in the following

manner:

1) When

the 1st drekkana rises, those of the 12

houses counted from (Meña) lagna onwards are: Head, Eye, Ear, Nostril,

Cheek, Jaw (and Mouth) on the right and left sides.

2) In

the 2nd drekkana, those of the 12 houses

counted from the lagna are: Neck, Shoulder, Side,

Heart, Arm, Chest and Navel on the two sides

3) The

3rd drekkana in order, represents: Pelvis,

Genital organ, Anus, Thighs, Knees, Shanks, Feet

See, Sanjayji,

the left part and the right part has nothing to do with the Hora.

I know where you are coming from though. You must mean that if the disease is

congenital, we can plot this and look into weak genetic codes from our

ancestry. If that is the case, then Dwadasamsa should

also be read.

In the earlier texts, it also tells us

that should Mars/Saturn occupy a Sign or Amsa…………

I assume this is “amsa” means navamsa only but in Text 232, it says Moon in Virgo Dwadasamsa gives sufferings due to eye disease which is in

line with your delineation from the “Hora.”

It also states that whichever drekkana is occupied by a malefic will have a

wound/ulcer in the corresponding limb. There will be a birth mark when the

conjoining planet is posited in its own sign or Amsa.

I have a natural birth mark on my left

hand, and can’t even recall when I had a bump on my pate with a resultant

permanent indent. Oooooooooooh, don’t tell me I

am Aries lagna ;-)

Anyway, the gist of it is, there are far

too many texts with references to either rasi or amsa. The Rishis have given

us many variables to look into and it is certainly NOT ONLY the rasi chart we give our assessment to. The trimsamsa that can also be read alongside the drekkana is not in relation to diseases.

With these pointers, I have to (politely J) disagree

with both you and Brendan that diseases are only seen from Rasi

chart alone.

Love,

Swee

Sanjay Rath

[guruji]

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:08

AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Asthma & Wheezing...

om gurave namah

Dear Swee

The right and left division is the hora division

of the sign while the drekkana division is the more preferred division as

itbreaks it into the three levels of top middle and bottom based on natal

chart.

Thus for example, thethird house

represents arms, the upper chest (adams apple)

where choking occurs and other parts also. Look at Sarajits chart to see how

the third house caused choking at the adams

apple/throat and almost killed him. Saturn is the second and 3rd lord and is in

Gemini (natural 3rd house) in badhak sthana in 3rd drekkana. If lagna is first

drekkana then Saturn will show lower body whereas if lagna is 2nd drekkana then

Saturn will show danger in middle body/adams apple area/ upper chest/arms.

According to me his lagna is 2nd

drekkana and in Venus dasa Moon antardasa (Moon is 8th lord, Venus is 6th lord,

Saturn is karaka for both 6th & 8th houses, so its results will be seen),

he almost choked to death. The choking was caused by the Moon with Rahu as Moon

is karaka for sustenance and food and is in debility as 8th lord and with Rahu.

He lived due to Guru in 3rd house as

lagna lord in marana karaka sthana and whenever he is about to die, Guru will

save him for a higher purpose...strange way to remind someone that he hasn't

appeared inthis planet to just play soccer and leave.

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri

752001, India

Phone: +91.6752.226269

Swee Chan

[swee]

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:49

AM

varahamihira

RE: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Asthma & Wheezing...

Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Brendan,

I love it! It got my mind

reeling…………..

The 1st Chapter of Devi

Bhagavata says this: just as the organ of taste is satisfied then and then only

when it tastes the six kinds of rasas. A blind man eats to keep himself alive,

his sense of smell (Mercury) and taste (Venus) remains intact. As for us, the

pleasure is derived in looking (Sun) and the food and vivid imagination (Moon)

takes over (salivary glands). That begins from the 1st house. 2nd

house maybe the intake of food (Taurus) yet I am hard pressed to think that the

mouth and the beginning of the gullet is not part of the face (1st

house).

I am also not refuting the fact that the

arm is identified as the 3rd house in Kalapurusha and later hints on

drekkana and body parts; this I’ve posted a couple of days ago J.

Each of these signs are broken up into 3 parts; 0-10 degrees and so on.

Depending on whether they are even signs or odd signs, specific parts either on

the left or right are indicated.

Love,

Swee

Bpfeeley

[bpfeeley]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:16

PM

varahamihira

Re: |Sri Varaha| Re:

Asthma & Wheezing...

In a message dated 4/10/05 12:59:27 A.M.

Eastern Standard Time, swee

writes:

Swee,

This is in jest but I heard of a very

renounced Tantric who dressed only in black once talk about this " you are

what you eat. " Somebody asked him about the proper diet for a human being

and he said that " if you eat vegetables you become a vegetable, if you eat

chicken you become a chicken, you eat cows you become a cow and if you eat

human beings you become a human being. "

The onlookers were shocked.

