Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Dear Renu ji and Friends, What is transit? Planets are in continuous movement We freeze their placement in zodiac at the time of birth. BPHS CH 3 SHLOKA 6 says: Based on the ascendant and the planets joining and departing from each other, the natives good and bad effects are deduced. 1. The yogas in birth chart indicate Sanchit Karma - i.e. the accumulated fate at the time of birth 2 This fate is progressively unfolds with the progress of Dasa periods 3. the fate converts into destiny -Krayaman -with help of transits The planetary transits run the whole show. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA renunw <renunw Friday, 18 April, 2008 7:26:31 AM Conjunction of Dispositors in Transit Dear members, Let me quote from the book Navamsa in Astrology by CS Patel... [sorry, I am not versed in Sanskrit]... " A native born in Cancer Ascendant, with Venus occupying Dhanus Navmasa in Mesha sign, will have much wealth and be happy, during the period of conjunction in thrasit of Jupiter and Mars [both neutral planets]. " Translation of D.K. 3 p.97 verse 3272 He goes on to say that these two planets whenever in transit conjunct, they produce certain favourable results to the native of Cancer Ascendant. These two planets happen to be the Rasi dispositor and Navamsa dispositor of Venus. That is the logic behind this. My question is, if transit of planets do not hold much importance on a native's life, how far is it reasonable to consider the above dictum as good and valid? What if this conjunction occurrs in Cancer itself, where Mars gets debilitated and Jupiter gets exalted? I presume that this theory of dispositors is valid to all other planets, and to their relative rasi + navamsa dispositors too. Am I on the correct path? blessings Renu Explore your hobbies and interests.. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Dear Goelji, Agreed to what you say, but isnt transit fixed beforehand, i.e., even at birth time of a person, so that birth time alone decides complete fate of a person. Birth time decides what transits the person is going to encounter after, say, 25 years. This can be calculated beforehand, i.e., immediately after birth of the child and based on transit, natal chart / dasa calculations, complete future can be predicted. Hence birth time alone controls the entire fate of the person. But such long term calculation of transits, i.e., after 25 years or so was not simple earlier, hence astrologers never used to do all that and simply forecast only on basis of natal chart and dasa. Regards, Vijay. Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Renu ji and Friends, What is transit? Planets are in continuous movement We freeze their placement in zodiac at the time of birth. BPHS CH 3 SHLOKA 6 says: Based on the ascendant and the planets joining and departing from each other, the natives good and bad effects are deduced. 1. The yogas in birth chart indicate Sanchit Karma - i.e. the accumulated fate at the time of birth 2 This fate is progressively unfolds with the progress of Dasa periods 3. the fate converts into destiny -Krayaman -with help of transits The planetary transits run the whole show. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA renunw <renunw Friday, 18 April, 2008 7:26:31 AM Conjunction of Dispositors in Transit Dear members, Let me quote from the book Navamsa in Astrology by CS Patel... [sorry, I am not versed in Sanskrit]... " A native born in Cancer Ascendant, with Venus occupying Dhanus Navmasa in Mesha sign, will have much wealth and be happy, during the period of conjunction in thrasit of Jupiter and Mars [both neutral planets]. " Translation of D.K. 3 p.97 verse 3272 He goes on to say that these two planets whenever in transit conjunct, they produce certain favourable results to the native of Cancer Ascendant. These two planets happen to be the Rasi dispositor and Navamsa dispositor of Venus. That is the logic behind this. My question is, if transit of planets do not hold much importance on a native's life, how far is it reasonable to consider the above dictum as good and valid? What if this conjunction occurrs in Cancer itself, where Mars gets debilitated and Jupiter gets exalted? I presume that this theory of dispositors is valid to all other planets, and to their relative rasi + navamsa dispositors too. Am I on the correct path? blessings Renu Explore your hobbies and interests.. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Dear Goelji If you base your arguments (as mentioned below in your post) on BPHS, I have these findings and opinion about BPHS itself, please give me your opinion for the benefit of members: The available older versions of BPHS written by well versed scholars are(till date): 1. Acharya Sridhara's Sanskrit commentary with hindi translation published by Venkateshwara Steam Press Bombay 2. Commentary by late Sita Ram Jha published by Master Kheladi lal and sons, Varanasi 3. Commentary by Devachandra Jha published by Chaukhamba Vidhya Bhavan, Varanasi 4. Commentary by Ganesh Dutta Pathak published by Thakur Prasad Pustak Bhandar 5. Nilakantha (1443-1543AD) and Sundararaja mentions that Govindasvamin (800-50AD) has written a work called Sampradayapradipika which is a commentary on Parasara hora and whereabouts of this work is still unknown However, based on these (more or less) some modern writers like G.C Sharma and R Santhanam (incomplete version but only completed by some other person) have attempted their own, sub-standard works about which I would like not to discuss Vachaspati, Jyotisha Vijnana Bhaskar, Rashtrapati Puraskar Sri Madhura Krishna Murthy is presently writing BPHS in 5 volumes, and he has already published 3 volumes. In his magnum opus, Sri Murthy says in the preface that " Among these four available versions, 1 and 4 are nearly similar, and 2 and 3 are similar to each other. He says that - after thorough cross checking these versions with the available manuscripts (at different Oriental Libraries) - 1) the adhyaya krama or order of chapters are not matching, 2) the number of chapters are also not coinciding Above cited 1 and 4 versions have two parts called Purva and Uttara with 51 and 20 chapters respectively, while 2 and 4 versions have 65 and 31 chapters respectively ( Devachandra Jha's version contains 3 chapters more, 2 in first part and 1 in second part)which are still short of 100 chapters as endorsed by Parasara in last of BPHS. If we also visit Jaipur Pothikhana where there exists wonderful collection of Astrology and Astronomy,we could not find manuscript of BPHS, please one can refer " appendix V of Sawai Jai Singh and his astronomy " by V N Sarma, published by MLBD. I personally made a visit and found many works dealing mainly on works of Acharyas of AD but less on BC, and there is an original copy of Brihatjataka with tika etc, Sripati with tika, Jaimini Sutra vritti etc. implying more development existed after Kalyana Verma till Kesava and Sripati in Varahamihira's school Of course, there are many Oriental bhandagars, discussion of which will be boring to many members, My question to you or any distinguished scholar is: Can they take us into time line from present to the time of Parashara (if we are referring to father of Vyasa, then it is around 5100 years back since now, and Varahamihira existed more than half way i.e.,around 505 AD and he in his magnum opus Brihatjataka mentions in second stanza that after thoroughly examining many schools he is presenting a boat called " Hora Tantra " (please note the word Tantra) to those Intelligent - Patu buddhibihi) and he does no where adopts Vimsottari Satam or other dasas mentioned by Parasara Now regarding the question put forth by you " What is transit? " I have already given explanation in my earlier posts, and to one of the member Mr Vijaya Narasimha Pakka, who feels how in olden days it is possible to erect planetary positions etc, he or other members too can click this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism and I plead all to pay obeisances to this wonderful Yantra and have a great feeling of time travel and visualise the master mind of Great Acharya Varahamihira Jai Jaimini Jai Varahamihira Jairadhe Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa <sohamsa > Friday, 18 April, 2008 5:06:41 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Conjunction of Dispositors in Transit Dear Renu ji and Friends, What is transit? Planets are in continuous movement We freeze their placement in zodiac at the time of birth. BPHS CH 3 SHLOKA 6 says: Based on the ascendant and the planets joining and departing from each other, the natives good and bad effects are deduced. 1. The yogas in birth chart indicate Sanchit Karma - i.e. the accumulated fate at the time of birth 2 This fate is progressively unfolds with the progress of Dasa periods 3. the fate converts into destiny -Krayaman -with help of transits The planetary transits run the whole show. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, 18 April, 2008 7:26:31 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Conjunction of Dispositors in Transit Dear members, Let me quote from the book Navamsa in Astrology by CS Patel... [sorry, I am not versed in Sanskrit]... " A native born in Cancer Ascendant, with Venus occupying Dhanus Navmasa in Mesha sign, will have much wealth and be happy, during the period of conjunction in thrasit of Jupiter and Mars [both neutral planets]. " Translation of D.K. 3 p.97 verse 3272 He goes on to say that these two planets whenever in transit conjunct, they produce certain favourable results to the native of Cancer Ascendant. These two planets happen to be the Rasi dispositor and Navamsa dispositor of Venus. That is the logic behind this. My question is, if transit of planets do not hold much importance on a native's life, how far is it reasonable to consider the above dictum as good and valid? What if this conjunction occurrs in Cancer itself, where Mars gets debilitated and Jupiter gets exalted? I presume that this theory of dispositors is valid to all other planets, and to their relative rasi + navamsa dispositors too. Am I on the correct path? blessings Renu Explore your hobbies and interests.. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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