Unneeded arguments and personality clashes

[Guest guest]

Namaste friends,

 

There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments on this

recently. I have seen it on other too.

 

Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to the fire and

dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not drag these useless threads

and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants who break the peace here deserve to

be ignored. If you start arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never

end. More importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

 

The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that creates trouble

is not going to mislead the silent majority. The silent majority knows who is

genuine and who is here to create trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an

unjustified attack and reacting, just ignore.

 

As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and try to stick to

the subject and make sure that your mail has astrological content.

 

* * *

 

A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action on certain

people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer (narayan.iyer)

is the moderator. If you have any complaints, please send him a mail.

 

However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough to manage. If we

ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id and create trouble again.

There are solutions but they take a lot of effort and time and cause some

inconvenience. The best way to combat abuse here is to ignore it. Please

co-operate.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

 

Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

Spirituality:

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Narsimhaji,

 

Namaste.

 

My name has unnecessary been taken behind my back, and

fake ids attributed to my name,without any inlking of truth

to it. All those who know me, also know that

I do not need fake ids to hit back at my opponents.

And I wonder when 2 brothers can not love each other,

in this world, why internet strangers would help me in

joining me to become my gang members. What gang and

what gang members ? This man is talking

out of results of unusual height of imaginations.

 

You see again this man Prashant GB has not left this opportunity to

create heat and unnecessary highlight issues which were long buried.

He was the cause to get me kicked out of this Forum, when i was

in my original id Bhaskar Jyotish.

He had created unnecessary rifts bewteen me and

one good member Prafullaji, and then mopped it up with mails to the

members and the Moderator ( That time too it

was Mr. Narayanan). He has been actively busy lately,

also in highlighting issues between Your kindself ad me, which never

existed in the first case.

 

This current id I am using just for knowledge of

the hapennings in this Forum related to astrology. And once kicked

out

I have enough self respect not to participate again in this group,

through

any id, which you may please take note of.

 

he is talking about Prashant Pandey and other members of my

Gang, which exists not, and I dont know any of these

personally. In fact those who oppose him, join my gang as per his

dictum.

This gentleman Prashant Pandey and Prashant GB have both extended

hands to each other in friendship, just lately in the Jyotish

group. Then

how can he be my chamcha or one of my gang members.

And tell me Narsimharaoji, who has time in Bombay

to induklge in such lowly behaviours as suggested and indulged in by

Mr.Prashant GB ?

 

Pl. note that Mr.Prashant GB has no shame whatsoever in practising as

a astrologer, when you would find no astrological content in his

postings,

but just declarations unsupported by logistics, and he feels jealous

of every

astrologer shining on the horizon, for he wishes to stay alone

on the mantle, and be respected as the only one. Pray tell me Sir,

are these feelings good to be mantained in any astrologer ?

 

You will have to stay watchful about such people as Prashant GB ,

who may stab anyone in the backs, for small gains.

 

And you may please rest assured about me, I am not here to harm

your reputation through any angle or spoil the peace of any Forum .

At least I have better work than this, to do.

 

HE HAS CALLED ME MANY NAMES AND SO HAS HE DONE

TO GANGA , but we shall keep this behind us, as this is nondescript

and

expected behaviour from him, which is the outcome

of jealousy and unprofessional behaviour expected from a

person who is unworthy of his created and projected stature.

 

best wishes,

 

Respectfully Yours,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments on

this recently. I have seen it on other too.

>

> Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to the

fire and dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not drag

these useless threads and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants

who break the peace here deserve to be ignored. If you start

arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never end. More

importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

>

> The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that

creates trouble is not going to mislead the silent majority. The

silent majority knows who is genuine and who is here to create

trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an unjustified attack and

reacting, just ignore.

>

> As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and try

to stick to the subject and make sure that your mail has

astrological content.

>

> * * *

>

> A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action

on certain people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer

(narayan.iyer) is the moderator. If you have any complaints,

please send him a mail.