He then proceeded to say, that " you

people are very naive " and then began his long philosophical discourses

about the nature of the universe and gave those present the most exquisite

experience of the Divine Mother.

Best Regards,

Brendan

The truth in the saying " you are

what you eat " begins from the

5th.............now don't remind me that the 1st is where the food gets

masticated, nor that the lagna and the Sun is where we really look at the

overall status of one's health, in Mars for one's vitality.......

Swee

ramapriya_d [ayirpamar]

Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:41 AM

varahamihira

|Sri Varaha| Re: Asthma & Wheezing...

varahamihira ,

Bpfeeley@A... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/9/05 4:44:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> visti@s... writes:

>

> Does the 5th house have anything to do with hypertension? Without

a doubt.

>

> All the best,

> Brendan

Hi Brendan,

Hypertension is elevated pressure in arteries, which are vessels that

carry blood from the heart to all of the tissues and organs of the

body. High blood pressure does not mean excessive emotional tension,

which the fifth house could indicate, although emotional tension and

stress can temporarily increase the blood pressure.

My uneducated guess would be to look primarily at afflictions to the

karaka for circulation, and since hypertension is an upshot of an

endocrinal glitch, look up Jupiter too (remember the recent thread on

my group?) and most importantly the d-chart that shows hereditary

characteristics. Like they say, the dirt is all in the jeans (sic)

Do continue this thread, Brendan, though I won't be on the list

awhile now, but will doubtless catch up later.

Cheers,

Ramapriya

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April 12, 2005

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Dear Brenden Ji and Chi.Visti,

I read both of your mails regarding Asthama and Wheezing. 5th house rules belly or stomach and hence the reason for Asthama was from stomach.Kataka Rashi rules chest/lungs/heart etc.Shukra is 3rd and 8th lord placed in 5th along with Rahu there and aspected by Ketu afflicted Shani (V).Shukra is Jala Tattwa and Rahu is Vaayu ( like cyclone ) Tattwa and Shani is Sheetala and hence the problems connected with Asthama.Rahu brings breathing trouble.Now look at the Nakshatra of these 2 planets and it is Ashlesha ruled by Budha.Ashlesha rules problems connected with liver/indigestion among other problems dropsy,body pain etc.Now Budha,the Nakshatra lord signifies brain( central nervous system ),skin,throat ,nose,lungs, bronchial tubes,larynx,intestines etc.Budha is the Badhakdhipaty for the chart and afflicts 5th lord Chandra being both of them in Rohini Nakshtra ruled by

Chandra,the 5th lord.Now we know 6th house rules dieases,difficulties etc., its lord Surya is in 4th house in Ardra Nakshatra ruled by Rahu who is in 5th house aspected by Ketu afflicted Shani indicates long lasting breathing problems like Asthama.Here the aspect of Shani has created such a long lasting disease.Here Shani is also in the Nakshtra of Shravana ruled by Chandra,the lord of 5th and Kataka Rashi and this clearly confirms Asthama.

Now let us consider Lagna lord Guru who is placed in 12th,in the Nakshatra of Shatabhisha ruled by Rahu and Rahu is in 5th in Kataka Rashi aspected by Shani (V) afflicted by Ketu also indicates the same disease.

There are very strict remedies also given in classics which is difficult to perform nowadays.The reason for this disease is due to Shishu Hatya ( Killing of child )in past life.

I hope this helps.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

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Dear Brendan, Namaskar

How can you say that the problem started in the stomach? Only because of fifth house? Infact here Venus is eighth lord and is placed in Cancer.

The basic rule is that the house (and drekkana) of the sixth lord and sign of the eighth lord causes the disease.

In the sixth house chapter, Parasara gives a few exceptions to the placement of the sixth lord: if it is in the first (actual word is own sign), sixth or eighth houses, then the sign indicated by the sixth house will indicate the problem area.

So Cancer rules the chest, and Rahu there will cause breathing problems. It is particularly because rahu is in the third kauluka, making the problem internal (nodes invariably give the results of the planets they are joined).

Instead in Sanjayjiâ€™s chart, the eighth lord is in Cancer and is joined the Sun, so breathing is not a problem, instead the problem could be related to the heart. Again we can confirm that it is internal because Venus itself is in an internal kauluka. Since Venus is in the third kauluka this may be due to blood problems, i.e. blood pressure.

Looking at the sixth lord Sun, it is placed in the fifth house and in the 2nd drekkana from lagna, again indicating the heart area (sixth and eigtih house is stomach), specifically right side of the heart.

Your comments are very welcome.

Best wishes,

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