Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I have some comment to your analysis below. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao 20 April 2005 05:30 To: vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; SJC List; [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Namaste friends, > I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of the new pope. My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: 2005 April 19 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara (weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala (weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars. He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy will last long. [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted, then longevity will be long – This is also applied in the method of three pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems, but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they will give their auspicious results – he states that this applies to both natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This is not the problem. More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at 27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas, especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a change of guard in a short time. [Visti] This is agreeable. Notice that Tithi and Vara are both lorded by Mars, this causes Mars to suffer from a type of gandanta dosha which will impair the health because Mars is vära lord. As for the charakaraka parivartana, Saturn being the amätyakäraka is placed in the tenth house, hence confirming that the chara karaka replacement also causes a change on the throne. The tenth lord being debilitated and joined Rahu indicates that the current pope is indeed weak and aged So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived. [Visti] This is a muhürta, and when planets are in the eighth house AND chara karaka parivartana occurs, then definitely the muhürta will be shortlived. * * * Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl, Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The birthdata I am taking is: 1927 April 16 6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00) Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15) Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong, authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa (occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas). Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a person of the stature of maharshis. [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha lagna in the calculation of vaisheshikamsa? [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart – good rectification. Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge (Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu). In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana. Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too! The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana). Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an impassionate keeper of dharma. In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer. As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military man. During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters. Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in Rahu dasa. Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies 6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental theology for most of Jupiter dasa. In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and shows writing. In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna) in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions during this antardasa!! Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa. I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work brilliantly in this case. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Narasimha, Visti, Namaste How did you get Mesa Lagna? Love, Swee varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:01 AM ; vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I have some comment to your analysis below. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao 20 April 2005 05:30 vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; SJC List; [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Namaste friends, > I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of the new pope. My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: 2005 April 19 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara (weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala (weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars. He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy will last long. [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted, then longevity will be long – This is also applied in the method of three pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems, but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they will give their auspicious results – he states that this applies to both natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This is not the problem. More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at 27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas, especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a change of guard in a short time. [Visti] This is agreeable. Notice that Tithi and Vara are both lorded by Mars, this causes Mars to suffer from a type of gandanta dosha which will impair the health because Mars is vära lord. As for the charakaraka parivartana, Saturn being the amätyakäraka is placed in the tenth house, hence confirming that the chara karaka replacement also causes a change on the throne. The tenth lord being debilitated and joined Rahu indicates that the current pope is indeed weak and aged So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived. [Visti] This is a muhürta, and when planets are in the eighth house AND chara karaka parivartana occurs, then definitely the muhürta will be shortlived. * * * Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl, Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The birthdata I am taking is: 1927 April 16 6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00) Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15) Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong, authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa (occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas). Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a person of the stature of maharshis. [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha lagna in the calculation of vaisheshikamsa? [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart – good rectification. Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge (Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu). In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana. Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too! The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana). Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an impassionate keeper of dharma. In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer. As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military man. During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters. Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in Rahu dasa. Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies 6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental theology for most of Jupiter dasa. In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and shows writing. In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna) in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions during this antardasa!! Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa. I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work brilliantly in this case. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 varahamihira , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste friends, > > My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! > > The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: > > 2005 April 19 > 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) > Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) > Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 > > Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). Dear Narasimha, Thank you very much for your nice attention. 17:50 was the time when the Pope appeared to the crowd but he was actually the new Pope since 17:30 which is the time recorded inside when he expressly accepted his mission. Yours, gratefully and respectfully Pierre-Olivier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti I think the birth time of 4.15 am is more accurate as the navamsa lagna is in the 12th house from Karakamsa. Karakamsa has Jup+Ketu yoga which shows the headship of the spiritual/religious institution. Dharma devata Saturn (orthodox) is with Mars in Scorpio making him a very orthodox person and a strong believer (Mars) and follower of the old traditions (Saturn). Election has occured in Mercury dasa Saturn antardasa.Merc is debilitated in 6th from AL and Saturn retrogrades in 2nd from AL and is lagnesh in 10th house. In Dasamsa Saturn is yogakaraka with Jupiter while Mercury is 9th lord. Ketu dasa starts from November this year. We have cause to worry about his health. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:31 PM ; vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; Subject: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I have some comment to your analysis below. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao20 April 2005 05:30vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; SJC List; Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Namaste friends, > I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of the new pope. My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: 2005 April 19 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara (weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala (weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars. He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy will last long. [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted, then longevity will be long – This is also applied in the method of three pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems, but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they will give their auspicious results – he states that this applies to both natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This is not the problem. More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at 27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas, especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a change of guard in a short time. [Visti] This is agreeable. Notice that Tithi and Vara are both lorded by Mars, this causes Mars to suffer from a type of gandanta dosha which will impair the health because Mars is vära lord. As for the charakaraka parivartana, Saturn being the amätyakäraka is placed in the tenth house, hence confirming that the chara karaka replacement also causes a change on the throne. The tenth lord being debilitated and joined Rahu indicates that the current pope is indeed weak and aged So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived. [Visti] This is a muhürta, and when planets are in the eighth house AND chara karaka parivartana occurs, then definitely the muhürta will be shortlived. * * * Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl, Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The birthdata I am taking is: 1927 April 16 6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00)Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15) Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong, authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa (occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas). Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a person of the stature of maharshis. [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha lagna in the calculation of vaisheshikamsa? [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart – good rectification. Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge (Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu). In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana. Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too! The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana). Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an impassionate keeper of dharma. In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer. As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military man. During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters. Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in Rahu dasa. Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies 6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental theology for most of Jupiter dasa. In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and shows writing. In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna) in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions during this antardasa!! Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa. I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work brilliantly in this case. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha-------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guruji, Namaskar 4.15 is much better. With the previous chart i was looking for the simhasan yoga and other raja yoga, but of no avail. Now i noticed that Sun is in the seventh from arudha lagna and exalted, whilst placed in the fifth house in dvadasamsa. Isn’t this a yoga for being abandoned by father? Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath 22 April 2005 08:15 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti I think the birth time of 4.15 am is more accurate as the navamsa lagna is in the 12th house from Karakamsa. Karakamsa has Jup+Ketu yoga which shows the headship of the spiritual/religious institution. Dharma devata Saturn (orthodox) is with Mars in Scorpio making him a very orthodox person and a strong believer (Mars) and follower of the old traditions (Saturn). Election has occured in Mercury dasa Saturn antardasa.Merc is debilitated in 6th from AL and Saturn retrogrades in 2nd from AL and is lagnesh in 10th house. In Dasamsa Saturn is yogakaraka with Jupiter while Mercury is 9th lord. Ketu dasa starts from November this year. We have cause to worry about his health. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:31 PM ; vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I have some comment to your analysis below. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao 20 April 2005 05:30 To: vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; SJC List; [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Namaste friends, > I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of the new pope. My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: 2005 April 19 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara (weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala (weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars. He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy will last long. [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted, then longevity will be long – This is also applied in the method of three pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems, but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they will give their auspicious results – he states that this applies to both natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This is not the problem. More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at 27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas, especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a change of guard in a short time. [Visti] This is agreeable. Notice that Tithi and Vara are both lorded by Mars, this causes Mars to suffer from a type of gandanta dosha which will impair the health because Mars is vära lord. As for the charakaraka parivartana, Saturn being the amätyakäraka is placed in the tenth house, hence confirming that the chara karaka replacement also causes a change on the throne. The tenth lord being debilitated and joined Rahu indicates that the current pope is indeed weak and aged So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived. [Visti] This is a muhürta, and when planets are in the eighth house AND chara karaka parivartana occurs, then definitely the muhürta will be shortlived. * * * Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl, Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The birthdata I am taking is: 1927 April 16 6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00) Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15) Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong, authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa (occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas). Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a person of the stature of maharshis. [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha lagna in the calculation of vaisheshikamsa? [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart – good rectification. Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge (Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu). In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana. Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too! The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana). Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an impassionate keeper of dharma. In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer. As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military man. During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters. Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in Rahu dasa. Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies 6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental theology for most of Jupiter dasa. In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and shows writing. In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna) in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions during this antardasa!! Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa. I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work brilliantly in this case. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti It can also be a yoga for renunciation (which is a different form of manifestation of the same thing that you say). In this case it gives high spirituality or the headship of a city like Karna got *Anga desha*. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Friday, April 22, 2005 12:07 PMvarahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guruji, Namaskar 4.15 is much better. With the previous chart i was looking for the simhasan yoga and other raja yoga, but of no avail. Now i noticed that Sun is in the seventh from arudha lagna and exalted, whilst placed in the fifth house in dvadasamsa. Isn’t this a yoga for being abandoned by father? Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath22 April 2005 08:15varahamihira Subject: RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti I think the birth time of 4.15 am is more accurate as the navamsa lagna is in the 12th house from Karakamsa. Karakamsa has Jup+Ketu yoga which shows the headship of the spiritual/religious institution. Dharma devata Saturn (orthodox) is with Mars in Scorpio making him a very orthodox person and a strong believer (Mars) and follower of the old traditions (Saturn). Election has occured in Mercury dasa Saturn antardasa.Merc is debilitated in 6th from AL and Saturn retrogrades in 2nd from AL and is lagnesh in 10th house. In Dasamsa Saturn is yogakaraka with Jupiter while Mercury is 9th lord. Ketu dasa starts from November this year. We have cause to worry about his health. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:31 PM ; vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; Subject: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I have some comment to your analysis below. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao20 April 2005 05:30vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; SJC List; Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Namaste friends, > I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of the new pope. My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: 2005 April 19 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara (weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala (weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars. He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy will last long. [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted, then longevity will be long – This is also applied in the method of three pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems, but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they will give their auspicious results – he states that this applies to both natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This is not the problem. More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at 27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas, especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a change of guard in a short time. [Visti] This is agreeable. Notice that Tithi and Vara are both lorded by Mars, this causes Mars to suffer from a type of gandanta dosha which will impair the health because Mars is vära lord. As for the charakaraka parivartana, Saturn being the amätyakäraka is placed in the tenth house, hence confirming that the chara karaka replacement also causes a change on the throne. The tenth lord being debilitated and joined Rahu indicates that the current pope is indeed weak and aged So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived. [Visti] This is a muhürta, and when planets are in the eighth house AND chara karaka parivartana occurs, then definitely the muhürta will be shortlived. * * * Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl, Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The birthdata I am taking is: 1927 April 16 6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00)Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15) Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong, authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa (occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas). Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a person of the stature of maharshis. [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha lagna in the calculation of vaisheshikamsa? [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart – good rectification. Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge (Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu). In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana. Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too! The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana). Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an impassionate keeper of dharma. In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer. As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military man. During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters. Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in Rahu dasa. Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies 6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental theology for most of Jupiter dasa. In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and shows writing. In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna) in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions during this antardasa!! Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa. I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work brilliantly in this case. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha-------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guruji, Namaskar Ahhh now i see. Sun being exalted in seventh from arudha lagna actually opens the doors to raja yoga, and at the same time causing the abandonement of father. That makes sense. In his Jagannath Drekkana, the third lord is the Sun and is again exalted but joined Ketu. Does this indicate his ability in ruling (sun) over a spiritual (ketu) organization/kingdom (aries)? Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath 22 April 2005 08:43 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti It can also be a yoga for renunciation (which is a different form of manifestation of the same thing that you say). In this case it gives high spirituality or the headship of a city like Karna got *Anga desha*. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Friday, April 22, 2005 12:07 PM varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guruji, Namaskar 4.15 is much better. With the previous chart i was looking for the simhasan yoga and other raja yoga, but of no avail. Now i noticed that Sun is in the seventh from arudha lagna and exalted, whilst placed in the fifth house in dvadasamsa. Isn’t this a yoga for being abandoned by father? Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of Sanjay Rath 22 April 2005 08:15 varahamihira RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti I think the birth time of 4.15 am is more accurate as the navamsa lagna is in the 12th house from Karakamsa. Karakamsa has Jup+Ketu yoga which shows the headship of the spiritual/religious institution. Dharma devata Saturn (orthodox) is with Mars in Scorpio making him a very orthodox person and a strong believer (Mars) and follower of the old traditions (Saturn). Election has occured in Mercury dasa Saturn antardasa.Merc is debilitated in 6th from AL and Saturn retrogrades in 2nd from AL and is lagnesh in 10th house. In Dasamsa Saturn is yogakaraka with Jupiter while Mercury is 9th lord. Ketu dasa starts from November this year. We have cause to worry about his health. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:31 PM ; vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Narasimha, Namaskar I have some comment to your analysis below. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao 20 April 2005 05:30 To: vedic astrology ; varahamihira ; SJC List; [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of Pope Benedict XVI Namaste friends, > I see no-one has commented on the appointment today of the new pope. My best wishes to our catholic friends on this auspicious occasion of Pope Benedit XVI's Urbi et Orbi blessing! The time at which he seems to have accepted his election is: 2005 April 19 17:50 (TZ: 2:00 east) Vatican, Italy (41n54, 12e2) Moon: 9Le18, Asc: 12Vi11 Lagna has Jupiter and Ketu in it. This is auspicious for spreading the genuine knowledge of some parampara (tradition/lineage). The five panchanga elements correspond to five elements. Vaara (weekday) corresponds to agni tattva (fire). Thus, vaara bala (weekday strength) is important for longevity. Weekday lord is Mars. He is the exalted 8th lord. It does not suggest that this papacy will last long. [Visti] Parasara states that if eighth lord is well placed or even exalted, then longevity will be long – This is also applied in the method of three pairs. You may argue that the eighth lord when strong will cause problems, but Harihara states in Prasna Marga, that when the planets are strong they will give their auspicious results – he states that this applies to both natal and prasna charts. Further being Vara lord and in the fifth house, it means the digestive fire is excellent and excellent health is promised. This is not the problem. More importantly, there is chara karaka parivartana!!! Mars at 27Cp45 is AK (chara atma karaka) and 27Ge12 is the AmK (chara amatya karaka). Though Mars is the AK at the beginning, he will be replaced by Saturn in due course. Such a replacement of chara karakas, especially involving AK, is considered very inauspicious. It shows a change of guard in a short time. [Visti] This is agreeable. Notice that Tithi and Vara are both lorded by Mars, this causes Mars to suffer from a type of gandanta dosha which will impair the health because Mars is vära lord. As for the charakaraka parivartana, Saturn being the amätyakäraka is placed in the tenth house, hence confirming that the chara karaka replacement also causes a change on the throne. The tenth lord being debilitated and joined Rahu indicates that the current pope is indeed weak and aged So I am afraid that this papacy will be quite short-lived. [Visti] This is a muhürta, and when planets are in the eighth house AND chara karaka parivartana occurs, then definitely the muhürta will be shortlived. * * * Now let us look at the chart of Pope himself. According to the Holy See website, The Holy Father was born on 1927 April 16 in Marktl, Germany. In a radio program I heard this evening, a Floridan theologian who was Holy Father's student said he was born in the morning on the Holy Saturday in 1927 and was baptised on the Easter morning. I saw that Aries and Taurus can be the rising signs and feel that Aries must be correct. I feel that lagna should be Ge in navamsa and dasamsa, Le in vimsamsa and Ta in shashtyamsa. The birthdata I am taking is: 1927 April 16 6:33:40 am ( TZ: 2:00) Marktl, Germany (12e5, 48n15) Aries rises with exalted Sun in it. This makes him a strong, authoritative and enterprising person. That Sun is in Brahmalokamsa (occupies own/exaltation/moolatrikona sign in 8 out of 10 vargas). Whether one agress with his views and teachings or not, he is undoubtedly a man of great intellect and character (assuming the chart is correct). A planet in Brahmalokamsa in a quadrant shows a person of the stature of maharshis. [Visti] What is your current view on the use of the arudha lagna in the calculation of vaisheshikamsa? [Visti] In concur with your choice for the popes chart – good rectification. Navamsa has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna, showing. Pope John Paul II had kartari of Jupiter and Ketu on lagna in navamsa. Pope Benedict XVI has Jupiter and Ketu in lagna in navamsa. This shows that his dharma (navamsa) involves spreading traditional religious knowledge (Jupiter) coming in a lineage (Ketu). In dasamsa, Gemini rises. The 10th lord Jupiter is in a dasamsa ruled by Ananta (shows spiritual rise) and the 10th house has exalted 5th/12th lord Venus, who is in a dasamsa ruled by Isaana. Isaana is an auspicioud form Shiva and planets in Isaana's dasamsa show religious professions. You can see planets in Isaana's dasamsa involved with lagna or 10th house in dasamsa in the chart of Pope John Paul II and several Shankaracharyas too! The 5th lord Venus in Isaana's dasamsa in 10th house shows a passionate (rajasik - Venus) priest and religious preacher (Isaana). Lagna and 4 planets in a dasamsa ruled by Yama show a