Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Dear Nathani ji  Considering 6-45 am on 11-Aug-1943 New Delhi, one gets Asc Leo at Makha star. The time of birth reported in Mr. KN Rao's articles that it is 5-00 am. Mr. Rao said at that time was Musharaff is running Mars dasha. Mars is placed in house of 10th profession dignity, success, etc. bringing him glory.  Mr. Rao had also said that at the onset of Rahu dasha, he will be dethroned. Rahu is in Mercury star.  The Asc taken by Mr. Rao was Cancer, after careful considerations of various life events. If you see Rahu is in Mercury star, who is lord of 12 (loss). Mercury is in Leo gets the aspect of 8th lord Saturn. 8th is negation to Kingdom. Now transit Mercury and Saturn are also conjoined in Leo.  Your comments are welcome.  Rgds MK Viswanath --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 Re: [vedic astrology] Re: President Musharraf Resigning vedic astrology Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 11:39 AM Dear Imran I hv gone through the zip files but his name does not appers in the list. Can u e mail me on my personal id pvtly, as i hv his dob as 11.8.43 6.45 am Is is right???  With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry) Nathani Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) M. Imran <astroimran > vedic astrology Monday, 18 August, 2008 8:49:16 PM [vedic astrology] Re: President Musharraf Resigning Dear Haresh Nathani, For birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf, please see the write-up " President Musharraf Resigning.pdf " uploaded at file section. http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ files/ By the way, I have been predicting, his ups and down, for last 6 years, however not for public, but for a limited circle his confidants. Even in Pakistan, only afew (non-professional) astrologers know his correct date and time of birt. Regards, M. Imran Karachi vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Imran > Can u give birth dtld of Pres Musharaf > >  > With Warm Regards > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor > Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India) > > > > > M. Imran <astroimran@ ....> > vedic astrology; sohamsa@ .com > Sunday, 17 August, 2008 2:26:50 AM > [vedic astrology] President Musharraf Resigning President > Musharraf Resigning > >  > > > >  > > It is a > matter of few days or more. President General (Rtd.) Pervez Musharraf has no > choice but to abdicate or face the impeachment. Now nobody left in Pakistan who wishes > to see him in the presidential office, including his old stalwarts in political > circle and minions in army. The sun of his pomp and power, that had already > eclipsed by judicial crises and demise of Benazir Bhutto last year, is about to > set now. > >  > > Born in > Scorpio lagna on Tuesday with lagnesh in 10th, Pervez Musharraf opened his eyes > in a non-martial family of old Delhi, > but it is destined for him to fight and believe that might is right. Mars, the > lord of lagna also owns 6th house and aspects the langa from 10th- Leo, whereas Saturn, > the lord of 3rd and dispositor of Ketu aspects the lagna simultaneously. Consequently, > he has lived a life of combatant: not only as commando or army chief, bur also as > chief executive of the country, as president and as politician. He tried to resolve > every problem �� " internal or external �� " with might. He led the Kargil War > against India, he thrown out Nawaz government, he became a front ally of USA in > War-on-Terror, he crushed the religious forces elements, he fought against > Baloch insurgents, he hit the Taliban of tribal areas, he kicked out the Chief > Justice, he handled the lawyers’ movement by force; in short, at every second > step he confronted opponents and enemies. But force can not be the panacea for > all trouble. And it is difficult perhaps impossible for a Martian soul to understand > this. > >  > > It was the beginning > of Mars dasa (December 2001) when the goddess of fortune smiled upon him. However, > he already got the power through coup d'état on October 12, 1999 in Moon-Ketu. Note > that Moon constitutes Rajayoga with Sun in two ways. Firstly association of > lord of 9th and 10th in trikona while secondly as association of Atma Karaka > (Sun) and Pitru Karaka (Moon) caused aforesaid yoga, which is further fortified > by the tie of Gati Lagna (GL).. But until 9/11, he was perceived as an unpopular > dictator, nationally and internally. It was the parallel dawn of his Mars > period and War-on-Terror that proved a blessing in disguise for him. He became > one of the five most influential leaders of the world. International community forgot > that he is a dictator and depicted him as a rescuer against terrorism. Why? > Just look at the dasa lord Mars again from Arudha Lagna (AL); being lord of > 10th (Aquarius) it is powerfully disposed in 7th to the AL that resulted in Rajayoga. Mars �� " the most > robust planet in his nativity attains the rank of Yoga Karaka from Chandra and > Surya Lagnas, and simultaneously owning the Janm Lagna. In navamasa, nonetheless > it is debilitated but abodes in dharmamsa (i.e. in Cancer amsa for Scorpio > lagna). In dasamsa, Mars is again forming a powerful Rajayoga; being D10 lord it > is occupied in 9th-Sagittarius with 9th lord and getting full aspect of Saturn. > So it should not be a matter of wonder that one attains the acme of power in > the presence of such a forceful and pregnant dasa lord. > >  > > But the > throne, he got, was full of thorns (or say full of ember).. During his 9-year > regime, the country, however progressed economically (especially from > 2002-2006), but suffered