Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan (correction)

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Dear Gopal Goel,

 

I read your message with interest. But it is difficult to agree with the birth

details of Pervez Musharraf, you brought into light. Which according to you, is

22-July-1945 (2:31 AM). As far as I've heard, during Musharraf's visit to India

(2005), it was unveiled that he was not born on 11-August 1943.

 

Among various newspapers (see the daily HINDU of 18-April-2005) here are few

relevant links;

http://www.hindu.com/2005/04/18/stories/2005041802952000.htm

http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/15mush2.htm

 

Here one should keep in mind that hospital records in sub-continents hardly

possess name of the native. But names of father and paternal grandfather are

generally found in hospital records or maternity certificates. Unfortunately,

referred news-links, do not indicate grandfather name of Pervez Musharraf (i.e.

Syed Sharfuddin). Moreover, at that time (before partition of India) it was not

obligatory to mention national identity card, ration card or social security

card number in birth records of children. Hence an astrologer should also search

for another cross-reference before reaching any conclusion. That is why I think,

there are faint chances that the records of all three children (unearthed by

NDMC) in 2005, must be progeny of Musharrf-ud-din (father of Pervez Musharraf);

unless other sources and factors support it.

 

Secondly, for the correction of your record and members’ information: Pervez

Musharraf HAS NO ELDER SISTER (as you presumed on the basis a news report). Her

mother has only three sons; Javed Musharraf (eldest), Pervez Musharraf (middle),

Naved Musharraf (youngest).  So relying blindly on incomplete news may lead to

wrong inference about any fact. If New Delhi Municipal Corporation (NDMC) found

that a baby girl (daughter of a person named, Musharraf-ud-din) was born on July

19, 1941. Then it does not conclude that she must be the eldest sister of Pervez

Musharraf (as you speculated). Just think a while, how many people having name

Musharraf in Delhi, and how many might have their children born in 1940s.

Lastly, can it be surely said that Municipal Corporation of an Indian

metropolitan has the correct birth records of all children.

 

In my humble opinion, the birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf is

11-August-1942, 3:19 PM, +5:30 GMT, as provided by president himself, and the

time birth was endorsed by his mother (Begum Zarin Musharraf).

 

Well, there is another acid test to confirm a chart. That is, to tally all major

life events with available charts and reaching to a best possible solution. I

did this tallying long before and found 11-August-1942 quite satisfactory. But

this doesn’t mean that I am definitely right. I may be wrong.

Nothing is absolute in this world.

 

With Regards,

M. Imran

 

24-August-2008

Karachi

 

 

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937

Re: Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of

Pakistan....................

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

Cc: vedic astrology , " sohamsa " <sohamsa >,

astroimran

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:27 PM

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,

When Gen, Musharraf visited India , the news reports in Delhi papers at that

time, indicated :

Musharraf had elder sister ( date of birth-July 19,1941) and elder brother

(August 11,1942). This

information , I have noted in my diary. I am thus giving you the information as

noted by me and not

based on my memory.

Musarraf should have born in 1943  or in any subsequent year.

Papers also indicated that probably his date of birth is July22,1945 at 2.31

AM(WAR TIME OR IST ?).

 Mr. Imran has taken the birth date of  his elder brother . Imran should verify

the birth details of his

elder sister and brother and official birth date of Gen. Musharraf ., this will

help to reach on reliable birth data.

In north India , it was a common practice   in those troubled times to declare

birth dates to gain admission in schools .And some times there was a wide

diference in actual and real birth dated.

If we consider  THAT the news paper reports might had some basis , kindy give a

thought on these birth details:

  July 22, 1945 at 2.34.42 IST Delhi India, Ayanamsa 23-04-51-    True Nodes are

adopted

Lagna is Taurus with Mars and Venus.AMT karka and 10HL Saturn with Rahu in 2H

giving inflated

political ambition.(compare Moon and Venus in 2H of Vajpeeji and Mars and Moon

in 2H OF Modi)

In D-10 CHART, Leo is rising with Sun in 9H in Aries,all the angular houses are

occupied.

He became army chief on Oct10,1945 in Mars /Mercury/Venus( Mercury is Marka lord

also).

He BECAME RESIDENT ON 12-10-1999 IN Rahu/Rahu/Rahu ( AGAIN RAHU IS MARKA

PLANET).