disciplinarian. Yama [Dharmaraja] is the keeper of dharma in Hinduism. Planets in Yama's dasamsa show discipline and impassionate and unemotional adherence of dharma. He is a disciplinarian and an impassionate keeper of dharma. In dwadasamsa (D-12), Ge rises. The 9th house is Aq and should be taken as lagna to see father. The 10th from Aq is Sc. It is empty and Mars owns it. His father was a police officer. As he has Sun in lagna, Shashtihayani dasa applies. During Saturn-Mars antardasa, he was called was called into the auxiliary anti-aircraft service in Germany. In D-10 (chart of profession), Saturn and Mars (two malefics) are in 6th and 3rd houses. Especially, Mars is the 6th lord in 3rd with Rahu in Yama's dasamsa. Such a Mars can show work in the military. Thus, Mars antardasa made him a military man. During 1946-1951, he studied philosophy and theology. This corresponds to Rahu's shashtihayani dasa (1946-1952). In D-24 (chart of education), the 4th house shows basic education, 9th house (6th from 4th) shows specialized education such as bachelor's degree and the 2nd house (6th from 9th) shows focussed study such as masters. Rahu is the 2nd lord in 2nd and shows master's degree in some Aquarian subjects (such as philosophy). No wonder it happened in Rahu dasa. Next dasa was that of Jupiter. Jupiter is the 12th lord in D-24 and shows giving knowledge. He is the 10th lord in D-10 and occupies 6th. Thus, he shows teaching profession. He was teaching fundamental theology for most of Jupiter dasa. In the next dasa of Sun, he became well-known thru various publications and papers. Sun is the exalted 3rd lord in D-10 and shows writing. In March 1977, he was elected as the Archbishop of Munich and Freising. In June 1977, he was proclaimed Cardinal by Pope Paul VI. Both were during Mars-Venus antardasa. Mars is in GL (ghatika lagna) in D-10. He is also in A5. While the 5th house shows the intangible abilities, its arudha pada shows a tangible expression/manifestation of abilities. Venus is the exalted 5th lord. Mars is in A5 and Venus is the 5th lord. So he had several achievements and recognitions during this antardasa!! Interestingly, it is now Mars antardasa in Venus mahadasa! Mars-Venus made him a cardinal. Venus-Mars made him a pope! He became a teacher in Jupiter mahadasa and he became a Dean of the college of cardinals in Jupiter antardasa in Venus mahadasa. I am reasonably comfortable with the speculative birthdata I presented in this article and shashtihayani dasa seems to work brilliantly in this case. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Sanjay, Visti & Narasimha, Namaste. i thought of sharing some observations in this chart. Date of birth:- April 16th, 1927 Time of birth:- 4:13:21 Place of birth:- Marktl, Germany Janma Nakshatra:- Hasta 4th pada Janma Thithi:- Pournamasya Bhuktha Thithi Rasi & Sphuta:- Mesha - 26deg 16mts 48secs - Bharani 4th pada Kumba lagna rises with Guru the Atmakaraka. Sani the co-owner of Kumba is posited in 10th in Vrischika in the nakshatra anuradha(pada 4). Sani is in nakshatra veda to this Bhuktha thithi sphuta. Sani is in Vakra gathi. These factors make one thing clear and that is Sani has a definite role in causing this birth. Let me make an attempt to peep into the Shastyamsa. Mesha lagna rises with the lagna lord Mars placed in Kataka. This means that the birth has taken place in an eastern direction as a female(gender). The presence of Lagna lord in a chara rasi and placement of Moon in 12th alongwith the badhaka Sani in 12 aspected by Rahu from 8th and Guru the 9th & 12th lord give us an indication that the native ought to have moved out of the janmadesha(country). The combination of UL and A7 give an indication of the marital bond. The presence of AL in 8th to UL and A7 give further indication of separation from the spouse/mukthi from the bondage. The presence of Mars in the 4th indicates the mental unrest which fact is confirmed by the association of Sani with Moon and the aspect of Rahu on such a depressed Moon. The decision of the native to lay her life(AK Guru placed in the 3rd from AL) in the service of Lord might have a caused a lot of agitation in the mind of Mother and the spouse. This deep routed agony in the minds of Mother and Spouse has caused this effect of rebirth. (Sani is associated with Moon and is subject to the aspect of Rahu from vrischika - Maatri saapa. Sani also influences Venus placed in Vrishabha alongwith Ketu - Kalatra saapa). Sani is the chara Matrikaraka. AK Guru is placed in Virgo. 12th rasi from AK is occupied by Sun who is the 5th lord. Sun is associated with Mrityupada and vikramapada. A8 gives a hint about resurrection feature and A3 gives a hint about the cross and Sun the holiest of holiest Son - the Jesus. The ista has played a great role in the native's life to the extent of her decision to lay her life in the service of ber beloved Lord. She was very much aware of her end in the past birth as Guru is placed in 3rd from AL. The past birth in nutshell gives an indication that the birth was a transition phase of drying up of love of personal level and springing up of universal love. It apparently gives an impression that the birth was a phase of separation from family bondings but it actually was a case of extending the size of family(the whole universe is our family - vasudeva kutumba). Let me come back to this birth. Lagna falls in rasi kshetra in the sign of Kumba where venus resides in amsa. This indicates about the special condion and circumstances under which the native has re-emerged into this world. Venus is placed in 4th in own Vrishabha indicating the Malavya yoga. Indeed the native is a Mahapurusha. Dwadasottari dasa is applicable for which Venus is the governor. Should not Venus be eligible to determine the time periods as he has after all caused the mahapurusha yoga for the native? We found a venusian curse in the past birth and we also found that the very same Venus has caused this Mahapursha Yoga to manifest. Is this not a benediction? During this birth the native should realise the full and complete features of emotions and emotional expectations of mother so as to facilitate the maatri saapa to take effect. Dwadasottari dasa and some life events:- 1. Family moves to tittmoning - 1929 - Sani/Mars 2. Famil moves to Traunstein(father's conflicts) - 1932 Moon/Moon. 3. Enrolled against his will in Hitler Youth - 1941 - Moon/Buda(buda in 7th to Maha dasa lord Moon - Maraka priniciple) 4.Drafted as helper in anti-aircraft unit, serves in battery unit in BMW plant - 1943 - Moon/Rahu(Rahu in airy sign and represents big machines). 