Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Visti Kartikeya is the devata of Mars and shows the intrinsic nature of Mars. The Adhi devata always shows the intrinsic nature of the planet. For example Agni is the adhi devata of the Sun and shows that the Sun is a ball of fire while jala devi as the adhi devata of the Moon shows that the Moon is like a frozen ball of ice (at least thats what it looks like) and if you meditate on the Moon you feel very cool like the cooling effect of ice. Similarly the adhi devata of Mars is Kartikeya the God of War and this is the intrinsic nature of Mars. When we talk of Ista devata we are focusing on a spiritual path that is basically 'ahimsa' or non-violent and there is no place for Kartikeya in this scheme as the very name conjures *red alert* in the minds of people. For this reason I focus more on removing whatever anger is left and seeing that the person takes the spiritual path. Mars at its highest power is RUDRA or the one who causes weeping and normally the Rudra avatara also indicate Mars. Of these avatara Hanumanji is a Vedamurti (Hanu-mukha: atharva veda). So it is better to set the person along the path of Hanumanji or Lord Narasimha deva. Chandi is another very ferocious form of the devi and this is recommended if I find that the person is passing through tremendous strife and needs to bring things/life under some kind of control. Even then I restrict it to the navakshari if the Moon is in a martian sign. In such cases by reciting the chandi patha the mind loses its inherent anger and desire for revenge leaving the kama to be settled by the Mother and thenthe person is ready to receive the Narasimha or other mantras and finally - om - Ista Devata is a path not the goal as we are looing at the 12th house from karakamsa and there can be multiple influences on it and the level of the sadhaka/native can also be different. Ultimately one day he will recite the mantras for Vishnu and then find his path. Remember that when it comes to devata, treat the Karakamsa like Mesha the lagna of the natural zodiac and you will see that worship in the Hindu system is totally based on nature. Akasha Tatva: VISHNU: The 9th and 12th houses are ruled by Jupiter indicating akasha tatva and this can only be Vishnu as the ultimate deity of the dharma sthana and moksha sthana and the dharma devata or the Ishta devata respectively. Agni Tatva: Surya/SHIVA: The fifth house of spiritual learning is ruled by the Surya and it has to be Shiva in its highest manifestation. Shiva alone is the truest giver of this bhakti and gyana and He alone holds all the ropes for spirituality. Without Shiva there can be no road to Vishnu - for example even the Radhika path to Krishna must have either Gyana or Bhakti associated with it and this brings us to the fifth house, the mantra bhava. Without Shiva there can be no mantra and with Shiva even an animal sound becomes a mantra. Vayu Tatva: RUDRA: The tenth house makes us karma yogis and this with the 11th house is ruled by Saturn the lord of Vayu Tatva. The Rudras (Storm gods-loose translation) are the ultimate deities of this Tatva and give us the strength,patience and perseverence to become Karma Yogis guiding our minds with the thoughts of gain (11th house) and this is what needs to be renounced as it is a maraka to the mantra bhava. Jala Tatva: DEVI: All the fruits of this material world, our small joys and sorrows and our desires that cause rebirth are guided by this tatva on which the Moon (mind) dwells all the time. This is indicated by the Moon (4th house) and Venus (2nd and 7th house). Worship of the mother takes multiple forms depending on the nature of the child, his obsession with the toy/chocolate of this material world etc. Most men are cry-babies and are forever crying in front of the mother for having denied them their *perceived* share of chocolates and goodies. Some cry in front of Radhika for lack of love from Krishna, tohers cry in front of Chandi as their enemy (who was s friend earlier) ran away with their chocolates, yet others cry in front of Kalika for the wrong done by this cruel world to them and there are those who cry for sexual and other gratification (sic!-worshippers of the darkness). What are we crying about? This is one question that should really bother us. Prithvi tatva: GANESA: Growth is a natural process but can be obstructed and stunded by various forces of nature. To ensure that this does not happen and that our labour is in the right direction the 3rd and 6th houses need to be purged, and who else but the great Ganesha can do this. Those people are the smartest who follow the tatva and worship the pancha devata everyday or the specific devata in the days indicated by the tatva. I am copying this to the list - Varahamihira so that everyone benefits. And finally,the mantra you choose refers to Kartikeya as a GURU! So this is fine and advisable. But add the relevant poison removing bija else it can be quite time consuming in giving results. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Visti Larsen [visti] Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:57 PM'Sanjay Rath'Cc: sarbaniSubject: RE: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guruji, Namaskar I have a question with regards to the Ishta Devata mantra’s you have taught in the past. On many occasions you have taught the forms of the Ishta Devata based on Parasara and Jaimini, i.e. Sun is Shiva, and Moon is gouri, etc. However whenever it comes to Mars you have mentioned Hanuman and Chandi as the forms, but never Kartikeya as Parasara and Jaimini have. Why have you never talked about Kartikeya? I was going to advise a person to recite the mantra; “Om Sharanabhavaaya Namah” for Kartikeya, but decided to seek your oppinion on this first. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Visti/Sanjay, If I remember correctly, the mantra is given as ||om saravanabhavaaya namah|| Sri Ramadas Rao has said that one who chants this mantra 1 mala daily at sunrise is blessed with intelligence and health. best regards Hari > _____ > > Visti Larsen [visti@s...] > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Guruji, Namaskar > > I have a question with regards to the Ishta Devata mantra's you have taught > in the past. > > > > On many occasions you have taught the forms of the Ishta Devata based on > Parasara and Jaimini, i.e. Sun is Shiva, and Moon is gouri, etc. > > However whenever it comes to Mars you have mentioned Hanuman and Chandi as > the forms, but never Kartikeya as Parasara and Jaimini have. Why have you > never talked about Kartikeya? I was going to advise a person to recite the > mantra; " Om Sharanabhavaaya Namah " for Kartikeya, but decided to seek your > oppinion on this first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Hari Thats right. Now what about the seed syllables. This mantra can be sufficient With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath CenterR 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * onlyhari [onlyhari] Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:08 PM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Mantra and Ishta ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Visti/Sanjay, If I remember correctly, the mantra is given as ||om saravanabhavaaya namah|| Sri Ramadas Rao has said that one who chants this mantra 1 mala daily at sunrise is blessed with intelligence and health. best regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. I know that you are ever waiting for an opportunity to encourage me to study mantra sastra. I still remember your request to find a mantra for propitiating the dasamsa dispositor of AmK in my chart. I had a look at the dasakshari guha mantra in VRA (Kartikeya) and the bijas in that mantra are aim, hum, kshum & klim...you mentioned that the bija must remove the poison of anger so I would choose klim as it is Krishna (Jagannatha) who reminds us to keep smiling & laughing and who also has a cooling effect like the moon. BTW, the question on context of panchakosas is sidestepped? do you prefer that I taste the pudding by doing a case study? regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > Thats right. Now what about the seed syllables. This mantra can be > sufficient > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:08 PM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Mantra and Ishta > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > Dear Visti/Sanjay, > > If I remember correctly, the mantra is given as > > ||om saravanabhavaaya namah|| > > Sri Ramadas Rao has said that one who chants this mantra 1 mala daily at > sunrise is blessed with intelligence and health. > > best regards > Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Hari, Namaskar Actually if you read VRA, you will find that the poison destroying mantra is ‘Kshraum’ – actually used to worship Narasimha Avatara. Kleem is called Kaama Beeja, as it makes you content with whatever you desire. Kshum is Ksha + Hum, indicating the supression of poison or damana. You learn this when you study the beejas for ganesha. Its a great help to read the syllables-chapter of VRA too. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen Email: visti Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com *** varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of onlyhari 17 May 2005 13:35 varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: Mantra and Ishta ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, Pranaams. I know that you are ever waiting for an opportunity to encourage me to study mantra sastra. I still remember your request to find a mantra for propitiating the dasamsa dispositor of AmK in my chart. I had a look at the dasakshari guha mantra in VRA (Kartikeya) and the bijas in that mantra are aim, hum, kshum & klim...you mentioned that the bija must remove the poison of anger so I would choose klim as it is Krishna (Jagannatha) who reminds us to keep smiling & laughing and who also has a cooling effect like the moon. BTW, the question on context of panchakosas is sidestepped? do you prefer that I taste the pudding by doing a case study? regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Hari > Thats right. Now what about the seed syllables. This mantra can be > sufficient > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > onlyhari [onlyhari] > Tuesday, May 17, 2005 1:08 PM > varahamihira > |Sri Varaha| Re: Mantra and Ishta > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > Dear Visti/Sanjay, > > If I remember correctly, the mantra is given as > > ||om saravanabhavaaya namah|| > > Sri Ramadas Rao has said that one who chants this mantra 1 mala daily at > sunrise is blessed with intelligence and health. > > best regards > Hari |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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