Contradicting Parasara? (Third house body part - Parasara)

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Pranaam Sanjay,

 

> Secondly, even if the whole world of astrologers is on one side and Parasara> is on the other, believe me I will stick to Parasara..after all He is> Krishna Dwipaayana Vedavyasa's father and a Vedavyasa himself of an earlier> era. The third house is arms and this is the most crucial part of the third> house. The word 'bahu' is unambiguous.

I agree with you on following Parasara and ignoring others (including the great Varahamihira!), when others contradict Parasara. However, we need to distinguish between situations where other authors are SUPPLEMENTING Parasara's teachings and where they are CONTRADICTING.

 

For example, if one authority says that the 2nd house shows wealth and another authority says that the 2nd house shows speech, they are not contradicting each other. They are merely supplementing each other's teachings. Both are correct.

 

When Parasara says that the third house stands for hands, you cannot conclude that it stands for hands ALONE and nothing else. The question is simple. When Parasara said that the 3rd house stands for hands, did he explicitly say that it does not stand for anything else? If not, can you use Parasara's name to prove Varahamihira wrong?

 

In fact, there are too many highly respected classics that link chest to the 3rd house. You have to think hard before rejecting that view. For example, "Brihat Jatakam", "Phala Deepika", "Jataka Parijatam" and "Sarvartha Chintamani" all teach that the 3rd house is the chest of Kaala Purusha. You seem to think that this is a contradiction of Parasara. But, if someone else thinks that there is no contradiction and only supplementing of teachings, I have no valid reason to dismiss them.

 

> Now we all know that hrid means heart (the> physical heart) and this is also referring to the seat of the soul and> the seat where the emotions of the mana are digested. So what about> the lungs and chest reagion? Well logically heart is in the chest> region.

 

This is a very good and interesting point!

 

 

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om gurave namah

Dear Narasimha & Lakshmi

Puri is so cooling - thank god I am here. You cannot imagine how it feels when one leaves a city where blood has replaced water time and again. Delhi sure has some very heavy karma.

 

Of course, of course. Please see my mail where I have not only talked about 3rd but ALSO SECOND house for breathing. How can we breathe without a hole in the face. Why only third house - in fact it covers 2,3 & 4.

 

Lakshmi is right about the 3rd house and she has *not yet* given the argument about the Kalachakra where Rahu is opposite to Mercury and hence Rahu is prime cause of all chest related complications which come under Gemini which is the *Vayu Rasi*. Breathing has to do wtih gemini but the distribution of oxygen has to do with Cancer.

 

Now which of these is getting afflicted and why and which Nadi and which Srota and whihc dhatu...I don't know as I am not so good with all this medical terms. I aways hated this subject as I was frightened of cutting frogs in school. Thank god I never did it.

 

Now those of you who are good at cutting frogs and the like should discuss this and arrive at some final conclusion. I have contributed what I know and beyond this Brendan alone can do some good.

 

Lakshmi, honestly we are better off sticking to Spirituality and normal things in Jyotish as this Ayurveda is one area if I indulge in too much many could die...

 

With kind regards,

Sanjay Rath

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Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr] Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:58 AMvarahamihira Cc: lakshmi ramesh|Sri Varaha| Contradicting Parasara? (Re: Third house body part - Parasara)

 

Pranaam Sanjay,

 

> Secondly, even if the whole world of astrologers is on one side and Parasara> is on the other, believe me I will stick to Parasara..after all He is> Krishna Dwipaayana Vedavyasa's father and a Vedavyasa himself of an earlier> era. The third house is arms and this is the most crucial part of the third> house. The word 'bahu' is unambiguous.

I agree with you on following Parasara and ignoring others (including the great Varahamihira!), when others contradict Parasara. However, we need to distinguish between situations where other authors are SUPPLEMENTING Parasara's teachings and where they are CONTRADICTING.

 

For example, if one authority says that the 2nd house shows wealth and another authority says that the 2nd house shows speech, they are not contradicting each other. They are merely supplementing each other's teachings. Both are correct.

 

When Parasara says that the third house stands for hands, you cannot conclude that it stands for hands ALONE and nothing else. The question is simple. When Parasara said that the 3rd house stands for hands, did he explicitly say that it does not stand for anything else? If not, can you use Parasara's name to prove Varahamihira wrong?

 

In fact, there are too many highly respected classics that link chest to the 3rd house. You have to think hard before rejecting that view. For example, "Brihat Jatakam", "Phala Deepika", "Jataka Parijatam" and "Sarvartha Chintamani" all teach that the 3rd house is the chest of Kaala Purusha. You seem to think that this is a contradiction of Parasara. But, if someone else thinks that there is no contradiction and only supplementing of teachings, I have no valid reason to dismiss them.

