Possessed by evil spirits? Your Views on D-60 Too, Please!

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O'Narasimha!

 

Captivating analysis, indeed! Only the spiritually advanced can pen

their thoughts on these lines.

 

How about your analysis of the D-60 chart, where Rahu and Ketu are in

Vamsa-kshaya Amsa, and Moon in Pureeshaka Amsa? No less than SIX

planets, excluding Sat and Mer, aspect Exalted Moon in marana sthana

here.

 

Your views as to why you chose to ignore this, please -is it because

you are unsure of the chart's accuracy?

 

MAY GOD BLESS THE chart's native and Cure this ill forever!

 

Venkat

 

 

vedic astrology , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao "

<pvr wrote:

>

> Namaste Virendra,

>

> I see no danger to life at this time. However, as I said, I do

suspect a spirit is involved and I do believe the situation is quite

serious.

>

> Luckily, Ketu-Rahu antardasa finished in June 2008. Now, Ketu-

Jupiter is running. There is some chance of a good help and remedy to

the problem. That gives me SOME hope.

>

> Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think a priest can help. I have seen

many priests in my life, but I have met only a handful who can

actually make a true difference. These days, people are better off

doing the best job they themselves can do, instead of relying on a

priest or a pandit.

>

> Most priests have neither the jaagrut shakti nor the devotion

needed. Mantras work either because an individual with jaagrut shakti

quickly taps the shakti of the mantra or because the devotion slowly

taps the shakti of the mantra. The first approach is rare these days.

For the second approach, there is no difference between a priest and

a layman! In fact, most priests are unlikely to have the same focus

of mind on the goal and the same level of compassion for the

suffering person as the relatives and close people. If a person

without jaagrut shakti has to awaken a mantra for a specific person's

benefit, there has to be a deep compassion for the suffering of the

person. I honestly feel that laymen can achieve that better than

priests, if they manage to sit down for hours. Things were different

in the old days, when priests did tremendous penance and were a

walking bundle of energy. In the changed situation of this age, my

advice is always for people to do remedies themselves.

>

> That is my sincere advice. If the family or close relatives/friends

cannot do anything, well, I guess then things are tough.

>

> I understand that things are difficult for the family and sitting

for meditation for 4 hours everyday is tough. I know another case of

spirit possession. The lady was possessed for almost 10 years!! Her

family suffered so much during that time. At the end, her family was

advised to recite Chandipath and do a homam everyday. They actually

did it, despite the tremendous hardships. The lady is fine now.

>

> Kumaara Ganapathi mantra is for a form of Ganapathi formed with the

energy of Kumara/Kartikeya/Subrahmanya (warrior god, army commander

of gods). It is effective in removing the trouble from spirits. I am

giving the mantra in iTrans transliteration format below. If you cut

and paste in iTranslator software from Omkaranand Ashram, you can see

it in Devanagari script.

>

> --------- Begin ---------

> OM gaM kumaara gaNapataye, OM namaH shUrapadma naasha kaaraNaaya

sarvashakti dharaaya sarpa yaGYopavItanaaya mahaa pracaNDa

krodhanaaya rakta kukShi dharaaya asura koTi saMhaara kaaraNaaya

akhaNDa maNDalaaya devataarcita paada padmaaya shaakinii raakinii

laakinii haakinii Daakinii kuuShmaaNDa bhuuta vetaaLa paishaaca

brahma raakShasa duShTa grahaan naashaya naashaya, bhaarata likhita

lekhinii karaaya apasmaara grahaan nivaaraya nivaaraya mardaya

mardaya, guhaagrajaaya gajaasura saMharaNaaya garjita bhuuta karaaya

sakala bhuuta preta pishaaca brahma raakShasaan shuulena aakR^intaya

aakR^intaya chhedaya chhedaya maaraya maaraya, mahaagaNapataye

umaakumaaraaya huM phaT bandha bandha DhaM glaaM glauM gaM gaNapataye

swaahaa

> --------- End ---------

>

> Another version is

>

> OM hriiM glauM gaM gaNapataye gaM glauM hriiM

>

> Read whichever is convenient, but for 4 hours everyday. If that is

tough, do it atleast for 2 hours.