HE RESIGNED ON 18-8-2008  in Rahu/Merc/Venus (Rahu and Mercury  are Marka

planets and Venus is the

Lord of 6H and with Mars which is 12HL)Saturn is transiting  over Mercury and

aspecting Venus.Jupiter in

transit in 8H ENSURED peaceful and orderly exit.

Laghu Parasari's Sloka 33 says: If Rajyoga starts in the sub-period of Marka

planet,Such Rajyoga

gets strengthened in subsequent sub-period of malefic planets,-This dicta works

very well in this nativity (parallel

case was P V NARSHIMHA RAO EX PM OF INDIA)

I have given the above analysis in brief. Savants may give their comments in

details.

Regards

 

 

 

 

 G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

 

 

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandey

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

Friday, 22 August, 2008 10:41:58 PM

[ind. & West. Astrology] Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of

Pakistan....................

 

 

 

 

 

Shri K N Rao Ji has made very correct statement in his article

related to Mr. Musharaf i.e:-

 

" I told my students that I will prefer Venus in the eighth house in

Mithun a and therefore could predict that he would be deserted by

many and feel disgraced and forlorn as he is today. "

 

Now If Ve will go to 8'th house than Ve will become AK and there

would be shifting for all chara karakas.

 

And Ma will become GK and Me will become DK. DK is responsible for

the way by which you are earning money and it is in same house where

Ma is sitting so he was related to Army Job.

 

(Ma, Me and Ra are in 10’th house and also 7’th to AL,, so major

event of his life clicked through job but related to his enemies,,

but whatever wrong deeds he has done he has to pay as Ju is not in

quadrant to La and AL)

 

Now see one thing his GK is debilitated in D-9 and also in sixth

house with Ra(Mr. K N

Rao has rectified his chart very

brilliantly) .Ma is also Lagna lord.I have written that if La lord is

debilitated in D-9 than it can make amazing personality basically

leaders with whom normal public can not live.

 

Now see when Ma VMD started than Ra which is close to Ma should show

its effect as they are in close yuti and Ra I take more malefic than

Ra,, so most malefic results had to come. Ra is evil and also Karaka

of political machination. So he did coup (why coup and why he

succeeded because Ma as GK is debilitated in D-9 being in 6'th house

in D-9 with Ra).

 

Now see what is the use of Me. Me is his DK, so he was general (as

Ma is also in 10'th house) and did coup to come to political power.

 

So Mr. K N Rao is saying right that Ve should be in 8'th house.

 

And there is no doubt that 1942 DOB birth is correct.

 

One more thing,, i doubt that he has hand behind Benazir's

 

assassination. I can not write as it is very serious issue. You can

easily get the clue how i am saying this.

 

Please check it with AL which is in his 4'th house and Ra is lord of

AL and Ra and Ma with Me are 7’th to AL. And Ra VMD is running now

Ma will show its effect(Ma is karaka of violence and murderous

activity).

 

If he makes his own political party in Pakistan and tries to come to

power than no doubt there could be hand of Musharaf behind Benazir's

assassination.

 

Ra is really devil and it produce criminal if it is not AK or AMK.

Sa please save us from Ra.

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

 

P.S.:- I am leaving somewhere as my Ke Ad(which is in 9’th house in

the Aq rashi) is going to be started so where I would be going,,

definitely to any camp related to spiritualism.

 

Happy Janmastami to all members.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Gopal Goel,I read your message with interest. But it is difficult to agree with the birth details of Pervez Musharraf, you brought into light. Which according to you, is 22-July-1945 (2:31 AM). As far as I've heard, during Musharraf's visit to India (2005), it was unveiled that he was not born on 11-August 1943. Among various newspapers (see the daily HINDU of 18-April-2005) here are few relevant links;http://www.hindu.com/2005/04/18/stories/2005041802952000.htmhttp://www.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/15mush2.htmHere one should keep in mind that hospital records in sub-continents hardly possess name of the native. But names of father and paternal grandfather are generally found in hospital records or maternity certificates. Unfortunately, referred news-links, do not indicate grandfather name of Pervez Musharraf (i.e. Syed