>

> However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough to

manage. If we ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id and

create trouble again. There are solutions but they take a lot of

effort and time and cause some inconvenience. The best way to combat

abuse here is to ignore it. Please co-operate.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected PVR ji,

 

When some one calls you a ‘JOKER’, it is not a personality clash.

Personality clash is amongst equals. Such remarks are a result of

jealousy arising out of inferiority complex.

Every body on the net respects you as a great scholar of astrology,

not only for your software which every body uses, but for your

knowledge of both the Parashar and the Gemini Paddhatis.

Similarly when some one attacks another respected astrologer like GB

Prashant Kumar aka Shubh Vela ji, it smacks of jealousy.

Their intentions are clear; they want to discredit well established

and renowned astrologers like you and Shubh Vela ji. No body ever

became great by discrediting others. One becomes great by building

himself up and not by shortening down some one else.

I never want this thread to continue, but some one from the silent

majority has to speak up and let it be known that we hate such petty

jealousy and this game of discrediting respected astrologers must

stop.

 

With great respect,

 

Dharma Veer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments on

this recently. I have seen it on other too.

>

> Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to the

fire and dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not drag

these useless threads and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants

who break the peace here deserve to be ignored. If you start

arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never end. More

importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

>

> The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that

creates trouble is not going to mislead the silent majority. The

silent majority knows who is genuine and who is here to create

trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an unjustified attack and

reacting, just ignore.

>

> As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and try

to stick to the subject and make sure that your mail has

astrological content.

>

> * * *

>

> A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action

on certain people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer

(narayan.iyer) is the moderator. If you have any complaints,

please send him a mail.

>

> However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough to

manage. If we ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id and

create trouble again. There are solutions but they take a lot of

effort and time and cause some inconvenience. The best way to combat

abuse here is to ignore it. Please co-operate.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dharma Veer,

 

sorry last time I got ur name spelt wrongly u must also speak for Rafel ji who

has worked so hard in many groups and very resourceful helpful was also targeted

by prashant pandey for over 2 weeks in such low level that befits only the

gutter bang of his boss

 

this gang leader again lies that I amd he have joined hands it is NEWS TO ME,

every attempt to patch up with them ended in more abuses to me by them and none

of them will ever change.

 

Bhaskar was banned in VA well before I was a member here so why blame me for

all his self created deeds

 

I have told him several times he is his own BHASMASURA [one who destroys

oneself=by sheer arrogance] gets into fights with every one now claims nothing

existed in his attacks on sri PVNJi so many mails with terrible abbuses were

sent by him and his gang, I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN IT but had a chance to see it

in the fag end when sri PVNji was being abused stood by a great man

 

I HAVE ADMIRED all good astrologers in every group so where is jealousy

 

I have also helped many new members learning this subject as giving back to

the subject is more important. if we don't turture fresh talent who else will.?

 

I have appriciated all good new members in many groups like gaurav gosh, anup

m, astro nikit, etc and still this also attracts critism form them

 

I HAVE NEVER done what these jokers do, judge other astrologer's writings, we

can offer our views without commenting on others

 

if one sees the PC BABA and now krishnakumar bagri will this not be clear it

is one and same, the language, discredting me is same but this creature will

never change and the most banned, hated member he is and a casual visit to

groups where he is banned shows the trut h to anyone

 

and he likes getting attention, disturbances etc so will come back with a few

more fake ID;s

 

if he has anything worthy will make his jealous gutter a true jyotish ganga,

but then one must have some stuff for it isnt it.

 

thanks for seeing the trugh, hope more members come out in support of fellow

astrolgoers against the gang members

 

Best wishes

 

 

" dharmaveer.dahiya " <dharmaveer.dahiya wrote:

Respected PVR ji,

 

When some one calls you a ‘JOKER’, it is not a personality clash.

Personality clash is amongst equals. Such remarks are a result of

jealousy arising out of inferiority complex.