socially and politically on account of War- on-Terror > and internal conflicts. Looking astrologically, Mars is full of might and > powerfully disposed in kendara and forming Rajayoga. But it is not flawless. Apart > from owning one of trishdai bhavas (3rd, 6th, 11th), Mars is closely conjunct > with Rahu, not only in Rasi but also in drekkhana, navamsa, dasama and other > vargas. It is usually observed that dasa of a retrograde yogakaraka or a > yogakaraka associated with retrograde planet or node yields fall and decline before > the end of that very dasa.. That is, it snatches what it gave at the start of > dasa. And this is what happened with Pervez Musharraf. > >  > > If the > mahadasa of Mars is divided into three phases (each of three sub- periods) then > last three antardasas are Mars-Venus, Mars-Sun and Mars-Moon. Amongst them > Mars-Venus proved most evil. The antar of Venus in Mars mahadasa, quaked his seat > and maligned his name and fame. It was Friday March 12, 2007, when he committed > the first major blunder of sacking the Chief Justice of Pakistan. Soon after > this faux pas, lawyers’ community began movement against him. But on July > 20, 2007, Supreme Court’s verdict went against Pervez Musharraf and the > suspended Chief Justice was reinstated. It was the very July of 2007 when he had > to pocket the severe criticism of media and civil society on Operation Silence > at Red Mosque Islamabad. It is to be noted that in July-August 2007, transit > nodal axis were moving exactly over radical nodal axis (Rahu-Ketu). Thereafter > he has been committing mistake over mistake. On November 3, 2007, he declared emergency > in the country, banned the media and expelled the entire panel of undesirable > judges, including Chief Justice. But after few weeks, he gave up the office of > Chief of Army Staff on November 28, 2007. Another unfortunate event during > Mar-Ven was the assassination of Benazir Bhutto on December 27, 2007 that made > him none less than a villain in the eyes of masses. Hence as a whole, year 2007 > proved a pitfall for him. And after doffing off the military uniform he became an > executive only in name. Definitely it is the cumulative of myriad malefic factors > (including radical and annual charts of Pakistan); but Mars-Venus may put top > of the list. > >  > > At the > beginning of his Venus antar, the scribe wrote: “Venus antar (November 2006 to > January 2008) in Mars mahadasha would prove fatal. Prima facie it is next to > impossible as Venus is placed in bhagyasthan with bhagesh (Moon), but in > reality it has many baneful factors. Venus is not only lord of 7th and 12th houses > but also owns evil Vipat-tara, if reckoned from Janma Nakshatra - Ashlesha. > Here it should not forget that any natural benefic (Jup, Ven, Moon or Mer) > proves calamitous when owns 7th or 2nd house. Besides fateful ownership, Venus’ > occupation in the rashi sandhi of Caner further curtails the possibility of its > doing any good. Moreover it is devoid of benefic aspect; it only receives meagre > glance of Saturn. On other hand, the sign it occupies, constitutes only 20 > shubh-bindus in Sarvashtakavarga. Now consider the mutual relationship between > Venus and dashanath. Taking Leo �� " the abode of dashanatha Mars �� " as lagna, it > is found that Venus owing as well as residing in dushtana bhav. And it is > difficult for dashanath Mars to overcome this double malevolent of Venus. > Jyotish Classic especially Laghu Parasari and Brihat Parasar Hora Sastra > enunciated that sub period of unrelated natural benefic in yoga karaka leads to > disaster. So is the result of maraka lord in yoga karaka.†> >  > > > >  >  Vimshottari Dasa >  > > >  >  Maha >  >  >  Antar >  >  >  Dasa Starts >  >  >  Dasa Ends >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Mars >  >  >  18-Dec-2001 >  >  >  14-May-2002 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Rahu >  >  >  14-May-2002 >  >  >  02-Jun-2003 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Jupiter >  >  >  02-Jun-2003 >  >  >  07-May-2004 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Saturn >  >  >  07-May-2004 >  >  >  17-Jun-2005 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Mercury >  >  >  17-Jun-2005 >  >  >  14-Jun-2006 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Ketu >  >  >  14-Jun-2006 >  >  >  13-Nov-2006 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Venus >  >  >  13-Nov-2006 >  >  >  11-Jan-2008 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Sun >  >  >  11-Jan-2008 >  >  >  17-May-2008 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Moon >  >  >  17-May-2008 >  >  >  18-Dec-2008 >  > > > >  > >  > > Well, after > Mars-Venus sub period, the succeeding Mars-Sun and Mars-Moon antar dasas could > not catapult Musharraf to his earlier glory. In Mars-Sun, his political allies especially > faced a shameful defeat in February 18, 2008 general elections. The blow and > the downfall he suffered during Mars-Venus could also not cure during ongoing > Mars-Moon. Soon after August 1, 2008 Solar Eclipse, he came across impeachment > movement against him from newly elected assembly members. On August 17, 2008, a > Lunar Eclipse is also falling near his natal Sun �� " lord of 10th. In transit, > retrograde Jupiter is about to station at 18/19 degrees of Sagittarius: > somewhat exactly 6th from natal Moon and opposite to radical Jupiter. > >  > > A > significant but fateful factor that dented his position is the Sade Sati or > more precisely transit of Saturn in Purva Phalguni nakshatra. The question is > why Saturn in Purva Phalguni is bad perhaps evil for President Musharraf. It is > a Vipat (3rd nakshatra) not