Sharfuddin). Moreover, at that time (before partition of India) it was not obligatory to mention national identity card, ration card or social security card number in birth records of children. Hence an astrologer should also search for another cross-reference before reaching any conclusion. That is why I think, there are faint chances that the records of all three children (unearthed by NDMC) in 2005, must be progeny of Musharrf-ud-din (father of Pervez Musharraf); unless other sources and factors support it. Secondly, for the correction of your record and members’ information: Pervez Musharraf HAS NO ELDER SISTER (as you presumed on the basis a news report). Her mother has only three sons; Javed Musharraf (eldest), Pervez Musharraf (middle), Naved Musharraf (youngest). So relying blindly on incomplete news may lead to wrong inference about any fact. If New Delhi Municipal Corporation (NDMC)

found that a baby girl (daughter of a person named, Musharraf-ud-din) was born on July 19, 1941. Then it does not conclude that she must be the eldest sister of Pervez Musharraf (as you speculated). Just think a while, how many people having name Musharraf in Delhi, and how many might have their children born in 1940s. Lastly, can it be surely said that Municipal Corporation of an Indian metropolitan has the correct birth records of all children. In my humble opinion, the birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf is 11-August-1942, 3:19 PM, +5:30 GMT, as provided by president himself, and the time birth was endorsed by his mother (Begum Zarin Musharraf). Well, there is another acid test to confirm a chart. That is, to tally all major life events with available charts and reaching to a best possible solution. I did this tallying long before and found 11-August-1942 quite satisfactory. But this doesn’t mean that I am definitely

right. I may be wrong. Nothing is absolute in this world.With Regards,M. Imran24-August-2008Karachi--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937Re: Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan....................Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Cc: vedic astrology , "sohamsa" <sohamsa >, astroimranDate: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:27 PM

Dear Pandey ji,

When Gen, Musharraf visited India , the news reports in Delhi papers at that time, indicated :

Musharraf had elder sister ( date of birth-July 19,1941) and elder brother (August 11,1942). This

information , I have noted in my diary. I am thus giving you the information as noted by me and not

based on my memory.

Musarraf should have born in 1943 or in any subsequent year.

Papers also indicated that probably his date of birth is July22,1945 at 2.31 AM(WAR TIME OR IST ?).

Mr. Imran has taken the birth date of his elder brother . Imran should verify the birth details of his

elder sister and brother and official birth date of Gen. Musharraf ., this will help to reach on reliable birth data.

In north India , it was a common practice in those troubled times to declare birth dates to gain admission in schools .And some times there was a wide diference in actual and real birth dated.

If we consider THAT the news paper reports might had some basis , kindy give a thought on these birth details:

July 22, 1945 at 2.34.42 IST Delhi India, Ayanamsa 23-04-51- True Nodes are adopted

Lagna is Taurus with Mars and Venus.AMT karka and 10HL Saturn with Rahu in 2H giving inflated

political ambition.(compare Moon and Venus in 2H of Vajpeeji and Mars and Moon in 2H OF Modi)

In D-10 CHART, Leo is rising with Sun in 9H in Aries,all the angular houses are occupied.

He became army chief on Oct10,1945 in Mars /Mercury/Venus( Mercury is Marka lord also).

He BECAME RESIDENT ON 12-10-1999 IN Rahu/Rahu/Rahu ( AGAIN RAHU IS MARKA PLANET).

HE RESIGNED ON 18-8-2008 in Rahu/Merc/Venus (Rahu and Mercury are Marka planets and Venus is the

Lord of 6H and with Mars which is 12HL)Saturn is transiting over Mercury and aspecting Venus.Jupiter in

transit in 8H ENSURED peaceful and orderly exit.

Laghu Parasari's Sloka 33 says: If Rajyoga starts in the sub-period of Marka planet,Such Rajyoga

gets strengthened in subsequent sub-period of malefic planets,-This dicta works very well in this nativity (parallel

case was P V NARSHIMHA RAO EX PM OF INDIA)

I have given the above analysis in brief. Savants may give their comments in details.

Regards

 

 

 

G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandeyIndian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Sent: Friday, 22 August, 2008 10:41:58 PM[ind. & West. Astrology] Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan....................