Every body on the net respects you as a great scholar of astrology,

not only for your software which every body uses, but for your

knowledge of both the Parashar and the Gemini Paddhatis.

Similarly when some one attacks another respected astrologer like GB

Prashant Kumar aka Shubh Vela ji, it smacks of jealousy.

Their intentions are clear; they want to discredit well established

and renowned astrologers like you and Shubh Vela ji. No body ever

became great by discrediting others. One becomes great by building

himself up and not by shortening down some one else.

I never want this thread to continue, but some one from the silent

majority has to speak up and let it be known that we hate such petty

jealousy and this game of discrediting respected astrologers must

stop.

 

With great respect,

 

Dharma Veer

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments on

this recently. I have seen it on other too.

>

> Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to the

fire and dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not drag

these useless threads and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants

who break the peace here deserve to be ignored. If you start

arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never end. More

importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

>

> The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that

creates trouble is not going to mislead the silent majority. The

silent majority knows who is genuine and who is here to create

trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an unjustified attack and

reacting, just ignore.

>

> As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and try

to stick to the subject and make sure that your mail has

astrological content.

>

> * * *

>

> A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action

on certain people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer

(narayan.iyer) is the moderator. If you have any complaints,

please send him a mail.

>

> However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough to

manage. If we ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id and

create trouble again. There are solutions but they take a lot of

effort and time and cause some inconvenience. The best way to combat

abuse here is to ignore it. Please co-operate.

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------

> Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear members of the Vedic Astrology Forum,

 

I am not here to participate in the discussions nor canvass

for clients like Mr. GB Prashant, but only for clearing my

name from the blemishes activated continously by the evil

person and jealous astrologer GB Prashant.

 

//u must also speak for Rafel ji who has worked so hard in many

groups and very resourceful helpful was also targeted by prashant

pandey for over 2 weeks in such low level that befits only the

gutter bang of his boss //

 

How am I oppose to Rafelji ? When did I have anty tiff with him ?

Why should i tell anyone to talk against him ? How is Mr.Prashant

Pandeys utterances lead to be believed as My Orders. How am I

related to Mr.Prashant pandey ? I dont even know him personally,

except through the Forum, just as much as GB Prashant knows, so how

can his utterances be attributed to me ? Utterly ridiculous.

Tomorrow if some

member speaks against the prime Minister, then he becomes MY Gang

Member ? What nonsense is this ?

How can i be responsible for anyone elses statements ? In todays

world even own son does not listen to his father, and here I dont

even know this person Prashant Pandeyji, so how come GB Prashant is

linking his utterances against Rafelji, to me ? It is evident that

he is using the situation to his advantage by maligning me and

spoiling my reputation which he has tried to tarnish unsuccessfully

continously.

 

This mad man is a zealous astrologer, and wants all succesful

astrologers to be out of the Forums, so that he can gather all

propsective business and fill his own kitty. This is very clear to

all now.

 

// this gang leader again lies that I amd he have joined hands it is

NEWS TO ME, every attempt to patch up with them ended in more abuses

to me by them and none of them will ever change. //

 

Please check message No. 49735 written by GB Prashant , and Prashant

Pandeys reply to GB Prashant

Message no.49737 in same thread.

 

//Bhaskar was banned in VA well before I was a member here so why

blame me for all his self created deeds //

 

Read message No. 79656 Dated 31st August 2006 in this same Forum VA,

and also many other mails by him during those dates, which were all

aimed at spoiling my reputation and with one sole aim, of getting me

pushed out from here. And he says that I was banned in VA before he

joined.

Actually GB Prashant was jeaolus of me from day one since I entered

Jyotish remedies, due to my clear cut predictions with supporting

astrological data, which he could not stand and bear out of jealousy

which has been brewing in him ever since that day I joined the

Astrological Forums..

