Don't Believe The Hype: Reconsiderations Of Barack Obama's New Birthtime Part

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Don't Believe The Hype: Reconsiderations Of Barack Obama's " New "

Birthtime Part Two - Vedic Analysis

 

7:53 PM 05/19/2008 Mon

 

Having laid the groundwork for my argument that the " new " birthtime

for Barack Obama is highly suspect, even flatout false, I will now

turn to the Vedic astrological evidence supporting my contention.

Here I should like to note to those unfamiliar with my writings, that

I have, for nearly the past two years, worked intensely with a

rectification " test " time of mine which yields a 29 Gemini Asc using

the Tropical Zodiac. It has come through again and again with regard

to timing measures and captures the symbolism of his life very well.

But, because I could never be 100% certain of Obama's birthtime, I

have resisted offering a Vedic analysis of his chart.

 

Until now. Fate it would seem, has forced my hand.

 

For earlier today, as I was doing a bit of research in preparation

for these essays, I ran accross Ms. Joni Patry's (the source of

the " new " birthtime for Obama) Vedic analysis of his chart. Of

course, per the Sidereal Zodiac, she uses a Capricorn Asc for Obama,

placing both Jupiter and Saturn in the 1st house, with the Sun and

Mercury in the 7th. And while she finally concludes that should Obama

be the nominee of the Democratic Party, he will loose against

Republican nominee Sen. John McCain - and while I agree with her that

it is my contention that McCain is the likely winner, at least at

this point - I most vociferously disagree with her astrological

reasoning for Obama, on the basis that the birthtime she uses yields

a chart that does not comport in the least with what we know about

Obama's life.

 

So, as I layout my case now, please let me say that a fundamental

premise of astrology, any kind of astrology, is simply this: if the

planets don't fit, you must aquit. Period. If the chart doesn't match

the reality of the native, then you can be pretty certain that you

have the wrong chart. This is the core reasoning behind Horary in the

Western tradition, and as far as Vedic goes, with its long and strong

reputation for getting pinpoint accuracy in predictions, the same

thing goes.

 

Here is the timed data, again, based on my rectification tests, for

Barack Obama:

 

Aug 4 1961 3AM AHST (NOTE: I had previously listed the time as 4AM

and used daylight savings time; I have since learned that Hawaii does

not and has not used DST for many, many years. It was NOT in effect

at the time Obama was born. My bad.) Honolulu HI; Lahiri 7 Gem 41;

Mrigshira, rising Naksatra.

 

I begin.

 

In the book Light on Life, a must-have introductory, yet

comprehensive, text on Vedic astrology, Hart Defouw offers the chart

of slain Prime Minister Indira Ghandi, whose birthtime still is a

source of great debate and controversy among astrologers in India to

this day. Defouw shows how a skillful use of the houses and graha

yogas (planetary combinations, or formulas, not unlike midpoints

etc.) can aid the astrologer in coming to the right conclusion in the

rectification process. The reader is kindly asked to compare and

contrast my analysis of Obama using a Gemini Asc and Ms. Patry's

using a Capricorn Asc, and see for themselves.

 

With regard to Obama, let's quickly note some very basic, yet highly

signficant facts about his life:

 

1. He is bi-racial; his mother is White, his father is Black; his mom

from Kansas, his dad from Kenya.

 

2. He is the author of two highly successful, bestselling books, the

source of his wealth according to widely published reports. One of

his books is an autobiography which at the center, are the longings

for his father; the other takes its title from the only father figure

he's ever known, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright's sermons.

 

3. He came out of nowhere to become a serious Presidential candidate,

at this point all but certain to be the Democratic nominee.

 

4. He has two children, both girls; his marriage to Michelle Robinson

Obama is stable and without scandal or incident.

 

5. Both his parents died at relatively young ages, and when Obama was

young himself. His mom died when he was in his early 30s; his dad

died while he was still a boy.

 

6. Both parents remarried; his mom once (two marriages), his dad at

least four times.

 

7. Obama has attended among the best schools IN THE WORLD, from a

very early age. He is the first African American ever to be on the

Harvard Law Review.

 

8. A major scandal erupted over the nature of the church Obama

attended, to which he was first forced to address in the form of

a " race speech " in Mar 2008, only to come back to address the

situation again a month later.

 

OK. I think we have enough bare-bones info on Obama to begin an

astrological examination.

 

First, the Asc - Gemini is the perfect fit - the bi-racial identity,

the " two faces " he seems to show the public, especially in light of

the Rev. Wright scandal (note 9th lord Saturn in the 8th house of

scandal! More in a sec), the book and speech writing, the education

and even his *two* daughters, when you take into account Venus, as

5th lord, sits in the Gemini Asc. Its all there. Not so for Capricorn

rising.