 

Shri K N Rao Ji has made very correct statement in his article related to Mr. Musharaf i.e:-"I told my students that I will prefer Venus in the eighth house inMithun a and therefore could predict that he would be deserted bymany and feel disgraced and forlorn as he is today. "Now If Ve will go to 8'th house than Ve will become AK and there would be shifting for all chara karakas.And Ma will become GK and Me will become DK. DK is responsible for the way by which you are earning money and it is in same house where Ma is sitting so he was related to Army Job.(Ma, Me and Ra are in 10’th house and also 7’th to AL,, so major event of his life clicked through job but related to his enemies,, but whatever wrong deeds he has done he has to pay as Ju is not in quadrant to La and AL)Now see one thing his GK is debilitated in D-9 and also in sixth house with Ra(Mr. K N

Rao has rectified his chart very brilliantly) .Ma is also Lagna lord.I have written that if La lord is debilitated in D-9 than it can make amazing personality basically leaders with whom normal public can not live.Now see when Ma VMD started than Ra which is close to Ma should show its effect as they are in close yuti and Ra I take more malefic than Ra,, so most malefic results had to come. Ra is evil and also Karaka of political machination. So he did coup (why coup and why he succeeded because Ma as GK is debilitated in D-9 being in 6'th house in D-9 with Ra).Now see what is the use of Me. Me is his DK, so he was general (as Ma is also in 10'th house) and did coup to come to political power.So Mr. K N Rao is saying right that Ve should be in 8'th house.And there is no doubt that 1942 DOB birth is correct.One more thing,, i doubt that he has hand behind Benazir's

assassination. I can not write as it is very serious issue. You can easily get the clue how i am saying this.Please check it with AL which is in his 4'th house and Ra is lord of AL and Ra and Ma with Me are 7’th to AL. And Ra VMD is running now Ma will show its effect(Ma is karaka of violence and murderous activity). If he makes his own political party in Pakistan and tries to come to power than no doubt there could be hand of Musharaf behind Benazir's assassination.Ra is really devil and it produce criminal if it is not AK or AMK. Sa please save us from Ra.Regs,Prashant PandeyP.S.:- I am leaving somewhere as my Ke Ad(which is in 9’th house in the Aq rashi) is going to be started so where I would be going,, definitely to any camp related to spiritualism.Happy Janmastami to all members.

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Dear Mr. Imran,

I have given you the data as appeared in news papers This is also confirmed

 by the two references of news items given by you.As these news reports were

neither conclusive

or confirmatory,  that is why I requested you to verify the facts.

In case , you have  obtained the birth details from the native himself and also

got the confirmation

from his mother, we will work on the birth data provided by you.

Many thanks for all the trouble you have taken to provide all of us correct

details.

Regards,

 

 G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

 

 

M. Imran <astroimran

Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937

Cc: SJV Group <vedic astrology >; Sohamsa

<sohamsa >

Sunday, 24 August, 2008 2:33:05 AM

Re: Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan (correction)

 

 

Dear Gopal Goel,

 

I read your message with interest. But it is difficult to agree with the birth

details of Pervez Musharraf, you brought into light. Which according to you, is

22-July-1945 (2:31 AM). As far as I've heard, during Musharraf's visit to India

(2005), it was unveiled that he was not born on 11-August 1943.

 

Among various newspapers (see the daily HINDU of 18-April-2005) here are few

relevant links;

http://www.hindu.com/2005/04/18/stories/2005041802952000.htm

http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/15mush2.htm

 

Here one should keep in mind that hospital records in sub-continents hardly

possess name of the native. But names of father and paternal grandfather are

generally found in hospital records or maternity certificates. Unfortunately,

referred news-links, do not indicate grandfather name of Pervez Musharraf (i.e.

Syed Sharfuddin). Moreover, at that time (before partition of India) it was not

obligatory to mention national identity card, ration card or social security

card number in birth records of children. Hence an astrologer should also search

for another cross-reference before reaching any conclusion. That is why I think,

there are faint chances that the records of all three children (unearthed by

NDMC) in 2005, must be progeny of Musharrf-ud-din (father of Pervez Musharraf);

unless other sources and factors support it.

 

Secondly, for the correction of your record and members’ information:Pervez

Musharraf HAS NO ELDER SISTER (as you presumed on the basis a news report). Her

mother has only three sons; Javed Musharraf (eldest), Pervez Musharraf (middle),

Naved Musharraf (youngest).  So relying blindly on incomplete news may lead to

wrong inference about any fact. If New Delhi Municipal Corporation (NDMC) found

that a baby girl (daughter of a person named, Musharraf-ud-din) was born on July

19, 1941. Then it does not conclude that she must be the eldest sister of Pervez

Musharraf (as you speculated). Just think a while, how many people having name

Musharraf in Delhi, and how many might have their children born in 1940s.