only from Moon but also from Lagna. Moreover this > asterism is owned by Venus, a maraka and the weakest planet in horoscope. Saturn > transits in Purva Phalguni from November 12, 2007 to January 26, 2008 and from July > 28, 2008 to November 26, 2008. Note that Pervez Musharrraf lost one of his > offices (as Chief of Army Staff) on November 28, 2007 during aforesaid gochar. > And now when Saturn is again transiting into Purva Phalguni (after > retrogression) , he is about to abdicate the presidency. > >  > > M. Imran > > August 15, > 2008 > >  > > Karachi > >  > > Pervez > Musharraf > >  > > Date:         August 11, 1942 > > Time:         3:19:00 pm > > Time > Zone:    5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place:        77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > >               Delhi, India > Body               Longitude       Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > >  > > Lagna              27 Sc 55' 35.07 " Jye      4   > Sc  Pi > > Sun > - AK           25 Cn 02' 32.80 " > Asre     3   Cn  > Aq > > Moon > - PiK         17 Cn 10' 23.91 " > Asre     1   Cn  > Sg > > Mars > - PK           13 Le 17' 41.79 " > Magh     4   Le  > Cn > > Mercury > - GK        3 Le 49' 50.65 " > Magh     2   Le  > Ta > > Jupiter > - AmK      20 Ge 44' 13.26 " > Puna     1   Ge  > Ar > > Venus > - DK          0 Cn 00' 46.36 " > Puna     4   Cn  > Cn > > Saturn > - MK        17 Ta 43' 32.04 " > Rohi     3   Ta  > Ge > > Rahu > - BK          12 Le 00' 41.01 " > Magh     4   Le  > Cn > > Ketu               12 Aq 00' 41.01 " Sata     2   > Aq  Cp > > >  > >                      Rasi                      > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > | > \                  /  \                  / | > > |  \              /      \     > Gk      /  | > > |    \          > /          \          /    > | > > |      \      > /     Md      \      > /      | > > |        \  > /                  \  /        > | > > |          x         As          x          | > > |        /  > \                  /  \        > | > > |      /      > \              /      \      > | > > |    /          > \          /          \    > | > > |  /      AL      \  > 8  /     Me      > \  | > > | > /                  \  /                  \ | > > |         Ke          x         Ma          | > > | > \                  /  \                  / | > > |  \              /      \     > Ra      /  | > > |    \    >       /          \          /    > | > > |      \      > /     HL      \      > /      | > > |        \  > /                  \  /    > Ve | > > |          x         Sa          x > Mo  Su | > > |        /  > \                  /  \    > GL | > > |      /      > \               /      \      > | > > |    /          > \          /          \    > | > > |  /              \      /     > Ju      \  | > > | > /                  \  /                  \ | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Dear Vishwanath, If we make the kundali as per the birth dtls given by you, it shows debilated moon. Any person who has debilated moon, his confidence level, command on speech, control on people down the line, guts to take risk, all this is not present. Pres Musharaf never showed the above qualities. He was above all the above things. Debilated moon in any house of the kundali makes a person tense, gives lack of confidence, makes u feel insecured, nervous. I think the yr 1943 is incorrect.  With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nair haresh1405; vedic astrology Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 2:10:23 PM [vedic astrology] Musharraf -- to Mr. Nathani Dear Nathani ji  Considering 6-45 am on 11-Aug-1943 New Delhi, one gets Asc Leo at Makha star. The time of birth reported in Mr. KN Rao's articles that it is 5-00 am. Mr. Rao said at that time was Musharaff is running Mars dasha. Mars is placed in house of 10th profession dignity, success, etc. bringing him glory.  Mr. Rao had also said that at the onset of Rahu dasha, he will be dethroned. Rahu is in Mercury star.  The Asc taken by Mr. Rao was Cancer, after careful considerations of various life events. If you see Rahu is in Mercury star, who is lord of 12 (loss). Mercury is in Leo gets the aspect of 8th lord Saturn. 8th is negation to Kingdom. Now transit Mercury and Saturn are also conjoined in Leo.  Your comments are welcome.  Rgds MK Viswanath --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > wrote: Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: President Musharraf Resigning vedic astrology Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 11:39 AM Dear Imran I hv gone through the zip files but his name does not appers in the list. Can u e mail me on my personal id pvtly, as i hv his dob as 11.8.43 6.45 am Is is right???  With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry) Nathani Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) M. Imran <astroimran> vedic astrology Monday, 18 August, 2008 8:49:16 PM [vedic astrology] Re: President Musharraf Resigning Dear Haresh Nathani, For birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf, please see the write-up " President Musharraf Resigning.pdf " uploaded at file section. http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ files/ By the way, I have been predicting, his ups and down, for last 6 years, however not for public, but for a limited circle his confidants. Even in Pakistan, only afew (non-professional) astrologers know his correct date and time of birt. Regards, M. Imran Karachi vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Imran > Can u give birth dtld of Pres Musharaf > >  > With Warm Regards > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor > Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India) > > > > > M. Imran <astroimran@ ....