Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Narasimha Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and dhi, yes you got the right focus for astrologers. I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then others can send it out. Please see http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr] Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AMSanjay RathMy shloka Dear Sanjay, I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in Sanskrit and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif You will enjoy it. Your sishya, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Sanjay, This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite the shloka as it is? In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the beginning of every religious function; this is also place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done in say, USA? regards Hari varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Narasimha > Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and dhi, yes > you got the right focus for astrologers. > I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then others can > send it out. Please see > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > _____ > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM > Sanjay Rath > My shloka > > > Dear Sanjay, > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in Sanskrit > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > You will enjoy it. > > Your sishya, > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Hari, If you change the place name the chandas (metre) will be broken. If you wish, You can just recite as it is. The place need not be changed. Like if we sing a song for Venkatdri, Tirupati balaji. We dont change it to the place where we are living at. Warm Regards Sanjay P varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote: > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > Dear Sanjay, > > This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of > Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does > this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your > area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite > the shloka as it is? > > In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the > beginning of every religious function; this is also > place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done > in say, USA? > > regards > Hari > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Narasimha > > Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and > dhi, yes > > you got the right focus for astrologers. > > I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then > others can > > send it out. Please see > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > _____ > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM > > Sanjay Rath > > My shloka > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the > > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in > Sanskrit > > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: > > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > > You will enjoy it. > > > > Your sishya, > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Hari, For Sankalpa, You have to change the place. You have to take sankalpa at the given place, continent and time ( Nakshatra, yoga, karna, tithi, vaara). Just as side note, Sankalpa can be done in any language it need be in sanskrit. Just make a mental determination and note the place and time. Warm Regards Sanjay P. varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Hari, > If you change the place name the chandas (metre) will be broken. > If you wish, You can just recite as it is. > The place need not be changed. Like if we sing a song for Venkatdri, > Tirupati balaji. We dont change it to the place where we are living at. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of > > Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does > > this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your > > area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite > > the shloka as it is? > > > > In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the > > beginning of every religious function; this is also > > place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done > > in say, USA? > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > Dear Narasimha > > > Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and > > dhi, yes > > > you got the right focus for astrologers. > > > I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then > > others can > > > send it out. Please see > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > * * * > > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > > > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM > > > Sanjay Rath > > > My shloka > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the > > > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in > > Sanskrit > > > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: > > > > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > > > > You will enjoy it. > > > > > > Your sishya, > > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Sanjay, Visti, Hari & Prabhakaran, Namaste. Please refer the previous mail in connection with Ista and Mantra. Visti had a question about usage of Mantra addressing Kartikeya as Ista. Sanjay had stated that he preferred Ista to be Sowmya and that if Kartikeya Mantra is to be given, then an additional beeja relating to removal of poison may be added. Now we see a mail coming up in the form of a 'Dakshinamoorthy Shloka' by Narasimha(Mars). i was wondering the way the Almighty carefully takes up each wave of vibration and strokes it affectionately! Mars is extremely comfortable in South/dakshin. Makara is the exaltation sthana of Mars where dakshinayana ends and uttarayana begins. Makara is the kshetra where Guru expresses himself through Mars. Mars reminds me of Dakshinamoorthy. You may feel as to why Yama should be linked to Dakshinamoorthy! Yama the controller is dharmaswaroopi. Gyana means complete transformation(8th house related activity - Vimsamsa). Karma-dahana(burning of karmas) paves the way for Gyana. Mars sits outside the dakshinayana boundary while Guru(Sadasiva) sits outside the Uttarayana boundary. One can visualise this easily. Guru is debilitated in Makara. This is akin to the embrace of Sadasiva and Skanda and an upliftment of Skandha. In kataka you will see Skandha existing in the third eye of the Lord as a 'tilaka'. Third eye is the origin/womb (garbha) of Agniputra. Makara is the expression of Agni. Skanda gave explanation for Pranava and was called as Sivagurunathan. This does not mean that the Almighty Sadasiva who is the cause doesnot know the meaning of Pranava. This was done to honour the Agniputra Skanda by conferring upon him the Gurutwa. Skandha who was handed the Velayudha by MA Parasakthi did not kill the asura Surapadma but transformed him. The physiology of the asura ofcourse underwent a change. One half became Kukutta(cock) and the other half became Mayura(peacock). The cock(AK/ahankara { concept of 'I'} of the asura) took up a place in the dwaja(flag) while the peacock(mamakara (concept of 'mine'} became his vahana/vehicle. If Subrahmanya is considered as the sarpa/snake then he is the highest form of Sarpa known as Kundalini. Kundalini jagran is for the seeker who has the vairaghya. Here in comes the brilliance of Sanjay where he feels that Mantras are not mere sounds. Mantras are meant for transformation. This Subramanya invocation is sure to give results. When the Guru who is to give the mantra is not ready yet then the mantra is not to be given. i feel this is the message which Sanjay wanted to convey. There is so much to say in this but the mail is becoming lengthier. To sum up, if one is able to identify his Ista through a Guru in a graha then the navagraha becomes a anugraha/blessing. The jyotisha should necessarily consult his Ista before giving the Ista devatha mantra. Ista devatha Mantras are not mere sounds and are meant for transformation(8th house)/complete knowledge. Last but not the least Mars has the power and potency to bring back the jeeva to this jambudweepa(mrityu loka - this means whether it is Saylorsborg or it is Mmubai everything comes under Jambudweepa) with a sole intention of driving the jeeva to completley realise the helpless state of Ahankara. The moment the jeeva thinks that he is supreme and that another world exist(other than Sivasakthi) you are brought to this dweepa/island and till you realise the parents(original) you are retained here. The moment you realise, your asuric qualities are converted into a vahana and the ahankara converts itself into flag of wisdom and the upward surge(rasing) takes place. Kartikeya is a task master indeed. Sorry for the length. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. --- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiar wrote: || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Hari, If you change the place name the chandas (metre) will be broken. If you wish, You can just recite as it is. The place need not be changed. Like if we sing a song for Venkatdri, Tirupati balaji. We dont change it to the place where we are living at. Warm Regards Sanjay P varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote: > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > Dear Sanjay, > > This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of > Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does > this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your > area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite > the shloka as it is? > > In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the > beginning of every religious function; this is also > place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done > in say, USA? > > regards > Hari > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > Dear Narasimha > > Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and > dhi, yes > > you got the right focus for astrologers. > > I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then > others can > > send it out. Please see > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > * * * > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > New Delhi 110060, India > > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > * * * > > > > > > _____ > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...] > > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM > > Sanjay Rath > > My shloka > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the > > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in > Sanskrit > > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: > > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > > You will enjoy it. > > > > Your sishya, > > Narasimha |Om Tat Sat| http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Dear Hari, > This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of> Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does> this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your> area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite> the shloka as it is? One does not have to live in Kashi to pray to Kashi Vishwanatha! Arsha Vidya Gurukulam (AVG) at Saylorsburg was established by Swami Dayananda Saraswati, a great soul, and so many spiritual and astrological discourses happened in front of Lord Medha Dakshinamurthy situated at the Gurukulam. He has certain power. You can pray to Him wherever you live. The picture I gave with the shloka is of Lord Dakshinamurthy at the temple at AVG. You can look at that picture and worship. Some shlokas written by great saints get additional power due to the spiritual purity of the saint. Because I am an ordinary person, such power does not exist in the shloka. But, one can still use it as it expresses a nice wish. The shloka asks Lord Dakshinamurthy to stay in the intellects of Jyotishis and bless them with intelligence. If you change the name of the place, the metre can be broken. Also, I specified "gurukule". So this is tough to change. If you want to use it, use it as it is and pray to the God at AVG. > In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the> beginning of every religious function; this is also> place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done> in say, USA? Just change the names. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha-------------------------------Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.netFree Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org SJC website: http://www.SriJagannath.org------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Dear Sanjay, The portion of the sankalpa preceeding this exhaustively deals with time, cafefully proceeding through its divisions until the day is defined. Let us assume that the portion of the sankalpa dealing with the location follows the same pattern. “jambu-dvipe bharata-varshe bharata-khande meroh daxine paarshve”. jambu-dvipa must refer to the grossest definition of space. It cannot refer to a continent on earth. I would’ve expected something like “bhuh loke, […] khande, […] deshe”, but this is not what we find in the sankalpa. So, at this time, as I do not understand it, I am unwilling to change the sankalpa. Remember that India became a “country” very recently, and was a collection of a large number of “kingdoms”, whose borders (both internally and externally) have changed throughout time. Yet, it is referred to in a collective sense in the sankalpa. Perhaps the sankalpa does need to be changed in order to specify the location, but we cannot do this until we understand what we are changing. Everyone understands what ‘vaivasvata manvantara’ etc refer to. There is no such consensus about ‘jambu-dvipa’, ‘bharata-varsha’, or even the location of the meru mountain. ajit Sanjay Prabhakaran [sanjaychettiar] Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:28 PM Ajit Krishnan Re: My shloka Dear Ajit, In Sankalpa when it's said 'Jambu Dweepe' .. Khande etc I take it refer to continent and hence said continent. I thought one could very well say 'North America' Kande etc. It's my opinion and I have seen some pundits do this here at some US temple when doing some pooja. Some say 'Krauncha' Dweepe to refer to America Please tell me your opinion. Thank you Sanjay On 5/19/05, Ajit Krishnan <ajit wrote: Dear Sanjay, Could you please elaborate on the continent in the sankalpa? ajit varahamihira [varahamihira ] On Behalf Of sanjayprabhakaran Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:45 AM varahamihira |Sri Varaha| Re: My shloka || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Hari, For Sankalpa, You have to change the place. You have to take sankalpa at the given place, continent and time ( Nakshatra, yoga, karna, tithi, vaara). Just as side note, Sankalpa can be done in any language it need be in sanskrit. Just make a mental determination and note the place and time. Warm Regards Sanjay P. varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Hari, > If you change the place name the chandas (metre) will be broken. > If you wish, You can just recite as it is. > The place need not be changed. Like if we sing a song for Venkatdri, > Tirupati balaji. We dont change it to the place where we are living at. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote: > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of > > Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does > > this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your > > area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite > > the shloka as it is? > > > > In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the > > beginning of every religious function; this is also > > place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done > > in say, USA? > > > > regards > > Hari > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > Dear Narasimha > > > Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and > > dhi, yes > > > you got the right focus for astrologers. > > > I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then > > others can > > > send it out. Please see > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > * * * > > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > http://srath.com < http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [ pvr@c...] > > > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM > > > Sanjay Rath > > > My shloka > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the > > > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in > > Sanskrit > > > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: > > > > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > > > > You will enjoy it. > > > > > > Your sishya, > > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| Dear Ajit, Namaste. I think this is what my uncle had in mind when he asked me the question about doing sankalpa in USA. But Narasimha has been in the USA for a long time and he does sankalpa at the end of every Satyanarayana vrata...he has opined that the place needs to be changed. Anyhow it would be interesting to read his comments with reference to your email. regards Hari varahamihira , " Ajit Krishnan " <astro@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > The portion of the sankalpa preceeding this exhaustively deals with time, > cafefully proceeding through its divisions until the day is defined. Let us > assume that the portion of the sankalpa dealing with the location follows > the same pattern. > > > > " jambu-dvipe bharata-varshe bharata-khande meroh daxine paarshve " . > > > > jambu-dvipa must refer to the grossest definition of space. It cannot refer > to a continent on earth. I would've expected something like " bhuh loke, [.] > khande, [.] deshe " , but this is not what we find in the sankalpa. So, at > this time, as I do not understand it, I am unwilling to change the sankalpa. > Remember that India became a " country " very recently, and was a collection > of a large number of " kingdoms " , whose borders (both internally and > externally) have changed throughout time. Yet, it is referred to in a > collective sense in the sankalpa. > > > > Perhaps the sankalpa does need to be changed in order to specify the > location, but we cannot do this until we understand what we are changing. > Everyone understands what 'vaivasvata manvantara' etc refer to. There is no > such consensus about 'jambu-dvipa', 'bharata-varsha', or even the location > of the meru mountain. > > > > ajit > > > > _____ > > Sanjay Prabhakaran [sanjaychettiar@g...] > Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:28 PM > Ajit Krishnan > Re: My shloka > > > > Dear Ajit, > In Sankalpa when it's said 'Jambu Dweepe' .. Khande etc I take it refer to > continent and hence said continent. I thought one could very well say 'North > America' Kande etc. > It's my opinion and I have seen some pundits do this here at some US temple > when doing some pooja. > Some say 'Krauncha' Dweepe to refer to America > > Please tell me your opinion. > Thank you > Sanjay > > > > > On 5/19/05, Ajit Krishnan <ajit@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Sanjay, > > Could you please elaborate on the continent in the sankalpa? > > ajit > > > > varahamihira [varahamihira ] On > Behalf Of sanjayprabhakaran > Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:45 AM > varahamihira <varahamihira > > |Sri Varaha| Re: My shloka > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Hari, > For Sankalpa, You have to change the place. You have to take sankalpa > at the given place, continent and time ( Nakshatra, yoga, karna, > tithi, vaara). > Just as side note, Sankalpa can be done in any language it need be in > sanskrit. Just make a mental determination and note the place and time. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P. > > > > > varahamihira , " sanjayprabhakaran " > <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear Hari, > > If you change the place name the chandas (metre) will be broken. > > If you wish, You can just recite as it is. > > The place need not be changed. Like if we sing a song for Venkatdri, > > Tirupati balaji. We dont change it to the place where we are living at. > > > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > > > varahamihira , " onlyhari " <onlyhari> wrote: > > > ||brihaspatimvarenyam|| > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka is composed in honor of > > > Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it is place-specific. Does > > > this matter or does one need to modify it to a place/temple in your > > > area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti. Can anyone recite > > > the shloka as it is? > > > > > > In a similar vein, somebody asked me about the sankalpa done at the > > > beginning of every religious function; this is also > > > place-specific...how does one modify it if the function is to be done > > > in say, USA? > > > > > > regards > > > Hari > > > > > > varahamihira , " Sanjay Rath " <guruji@s...