Lastly, can it be surely said that Municipal Corporation of an Indian

metropolitan has the correct birth records of all children.

 

In my humble opinion, the birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf is

11-August-1942, 3:19 PM, +5:30 GMT, as provided by president himself, and the

time birth was endorsed by his mother (Begum Zarin Musharraf).

 

Well, there is another acid test to confirm a chart. That is, to tally all major

life events with available charts and reaching to a best possible solution. I

did this tallying long before and found 11-August-1942 quite satisfactory. But

this doesn’t mean that I am definitely right. I may be wrong.

Nothing is absolute in this world.

 

With Regards,

M. Imran

 

24-August-2008

Karachi

 

 

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

 

Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937

Re: Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of

Pakistan....................

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

Cc: vedic astrology , " sohamsa " <sohamsa >,

astroimran

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:27 PM

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,

When Gen, Musharraf visited India , the news reports in Delhi papers at that

time, indicated :

Musharraf had elder sister ( date of birth-July 19,1941) and elder brother

(August 11,1942). This

information , I have noted in my diary. I am thus giving you the information as

noted by me and not

based on my memory.

Musarraf should have born in 1943  or in any subsequent year.

Papers also indicated that probably his date of birth is July22,1945 at 2.31

AM(WAR TIME OR IST ?).

 Mr. Imran has taken the birth date of  his elder brother . Imran should

verify the birth details of his

elder sister and brother and official birth date of Gen. Musharraf ., this will

help to reach on reliable birth data.

In north India , it was a common practice   in those troubled times to declare

birth dates to gain admission in schools .And some times there was a wide

diference in actual and real birth dated.

If we consider  THAT the news paper reports might had some basis , kindy give a

thought on these birth details:

  July 22, 1945 at 2.34.42 IST Delhi India, Ayanamsa 23-04-51-    True Nodes

are adopted

Lagna is Taurus with Mars and Venus.AMT karka and 10HL Saturn with Rahu in 2H

giving inflated

political ambition.(compare Moon and Venus in 2H of Vajpeeji and Mars and Moon

in 2H OF Modi)

In D-10 CHART, Leo is rising with Sun in 9H in Aries,all the angular houses are

occupied.

He became army chief on Oct10,1945 in Mars /Mercury/Venus( Mercury is Marka lord

also).

He BECAME RESIDENT ON 12-10-1999 IN Rahu/Rahu/Rahu ( AGAIN RAHU IS MARKA

PLANET).

HE RESIGNED ON 18-8-2008  in Rahu/Merc/Venus (Rahu and Mercury  are Marka

planets and Venus is the

Lord of 6H and with Mars which is 12HL)Saturn is transiting  over Mercury and

aspecting Venus.Jupiter in

transit in 8H ENSURED peaceful and orderly exit.

Laghu Parasari's Sloka 33 says: If Rajyoga starts in the sub-period of Marka

planet,Such Rajyoga

gets strengthened in subsequent sub-period of malefic planets,-This dicta works

very well in this nativity (parallel

case was P V NARSHIMHA RAO EX PM OF INDIA)

I have given the above analysis in brief. Savants may give their comments in

details.

Regards

 

 

 

 G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

 

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandey

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

Friday, 22 August, 2008 10:41:58 PM

[ind. & West. Astrology] Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of

Pakistan....................

 

 

Shri K N Rao Ji has made very correct statement in his article

related to Mr. Musharaf i.e:-

 

" I told my students that I will prefer Venus in the eighth house in

Mithun a and therefore could predict that he would be deserted by

many and feel disgraced and forlorn as he is today. "

 

Now If Ve will go to 8'th house than Ve will become AK and there

would be shifting for all chara karakas.

 

And Ma will become GK and Me will become DK. DK is responsible for

the way by which you are earning money and it is in same house where

Ma is sitting so he was related to Army Job.

 

(Ma, Me and Ra are in 10’th house and also 7’th to AL,, so major

event of his life clicked through job but related to his enemies,,

but whatever wrong deeds he has done he has to pay as Ju is not in

quadrant to La and AL)

 

Now see one thing his GK is debilitated in D-9 and also in sixth

house with Ra(Mr. K N Rao has rectified his chart very

brilliantly) .Ma is also Lagna lord.I have written that if La lord is

debilitated in D-9 than it can make amazing personality basically

leaders with whom normal public can not live.