 

// I have told him several times he is his own BHASMASURA [one who

destroys oneself=by sheer arrogance] gets into fights with every one

now claims nothing existed in his attacks on sri PVNJi so many mails

with terrible abbuses were sent by him and his gang, I DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN IT but had a chance to see it in the fag end when sri

PVNji was being abused stood by a great man //

 

He has only tried to create mileage of such issues and spoil my name

always, as clearlty evident. Now he is trying to create heat

between me and Rafelji where no such heat or animosity exists, you

may ask rafelji about this. I also ask him where have I abused PV

Narsimharao Sahab.

 

// I have also helped many new members learning this subject as

giving back to the subject is more important. if we don't turture

fresh talent who else will.?

I have appriciated all good new members in many groups like gaurav

gosh, anup m, astro nikit, etc and still this also attracts critism

form them

I HAVE NEVER done what these jokers do, judge other astrologer's

writings, we can offer our views without commenting on others //

 

I am sorry but this man DOES NOT KNOW ASTROLOGY. HE HAS CLEARLY

EVADED THE ASTROLOGICAL QUERIES PUT UP BY PUBLICTY CREATORS AND

TURNED THE TOPIC FROM REPLYING ASTROLOGICALLY TO CHARACTER

ASSASSINATION .

 

// if he has anything worthy will make his jealous gutter a true

jyotish ganga, but then one must have some stuff for it isnt it. //

 

Shameless utterances coming through jealousy for others is clealry

seen.

 

// thanks for seeing the trugh, hope more members come out in

support of fellow astrolgoers against the gang members //

 

The Members are not born today that they cant see through your games

Mr.Prashant GB. Become older and dont play childish schoolboy

games.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Mee Shuba Vela

<pkgoteti wrote:

>

> Dear Dharma Veer,

>

> sorry last time I got ur name spelt wrongly u must also speak

for Rafel ji who has worked so hard in many groups and very

resourceful helpful was also targeted by prashant pandey for over 2

weeks in such low level that befits only the gutter bang of his boss

>

> this gang leader again lies that I amd he have joined hands it

is NEWS TO ME, every attempt to patch up with them ended in more

abuses to me by them and none of them will ever change.

>

> Bhaskar was banned in VA well before I was a member here so why

blame me for all his self created deeds

>

> I have told him several times he is his own BHASMASURA [one who

destroys oneself=by sheer arrogance] gets into fights with every one

now claims nothing existed in his attacks on sri PVNJi so many mails

with terrible abbuses were sent by him and his gang, I DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN IT but had a chance to see it in the fag end when sri

PVNji was being abused stood by a great man

>

> I HAVE ADMIRED all good astrologers in every group so where is

jealousy

>

> I have also helped many new members learning this subject as

giving back to the subject is more important. if we don't turture

fresh talent who else will.?

>

> I have appriciated all good new members in many groups like

gaurav gosh, anup m, astro nikit, etc and still this also attracts

critism form them

>

> I HAVE NEVER done what these jokers do, judge other astrologer's

writings, we can offer our views without commenting on others

>

> if one sees the PC BABA and now krishnakumar bagri will this not

be clear it is one and same, the language, discredting me is same

but this creature will never change and the most banned, hated

member he is and a casual visit to groups where he is banned shows

the trut h to anyone

>

> and he likes getting attention, disturbances etc so will come

back with a few more fake ID;s

>

> if he has anything worthy will make his jealous gutter a true

jyotish ganga, but then one must have some stuff for it isnt it.

>

> thanks for seeing the trugh, hope more members come out in

support of fellow astrolgoers against the gang members

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> " dharmaveer.dahiya " <dharmaveer.dahiya wrote:

> Respected PVR ji,

>

> When some one calls you a ‘JOKER’, it is not a personality

clash.

> Personality clash is amongst equals. Such remarks are a result of

> jealousy arising out of inferiority complex.

> Every body on the net respects you as a great scholar of

astrology,

> not only for your software which every body uses, but for your

> knowledge of both the Parashar and the Gemini Paddhatis.

> Similarly when some one attacks another respected astrologer like

GB

> Prashant Kumar aka Shubh Vela ji, it smacks of jealousy.

