Efficacy of remedies

August 11, 2008

Dear Venkatachala Pathi ji,

Sincere thanks for your insightful postings. Reading your postings is a learning

experience.

On your observations on generally prescribed remedies: without getting too much

into the philosophical aspects such as " influencing God " or rationalizations

such as " psychological cures " , I have a humble question. I presume most of Hindu

astrology as it is practiced today is based on great works by sage Parashara,

Jaimini and others of yore. I understand that most of these great works have

astrological principles along with prescriptive remedies. When one believes in

the principles and could correlate real life situations to the principles, one

would also tend to give credence to the remedies. I would appreciate your

comments.

The question of remedies for non-Hindus is really interesting. The Hindu

astrology draws significantly from the Karma theory, concepts of

aatma/reincarnation and is tightly coupled with a whole bunch of beliefs,

values, dieties, etc. So a person with no connection to any of these starts

performing japa of some mantra with no clue about the presiding deity, would

that be of any use at all? This may be a topic suitable for research.

Warm regards,

SNA

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

Re: [vedic astrology] Response requested from Pathi Ji

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Cc: " umeshrajesh72 " <umeshrajesh72

Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:59 AM

Dear Rajesh ji:

Thank you for your complements on my article : Rahu - Ketu.

I see lot of postings by eminent astrologers in this group giving many

'remedies' to all, when they give 'readings of ' Birth Chart. They may be

correct. Perhaps many would have benefited.

In my last 46 years in the field, none of my clients had ever succeeded to wade

through the decided results from authentic astrological readings as per the

ancient and developed/modern theorems and corollaries in this science.. My

contention is, these prayers and other 'mental approaches' are mere

psychological 'cures' for the movement. The Astrologer will get into the

'crowd' and get 'lost' while the persons 'affected ' will not be able to claim

on him for no improvement in 'results', as they could get under 'carpet' saying

the time of birth or data's must be wrong or you have NOT done the suggested

'rituals' correctly. I differ from them, as along as they 'practice';

Astrology. Astrology, lights your path and helps you to mentally prepare to

meet the 'inferences' NOT 'cure' through 'methods'. If methods can 'cure' then

you do not have to know from Birth charts. It is like a father saying that his

son will pass the exam for he had already

taken care of the examiner! In other words, one 'could' possibly 'bribe' God -

after knowing what will happen under astrological rules in his chart - and

attempt to change his 'destiny'. I do not believe in this. All my clients know

this. Then there will be no deaths. Either you believe in Astrological

readings or believe in payers to change destiny. Either you believe the Doctor

or you believe the compounder of Pharmacy!!!

I see clients from all religion in all parts of world, and nothing less than 100

to 150 persons mail me per day. I travel country after country in last 19

years. To find remedies, what will I tell them when they are not Hindus. The

planets are effecting the refracted rays from Sun to all, and effects attributed

results to such mix of radiations, while creating metabolism on individuals,

(wherever they are) are same as per 'readings'. That is why we look to the

place of birth before pronouncing the results from a Birth Chart.

I think I had said enough. I am sorry, I am unable to fall in line with some,

to recommend 'remedies'.

Belief in God is a must for every individual, in any religion, in as much as you

believe in your Mother or Father or Guru. But I do not believe that GOD could

easily be 'influenced' to change HIS decision. Then He would loose the title of

'Omnipotent' .

I do not intend to hurt anyone at all.

My regards to all, along with respects to their believes.

Blessings.

A.V.Pathi,

( Private readings are chargeable. Please contact me in ID kountinya29@

gmail.com)

umeshrajesh72 <umeshrajesh72@ .co. in>

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 2:41:11 AM

[vedic astrology] Response requested from Pathi Ji

Sometime ago there was a post from Mr venkatachala Pathi ji about

the effect of Rahu and ketu. To be very honest the statements he

made were precise and up to the mark atleast in my case. The sad

part about that post was there was no solution or remedies which

were suggested. I would appreciate if pathi ji gives some solutions

in such posts.

I have Rahu and Moon conjoint in capricon in my 4th house and

mercury and ketu in my 10th house. I am libra ascendant and my rashi

is makara rashi. I have Jupiter retrograde in the 3rd house (sag)

and saturn in the 8th house, Venus in the 9th Mercury and ketu in

the 10th and sun and Mars in the 11th.

Is there any remedy to ensure that I make my mind strong and dont

get too emotional and Obsessive. I am currently in Rahu mahadasha

and Moon Bhukthi.

Regards

Rajesh

August 11, 2008

Dear SNA,

You are correct when you quote " I presume most of Hindu astrology as it is

practiced today is based on great works by sage Parashara, Jaimini and others

of yore. I understand that most of these great works have astrological

principles along with prescriptive remedies. " The sickness listed then by them

are out dated when diagnoised in detail, except to areas said by them under

'Kalapurusha' rules. Kalapursha rules are eternal and fundamental, while in

years it does not restrict expansion within these rules. We did not have

Neptune, Uranus and Pluto defined by those sages. Later authors had included

these 'Planets' and identified their 'functions' also more recently. Medical

cures changes. The planetary interpretations by various authors changes. Then,

we still continue to say that prescribed rituals will cure the sickness.

To be frank with you, I am a strong believer of Hindu religious codes and I

think I had gone to many segments in depth,- name it- for great study under

great scholars. All these are to be experimented to get convinced by one as he

follows them. In many cases I could not get convinced. When you take a dip in

Ganges and claim that you are completely 'pure' still I am sure you are not.

Why? Inside your body you till carry the polluted and uncleaned 'stuff', could

not be removed and sanctified. So we say we are pure, while we carry 'impure'

stuff in us. A man is listed pious, while he has all the bad social order

motivated elements in his mind and could act any time. So from that day he will

not be pious.

Similarly, I have wall full of Gods. Which God will cure my sickness. You

recommend one method and religious act. How one could be sure about that

recommendation. But a sickness cannot wait. Then the other alternative is look

for an efficient doctor - no matter what religion he believes -with experience

and knowledge to attend to that sickness, while the person pray to God to help

him to cure the sickness.

I am subject to correction and many would draw swords to chop my head. I

believe in what I had reasoned out and I do not attempt to bring others into my

line of thinking. In other words, I do not 'impose' these on others. I

practice Astrology with fervor and dedication to the principles, except

suggesting remedies.

A.V.Pathi,

Sn Ap <paaschatya

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Monday, August 11, 2008 3:05:01 PM

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