5.Dismissed from Unit - returns home - leaves home because of forced labour to dig anti-tank trenches - released from labour force - returns home - 1944 - Moon/Rahu(period of AMK indicates to troubles to employers) 6. 3 weeks later receives army's draft notice - 1944 - Moon/Mars. 7.Deserts from army and returns home. Captured by Americans as war ends as POW. - 1945 - Moon/Mars/Sani(Sani is placed in the house of Mars and is under the domain of 'Vayu'. Whenever Sani is under the domain of 'Vayu' then during his period the naitive ends up taking undesireable directions). 8.Released from US POW camp and hitches a ride home on a milk truck - 1945 - Moon/Mars/Moon(milk truck). 9.Begins study for priesthood in Freising. - 1945 Moon/Mars/Moon - (in rasi Moon and Buda aspects each other mutually - in dasamsa Moon is placed in 3rd in close association with Buda - Moon is placed in 9th to Sun in dasamsa - in Siddhamsa Moon associated with Buda is placed in 12th to 9th while Mars is placed in 2nd to 9th house). 10.Ordained as priest alongwith his brother - 1951 - Moon/Sani/Mars.(Moon is the 10th lord from AL) 11.Receives a doctorate in theology - 1953 - Sun/Buda(Sun in airavataamsa in dasavarga). 12.Teaches theology - 1959 - Guru 13.Elected Archbishop - Elevated to Cardinal three months later - Ketu Mahadasa 14.Elected as " Pope " - 19th April 2005 - Annoucement around 6:45PM - Rahu/Buda/Mars/Rahu/Ketu/Moon(Moon is the 10th lord from Arudha lagna in rasi and is placed in kataka in navamsa). One set of Moola dasa has been completed by 15th April, 1996. This gives a hint that the karmas of the past was completely wiped out before he was elected as the Pope. As per kalachakra, Jeeva rasi dasa pisces is in progress where we find rahu posited(in kalachakra navamsa). This rahu is in 8th to AL(kalachakra navamsa). Incidentally this pisces happens to be the rudramsa lagna(hints about potential weakness of the lagna - a factor to be reckoned from the health point of view). As per shoola dasa he is running the dasa of Libra where AL is posited and antardasha of saggitarius where Ketu is posited. Sagittarius is 3rd from Mahadasa Libra. The pope needs to take care of his health during the period of Aquarius shoola pratyantara dasa. i am sorry for the length of this mail. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. --- Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > Ahhh now i see. Sun being exalted in seventh from > arudha lagna actually > opens the doors to raja yoga, and at the same time > causing the abandonement > of father. That makes sense. > > In his Jagannath Drekkana, the third lord is the Sun > and is again exalted > but joined Ketu. Does this indicate his ability in > ruling (sun) over a > spiritual (ketu) organization/kingdom (aries)? > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti > visti > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > varahamihira > [varahamihira ] On > Behalf Of Sanjay Rath > 22 April 2005 08:43 > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] > Chart of Pope Benedict XVI > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Visti > > It can also be a yoga for renunciation (which is a > different form of > manifestation of the same thing that you say). In > this case it gives high > spirituality or the headship of a city like Karna > got *Anga desha*. > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , > +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > _____ > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Friday, April 22, 2005 12:07 PM > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] > Chart of Pope Benedict XVI > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > 4.15 is much better. With the previous chart i was > looking for the simhasan > yoga and other raja yoga, but of no avail. > > Now i noticed that Sun is in the seventh from arudha > lagna and exalted, > whilst placed in the fifth house in dvadasamsa. > Isn’t this a yoga for being > abandoned by father? > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > Email: <visti > visti > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & > <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > _____ > > varahamihira > [varahamihira ] On > Behalf Of Sanjay Rath > 22 April 2005 08:15 > varahamihira > RE: |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] > Chart of Pope Benedict XVI > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Visti > > I think the birth time of 4.15 am is more accurate > as the navamsa lagna is > in the 12th house from Karakamsa. Karakamsa has > Jup+Ketu yoga which shows > the headship of the spiritual/religious institution. > > Dharma devata Saturn (orthodox) is with Mars in > Scorpio making him a very > orthodox person and a strong believer (Mars) and > follower of the old > traditions (Saturn). > > Election has occured in Mercury dasa Saturn > antardasa.Merc is debilitated in > 6th from AL and Saturn retrogrades in 2nd from AL > and is lagnesh in 10th > house. > > In Dasamsa Saturn is yogakaraka with Jupiter while > Mercury is 9th lord. > > Ketu dasa starts from November this year. We have > cause to worry about his > health. > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath Center® > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , > +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > _____ > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:31 PM > ; > vedic astrology ; > varahamihira ; > > |Sri Varaha| RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Chart of > Pope Benedict XVI > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Narasimha, Namaskar > > I have some comment to your analysis below. > > Best wishes, > > === message truncated === ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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