 

Now see when Ma VMD started than Ra which is close to Ma should show

its effect as they are in close yuti and Ra I take more malefic than

Ra,, so most malefic results had to come. Ra is evil and also Karaka

of political machination. So he did coup (why coup and why he

succeeded because Ma as GK is debilitated in D-9 being in 6'th house

in D-9 with Ra).

 

Now see what is the use of Me. Me is his DK, so he was general (as

Ma is also in 10'th house) and did coup to come to political power.

 

So Mr. K N Rao is saying right that Ve should be in 8'th house.

 

And there is no doubt that 1942 DOB birth is correct.

 

One more thing,, i doubt that he has hand behind Benazir's

assassination. I can not write as it is very serious issue. You can

easily get the clue how i am saying this.

 

Please check it with AL which is in his 4'th house and Ra is lord of

AL and Ra and Ma with Me are 7’th to AL. And Ra VMD is running now

Ma will show its effect(Ma is karaka of violence and murderous

activity).

 

If he makes his own political party in Pakistan and tries to come to

power than no doubt there could be hand of Musharaf behind Benazir's

assassination.

 

Ra is really devil and it produce criminal if it is not AK or AMK.

Sa please save us from Ra.

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

 

P.S.:- I am leaving somewhere as my Ke Ad(which is in 9’th house in

the Aq rashi) is going to be started so where I would be going,,

definitely to any camp related to spiritualism.

 

Happy Janmastami to all members.

 

 

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Dear Mr. Imran,

I have given you the data as appeared in news papers This is also confirmed

by the two references of news items given by you.As these news reports were neither conclusive

or confirmatory, that is why I requested you to verify the facts.

 

In case , you have obtained the birth details from the native himself and also got the confirmation

from his mother, we will work on the birth data provided by you.

Many thanks for all the trouble you have taken to provide all of us correct details.

Regards,

G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

 

M. Imran <astroimranGopal Goel <gkgoel1937Cc: SJV Group <vedic astrology >; Sohamsa <sohamsa >Sunday, 24 August, 2008 2:33:05 AMRe: Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan (correction)

 

 

 

Dear Gopal Goel,I read your message with interest. But it is difficult to agree with the birth details of Pervez Musharraf, you brought into light. Which according to you, is 22-July-1945 (2:31 AM). As far as I've heard, during Musharraf's visit to India (2005), it was unveiled that he was not born on 11-August 1943. Among various newspapers (see the daily HINDU of 18-April-2005) here are few relevant links;http://www.hindu.com/2005/04/18/stories/2005041802952000.htmhttp://www.rediff.com/news/2005/apr/15mush2.htmHere one should keep in mind that hospital records in sub-continents hardly possess name of the native. But names of father and paternal grandfather are generally found in hospital records or maternity certificates. Unfortunately, referred news-links, do not indicate grandfather name of Pervez Musharraf (i.e. Syed Sharfuddin). Moreover, at that time (before partition of India) it was not obligatory

to mention national identity card, ration card or social security card number in birth records of children. Hence an astrologer should also search for another cross-reference before reaching any conclusion. That is why I think, there are faint chances that the records of all three children (unearthed by NDMC) in 2005, must be progeny of Musharrf-ud-din (father of Pervez Musharraf); unless other sources and factors support it. Secondly, for the correction of your record and members’ information: Pervez Musharraf HAS NO ELDER SISTER (as you presumed on the basis a news report). Her mother has only three sons; Javed Musharraf (eldest), Pervez Musharraf (middle), Naved Musharraf (youngest). So relying blindly on incomplete news may lead to wrong inference about any fact. If New Delhi Municipal Corporation (NDMC) found that a baby girl (daughter of a person named, Musharraf-ud-din) was born on July

19, 1941. Then it does not conclude that she must be the eldest sister of Pervez Musharraf (as you speculated). Just think a while, how many people having name Musharraf in Delhi, and how many might have their children born in 1940s. Lastly, can it be surely said that Municipal Corporation of an Indian metropolitan has the correct birth records of all children. In my humble opinion, the birth detail of former president Pervez Musharraf is 11-August-1942, 3:19 PM, +5:30 GMT, as provided by president himself, and the time birth was endorsed by his mother (Begum Zarin Musharraf). Well, there is another acid test to confirm a chart. That is, to tally all major life events with available charts and reaching to a best possible solution. I did this tallying long before and found 11-August-1942 quite satisfactory. But this doesn’t mean that I am definitely right. I may be wrong. Nothing is absolute in this world.With Regards,M.

