Choice of year length and Ayanamsa (To Goel ji)

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DEAR Mr. Dhans,

The reference star of Lahiri's AYANAMSA  is Chitra( Spica 16)

Chitra Ayanamsa = Tropical Longitude of star Chitra - 180 deg.

Regards,

 G.K.GOEL

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Dhans <dhans_magnet

gkgoel1937

Thursday, 15 May, 2008 10:15:57 PM

Re: Choice of year length and Ayanamsa (To Goel ji)

 

 

Dear Goel ji,

 

Nice to read your points.  I am just a beginner in this science. I would like

to know about your choice of:

 

" Lahiri's Ayanamsa minus-57sec and year of 365.2524 "

 

will point to which house or nakshitra? When I read Chandra hari ji's theory,

his ayanamsa points to Moola nakshitra (conjunct point of vrickshika and

dhanur) and mooladhara. As per your method, I would like to where it points to.

Is it somewhere in rishaba?

 

Sorry if I have made wrong statements due to my ignorance. I wanted to know

this, because, I have a difference of opinion about which is the real

mooladhara. So just wanted to see if your method suits to it.

 

Thank you,

Dhanapal

 

 

 

 

Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

Dear Mr. Sreenadh and other fellow members,

Ex. Chart:-18-11- 1971,2.55AM, Trivandrum - Marriage on 24-2-2008

JH7.2 Citra Ayanamsa-23- 26-54.43 Lagna -Virgo , Navamsa Aries with retrograde

Saturn

Marriage took place in dasa of  Mer'Jup/ Sat/Jup/Mer/ (Jup-Sat)

Some specific features of the chart:

1. LLand 7L are conjoined

2.No planet in Angular houses

3. Six planets in Upchaya houses

4. Trine are occupied by Rahu and Saturn

5. Mars is placed in 6H ,in 5H from Moon ,and in 2H from AL

6. In D-9 , Mars ans VENUS BEING LLand 7L are in 10H IN Capricorn

with Mercury( this indicate  the some kind of failure in 1st marriage)

7Saturn and Mars are in exchange in D-9 , Mars being 7L.

8. Transit Jupiter in Libra and Natal Jupiter in Sag. Navamsa are aspecting

  Navamsa Lagna on the day of Marriage.

Dasa  Analysis:

Mer. is Lagna lord,Jup is 7L, Sat is in Navamsa lagna and in exchange with

Navamsa lagna lord Mars,

AS SUCH SATURN IS FULLY QUALIFIED TO GIVE MARRIAGE IN ITS SUB-SUB PERIOD.

4TH,5TH AND 6TH level dasa's are of Jup, Mer, and Jup respectively.

These dasa's are based on 360 deg. Solar year basis.

As I do not know the person , it may be a folly to discuss adverse feature in

this nativity.

Dear Mr. Sreenadh , this is the reason I say Lahiri's Ayanamsa minus-57sec and

year of 365.2524 give more reliable results.

I hasten to add  that I have no claims and does mean to offend any person's

beliefs or understanding.

Regards to all,

 

 G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

 

 

Sreenadh <sreesog >

ancient_indian_ astrology

Tuesday, 6 May, 2008 11:54:19 AM

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Choice of year length

 

 

Dear Neelam,

  Please check yourself before buying some arguments on face value, even if

provided by Chandra hari ji. Here is the actual values for your reference. (DOB:

18 Nov 1971; 2.55 AM; Marriage date: 2 Feb 2008). The Vimsottari Dasa-Antara

upto 5 levels using JHora for various Ayanamsa and year length combinations are

given below.

CH(L+44);365. 2425 days Me-Ra-Su-Ke- Ra-Ve Fails miserably

CH(L+44); 360 days Me-Ju-Ju-Ke- Ju-Ve Matches with the event. But none proposes

this combination.

CH(L+46); 365.2425 days Me-Ra-Su-Sa- Sa-Ma Fails miserably.

CH (L+46); 360 days Me-Ju-Ju-Me- Ve-Sa Matches with the event; Perfect

L+365.2425 days Ju-Ju-Sa-Su- Ma-Mo Almost there. But why Su, Ma and Mo? Where is

Ve?

L+360 days Me-Ju-Ke-Mo- Ju-Sa Not satisfactory. Why Ke and Mo? And why not Ve

present? 

 

  From the above table it is clear that the opinion expressed by Chandrahari

that the event took place in Me-Ju-Sa is wrong if we buy his argument on 44 more

than Lahari and 365.2425 days. As per the conditions 44 min more than Lahari and

365.2425 days, it would be only " Me-Ra-Su-Ke- Ra-Ve " which would fail as per

every normal logic for deriving the marriage timing.  

  As normal astrologers what would we expect, for something like marriage to

fulfill in a chart as per Vimsottari dasa? For me the simple and straight rule

would be - Involvement of 7th lord, lagna lord and Venus. If it is a love

marriage the 5th lord should be involved. The involvement of 2nd lord, 11th

lord, and any planet in its own Sign are also possibilities, even though

secondary.  As per this simple thumb rule, in the above chart, the planets I

would expect to involve are - Ju (7th lord), Me (Lagna lord), Ve (marriage

significator) , Sa (5th lord, since it is a love marriage). Mo (the 11th lord)

and Ke (planet placed in 11th) could be possibilities but only secondary.  And

I find only 2 sets of data in the above table that satisfies this

condition,  viz,

  1) CH (L+46); 360 days

  2) CH (L+44); 360 days.

  The third choice L + 365.2425 is almost there upto Paryantara level but not

beyond that. I discard CH(L+44); 360 days due to the following reasons -

   1) None is in support of such an argument   

   2) This is almost an exception, a rare case. When we consider numerous

charts this usually does not seems to be as convincing as the other combination

CH (L+46), 360 days. After contrasting L+44 with L+46, I feel more comfortable

with L+46 for all practical purposes.

  Thus I resort to my last and usual choice - L+46; 360 days. But I know that,

the people who use L+44 with 360 days and L with 365.2425 days would also be

" Almost there " .  

  Hope I am clear.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

Neelam gupta07 wrote:

>

> In fact Sreenadh ji. I agree with Chandra hari ji, Mer-Jup-Sat is perfect

> for giving marriage, a long overdue marriage finally performed after hassles

> and much delay.

>

> Saturn from 9H aspects Jupiter, the antardashanath, who is also the 7L of

> marriage and and 4L of domestic bliss, Venus for family and addition to

> family and hagya, 12L of marital pleasures and lagna lord and 10L sun. This

> yoga is also samsaptam. It couldn't have been a better timing. There is a

> perfect connection between MD-AD-PD lords. Mercury with 7L jupiter who

> aspects own house, both aspected by PD nath saturn, whose dispositor is with

> MD-AD lords. All this happening in 3H -- love marriage, opposition from

> relations, intercaste marriage, etc. The person himself might becoming wary

> of everything and wanting to renounce!

>

> Also, Saturn retrograde being 5L and 6L of sanchit and rinanubandhan in

> bhagyasthan, it should've given the native a delayed result of past

> connection only.

>

> Then it connects lagna and 7H in navamsh.

>

> From moon this Saturn is in Mangalya house but also bears the blemish

> of 8thlordship. It aspects 7L mars in 5H of love and emotions. There

> might have

> been a long and arduous emotional journey to get his lady love.

>

> Chandra Hari ji we have already started exploring the other possibilities.

> But with limited knowledge in hand the progress will be slow and so please

> bear with us and keep guiding us till we are able to form some firm opinion.

>

> Regards

>

> Neelam

>

 

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