>

> > I consider attributing the cause of problem to badhaka and

Marankaraka

> > concepts as stretching the logic too far. Ketu as a malefic is

not bad in

> > the 11th and can't cause such grave threats in the 9th in Navamsa

aspected

> > only by Jupitor.

>

> Dear Praveen, Ketu in 11th is good, but not if 11th is badhaka

sthana and there are other weaknesses. Whatever house he occupies in

navamsa, Ketu is the badhaka lord in navamsa too! He is associated

with badhaka sthana in rasi, navamsa and trimsamsa!

>

> What is stretching logic depends on one's understanding of what the

basics are. In the charts I have seen with spirit problems, both

nodes and badhaka sthana are always involved. To MY mind, attributing

this result somehow to Jupiter is stretching logic, while Ketu in

badhaka sthana with Gulika and in mrityu bhaga is the perfect, clear

and crisp logic. What is " compact " to me looks " stretched " to you and

what is compact to you looks stretched to me. Obviously, our

understanding of the FUNDAMENTALS is different. :-)

>

> Best regards,

> Narasimha

>

> Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> Spirituality:

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

>

>

> , " Virendra Kumar "

<jumanji1957@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Narasimha Ji

> > Pranaams. I am completely overwhelmed by your analysis. Yes, she

does have a

> > curse, but her current condition is THAT of a possessed

individual!

> >

> > I did consider Moon's (AK) mrityu bhaga as well as MKS. In fact I

was

> > reading Willa's 2006 west coast lecture on Saturn - the root of

disease when

> > this case landed up. 4th house from Moon is occupied by Ketu - by

Willa's

> > lecture 4th house from moon is body's healing abilities. Ketu may

give

> > problems from unknown sources - like spirits and ghosts! Yes, I

did consider

> > Ketu's proximity with Gulika and Ketu's mrityu bjaga center -

however I DID

> > NOT consider changing the Vimsottari Dasa to the Kshema star -

which gives

> > ruling dasa period of Ketu itself! I also considered Rahu's

transit position

> > in her natal 4th house where AL resides.

> >

> > The first query from her brother-in-law was - " will she survive? "

Her own

> > family have almost given up hopes and they are now planning to

leave her at

> > an asylum - in the company of strangers! I have on my own

persuaded them to

> > wait for a week before taking any steps and this is where I

posted this case

> > across lists!

> >

> > Please accept my deepest gratitude for sparing your valuable time

in

> > analyzing her chart and suggesting a remedy! Many thanks for the

remedy! My

> > query -

> >

> > * Can a priest chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra? - am asking this

because the

> > family cannot be expected to do it in present circumstances!

> > * Is the presence of the lady required during this chanting?

> > * Where can I download Kumaara Ganapathi Mantra? If your kind

self or anyone

> > from this list knows an authentic Pundit in Mumbai who can do the

needful, I

> > can persuade the family to approach him!

> >

> > Please accept my humble pranaams.

> >

> > Virendra

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr@>wrote:

> >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > I see that there is a very very serious problem here.

> > >

> > > Jupiter having the aspect of Saturn, Mars and Rahu shows a

Brahmana shaapa

> > > (a learned man's curse) from previous life. But that may not be

the main

> > > problem and the direct cause of current affliction.

> > >

> > > IMHO, the main problem is Ketu being in badhaka sthana within a

couple of

> > > degrees from Gulika. He is the 2nd lord and a maraka too. More

importantly,

> > > he is in mrityu bhaga, i.e. within the dangerous degree of Leo

for him. Each

> > > planet has a dangerous trimsamsa (one degree) in each sign.

JHora shows

> > > them.