> Their intentions are clear; they want to discredit well

established

> and renowned astrologers like you and Shubh Vela ji. No body ever

> became great by discrediting others. One becomes great by building

> himself up and not by shortening down some one else.

> I never want this thread to continue, but some one from the silent

> majority has to speak up and let it be known that we hate such

petty

> jealousy and this game of discrediting respected astrologers must

> stop.

>

> With great respect,

>

> Dharma Veer

>

> vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

> <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments

on

> this recently. I have seen it on other too.

> >

> > Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to

the

> fire and dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not

drag

> these useless threads and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants

> who break the peace here deserve to be ignored. If you start

> arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never end. More

> importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

> >

> > The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that

> creates trouble is not going to mislead the silent majority. The

> silent majority knows who is genuine and who is here to create

> trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an unjustified attack and

> reacting, just ignore.

> >

> > As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and

try

> to stick to the subject and make sure that your mail has

> astrological content.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action

> on certain people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer

> (narayan.iyer@) is the moderator. If you have any complaints,

> please send him a mail.

> >

> > However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough

to

> manage. If we ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id

and

> create trouble again. There are solutions but they take a lot of

> effort and time and cause some inconvenience. The best way to

combat

> abuse here is to ignore it. Please co-operate.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > Spirituality:

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Narsimharaoji,

 

I think its high time now that you should put a stop

to this blame game embarked by this man GB Prashant.

 

Where and when did I abused you ? Do I have to tell you

again and again for the respect you carry in my heart for

your spiritual attainments and expositions ? Why is this

man allowed to say again and again that I am against

you, when you know for real that this is not the case

at all. You may pleas etake me to any temple or

make me swear on the Bhagavad gita, and check if I have

ever abused you.

 

You know very well that mileage is sought for personal advantage by

Mr. Prashant GB, from the small differences of opinions in

astrological discussions, between two Members, which is but natural,

and which should not be given a name of " ABUSE " , as Mr. Prashant Gb

is trying to do.

 

This man GB Prashant was the caus efor me being ousted from

this esteemed forum, and the Moderator " Narayanana " unjustiifcably

did not pay heed to my implorations of justice, but acted one sided

and biased by axing my membership, for crimes not done by me.

But anyway I am not here to beg for membership, but just to clear my

name from this ambushed stabbing done on me by Mr.Prashant GB. Thats

all.

 

I am not here to participate in the astrological discussions, so

please let these over jealous persons know that they need not face

any threats of any kind for me.

 

Neither am I here to spoil the proceedings. Publicty creators (I

dont know who he is, but using my style of writings) had asked

GB Prashant some astrological queries regarding the replies he had

given to some members, and instead of replying those queries, he

started hitting out at me, which made me enter the thread here,

otherwise did you ever see me here ?

After being insulted and thrown out, i am the last person to set my

foot again on any territoty as such.

 

This is your forum, if I know right, and please dont allow back

stabbings of other respected people.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , Mee Shuba Vela

<pkgoteti wrote:

>

> Dear Dharma Veer,

>

> sorry last time I got ur name spelt wrongly u must also speak

for Rafel ji who has worked so hard in many groups and very

resourceful helpful was also targeted by prashant pandey for over 2

weeks in such low level that befits only the gutter bang of his boss

>

> this gang leader again lies that I amd he have joined hands it

is NEWS TO ME, every attempt to patch up with them ended in more

abuses to me by them and none of them will ever change.

>

> Bhaskar was banned in VA well before I was a member here so why

blame me for all his self created deeds

>

> I have told him several times he is his own BHASMASURA [one who

destroys oneself=by sheer arrogance] gets into fights with every one

now claims nothing existed in his attacks on sri PVNJi so many mails

with terrible abbuses were sent by him and his gang, I DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN IT but had a chance to see it in the fag end when sri

PVNji was being abused stood by a great man

>

> I HAVE ADMIRED all good astrologers in every group so where is

jealousy

>

> I have also helped many new members learning this subject as

giving back to the subject is more important. if we don't turture

fresh talent who else will.?