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > Dear Narasimha > > > > Very very nice. I liked the last line very very much. ..medha and > > > dhi, yes > > > > you got the right focus for astrologers. > > > > I am copying this to the lists, at least Varahamihira and then > > > others can > > > > send it out. Please see > > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > > With best wishes and warm regards, > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > * * * > > > > Sri Jagannath CenterR > > > > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > > > > New Delhi 110060, India > > > > http://srath.com < http://srath.com/> , +91-11-25717162 > > > > * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [ pvr@c...] > > > > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM > > > > Sanjay Rath > > > > My shloka > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It asks him to stay in the > > > > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom. The shloka in > > > Sanskrit > > > > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at: > > > > > > > > http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif > > > > > > > > You will enjoy it. > > > > > > > > Your sishya, > > > > Narasimha > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Jaya JagannathaDear Ram NarayanThere are some concepts we need to be clear about first. I am adding comments below your mail.With best wishes and warm regards,Sanjay Rath* * *Sri Jagannath Center®15B Gangaram Hospital RoadNew Delhi 110060, Indiahttp://srath.com, +91-11-25717162* * *rama narayanan [sree88ganesha]Friday, May 20, 2005 8:38 AMvarahamihira Subject: Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: My shlokaSARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Sanjay, Visti, Hari & Prabhakaran,Namaste. Please refer the previous mail in connection with Ista and Mantra. Visti had a question about usage of Mantra addressing Kartikeya as Ista. Sanjay had stated that he preferred Ista to be Sowmya and that if Kartikeya Mantra is to be given, then an additional beeja relating to removal of poison may be added.Now we see a mail coming up in the form of a 'Dakshinamoorthy Shloka' by Narasimha(Mars). i was wondering the way the Almighty carefully takes up each wave of vibration and strokes it affectionately!Mars is extremely comfortable in South/dakshin. Makara is the exaltation sthana of Mars where dakshinayana ends and uttarayana begins. Makara is the kshetra where Guru expresses himself through Mars. Mars reminds me of Dakshinamoorthy. You may feel as to why Yama should be linked to Dakshinamoorthy! Yama the controller is dharmaswaroopi. Gyana means complete transformation(8th house related activity - Vimsamsa).Rath: The Kalachakra directions are based on *who blocks what* or on *who controls what*. Thats what Kala is all about. The NE direction has the digbala of Jupiterwhereas Rahu sits in the NE doorway in the Kalachakra. So naturally Rahu's job is to block the access or path to Guru. Similarly Mars has the digbala or fighting and killing strength (Mrityu is the son of Mars) in the southern direction and the God of Peace Jupiter/Guru has the power to block or control this destruction and is made to sit in the southern direction. This powerful form of the Guru that blocks death and destruction is Dakshinamurthy and this is not Mars but Jupiter. Yama is not linked to Dakshinamurthy in any way to the best of my knowledge. Yama is the God of death and is linked to Saturn and as you have pointed out this direction is also linked to the sign Capricorn which ruled burial grounds and burning ghats for dead bodies. Hence Yama is linked to southern direction due to the *sign* Capricorn which rules the places for the dead. Similarly Indra the king of the Gods sits in the eastern direction as Mesha (Aries) is the Royal sign of the natural zodiac and the king must sit here in the eastern direction. In conclusion, Dakshinamurthy is the Guru bala of the Kalachakra to block the digbala of Mars and Yama is linked to saturn through the sign Capricorn. Indra is linked to the eastern direction due to Arieswhich is the royal sign.Karma-dahana(burning of karmas) paves the way for Gyana. Mars sits outside the dakshinayana boundary while Guru(Sadasiva) sits outside the Uttarayana boundary. One can visualise this easily. Guru is debilitated in Makara. This is akin to the embrace of Sadasiva and Skanda and an upliftment of Skandha. In kataka you will see Skandha existing in the third eye of the Lord as a 'tilaka'. Third eye is the origin/womb (garbha) of Agniputra. Makara is the expression of Agni.Skanda gave explanation for Pranava and was called as Sivagurunathan. This does not mean that the Almighty Sadasiva who is the cause doesnot know the meaning of Pranava. This was done to honour the Agniputra Skanda by conferring upon him