> > vedic astrology; sohamsa@ .com > Sunday, 17 August, 2008 2:26:50 AM > [vedic astrology] President Musharraf Resigning President > Musharraf Resigning > >  > > > >  > > It is a > matter of few days or more. President General (Rtd.) Pervez Musharraf has no > choice but to abdicate or face the impeachment. Now nobody left in Pakistan who wishes > to see him in the presidential office, including his old stalwarts in political > circle and minions in army. The sun of his pomp and power, that had already > eclipsed by judicial crises and demise of Benazir Bhutto last year, is about to > set now. > >  > > Born in > Scorpio lagna on Tuesday with lagnesh in 10th, Pervez Musharraf opened his eyes > in a non-martial family of old Delhi, > but it is destined for him to fight and believe that might is right. Mars, the > lord of lagna also owns 6th house and aspects the langa from 10th- Leo, whereas Saturn, > the lord of 3rd and dispositor of Ketu aspects the lagna simultaneously. Consequently, > he has lived a life of combatant: not only as commando or army chief, bur also as > chief executive of the country, as president and as politician. He tried to resolve > every problem �� " internal or external �� " with might. He led the Kargil War > against India, he thrown out Nawaz government, he became a front ally of USA in > War-on-Terror, he crushed the religious forces elements, he fought against > Baloch insurgents, he hit the Taliban of tribal areas, he kicked out the Chief > Justice, he handled the lawyers’ movement by force; in short, at every second > step he confronted opponents and enemies. But force can not be the panacea for > all trouble. And it is difficult perhaps impossible for a Martian soul to understand > this. > >  > > It was the beginning > of Mars dasa (December 2001) when the goddess of fortune smiled upon him. However, > he already got the power through coup d'état on October 12, 1999 in Moon-Ketu. Note > that Moon constitutes Rajayoga with Sun in two ways. Firstly association of > lord of 9th and 10th in trikona while secondly as association of Atma Karaka > (Sun) and Pitru Karaka (Moon) caused aforesaid yoga, which is further fortified > by the tie of Gati Lagna (GL).. But until 9/11, he was perceived as an unpopular > dictator, nationally and internally. It was the parallel dawn of his Mars > period and War-on-Terror that proved a blessing in disguise for him.. He became > one of the five most influential leaders of the world. International community forgot > that he is a dictator and depicted him as a rescuer against terrorism. Why? > Just look at the dasa lord Mars again from Arudha Lagna (AL); being lord of > 10th (Aquarius) it is powerfully disposed in 7th to the AL that resulted in Rajayoga. Mars �� " the most > robust planet in his nativity attains the rank of Yoga Karaka from Chandra and > Surya Lagnas, and simultaneously owning the Janm Lagna. In navamasa, nonetheless > it is debilitated but abodes in dharmamsa (i.e. in Cancer amsa for Scorpio > lagna). In dasamsa, Mars is again forming a powerful Rajayoga; being D10 lord it > is occupied in 9th-Sagittarius with 9th lord and getting full aspect of Saturn. > So it should not be a matter of wonder that one attains the acme of power in > the presence of such a forceful and pregnant dasa lord. > >  > > But the > throne, he got, was full of thorns (or say full of ember).. During his 9-year > regime, the country, however progressed economically (especially from > 2002-2006), but suffered socially and politically on account of War- on-Terror > and internal conflicts. Looking astrologically, Mars is full of might and > powerfully disposed in kendara and forming Rajayoga. But it is not flawless. Apart > from owning one of trishdai bhavas (3rd, 6th, 11th), Mars is closely conjunct > with Rahu, not only in Rasi but also in drekkhana, navamsa, dasama and other > vargas. It is usually observed that dasa of a retrograde yogakaraka or a > yogakaraka associated with retrograde planet or node yields fall and decline before > the end of that very dasa.. That is, it snatches what it gave at the start of > dasa. And this is what happened with Pervez Musharraf. > >  > > If the > mahadasa of Mars is divided into three phases (each of three sub- periods) then > last three antardasas are Mars-Venus, Mars-Sun and Mars-Moon. Amongst them > Mars-Venus proved most evil. The antar of Venus in Mars mahadasa, quaked his seat > and maligned his name and fame. It was Friday March 12, 2007, when he committed > the first major blunder of sacking the Chief Justice of Pakistan. Soon after > this faux pas, lawyers’ community began movement against him. But on July > 20, 2007, Supreme Court’s verdict went against Pervez Musharraf and the > suspended Chief Justice was reinstated. It was the very July of 2007 when he had > to pocket the severe criticism of media and civil society on Operation Silence > at Red Mosque Islamabad. It is to be noted that in July-August 2007, transit > nodal axis were moving exactly over radical nodal axis (Rahu-Ketu). Thereafter > he has been committing mistake over mistake. On November 3, 2007, he declared emergency > in the country, banned the media and expelled the entire panel of undesirable > judges, including Chief Justice. But after few weeks, he gave up the office of > Chief of Army Staff on November 28, 2007. Another unfortunate event during > Mar-Ven was the assassination of Benazir Bhutto on December 27, 2007 that made > him none less than a villain in the eyes of masses. Hence as a whole, year 2007 > proved a pitfall for him. And