>

> I have appriciated all good new members in many groups like

gaurav gosh, anup m, astro nikit, etc and still this also attracts

critism form them

>

> I HAVE NEVER done what these jokers do, judge other astrologer's

writings, we can offer our views without commenting on others

>

> if one sees the PC BABA and now krishnakumar bagri will this not

be clear it is one and same, the language, discredting me is same

but this creature will never change and the most banned, hated

member he is and a casual visit to groups where he is banned shows

the trut h to anyone

>

> and he likes getting attention, disturbances etc so will come

back with a few more fake ID;s

>

> if he has anything worthy will make his jealous gutter a true

jyotish ganga, but then one must have some stuff for it isnt it.

>

> thanks for seeing the trugh, hope more members come out in

support of fellow astrolgoers against the gang members

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> " dharmaveer.dahiya " <dharmaveer.dahiya wrote:

> Respected PVR ji,

>

> When some one calls you a ‘JOKER’, it is not a personality

clash.

> Personality clash is amongst equals. Such remarks are a result of

> jealousy arising out of inferiority complex.

> Every body on the net respects you as a great scholar of

astrology,

> not only for your software which every body uses, but for your

> knowledge of both the Parashar and the Gemini Paddhatis.

> Similarly when some one attacks another respected astrologer like

GB

> Prashant Kumar aka Shubh Vela ji, it smacks of jealousy.

> Their intentions are clear; they want to discredit well

established

> and renowned astrologers like you and Shubh Vela ji. No body ever

> became great by discrediting others. One becomes great by building

> himself up and not by shortening down some one else.

> I never want this thread to continue, but some one from the silent

> majority has to speak up and let it be known that we hate such

petty

> jealousy and this game of discrediting respected astrologers must

> stop.

>

> With great respect,

>

> Dharma Veer

>

> vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

> <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments

on

> this recently. I have seen it on other too.

> >

> > Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to

the

> fire and dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not

drag

> these useless threads and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants

> who break the peace here deserve to be ignored. If you start

> arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never end. More

> importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

> >

> > The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that

> creates trouble is not going to mislead the silent majority. The

> silent majority knows who is genuine and who is here to create

> trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an unjustified attack and

> reacting, just ignore.

> >

> > As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and

try

> to stick to the subject and make sure that your mail has

> astrological content.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action

> on certain people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer

> (narayan.iyer@) is the moderator. If you have any complaints,

> please send him a mail.

> >

> > However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough

to

> manage. If we ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id

and

> create trouble again. There are solutions but they take a lot of

> effort and time and cause some inconvenience. The best way to

combat

> abuse here is to ignore it. Please co-operate.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > Spirituality:

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Respected Shri KRISHNAKUMAR ji.It is always a treat for the mind and soul to

read ur email correspondences.in these astro forums.It is a personal request to

rejoin these forums and start contributing to astro discussions.World is and

shall always remain full of spineless ,characterless,distorted personality

traits persons.But should a responsible and intelligent person like u care for

these social parasites.I dont think PVR ji is going to respond in the manner

appropriate and transparent so as to dispel doubts.Pl do remember that

illuminance of light always dispels darkness,and water always makes its

ownpath.Hope u do join back and enrich the discussion content on these forums.

Dr a mehta

 

krishnakumarbagri <rajiventerprises wrote:

Dear members of the Vedic Astrology Forum,

 

I am not here to participate in the discussions nor canvass

for clients like Mr. GB Prashant, but only for clearing my

name from the blemishes activated continously by the evil

person and jealous astrologer GB Prashant.

 

//u must also speak for Rafel ji who has worked so hard in many

groups and very resourceful helpful was also targeted by prashant

pandey for over 2 weeks in such low level that befits only the

gutter bang of his boss //

 

How am I oppose to Rafelji ? When did I have anty tiff with him ?