the Gurutwa. Skandha who was handed the Velayudha by MA Parasakthi did not kill the asura Surapadma but transformed him. The physiology of the asura ofcourse underwent a change. One half becameKukutta(cock) and the other half becameMayura(peacock). The cock(AK/ahankara { concept of 'I'} of the asura) took up a place in the dwaja(flag) while the peacock(mamakara (concept of 'mine'} became his vahana/vehicle. Rath:Yes thats right. I may add that Kartikeya is Sivagurunathan due to the Mahavakya's he spoke of (refer Shiva Purana). Thats why Kukuti vrata and Mayuri vrata...ok it fits wonderfully into the Bagala tantra and Somanatha (head of Shiva).If Subrahmanya is considered as the sarpa/snake then he is the highest form of Sarpa known as Kundalini. Rath: Thats for all deities, lets not get carried away. Kundalini jagran is for the seeker who has the vairaghya. Here in comes the brilliance of Sanjay where he feels that Mantras are not mere sounds.Mantras are meant for transformation. This Subramanya invocation is sure to give results.When the Guru who is to give the mantra is not ready yet then the mantra is not to be given. i feel this is the message which Sanjay wanted to convey.There is so much to say in this but the mail is becoming lengthier. Rath: Go on Ram, you are speaking sense. People insisting on mantras like bargaining for bread is a sad state. Mantra is a spontaneous exuberance of pranic shakti of a fellow traveller called *guru* that follows the churning of karmic ocean by the 54 devas and 54 asuras knotting the kundalini snake around the heart lotus mountain within our bodies. So many actors are involved in here that it cannot be controlled. Unless Shiva has drunk the poison, how can the nectar come. Thats why I was suggesting that the poison destroying bijaksara (seed syllable) be added to the mantra of Skanda so that the native can at first have the poison destroyed and then alone come to the light of amrita that is being distributed by Mohini. Incidentally the name *mohini* is from Moha and has the kaama bijakshara as the giver of amrita - kliiM. To sum up, if one is able to identify his Ista through a Guru in a graha then the navagraha becomes a anugraha/blessing. The jyotisha should necessarily consult his Ista before giving the Ista devatha mantra. Ista devatha Mantras are not mere sounds and are meant for transformation(8th house)/complete knowledge. Rath: Yes I insist on this. He who has the light can give light, and our light can come from our Ista devata only. The eighth house you mention is a secret I have kept for sometime. Most of the dvadasakshari mantra are of the type *om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* - 4 words, 12 akshara and mantra devata is in 8th house. Thats the key to transformation.Last but not the least Mars has the power and potency to bring back the jeeva to this jambudweepa(mrityu loka - this means whether it is Saylorsborg or it is Mmubai everything comes under Jambudweepa) with a sole intention of driving the jeeva to completley realise the helpless state of Ahankara. The moment the jeeva thinks that he is supreme and that another world exist(other than Sivasakthi) you are brought to this dweepa/island and till you realise theparents(original) you are retained here. The moment you realise, your asuric qualities are converted into a vahana and the ahankara converts itself into flag of wisdom and the upward surge(rasing) takes place.Kartikeya is a task master indeed.Sorry for the length.Best wishes.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.--- sanjayprabhakaran <sanjaychettiarwrote:|| Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Hari, If you change the place name the chandas (metre) will be broken. If you wish, You can just recite as it is. The place need not be changed. Like if we sing a song for Venkatdri, Tirupati balaji. We dont change it to the place where we are living at.Warm RegardsSanjay Pvarahamihira , "onlyhari"<onlyhari> wrote:> ||brihaspatimvarenyam||>> Dear Sanjay,>> This may be a *stupid* question...the shloka iscomposed in honor of> Dakshinamurti at Saylorsburg...that is, it isplace-specific. Does> this matter or does one need to modify it to aplace/temple in your> area of residence that is famous for Dakshinamurti.Can anyone recite> the shloka as it is?>> In a similar vein, somebody asked me about thesankalpa done at the> beginning of every religious function; this is also> place-specific...how does one modify it if thefunction is to be done> in say, USA?>> regards> Hari>> varahamihira , "Sanjay Rath"<guruji@s...> wrote:> > > > > > Jaya Jagannatha> > Dear Narasimha> > Very very nice. I liked the last line very verymuch. ..medha and> dhi, yes> > you got the right focus for astrologers.> > I am copying this to the lists, at leastVarahamihira and then> others can> > send it out. Please see> >http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif> > With best wishes and warm regards,> > Sanjay Rath> > * * *> > Sri Jagannath CenterR> > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road> > New Delhi 110060, India> > http://srath.com <http://srath.com/> ,+91-11-25717162> > * * *> > > >> > _____> >> > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...]> > Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:35 AM> > Sanjay Rath> > My shloka> >> >> > Dear Sanjay,> > > > I wrote a shloka on Shiva at Saylorsburg. It askshim to stay in the> > intellect of Jyotishis and bless them with wisdom.The shloka in> Sanskrit> > and Balaram fonts and my own translation are at:> > > >http://www.vedicastrologer.org/mantras/shiva_may_2005.gif> > > > You will enjoy it.> > > > Your sishya,> > Narasimha|Om Tat Sat|http://www.varahamihira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Sanjay, Namaste. Thank you for that illuminating response. May i write a few lines for further clarification. The entire topic came up because of mantra for Kartikeya. You had responded to Visti's mail. There were some hidden aspects in that mail as the same did not explain as to who is Kartikeya and what are his specialities. Kartikeya is called as Swaminathan in Swamimalai(y) - a place in Kumbakonam. The parents are seated in the base of the hill(hillock) while Kartikeya/Swaminathan sits atop holy 60 steps. Each step correspond to one of the years in the 60 year cycle(prabhava, vibhava etc.,). This 60 year cycle as you know is called as Jupiterian years. Kartikeya the agniputra Skanda is called as Sivagurunathan(you know that already). How does this Mars attain the gurutwa?! There should be something hidden here is it not? Is Mars a teacher? If so where is his school? When does the warrior Mars put down his arms and speak out? Rudra is all at ease in his home ground called as rudra bhumi. Agni is gyana while bhasma(astitwa) is anubhava is it not?! Can bhasma produce agni?! Skanda the agni was prduced out of the 3rd eye of the Mahaanubavi Mahadeva. It sounds odd as the process appears to have been reversed. Let us see this reversal a bit. Let us inscribe the word 'MAYA' on an arrow and shoot at a target. Now that bana has pierced/struck the target. Let us pull out the bana/arrow from the target, by its head(not from the back). The letter that comes out first is 'YA' which is followed by 'MA'.{Like the valmiki episode-Holy Mantra 'Rama' was chanted as Mara by Valmiki}. To understand Maya we should understand yama the controller. We need to be disciplined. To come out of the routine life lead by habits and behavioural pattern we need to change. A reversal is very much essential. Mantra is that 'Rama' ban which can cause this 8th house feature of reversal. i was only too curious about this reversal and the hidden glories of this Dakshin(south) Moorthy. Guru is the karaka of the 'dhi'sakthi which is affiliated to the lagna(time of birth). i was thinking about the sama/equal status that is being conferred to Mars when Kartikeya was conferred the title Sivagurunathan.It can only be possible at the time of return to the original state referred popularly as 'samadhi'. Mars the rudra gives out his exalted speech in smashan where death rules. Smashan has the potentiality of converting the 3rd house activity of Mars to the 2nd house activity of Guru. What is the message then? The message hidden is for paripoorna gyana the 8th house matters are to be understood throughly and clearly. It is only in complete transformation(8th house)where one can understand in its entirety the gyana of right hand methods(Guru - 4th house) and the gyana of the left hand methods(sukra - 12th house). i feel that these three houses are to be studied closely in vimsamsa chart. Sanjay, do you have anything to say about the commencement of jupitarian years? When Guru enters Kumba or when Sun enters Mesha which is your choice? i wanted to write about communion with Ista? The mail is already legnthy. i shall stop here. Thank you once again for your response. Best wishes. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. --- Sanjay Rath <guruji wrote: > Jaya Jagannatha > Dear Ram Narayan > There are some concepts we need to be clear about > first. I am adding > comments below your mail. > With best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > * * * > Sri Jagannath CenterR > 15B Gangaram Hospital Road > New Delhi 110060, India > <http://srath.com> http://srath.com, > +91-11-25717162 > * * * > > > rama narayanan [ > <sree88ganesha > sree88ganesha] > Friday, May 20, 2005 8:38 AM > varahamihira > Re: |Sri Varaha| Re: My shloka > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Sanjay, Visti, Hari & Prabhakaran, > > Namaste. Please refer the previous mail in > connection with Ista and Mantra. > Visti had a question about usage of Mantra > addressing Kartikeya as Ista. > Sanjay had stated that he preferred Ista to be > Sowmya and that if Kartikeya > Mantra is to be given, then an additional beeja > relating to removal of > poison may be added. > > Now we see a mail coming up in the form of a > 'Dakshinamoorthy Shloka' by > Narasimha(Mars). i was wondering the way the > Almighty carefully takes up > each wave of vibration and strokes it > affectionately! > > Mars is extremely comfortable in South/dakshin. > Makara is the exaltation > sthana of Mars where dakshinayana ends and > uttarayana begins. Makara is the > kshetra where Guru expresses himself through Mars. > Mars reminds me of > Dakshinamoorthy. You may feel as