after doffing off the military uniform he became an > executive only in name. Definitely it is the cumulative of myriad malefic factors > (including radical and annual charts of Pakistan); but Mars-Venus may put top > of the list. > >  > > At the > beginning of his Venus antar, the scribe wrote: “Venus antar (November 2006 to > January 2008) in Mars mahadasha would prove fatal. Prima facie it is next to > impossible as Venus is placed in bhagyasthan with bhagesh (Moon), but in > reality it has many baneful factors. Venus is not only lord of 7th and 12th houses > but also owns evil Vipat-tara, if reckoned from Janma Nakshatra - Ashlesha. > Here it should not forget that any natural benefic (Jup, Ven, Moon or Mer) > proves calamitous when owns 7th or 2nd house. Besides fateful ownership, Venus’ > occupation in the rashi sandhi of Caner further curtails the possibility of its > doing any good. Moreover it is devoid of benefic aspect; it only receives meagre > glance of Saturn. On other hand, the sign it occupies, constitutes only 20 > shubh-bindus in Sarvashtakavarga. Now consider the mutual relationship between > Venus and dashanath. Taking Leo �� " the abode of dashanatha Mars �� " as lagna, it > is found that Venus owing as well as residing in dushtana bhav. And it is > difficult for dashanath Mars to overcome this double malevolent of Venus. > Jyotish Classic especially Laghu Parasari and Brihat Parasar Hora Sastra > enunciated that sub period of unrelated natural benefic in yoga karaka leads to > disaster. So is the result of maraka lord in yoga karaka.†> >  > > > >  >  Vimshottari Dasa >  > > >  >  Maha >  >  >  Antar >  >  >  Dasa Starts >  >  >  Dasa Ends >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Mars >  >  >  18-Dec-2001 >  >  >  14-May-2002 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Rahu >  >  >  14-May-2002 >  >  >  02-Jun-2003 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Jupiter >  >  >  02-Jun-2003 >  >  >  07-May-2004 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Saturn >  >  >  07-May-2004 >  >  >  17-Jun-2005 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Mercury >  >  >  17-Jun-2005 >  >  >  14-Jun-2006 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Ketu >  >  >  14-Jun-2006 >  >  >  13-Nov-2006 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Venus >  >  >  13-Nov-2006 >  >  >  11-Jan-2008 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Sun >  >  >  11-Jan-2008 >  >  >  17-May-2008 >  > > >  >  Mars >  >  >  Moon >  >  >  17-May-2008 >  >  >  18-Dec-2008 >  > > > >  > >  > > Well, after > Mars-Venus sub period, the succeeding Mars-Sun and Mars-Moon antar dasas could > not catapult Musharraf to his earlier glory. In Mars-Sun, his political allies especially > faced a shameful defeat in February 18, 2008 general elections. The blow and > the downfall he suffered during Mars-Venus could also not cure during ongoing > Mars-Moon. Soon after August 1, 2008 Solar Eclipse, he came across impeachment > movement against him from newly elected assembly members. On August 17, 2008, a > Lunar Eclipse is also falling near his natal Sun �� " lord of 10th. In transit, > retrograde Jupiter is about to station at 18/19 degrees of Sagittarius: > somewhat exactly 6th from natal Moon and opposite to radical Jupiter. > >  > > A > significant but fateful factor that dented his position is the Sade Sati or > more precisely transit of Saturn in Purva Phalguni nakshatra.. The question is > why Saturn in Purva Phalguni is bad perhaps evil for President Musharraf. It is > a Vipat (3rd nakshatra) not only from Moon but also from Lagna. Moreover this > asterism is owned by Venus, a maraka and the weakest planet in horoscope. Saturn > transits in Purva Phalguni from November 12, 2007 to January 26, 2008 and from July > 28, 2008 to November 26, 2008. Note that Pervez Musharrraf lost one of his > offices (as Chief of Army Staff) on November 28, 2007 during aforesaid gochar. > And now when Saturn is again transiting into Purva Phalguni (after > retrogression) , he is about to abdicate the presidency. > >  > > M. Imran > > August 15, > 2008 > >  > > Karachi > >  > > Pervez > Musharraf > >  > > Date:         August 11, 1942 > > Time:         3:19:00 pm > > Time > Zone:    5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place:        77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > >               Delhi, India > Body               Longitude       Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > >  > > Lagna              27 Sc 55' 35.07 " Jye      4   > Sc  Pi > > Sun > - AK           25 Cn 02' 32.80 " > Asre     3   Cn  > Aq > > Moon > - PiK         17 Cn 10' 23.91 " > Asre     1   Cn  > Sg > > Mars > - PK           13 Le 17' 41..79 " > Magh     4   Le  > Cn > > Mercury > - GK        3 Le 49' 50.65 " > Magh     2   Le  > Ta > > Jupiter > - AmK      20 Ge 44' 13.26 " > Puna     1   Ge  > Ar > > Venus > - DK          0 Cn 00' 46.36 " > Puna     4   Cn  > Cn > > Saturn > - MK        17 Ta 43' 32.04 " > Rohi     3   Ta  > Ge > > Rahu > - BK          12 Le 00' 41.01 " > Magh     4   Le  > Cn > > Ketu               12 Aq 00' 41.01 " Sata     2   > Aq  Cp > > >  > >                      Rasi                      > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > | > \                  /  \                  / | > > |  \              /      \     > Gk      /  | > > |    \          > /          \          /    > | > > |      \      > /     Md      \      > /      | > > |        \  > /                  \  /        > | > > |          x         As          x          | > > |        /  > \                  /  \        > | > > |      /      > \              /      \      > | > > |    /          > \          /          \    > | > > |  /      AL      \  > 8  /     Me      > \  | > > | > /                  \  /                  \ | > > |         Ke          x         Ma          | > > | > \                  /  \                  / | > > |  \              /      \     > Ra      /  | > > |    \    >       /          \          /    > | > > |      \      > /     HL      \      > /      | > > |        \  > /                  \  /    > Ve | > > |          x         Sa          x > Mo  Su | > > |        /  > \                  /  \    > GL | > > |      /      > \               /      \      > | > > |    /          > \          /          \    > | > > |  /              \      /     > Ju      \  | > > | > /                  \  /                  \ | > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > >    > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 yes i m fully agree taht general has cancer langa the jupiter n venus position gives him rajyoga but at the same time rahu is not favourable for him n the starting of rahu mahadasha will give him danger in all field...n he may face attack also..or he has to leave pakistan...thou the time of mangal dasha was excellent for him n he enjoy the rajyoga during the mars dasha wich is strong as karmesh krishna www.astroprayer.com vedic astrology , MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > > Dear Nathani ji >  > Considering 6-45 am on 11-Aug-1943 New Delhi, one gets Asc Leo at Makha star. > The time of birth reported in Mr. KN Rao's articles that it is 5- 00 am. Mr. Rao said at that time was Musharaff is running Mars dasha. Mars is placed in house of 10th profession dignity, success, etc. bringing him glory. >  > Mr. Rao had also said that at the onset of Rahu dasha, he will be dethroned. Rahu is in Mercury star. >  > The Asc taken by Mr. Rao was Cancer, after careful considerations of various life events. > If you see Rahu is in Mercury star, who is lord of 12 (loss). Mercury is in Leo gets the aspect of 8th lord Saturn. 8th is negation to Kingdom. Now transit Mercury and Saturn are also conjoined in Leo. >  > Your comments are welcome. >  > Rgds > MK Viswanath > > > --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: > > Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: President Musharraf Resigning > vedic astrology > Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 11:39 AM Dear Imran > I hv gone through the zip files but his name does not appers in the list. Can u e mail me on my personal id pvtly, as i hv his dob as 11.8.43 6.45 am Is is right??? > >  > With Warm Regards > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor > Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India) > > > M. Imran <astroimran > > vedic astrology > Monday, 18 August, 2008 8:49:16 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: President Musharraf Resigning > > Dear Haresh Nathani, > > For birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf, please see the > write-up " President Musharraf Resigning.pdf " uploaded at file section. > http://groups. / group/vedic- astrology/ files/ > > By the way, I have been predicting, his ups and down, for last 6 > years, however not for public, but for a limited circle his > confidants. Even in Pakistan, only afew (non-professional) > astrologers know his correct date and time of birt. > > Regards, > M. Imran > Karachi > > vedic astrology, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Imran > > Can u give birth dtld of Pres Musharaf > > > >  > > With Warm Regards > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > > Vedic Astologer & Vaastu Consultant > > Insurance Advisor > > Cell +91 98672 14103 > > Mumbai,India) > > > > > > > > > > M. Imran <astroimran@ ....> > > vedic astrology; sohamsa@ .com > > Sunday, 17 August, 2008 2:26:50 AM > > [vedic astrology] President Musharraf Resigning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > President > > Musharraf Resigning > > > >  > > > > > > > >  > > > > It is a > > matter of few days or more. President General (Rtd.) Pervez > Musharraf has no > > choice but to abdicate or face the impeachment. Now nobody left in > Pakistan who wishes > > to see him in the presidential office, including his old stalwarts > in political > > circle and minions in army. The sun of his pomp and power, that had > already > > eclipsed by judicial crises and demise of Benazir Bhutto last year, > is about to > > set now. > > > >  > > > > Born in > > Scorpio lagna on Tuesday with lagnesh in 10th, Pervez Musharraf > opened his eyes > > in a non-martial family of old Delhi, > > but it is destined for him to fight and believe that might is > right. Mars, the > > lord of lagna also owns 6th house and aspects the langa from 10th- > Leo, whereas Saturn, > > the lord of 3rd and dispositor of Ketu aspects the lagna > simultaneously. Consequently, > > he has lived a life of combatant: not only as commando or army > chief, bur also as > > chief executive of the country, as president and as politician. He > tried to resolve > > every problem �� " internal or external �� " with might. He led the > Kargil War > > against India, he thrown out Nawaz government, he became a front > ally of USA in > > War-on-Terror, he crushed the religious forces elements, he fought > against > > Baloch insurgents, he hit the Taliban of tribal areas, he kicked > out the Chief > > Justice, he handled the lawyers’ movement by force; in short, at > every second > > step he confronted opponents and enemies. But force can not be the > panacea for > > all trouble. And it is difficult perhaps impossible for a Martian > soul to understand > > this. > > > >  > > > > It was the beginning > > of Mars dasa (December 2001) when the goddess of fortune smiled > upon him. However, > > he already got the power through coup d'état on October 12, 1999 > in Moon-Ketu. Note > > that Moon constitutes Rajayoga with Sun in two ways. Firstly > association of > > lord of 9th and 10th in trikona while secondly as association of > Atma Karaka > > (Sun) and Pitru Karaka (Moon) caused aforesaid yoga, which is > further fortified > > by the tie of Gati Lagna (GL).. But until 9/11, he was perceived as > an unpopular > > dictator, nationally and internally. It was the parallel dawn of > his Mars > > period and War-on-Terror that proved a blessing in disguise for > him. He became > > one of the five most influential leaders of the world. > International community forgot > > that he is a dictator and depicted him as a rescuer against > terrorism. Why? > > Just look at the dasa lord Mars again from Arudha Lagna (AL); being > lord of > > 10th (Aquarius) it is powerfully disposed in 7th to the AL that > resulted in Rajayoga. Mars �� " the most > > robust planet in his nativity attains the rank of Yoga Karaka from > Chandra and > > Surya Lagnas, and simultaneously owning the Janm Lagna. In > navamasa, nonetheless > > it is debilitated but abodes in dharmamsa (i.e. in Cancer amsa for > Scorpio > > lagna). In dasamsa, Mars is again forming a powerful Rajayoga; > being D10 lord it > > is occupied in 9th-Sagittarius with 9th lord and getting full > aspect of Saturn. > > So it should not be a matter of wonder that one attains the acme of > power in > > the presence of such a forceful and pregnant dasa lord. > > > >  > > > > But the > > throne, he got, was full of thorns (or say full of ember).. During > his 9-year > > regime, the country, however progressed economically (especially > from > > 2002-2006), but suffered socially and politically on account of War- > on-Terror > > and internal conflicts. Looking astrologically, Mars is full of > might and > > powerfully disposed in kendara and forming Rajayoga. But it is not > flawless. Apart > > from owning one of trishdai bhavas (3rd, 6th, 11th), Mars is > closely conjunct > > with Rahu, not only in Rasi but also in drekkhana, navamsa, dasama > and other > > vargas. It is usually observed that dasa of a retrograde yogakaraka > or a > > yogakaraka associated with retrograde planet or node yields fall > and decline before > > the end of that very dasa.. That is, it snatches what it gave at > the start of > > dasa. And this is what happened with Pervez Musharraf. > > > >  > > > > If the > > mahadasa of Mars is divided into three phases (each of three sub- > periods) then > > last three antardasas are Mars-Venus, Mars-Sun and Mars-Moon. > Amongst them > > Mars-Venus proved most evil. The antar of Venus in Mars mahadasa, > quaked his seat > > and maligned his name and fame. It was Friday March 12, 2007, when > he committed > > the first major blunder of sacking the Chief Justice of Pakistan. > Soon after > > this faux pas, lawyers’ community began movement against him. > But on July > > 20, 2007, Supreme Court’s verdict went against Pervez Musharraf > and the > > suspended Chief Justice was reinstated. It was the very July of > 2007 when he had > > to pocket the severe criticism of media and civil society on > Operation Silence > > at Red Mosque Islamabad. It is to be noted that in July-August > 2007, transit > > nodal axis were moving exactly over radical nodal axis (Rahu- Ketu). > Thereafter > > he has been committing mistake over mistake. On November 3, 2007, > he declared emergency > > in the country, banned the media and expelled the entire panel of > undesirable > > judges, including Chief Justice. But after few weeks, he gave up > the office of > > Chief of Army Staff on November 28, 2007. Another unfortunate event > during > > Mar-Ven was the assassination of Benazir Bhutto on December 27, > 2007 that made > > him none less than a villain in the eyes of masses. Hence as a > whole, year 2007 > > proved a pitfall for him. And after doffing off the military > uniform he became an > > executive only in name. Definitely it is the cumulative of myriad > malefic factors > > (including radical and annual charts of Pakistan); but Mars- Venus > may put top > > of the list. > > > >  > > > > At the > > beginning of his Venus antar, the scribe wrote: “Venus antar > (November 2006 to > > January 2008) in Mars mahadasha would prove fatal. Prima facie it > is next to > > impossible as Venus is placed in bhagyasthan with bhagesh (Moon), > but in > > reality it has many baneful factors. Venus is not only lord of 7th > and 12th houses > > but also owns evil Vipat-tara, if reckoned from Janma Nakshatra - > Ashlesha. > > Here it should not forget that any natural benefic (Jup, Ven, Moon > or Mer) > > proves calamitous when owns 7th or 2nd house. Besides fateful > ownership, Venus’ > > occupation in the rashi sandhi of Caner further curtails the > possibility of its > > doing any good. Moreover it is devoid of benefic aspect; it only > receives meagre > > glance of Saturn. On other hand, the sign it occupies, constitutes > only 20 > > shubh-bindus in Sarvashtakavarga. Now consider the mutual > relationship between > > Venus and dashanath. Taking Leo �� " the abode of dashanatha Mars > �� " as lagna, it > > is found that Venus owing as well as residing in dushtana bhav. And > it is > > difficult for dashanath Mars to overcome this double malevolent of > Venus. > > Jyotish Classic especially Laghu Parasari and Brihat Parasar Hora > Sastra > > enunciated that sub period of unrelated natural benefic in yoga > karaka leads to > > disaster. So is the result of maraka lord in yoga karaka.