 

This Asc position makes even more sense when one considers Mercury,

the Asc Lord, is placed in the 2nd house, long known in Jyotishical

circles as a house of classical learning. It forms a Budhaditya Yoga

with the Sun, amplifying his innate intelligence. Mercury rules the

4th house of formal educational degrees; Venus, as the 5th lord of

intelligence and bookwriting (along with the 2nd house!), again is in

the Asc. Obama has studied at Occidental College, Columbia and

Harvard Universities, and holds a degree in Constitutional Law.

 

For the parents, we would want to see the 4th and 9th houses, that

which represent the mother and father, respectively. Here we can

easily see what the problems were. As Mercury is both Lagnesh and 4th

lord, it is right to take the karaka, or universal significator, or

the mother and use that planet instead of Mercury, leaving it to

represent Obama alone (we will employ this method yet again in

another key area of Obama's life; stay tuned). The Moon represents

the mother in all horoscopes, and in this one we can clearly see that

it is damaged by being placed in the 12th house, arguably the

singleworst place to be by house for the Moon. Among other things,

Obama's mother spent much of her life away from the land/country of

her birth, living abroad and mainly in and around Indonesia, where

she would meet her second husband and give birth to a second child.

The 12 house represents foreign lands. The 12th house also represents

sorrow, misery and suffering, even death. But the Moon's exalted!

Shouldn't that account for something? Well, not a lot - that's

because the Moon itself has just entered its Sign, meaning that its

still a beat weak because it's at a junction point between two Signs;

this is known as Rasi Sandhi. One thing that I always remind people

of, is that an exalted planet may not be all its cracked up to be;

one must make a careful inspection of the houses and other planets

involved before proclaiming all the promised benefits of such a

planet. However, we can tell that Obama was indeed very close to his

mother, as Moon Sign Lord Venus is placed in the Asc and very close

to the rising degree.

 

As for father, things don't look so well either - Not only does the

9th lord, Saturn, sits placed in the 8th house - one of the worst

houses for a Vedic chart - but Ketu, another first rate malefic,

actually sits in the 9th. This is a perfect symbolism for the father,

Barack Obama Sr., a man who had many wives (at least two of whom were

White - note Rahu in the 7th from the 9th, i.e., the 3rd house), who

had a drinking problem, and who eventually died in an automobile

crash which severed his legs, and whom Obama the Younger only met

ONCE in his entire life! ALL of the themes of the Nodes - Rahu and

Ketu - come alive in this chart using the Gemini Asc insofar as the

parents are concerned. Saturn is closely conjunct Jupiter; although

Saturn is dignified, Jupiter is not, and placed in the radical 8th

house will suggest that Obama the Elder may do things he's not too

proud of later. Among them were his taking wives unbeknownst to his

current ones. The 8th house has long been known as that of

disgraceful acts. Jupiter represents one's morality and ethics. Both

are heavily involved here in the Gemini chart option. This position

does not bode well for the father's health and longevity, as the 8th

house is the 12th from the 9th. Loss.

 

If we no consider the 7th houses away from the 4th (radical 10th) and

9th (radical 3rd) and keep in mind what Parasara said about

combinations for multiple spouses, it is easy to see using the Gemini

rising chart how Obama's parents could remarry so frequently.

Parasara says, that if the 7th lord is conjunct or aspected by a

benefic, there will be many spouses; the same will be true if the 7th

lord is exalted.

 

Looking at the 7th house from the 4th, as note that Jupiter is

aspected by the " multiple-minded " planet Mercury. For the 9th, we can

see that the 7th lord is conjunct this same Mercury, and is now

aspected by Jupiter to boot. Hence we see the multiple marriages.

 

What about Obama's marriage? Surely the Gemini rising chart must give

some clues there, right? And indeed it does - Jupiter rules the 7th

and is aspected by Mercury, This not only joins the 1st and 7th

houses together by rulership, but also brings in some

added " benefits " in the form of additional yogas, namely Satkalatra

and Bahu Stree, both of whom are highly favorable for happiness in

marriage. Also, note Venus' aspect on the 7th house as well, and

Venus is Darakaraka (planet of the spouse) in a man's chart.

 

Lastly, before we move on to Dasas, let's consider Obama's meteoric

rise to fame as a politician and serious contender for the White

House. To be able to do something like that must indicate some

powerful Raj Yogas, or " king making " combinations, yes? And we find

them in this map, in this way:

 

As mentioned many times before, Venus is the 5th lord of political

issues, and sits closely conjunct the Geminis Asc point; this

accounts for his huge popularity.