Why should i tell anyone to talk against him ? How is Mr.Prashant

Pandeys utterances lead to be believed as My Orders. How am I

related to Mr.Prashant pandey ? I dont even know him personally,

except through the Forum, just as much as GB Prashant knows, so how

can his utterances be attributed to me ? Utterly ridiculous.

Tomorrow if some

member speaks against the prime Minister, then he becomes MY Gang

Member ? What nonsense is this ?

How can i be responsible for anyone elses statements ? In todays

world even own son does not listen to his father, and here I dont

even know this person Prashant Pandeyji, so how come GB Prashant is

linking his utterances against Rafelji, to me ? It is evident that

he is using the situation to his advantage by maligning me and

spoiling my reputation which he has tried to tarnish unsuccessfully

continously.

 

This mad man is a zealous astrologer, and wants all succesful

astrologers to be out of the Forums, so that he can gather all

propsective business and fill his own kitty. This is very clear to

all now.

 

// this gang leader again lies that I amd he have joined hands it is

NEWS TO ME, every attempt to patch up with them ended in more abuses

to me by them and none of them will ever change. //

 

Please check message No. 49735 written by GB Prashant , and Prashant

Pandeys reply to GB Prashant

Message no.49737 in same thread.

 

//Bhaskar was banned in VA well before I was a member here so why

blame me for all his self created deeds //

 

Read message No. 79656 Dated 31st August 2006 in this same Forum VA,

and also many other mails by him during those dates, which were all

aimed at spoiling my reputation and with one sole aim, of getting me

pushed out from here. And he says that I was banned in VA before he

joined.

Actually GB Prashant was jeaolus of me from day one since I entered

Jyotish remedies, due to my clear cut predictions with supporting

astrological data, which he could not stand and bear out of jealousy

which has been brewing in him ever since that day I joined the

Astrological Forums..

 

// I have told him several times he is his own BHASMASURA [one who

destroys oneself=by sheer arrogance] gets into fights with every one

now claims nothing existed in his attacks on sri PVNJi so many mails

with terrible abbuses were sent by him and his gang, I DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN IT but had a chance to see it in the fag end when sri

PVNji was being abused stood by a great man //

 

He has only tried to create mileage of such issues and spoil my name

always, as clearlty evident. Now he is trying to create heat

between me and Rafelji where no such heat or animosity exists, you

may ask rafelji about this. I also ask him where have I abused PV

Narsimharao Sahab.

 

// I have also helped many new members learning this subject as

giving back to the subject is more important. if we don't turture

fresh talent who else will.?

I have appriciated all good new members in many groups like gaurav

gosh, anup m, astro nikit, etc and still this also attracts critism

form them

I HAVE NEVER done what these jokers do, judge other astrologer's

writings, we can offer our views without commenting on others //

 

I am sorry but this man DOES NOT KNOW ASTROLOGY. HE HAS CLEARLY

EVADED THE ASTROLOGICAL QUERIES PUT UP BY PUBLICTY CREATORS AND

TURNED THE TOPIC FROM REPLYING ASTROLOGICALLY TO CHARACTER

ASSASSINATION .

 

// if he has anything worthy will make his jealous gutter a true

jyotish ganga, but then one must have some stuff for it isnt it. //

 

Shameless utterances coming through jealousy for others is clealry

seen.

 

// thanks for seeing the trugh, hope more members come out in

support of fellow astrolgoers against the gang members //

 

The Members are not born today that they cant see through your games

Mr.Prashant GB. Become older and dont play childish schoolboy

games.

 

Bhaskar.

 

vedic astrology , Mee Shuba Vela

<pkgoteti wrote:

>

> Dear Dharma Veer,

>

> sorry last time I got ur name spelt wrongly u must also speak

for Rafel ji who has worked so hard in many groups and very

resourceful helpful was also targeted by prashant pandey for over 2

weeks in such low level that befits only the gutter bang of his boss

>

> this gang leader again lies that I amd he have joined hands it

is NEWS TO ME, every attempt to patch up with them ended in more

abuses to me by them and none of them will ever change.