†> > > >  > > > > > > > >  > >  Vimshottari Dasa > >  > > > > > >  > >  Maha > >  > >  > >  Antar > >  > >  > >  Dasa Starts > >  > >  > >  Dasa Ends > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  18-Dec-2001 > >  > >  > >  14-May-2002 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Rahu > >  > >  > >  14-May-2002 > >  > >  > >  02-Jun-2003 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Jupiter > >  > >  > >  02-Jun-2003 > >  > >  > >  07-May-2004 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Saturn > >  > >  > >  07-May-2004 > >  > >  > >  17-Jun-2005 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Mercury > >  > >  > >  17-Jun-2005 > >  > >  > >  14-Jun-2006 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Ketu > >  > >  > >  14-Jun-2006 > >  > >  > >  13-Nov-2006 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Venus > >  > >  > >  13-Nov-2006 > >  > >  > >  11-Jan-2008 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Sun > >  > >  > >  11-Jan-2008 > >  > >  > >  17-May-2008 > >  > > > > > >  > >  Mars > >  > >  > >  Moon > >  > >  > >  17-May-2008 > >  > >  > >  18-Dec-2008 > >  > > > > > > > >  > > > >  > > > > Well, after > > Mars-Venus sub period, the succeeding Mars-Sun and Mars-Moon antar > dasas could > > not catapult Musharraf to his earlier glory. In Mars-Sun, his > political allies especially > > faced a shameful defeat in February 18, 2008 general elections. The > blow and > > the downfall he suffered during Mars-Venus could also not cure > during ongoing > > Mars-Moon. Soon after August 1, 2008 Solar Eclipse, he came across > impeachment > > movement against him from newly elected assembly members. On August > 17, 2008, a > > Lunar Eclipse is also falling near his natal Sun �� " lord of 10th. > In transit, > > retrograde Jupiter is about to station at 18/19 degrees of > Sagittarius: > > somewhat exactly 6th from natal Moon and opposite to radical > Jupiter. > > > >  > > > > A > > significant but fateful factor that dented his position is the Sade > Sati or > > more precisely transit of Saturn in Purva Phalguni nakshatra. The > question is > > why Saturn in Purva Phalguni is bad perhaps evil for President > Musharraf. It is > > a Vipat (3rd nakshatra) not only from Moon but also from Lagna. > Moreover this > > asterism is owned by Venus, a maraka and the weakest planet in > horoscope. Saturn > > transits in Purva Phalguni from November 12, 2007 to January 26, > 2008 and from July > > 28, 2008 to November 26, 2008. Note that Pervez Musharrraf lost one > of his > > offices (as Chief of Army Staff) on November 28, 2007 during > aforesaid gochar. > > And now when Saturn is again transiting into Purva Phalguni (after > > retrogression) , he is about to abdicate the presidency. > > > >  > > > > M. Imran > > > > August 15, > > 2008 > > > >  > > > > Karachi > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pervez > > Musharraf > > > >  > > > > Date:         August 11, 1942 > > > > Time:         3:19:00 pm > > > > Time > > Zone:    5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place:        77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " > > > >               Delhi, India > > Body               Longitude       > Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > > >  > > > > Lagna              27 Sc 55' 35.07 " Jye      > 4   > > Sc  Pi > > > > Sun > > - AK           25 Cn 02' 32.80 " > > Asre     3   Cn  > > Aq > > > > Moon > > - PiK         17 Cn 10' 23.91 " > > Asre     1   Cn  > > Sg > > > > Mars > > - PK           13 Le 17' 41.79 " > > Magh     4   Le  > > Cn > > > > Mercury > > - GK        3 Le 49' 50.65 " > > Magh     2   Le  > > Ta > > > > Jupiter > > - AmK      20 Ge 44' 13.26 " > > Puna     1   Ge  > > Ar > > > > Venus > > - DK          0 Cn 00' 46.36 " > > Puna     4   Cn  > > Cn > > > > Saturn > > - MK        17 Ta 43' 32.04 " > > Rohi     3   Ta  > > Ge > > > > Rahu > > - BK          12 Le 00' 41.01 " > > Magh     4   Le  > > Cn > > > > Ketu               12 Aq 00' 41.01 " Sata     > 2   > > Aq  Cp > > > > > >  > > > >                      > Rasi                      > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > | > > \                  /  > \                  / | > > > > |  \              /      \     > > Gk      /  | > > > > |    \          > > /          \          /    > > | > > > > |      \      > > /     Md      \      > > /      | > > > > |        \  > > /                  \  /        > > | > > > > |          x         As          > x          | > > > > |        /  > > \                  /  \        > > | > > > > |      /      > > \              /      \      > > | > > > > |    /          > > \          /          \    > > | > > > > |  /      AL      \  > > 8  /     Me      > > \  | > > > > | > > /                  > \  /                  \ | > > > > |         Ke          x         > Ma          | > > > > | > > \                  /  > \                  / | > > > > |  \              /      \     > > Ra      /  | > > > > |    \    > >       /          \          /    > > | > > > > |      \      > > /     HL      \      > > /      | > > > > |        \  > > /                  \  /    > > Ve | > > > > |          x         Sa          x > > Mo  Su | > > > > |        /  > > \                  /  \    > > GL | > > > > |      /      > > \               /      \      > > | > > > > |    /          > > \          /          \    > > | > > > > |  /              \      /     > > Ju      \  | > > > > | > > /                  > \  /                  \ | > > > > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- + > > > > > > > > > > > >    > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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