to why Yama should > be linked to > Dakshinamoorthy! Yama the controller is > dharmaswaroopi. Gyana means complete > transformation(8th house related activity - > Vimsamsa). > > Rath: The Kalachakra directions are based on *who > blocks what* or on *who > controls what*. Thats what Kala is all about. The NE > direction has the > digbala of Jupiterwhereas Rahu sits in the NE > doorway in the Kalachakra. So > naturally Rahu's job is to block the access or path > to Guru. Similarly Mars > has the digbala or fighting and killing strength > (Mrityu is the son of Mars) > in the southern direction and the God of Peace > Jupiter/Guru has the power to > block or control this destruction and is made to sit > in the southern > direction. This powerful form of the Guru that > blocks death and destruction > is Dakshinamurthy and this is not Mars but Jupiter. > > Yama is not linked to Dakshinamurthy in any way to > the best of my knowledge. > Yama is the God of death and is linked to Saturn and > as you have pointed out > this direction is also linked to the sign Capricorn > which ruled burial > grounds and burning ghats for dead bodies. Hence > Yama is linked to southern > direction due to the *sign* Capricorn which rules > the places for the dead. > Similarly Indra the king of the Gods sits in the > eastern direction as Mesha > (Aries) is the Royal sign of the natural zodiac and > the king must sit here > in the eastern direction. > > In conclusion, Dakshinamurthy is the Guru bala of > the Kalachakra to block > the digbala of Mars and Yama is linked to saturn > through the sign Capricorn. > Indra is linked to the eastern direction due to > Arieswhich is the royal > sign. > > Karma-dahana(burning of karmas) paves the way for > Gyana. Mars sits outside > the dakshinayana boundary while Guru(Sadasiva) sits > outside the Uttarayana > boundary. One can visualise this easily. Guru is > debilitated in Makara. This > is akin to the embrace of Sadasiva and Skanda and an > upliftment of Skandha. > In kataka you will see Skandha existing in the third > eye of the Lord as a > 'tilaka'. Third eye is the origin/womb (garbha) of > Agniputra. Makara is the > expression of Agni. > > Skanda gave explanation for Pranava and was called > as Sivagurunathan. This > does not mean that the Almighty Sadasiva who is the > cause doesnot know the > meaning of Pranava. This was done to honour the > Agniputra Skanda by > conferring upon him the Gurutwa. Skandha who was > handed the Velayudha by MA > Parasakthi did not kill the asura Surapadma but > transformed him. The > physiology of the asura ofcourse underwent a change. > One half became > Kukutta(cock) and the other half became > Mayura(peacock). The cock(AK/ahankara { concept of > 'I'} of the asura) took > up a place in the dwaja(flag) while the > peacock(mamakara (concept of 'mine'} > became his vahana/vehicle. > > Rath:Yes thats right. I may add that Kartikeya is > Sivagurunathan due to the > Mahavakya's he spoke of (refer Shiva Purana). Thats > why Kukuti vrata and > Mayuri vrata...ok it fits wonderfully into the > Bagala tantra and Somanatha > (head of Shiva). > > If Subrahmanya is considered as the sarpa/snake then > he is the highest form > of Sarpa known as Kundalini. > > Rath: Thats for all deities, lets not get carried > away. > > Kundalini jagran is for the seeker who has the > vairaghya. Here in comes the > brilliance of Sanjay where he feels that Mantras are > not mere sounds. > Mantras are meant for transformation. This > Subramanya invocation is sure to > give results. > > When the Guru who is to give the mantra is not ready > yet then the mantra is > not to be given. i feel this is the message which > Sanjay wanted to convey. > > There is so much to say in this but the mail is > becoming lengthier. > > Rath: Go on Ram, you are speaking sense. People > insisting on mantras like > bargaining for bread is a sad state. > > Mantra is a spontaneous exuberance of pranic shakti > of a fellow traveller > called *guru* that follows the churning of karmic > ocean by the 54 devas and > 54 asuras knotting the kundalini snake around the > heart lotus mountain > within our bodies. So many actors are involved in > here that it cannot be > controlled. Unless Shiva has drunk the poison, how > can the nectar come. > Thats why I was suggesting that the poison > destroying bijaksara (seed > syllable) be added to the mantra of Skanda so that > the native can at first > have the poison destroyed and then alone come to the > light of amrita that is > being distributed by Mohini. Incidentally the name > *mohini* is from Moha and > has the kaama bijakshara as the giver of amrita - > kliiM. > > To sum up, if one is able to identify his Ista > through a Guru in a graha > then the navagraha becomes a anugraha/blessing. The > jyotisha should > necessarily consult his Ista before giving the Ista > devatha mantra. Ista > devatha Mantras are not mere sounds and are meant > for transformation(8th > house)/complete knowledge. > > Rath: Yes I insist on this. He who has the light can > give light, and our > === message truncated === ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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