Father's opinion on a native (Arudhas)

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Dear narasimha

 

The Role of graha arudhas is not so limited

 

As we all know there are different saggregation of karakas for

different roles.

karakas represent the influence of various things in our life. Based

on the gunas: Sattva, Rajas and Tamas the karakas can be classified

as Naisargik karaka which is dominant in Rajas Guna, the Chara

Karaka which is dominant in the Sattva guna and the the Sthira

Karaka which is dominant in the Tamas guna.

[sTHIRA KARAKA

Stronger among Sun and Venus- Father

Stronger among Moon and Mars- Moon

Mars- Younger sister, younger brother brother-in-law, sister-in-law

Mercury- Maternal uncles, aunts and all maternal relatives

Jupiter- paternal grand parents, Husband (for female chart), children

Venus- Wife, maternal grandparents, father & mother-in-law, maternal

grand parents

Saturn- Elder brother & Elder sister]

 

Naisargik karakas are governed by Brahma

chara karaka by the vishnu and sthira by the shiva....

In other words ANYTHING which is in a state of creation would be

ruled by naisargik karakas.(would deal more with nature rather than

individua]

ANYTHING which is in a state of sustainence is lorded by chara karaka

(HENCE most important of all)

and similarly state of destruction by sthira karaka.

 

Apart from the above three classification the significance of the

bhavas are to be known by Bhava karaka.

Lagna- Sun

2nd- Jupiter

3rd- Mars

4th- Moon, Mercury

5th- Jupiter

6th- Mars, Saturn

7th- Venus

8th- Saturn

9th- Sun, Jupiter

10th- Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn

11th- Jupiter

12th- Saturn

 

Now when we talk of Graha arudhas as a wholistic term it would

involve the importance of all categories of karakas in different

perspective.

 

For example if we are talking of the ARUDHA of sun.

The results should be seen considering these in different aspects:-

 

1) Arudha of sun considering him as a sthira karak for father if

stronger than venus would show the " Risen one " of the destruction of

the father.[As it is sthira karaka for father]

2) Arudha of sun considering him as a Chara karaka(Lets say sun is a

DARAKARAK) would show the " risen one " of the SUSTAINENCE of the

spouse.

To see " risen one " of the sustainence of the father, arudh of

PITRIKARA should be considered.

3) Arudha of the Sun considering him as a naisargik karaka of the

[The Soul,Power, Fire, Worship Of Siva, Courage, Thorned Trees,

Being In Royal Favour, Self-Realization, World Of Mortals (Mrtyu

Loka), Square shape, Bone (skeletal system),The Belly, Half A Year

(uttarayana / dakshinayana), Eye (right), Wandering Over The

Mountains (wanderer), Quadruped (also the birds), King,Eye Disease

Body (vitality in the body), Timber (wood), Mental Purity, Lordship

Of The Whole Country (sovereign), Freedom Form Disease, Lord Of

Saurashtra State, Disease In The Head, Precious stones Short Like A

Dwarf, Lord Of The Eastern Direction, Blood, Kingdom, Public Life,

River Bank, Coral, Ruby, Strong At Mid-Day (Noon), Mouth, Long

Standing Anger, Capture Of The Enemy, Sattvik (Pure)]

 

would be the " risen one " of the creation of the above mentioned

things in our life.

 

and finally

4) The arudha of sun considering him as a bhava karak of the 9th and

10th houses would be the PARTIAL(as there are also other karakas of

9th and 10th houses) " risen one " of these two houses.

 

Regards

Nikhil Gupta

 

 

vedic astrology , pvr wrote:

>

> My dear Narayan,

>

> I am glad that you remembered graha arudhas. However, your

thinking

> is not completely accurate.

>

> Rasis and houses show the environmental influences, while planets

> show people. For example, some people think that the 9th house

shows

> father. But, in reality, 9th house shows guidance and protection

> received (from father) and not the father. Father is shown by the

9th

> lord (a planet). Similarly, people are shown by planets.

>

> Arudha means " risen one " . It shows how different things rise

> (manifest) in the world. Bhava arudhas show how the matters of a

> bhava (house) rise materially. For example, the 5th house shows

> intelligence, skills and abilities. They live inside one and

cannot

> be seen by the outside world. They rise materially as one's

scores,

> awards and prizes (and the outside world can see THEM). So, that's

> what A5 (arudha of 5th house) shows. Similarly, graha arudhas show

> how grahas (planets - people) rise/manifest in the material world.

> Planets represents persons, but people cannot see what's inside a

> person and what exactly a person is. They perceive based on how a

> person comes across. Grahas show true persons and graha arudhas

show

> how persons come across.

>

> Let us say Sun is the 9th lord in a chart. The position of Sun and

> influence on lagna shows the true nature of father and his

influence

> on the native. But the arudha of Sun shows how father's influence

is

> perceived by son (and perhaps others). The 9th lord (a planet)

shows

> how father truly is and his graha arudha shows how father

manifests

> in this world (i.e. perceived in the world). *Graha* arudha of 9th

> lord shows how father is perceived (OTOH, *bhava* arudha of 9th

house

> shows how guidance and protection of father is perceived).

>

> So the graha arudha of a planet showing father would show son's

> perception of father. What Vijay asked is the reverse. He asked

how

> to see in a native's chart how the native's father perceives

him/her.

>

> Lagna lord shows native. His graha arudha shows how the native

> manifests and how (s)he is perceived. The 9th lord shows father.

> Judge the position of lagna lord's graha arudha with respect to

the

> 9th lord to see how father perceives the native.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Om Jaya Jagannatha

> >

> > Dear Vijay & Visti,

> >

> > Pitri Pada will show how the world percieves Father.

> >

> > In my opinion, the chara karaka one should look at is the

> PitriKaraka, and then take its Arudha.

> >

> > As Narasimha stated that Chara Karakas indicate the role people

> play in our sustainanece. PitriKaraka will show the role father

plays

> in

>

> our sustainance.

> >

> > Now, he also mentioned that a planets arudha, shows the persons

> maya/perception.

> >

> > Thus putting the 2 together, the arudha of PitriKaraka in D12

will

> show the fathers impression of the native.

> >

> > Regards

> > -Narayan

>