Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 ... hamsasso.aham .. Dear Jyotishas, I am quoting a portion of a mail by S Jayanarayanan which was posted to a public mailing list earlier today. ajit Every now and then, I have been posting some letters that I received from a very knowledgeable Vedic scholar. I usually ask some questions which are answered by him with great clarity. Here are answers to some more questions, many of which have their source in list discussions. .. . . (3) [This is regarding the sUrya namaskaara mantra spoken of in a previous letter as not referring to sUrya -- which deity do the mantras refer to?] The question should be, " Why did people adopt these mantras for sUrya namaskara? " The aruNaprashna, which occurs as the first prashna in our taittirIya AraNyaka, refers to a sacrifice called the aaruNaketuka chayana in which the main deity is ApaH (water). The whole prashna is devoted to the extolling of ApaH, but since agni and sUrya are also sources of water (sun being instrumental in the formation of clouds), you find some mantras extolling them also as they are indirectly sources of water. There are mantras and BrAhmaNas in that prashna. Some of our ancestors (I cannot tell you when exactly in might have happened, but it cannot be earlier than vidyAraNya's time ~1300AD) have confused the aruNa shabda in the prashna with the mythological sUrya's charioteer. (The aruNa in the prashna refers to the Rishis by that name who revealed the aruNaprashnaH). Then they must have also concluded that the whole prashna belongs to sUrya and may have started performing sUrya namaskaara (At that time they must have been completely unaware of the meanings of those mantras as shAyaNa bhAshhya was known only much later). They have started with the habit of performing one namaskaara for every hanas (The whole prashna is divided into hanas and anuvAkas to facilitate the student to learn in by heart). A hanas consists of ten sentences ... Many a hanas ends abruptly in a mantra...They stop the recitation there and perform a namaskaara. There is no meaning as to why the mantras should be used in this manner. Moreover, there are so many BrAhmaNa sentences which never should be utilized for a kriyaa. The BrAhmaNas are not mantras or prayers, but only some ritualistic explanations. Performance of sUrya namaskaara reciting that prashna is not being true to the spirit of the mantra. It just shows how our actions never synchronize with what we speak...There are many mantras for sUrya bhagavAn. There are two or three sUktas for sUrya in the R^igveda. All of them are prayers to sUrya. One can recite them and perform the sUryanamaskaara. It will be more meaningful. Just because this practice of performing sUryanamaskaara with the recitation of aruNaprashna is prevalent amongst south-Indians for the last 300 years or so (I can't say exactly), it cannot be taken as a rule... The same thing happened with the navagraha mantras too. In the Vedas, we never find any mention of the grahAH (planets), let alone their prayers. Somewhere, when the phala jyotishha became popular in our country, there was a belief that one's future can be changed by propitiating the grahAH who were supposed to be responsible for one's future...Propitiation means pUjA and homa. With their abundant respect and devotion to the Vedas they could never get satisfied without the use of Veda mantras in pUja or homa, and so have chosen the mantras from the Vedas as prayers to the nava grahAH. As I already mentioned, there are no mantras in the Vedas for the grahAH. None of the mantras in the nava graha mantras have any relation to the grahAH, all of them belong to some other devatA. In some, you find only the letters that we use to designate the grahAH. Only the mantra for Aditya or ravi seems to be appropriate in the nava graha mantra. Even there sUrya is referred to as a star and not as a graha in the mantra... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Ajit, Some comments below, > With their abundant respect and devotion to the Vedas they could never get > satisfied without the use of Veda mantras in pUja or homa, and so have > chosen the mantras from the Vedas as prayers to the nava grahAH. As I > already mentioned, there are no mantras in the Vedas for the grahAH. None of > the mantras in the nava graha mantras have any relation to the grahAH, all > of them belong to some other devatA. In some, you find only the letters that > we use to designate the grahAH. Only the mantra for Aditya or ravi seems to > be appropriate in the nava graha mantra. Even there sUrya is referred to as > a star and not as a graha in the mantra... Sanjay P : I think one should also refer to the puranas and Itihaasa when trying to figure out these mantras. The Puranas have abundant references to Nava grahas. The 4 Vedas I think can be taken as a higher form and the actual implementation for common people, who do not read Brahamanas, is given more in Purana and Itihaas. In fact I think all the adi devata and pratyadi devata's are in Vedas and more Graha level is in Puranas and Itihaas. Each is a different level one cannot conclude just using the texts of 4 Vedas', One has to use Puraanas and Itihass for complete understanding. In fact Puranas(Also Parasara) clearly do say that Prayers to Navagraha reduce karmic pain. I will try to get some references later. But, There is a book called Navagraha Kosha written by Prof. Ramachandra Rao. With lots of references to Navagraha worship from various texts. Warm Regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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