 

Lagnesh Mercury gets the full aspect of Jupiter and Saturn, who both

form a Dharma Karma Adipati Yoga, as these planets rule the 10th and

9th houses respectively. Jupiter is no doubt fallen, but

Saturn " lifts " him up somewhat by himself being in his own Sign to

act.

 

Note how this combination - Jupiter and Saturn - become strong again

in the Chandra Lagna, or Moon Ascendant chart, now sitting in the 9th

from the Moon.

 

And note how strong the Navamsa chart is, lifting the qualities of

Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu! That is very rare to see in

Jyotish, a Navamsa that strong. And the exalted Nodes, sitting in the

1-7 house axis in this chart, guarantees that Obama will not only

mesmerize the mass media and public at large, but that he will also

be " the race candidate " . Indeed, he has. On all fronts.

 

Let us now consider the Dasa scheme of some of the key events in his

life. Obama was born at the very end of Mars Dasa, not a good sign

for the father sticking around, as Mars lies in the 7th from 9th.

Obama himself reports that his father left him and his mother at the

age of two - just as Rahu Dasa was getting off the ground (beginning

Sep 1961). Obama Sr. would divorce Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, in

1963. Rahu was running both its major and sub periods at this time -

and please note again, that the 7th house from the 9th is activated,

as both Mars and Rahu are placed there. Both Mars and Rahu represent

severing, especially when placed in a Sign like Leo, ruled by the

malefic Sun.

 

Now, if we consider Obama's mother's second marriage, which ran from

1966 or so, till about 1980, we can clearly track the events by way

of the Dasas operating in Obama's chart at that time. For the earlier

period, we can see that Saturn sub period in the Dasa of Rahu was

running. Saturn is conjunct Jupiter, who is 7th lord from the 4th

house of mother in Obama's chart per Gemini rising. For the divorice

from the second hubbie, we can see that Jupiter Dasa was just

beginning. Keep in mind please, that Jupiter is not well placed in

the Rasi, or birthchart, for Obama.

 

Obama's father died in 1982, right in the midst of Jupiter-Saturn Dasa

(!); Obama's mother died in Nov 1995, right after the onset of Saturn

Dasa began. Please note that, from the 9th, Jupiter and Saturn are in

the 12th from the 9th, aspect the 10th which is 2nd from the 9th and

aspect the 7th lord - all Marakas. In the case of the mother, please

note that Saturn aspects the 7th from the 4th, is conjunct the 7th

house (from the 4th) lord, and finally aspects the 2nd house from the

4th as well (radical 5th).

 

It was during the latter time, that Obama began to get interested in

politics. In Jyotisha, there are two major planets that speak to

political aims; one is the Sun, and the other is Saturn. And in

Obama's case, both impact strongly on his Lagnesh Mercury.

 

Obama won his US Senate seat in the largest margin ever in Illinois

state history, some 70% of the vote. Saturn-Venus was running at the

time; please note how both these planets are friends and rule trinal

houses for the Senator, per the Gemini rising chart.

 

It would be under this same combination that Obama would give his

riveting address at the Democratic Convention at Boston in 2004. This

was when he reached national prominence.

 

He then decided to run for the Presidency with the Moon running its

sub period in early 2007; in Mar 2008, the Rev. Wright scandal broke,

as Mars sub period in Saturn Dasa began. Please note two very

important things here - Mars sits 8 houses away from Saturn, Bhavat

Bhavam; and that when two natural malefics run their major and minor

periods at the same time, lookout! We can also add that Mars is an

enemy to Mercury. Saturn rules the 9th house of preachers, churches

and father figures. That Obama would be forced to cut all ties with

Wright only a month after his famed " race speech " is again another

testimony of both the Dasa scheme at work, and as well, the Gemini

rising chart.

 

And that brings us to the present time, with both these planets still

very much in operation, to last until the Spring of 2009. With both

Mars and Saturn aspecting Obama's Piscean 10th house, and with the

10th lord debilitated in the 8th house, it is hard to see eventual

victory for him; in this I would agree with Ms. Patry. But the point

remains, that until we can actually see a birth record that confirms

that which she told the world the other night at Denver, I then

maintain that the evidence I have offered in this essay is every bit

as valid as anything she or anyone else has said. As I've said

earlier, if the Planets don't fit, you must aquit!

 

Comment and reply, invited.

 

Salaam

Mu