Utpals Puzzle attempt

May 17, 2005

||brihaspatimvarenyam||

Dear Utpal,

For the past few days, I have been discussing with

Pandita Sanjaya Rath about the mechanism behind the 6

level dasa system and Sanjay asked me to take up a

case study to study the line of thinking that I

proposed to him. I thought I would take up your puzzle

as a test-hotbed for verifying the logic. Never mind

the old saying that fools rush in where angels fear to

tread… & #61514;.

The logic that I had proposed to analyse the 6 level

dasa mechanism was based on the connection of the dasa

cycle or sub-cycle to the sariras following the

philosophy that for any event to take place, the seed

first manifests in the karana sarira (causal body)

according to the karmashayas (karmic residues),

sprouts in the sukshma sarira (subtle body) and

finally manifests in the sthula sarira (gross or

physical body). The proposition is as follows:

Maha, antara, pratyantara – to be analyzed in rasi

chart – sthula sarira

Sukshma antara – to be analyzed in navamsa (bhagya)

Prana antara, Deha antara – to be analyzed in

shastyamsa (past karmas)

You had given your brothers birth details as

24.07.1977, 3.55 AM (recorded), Mumbai (72e50, 19n06)

and asked the question ‘What happened to your brother

at around 3.30 pm on 24.01.2003 at Idar, Gujarat?’

Additional information provided by you: Your birth

details, Date was one day before your brothers

marriage, performance of your sons upanayanam and

sisters marriage on that date, taking of bridegroom in

a procession to kuladevata temple (Shiva) on that

date.

At the time of the event, the Vimsottari dasa (Moon)

was Ju/Ve/Ke/Sa/Ra/Ra. The hora lord at the time of

the event was Me (kala = Ju).

According to the methodology proposed above, let us

look at Ra in shastyamsa. It is in the 8th house of Sg

with respect to D-60 lagna along with UL, A5 & A10 and

HL. To decide if the event is good or bad, look at the

shastyamsa it occupies which turns out to be ‘Garala’

or kroora (poison or venom of a snake). This indicates

that the event was sudden or unexpected (8th house),

some activity (Ra = 10th co-lord & A10) related to

money (HL) and spouse (UL) with children or

subordinates (A5).

Now look at Ra with respect to pranapada lagna in

shastyamsa; here Ra is in the 3rd from PP and is the

5th co-lord from PP showing that the native may have

been talking (3rd house of communication) to children

or subordinates (5th house).

Moving on to look at Sa in navamsa, we find that Sa is

the 3rd lord in 4th house along with navamsa lagna

co-lord Ke and AL. Malefics in AL damage the image and

the happiness of the native may have been shaken due

to the communication activity at the time of the

event. Since the sukshma sarira also relates to the

impact of the mind (desires) on the native, we peep

into the nakshatramsa (D-27) to find out what impulses

are occurring at that time. Here Sa is in 8th house of

Li as the dispositor is in 3rd house along with Ra and

Mo forming a shakti yoga which may have induced a very

sudden movement related to speech or hands (probably

the native shouted!)…once again this is connected to

UL (spouse) and money (HL).

Analyzing Ju/Ve/Ke with respect to the tripod

principle, we find that Ju is in 12th to Sun and is

the 6th & 9th lord wrt Sun, placed in lagna. Ve is the

subhapati placed in 8th from Mo along with Ma and A4.

Ke is the 6th co-lord placed in 10th house of Pi.

Without delving into further principles, I would like

to summarize the event as follows:

The happiness of the native was impacted due to a

sudden quarrel with relatives of the spouse because of

issues with money. An accident cannot be ruled out

either and could have been someone throwing a

dangerous object (chemical); however the native was

saved due to Guru in lagna and the presence of mind of

father or such elderly persons.

Addendum: I have given this exercise for the sake of

understanding. If I am wrong, I accept my mistakes and

am ever ready to learn. If I am correct, credit goes

to Lord Narayana (om namo narayanaaya). I present this

example for the learned scholars in the forum and pray

that I may be given wise counsel.

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May 17, 2005

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Hari, Namaskar

Nice philosophy of the dasas. But, if the Maha and Antara are more subtle in

form, whilst the Prana and Deha are more gross, then why aren't you looking

at the Prana and Deha from the Rasi chart, where the actual physical actions

are taking place? Whilst looking at the maha and antara in the D60 or higher

divisions where the more subtle events are taking place... I base this

argument on the understanding of the 5 kosas of consciousness and the five

levels attributed to the vargas.

Best wishes,

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Visti Larsen

Email: visti

Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com

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varahamihira [varahamihira ] On

Behalf Of Hari M

17 May 2005 15:59

gajapati ; varahamihira

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