>

> Bhaskar was banned in VA well before I was a member here so why

blame me for all his self created deeds

>

> I have told him several times he is his own BHASMASURA [one who

destroys oneself=by sheer arrogance] gets into fights with every one

now claims nothing existed in his attacks on sri PVNJi so many mails

with terrible abbuses were sent by him and his gang, I DID NOT

PARTICIPATE IN IT but had a chance to see it in the fag end when sri

PVNji was being abused stood by a great man

>

> I HAVE ADMIRED all good astrologers in every group so where is

jealousy

>

> I have also helped many new members learning this subject as

giving back to the subject is more important. if we don't turture

fresh talent who else will.?

>

> I have appriciated all good new members in many groups like

gaurav gosh, anup m, astro nikit, etc and still this also attracts

critism form them

>

> I HAVE NEVER done what these jokers do, judge other astrologer's

writings, we can offer our views without commenting on others

>

> if one sees the PC BABA and now krishnakumar bagri will this not

be clear it is one and same, the language, discredting me is same

but this creature will never change and the most banned, hated

member he is and a casual visit to groups where he is banned shows

the trut h to anyone

>

> and he likes getting attention, disturbances etc so will come

back with a few more fake ID;s

>

> if he has anything worthy will make his jealous gutter a true

jyotish ganga, but then one must have some stuff for it isnt it.

>

> thanks for seeing the trugh, hope more members come out in

support of fellow astrolgoers against the gang members

>

> Best wishes

>

>

> " dharmaveer.dahiya " <dharmaveer.dahiya wrote:

> Respected PVR ji,

>

> When some one calls you a ‘JOKER’, it is not a personality

clash.

> Personality clash is amongst equals. Such remarks are a result of

> jealousy arising out of inferiority complex.

> Every body on the net respects you as a great scholar of

astrology,

> not only for your software which every body uses, but for your

> knowledge of both the Parashar and the Gemini Paddhatis.

> Similarly when some one attacks another respected astrologer like

GB

> Prashant Kumar aka Shubh Vela ji, it smacks of jealousy.

> Their intentions are clear; they want to discredit well

established

> and renowned astrologers like you and Shubh Vela ji. No body ever

> became great by discrediting others. One becomes great by building

> himself up and not by shortening down some one else.

> I never want this thread to continue, but some one from the silent

> majority has to speak up and let it be known that we hate such

petty

> jealousy and this game of discrediting respected astrologers must

> stop.

>

> With great respect,

>

> Dharma Veer

>

> vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

> <pvr@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > There have been some personality clashes and unneeded arguments

on

> this recently. I have seen it on other too.

> >

> > Some people are getting aggravated by this and adding fuel to

the

> fire and dragging the issue. I humbly request everybody to not

drag

> these useless threads and to put them to rest quickly. Miscreants

> who break the peace here deserve to be ignored. If you start

> arguments and counter-attacks with them, it will never end. More

> importantly, nothing productive will come out of it.

> >

> > The silent majority is not dumb. The hyper-vocal minority that

> creates trouble is not going to mislead the silent majority. The

> silent majority knows who is genuine and who is here to create

> trouble. Instead of getting agitated by an unjustified attack and

> reacting, just ignore.

> >

> > As far as possible, please cut down on unproductive mails and

try

> to stick to the subject and make sure that your mail has

> astrological content.

> >

> > * * *

> >

> > A lot of people have been sending me mails asking to take action

> on certain people. I am not moderating the list now. Narayan Iyer

> (narayan.iyer@) is the moderator. If you have any complaints,

> please send him a mail.

> >

> > However, please realize that a list of this magnitude is tough

to

> manage. If we ban some miscreants, they come back with a new id

and

> create trouble again. There are solutions but they take a lot of

> effort and time and cause some inconvenience. The best way to

combat

> abuse here is to ignore it. Please co-operate.

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------

> > Do Ganapathi Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > Spirituality:

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------

> >

> >

> >