> > >

> > > Though people may be tempted to take Vimsottari dasa from Moon

as usual and

> > > say that Jupiter dasa is running now, I will differ. Despite

being exalted,

> > > Moon is in the 8th house in marana karaka sthana. He is also in

his mrityu

> > > bhaga (dangerous degree for him in that sign). Such a weak Moon

is in my

> > > judgment unqualified to start the dasas. We can initiate

Vimsottari dasa

> > > from kshema tara Pushyami, which has 5 planets in kendra from

it.

> > >

> > > Based on kshema Vimsottari dasa (JHora gives it), she is

running Ketu

> > > mahadasa from 2004 to 2011.

> > >

> > > Being a maraka, being in badhaka sthana, being in an Adhisatru

sthana,

> > > being in mrityu bhaga and being close to Gulika, Ketu is quite

malefic. Even

> > > in D-30, Ketu is again in badhaka sthana with the badhaka lord

Mercury.

> > > Affliction of Mercury by nodes in D-30 shows affliction to

buddhi. Most

> > > psychological disorder charts show malefic affliction to Moon

or Mercury in

> > > D-30.

> > >

> > > Planets in badhaka sthana, especially Ketu, give diseases that

are very

> > > difficult to diagnose and often involve supernatural causes. It

could very

> > > well be a spirit problem. I think doctors are not of much use.

The situation

> > > is quite bad an very very difficult to fix with easy remedies.

Desperate

> > > situations call for desperate measures.

> > >

> > > The best would be to chant Kumaara Ganapathi mantra. If

somebody can chant

> > > Kumaara Ganapathi mantra for 4 hours everyday for 40 days, it

may be able to

> > > solve her problem. The rule is to sit down in one place with a

straight back

> > > and still body and say mantra mentally. If legs ache, it is ok

to get up

> > > once every 30-60 min, move for a minute or so and sit down

again.

> > >

> > > Serious problems require serious remedies and there are no

magical

> > > push-button kind of solutions.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > > -------------------------------

--

> > > Do a Short Homam Yourself: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam

> > > Do Pitri Tarpanas Yourself:

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/tarpana

> > > Spirituality:

> > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > -------------------------------

--

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Dev Kumar " <jumanji1957@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I have just come across a case, the lady in question is

married. She is

> > > > exhibiting symptoms of a person possessed by evil spirits! Am

mentioning

> > > > birth details for Gurujan's and learned astrologers to

suggest remedy for

> > > > the concerned lady. She is the sister-in-law of one of my

close friends.

> > > >

> > > > Birth Details:

> > > >

> > > > January 19, 1970

> > > >

> > > > Time: 1:20:00

> > > >

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > >

> > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 19 N 07' 00 "

> > > >

> > > > Andheri, India

> > > >

> > > > The lady is married and her symptoms were triggered with the

birth of her

> > > > second daughter. Since then she uses abusive language to the

point of

> > > > threatening neighbors, relatives - all and sundry. She is in

the habit of

> > > > leaving her house and wandering at all sorts of places,

including railway

> > > > platforms, beaches - each time the police have traced her and

brought her

> > > to

> > > > her husband's house. Her husband has disowned her and now she

is staying

> > > > with her brother. Since her trouble began her relations have

tried all

> > > sorts

> > > > of treatments, including soliciting help from witch doctors

and

> > > soothsayers.

> > > > She is currently on Allopathic treatment and her brothers are

now

> > > > considering shifting her to a mental asylum - all in the

interest of

> > > > bringing peace in their lives!

> > > >

> > > > Physically the lady complains of tumor in her abdomen and

chest! She is

> > > in

> > > > the habit of mumbling and then mouthing foul language - if

asked, she

> > > says a

> > > > Devi is encouraging her to do so!

> > > >

> > > > I humbly approach all learned astrologers and Gurujan's to

study the case

> > > > and suggest remedy if possible - which can bring relief to

the entire

> > > > family!

> > > >

> > > > Please accept my humble pranaams!

> > > >

> > > > Virendra

>

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