 

> Now we all know that hrid means heart (the> physical heart) and this is also referring to the seat of the soul and> the seat where the emotions of the mana are digested. So what about> the lungs and chest reagion? Well logically heart is in the chest> region.

 

This is a very good and interesting point!

 

 

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Gurudeva,

 

You are cute..God bless you!

 

I really don't know if one ought to say things like

that to one's Guru, but I feel like saying it very

much! Please forgive me this once.

 

Yes, for folks like us, spirituality is the best.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

--- Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote:

 

>

>

> om gurave namah

> Dear Narasimha & Lakshmi

> Puri is so cooling - thank god I am here. You cannot

> imagine how it feels

> when one leaves a city where blood has replaced

> water time and again. Delhi

> sure has some very heavy karma.

>

> Of course, of course. Please see my mail where I

> have not only talked about

> 3rd but ALSO SECOND house for breathing. How can we

> breathe without a hole

> in the face. Why only third house - in fact it

> covers 2,3 & 4.

>

> Lakshmi is right about the 3rd house and she has

> *not yet* given the

> argument about the Kalachakra where Rahu is opposite

> to Mercury and hence

> Rahu is prime cause of all chest related

> complications which come under

> Gemini which is the *Vayu Rasi*. Breathing has to do

> wtih gemini but the

> distribution of oxygen has to do with Cancer.

>

> Now which of these is getting afflicted and why and

> which Nadi and which

> Srota and whihc dhatu...I don't know as I am not so

> good with all this

> medical terms. I aways hated this subject as I was

> frightened of cutting

> frogs in school. Thank god I never did it.

>

> Now those of you who are good at cutting frogs and

> the like should discuss

> this and arrive at some final conclusion. I have

> contributed what I know and

> beyond this Brendan alone can do some good.

>

> Lakshmi, honestly we are better off sticking to

> Spirituality and normal

> things in Jyotish as this Ayurveda is one area if I

> indulge in too much many

> could die...

>

> With kind regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> Webpages: <http://srath.com/> http://srath.com

> <http://.org/>

> http://.org

> SJC Puri: 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

> Phone: +91.6752.226269

>

>

> _____

>

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr]

> Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:58 AM

> varahamihira

> Cc: lakshmi ramesh

> |Sri Varaha| Contradicting Parasara? (Re:

> Third house body part -

> Parasara)

>

>

> Pranaam Sanjay,

>

> > Secondly, even if the whole world of astrologers

> is on one side and

> Parasara

> > is on the other, believe me I will stick to

> Parasara..after all He is

> > Krishna Dwipaayana Vedavyasa's father and a

> Vedavyasa himself of an

> earlier

> > era. The third house is arms and this is the most

> crucial part of the

> third

> > house. The word 'bahu' is unambiguous.

>

> I agree with you on following Parasara and ignoring

> others (including the

> great Varahamihira!), when others contradict

> Parasara. However, we need to

> distinguish between situations where other authors

> are SUPPLEMENTING

> Parasara's teachings and where they are

> CONTRADICTING.

>

> For example, if one authority says that the 2nd

> house shows wealth and

> another authority says that the 2nd house shows

> speech, they are not

> contradicting each other. They are merely

> supplementing each other's

> teachings. Both are correct.

>

> When Parasara says that the third house stands for

> hands, you cannot

> conclude that it stands for hands ALONE and nothing

> else. The question is

> simple. When Parasara said that the 3rd house stands

> for hands, did he

> explicitly say that it does not stand for anything

> else? If not, can you use

> Parasara's name to prove Varahamihira wrong?

>

> In fact, there are too many highly respected

> classics that link chest to the

> 3rd house. You have to think hard before rejecting

> that view. For example,

> " Brihat Jatakam " , " Phala Deepika " , " Jataka

> Parijatam " and " Sarvartha

> Chintamani " all teach that the 3rd house is the

> chest of Kaala Purusha. You

> seem to think that this is a contradiction of

> Parasara. But, if someone else

> thinks that there is no contradiction and only

> supplementing of teachings, I

> have no valid reason to dismiss them.

>

> > Now we all know that hrid means heart (the

> > physical heart) and this is also referring to the

> seat of the soul and

> > the seat where the emotions of the mana are

> digested. So what about

> > the lungs and chest reagion? Well logically heart

> is in the chest

> > region.

>

> This is a very good and interesting point!

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

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