Imran24-August-2008Karachi--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937Re: Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan....................Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Cc: vedic astrology , "sohamsa" <sohamsa >, astroimranDate: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:27 PM

 

 

 

Dear Pandey ji,

When Gen, Musharraf visited India , the news reports in Delhi papers at that time, indicated :

Musharraf had elder sister ( date of birth-July 19,1941) and elder brother (August 11,1942). This

information , I have noted in my diary. I am thus giving you the information as noted by me and not

based on my memory.

Musarraf should have born in 1943 or in any subsequent year.

Papers also indicated that probably his date of birth is July22,1945 at 2.31 AM(WAR TIME OR IST ?).

Mr. Imran has taken the birth date of his elder brother . Imran should verify the birth details of his

elder sister and brother and official birth date of Gen. Musharraf ., this will help to reach on reliable birth data.

In north India , it was a common practice in those troubled times to declare birth dates to gain admission in schools .And some times there was a wide diference in actual and real birth dated.

If we consider THAT the news paper reports might had some basis , kindy give a thought on these birth details:

July 22, 1945 at 2.34.42 IST Delhi India, Ayanamsa 23-04-51- True Nodes are adopted

Lagna is Taurus with Mars and Venus.AMT karka and 10HL Saturn with Rahu in 2H giving inflated

political ambition.(compare Moon and Venus in 2H of Vajpeeji and Mars and Moon in 2H OF Modi)

In D-10 CHART, Leo is rising with Sun in 9H in Aries,all the angular houses are occupied.

He became army chief on Oct10,1945 in Mars /Mercury/Venus( Mercury is Marka lord also).

He BECAME RESIDENT ON 12-10-1999 IN Rahu/Rahu/Rahu ( AGAIN RAHU IS MARKA PLANET).

HE RESIGNED ON 18-8-2008 in Rahu/Merc/Venus (Rahu and Mercury are Marka planets and Venus is the

Lord of 6H and with Mars which is 12HL)Saturn is transiting over Mercury and aspecting Venus.Jupiter in

transit in 8H ENSURED peaceful and orderly exit.

Laghu Parasari's Sloka 33 says: If Rajyoga starts in the sub-period of Marka planet,Such Rajyoga

gets strengthened in subsequent sub-period of malefic planets,-This dicta works very well in this nativity (parallel

case was P V NARSHIMHA RAO EX PM OF INDIA)

I have given the above analysis in brief. Savants may give their comments in details.

Regards

 

 

 

G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandeyIndian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Sent: Friday, 22 August, 2008 10:41:58 PM[ind. & West. Astrology] Mr. Musharaf's Rise to Highest Position of Pakistan....................

 

Shri K N Rao Ji has made very correct statement in his article related to Mr. Musharaf i.e:-"I told my students that I will prefer Venus in the eighth house inMithun a and therefore could predict that he would be deserted bymany and feel disgraced and forlorn as he is today. "Now If Ve will go to 8'th house than Ve will become AK and there would be shifting for all chara karakas.And Ma will become GK and Me will become DK. DK is responsible for the way by which you are earning money and it is in same house where Ma is sitting so he was related to Army Job.(Ma, Me and Ra are in 10’th house and also 7’th to AL,, so major event of his life clicked through job but related to his enemies,, but whatever wrong deeds he has done he has to pay as Ju is not in quadrant to La and AL)Now see one thing his GK is debilitated in D-9 and also in sixth house with Ra(Mr. K N

Rao has rectified his chart very brilliantly) .Ma is also Lagna lord.I have written that if La lord is debilitated in D-9 than it can make amazing personality basically leaders with whom normal public can not live.Now see when Ma VMD started than Ra which is close to Ma should show its effect as they are in close yuti and Ra I take more malefic than Ra,, so most malefic results had to come. Ra is evil and also Karaka of political machination. So he did coup (why coup and why he succeeded because Ma as GK is debilitated in D-9 being in 6'th house in D-9 with Ra).Now see what is the use of Me. Me is his DK, so he was general (as Ma is also in 10'th house) and did coup to come to political power.So Mr. K N Rao is saying right that Ve should be in 8'th house.And there is no doubt that 1942 DOB birth is correct.One more thing,, i doubt that he has hand behind Benazir's

assassination. I can not write as it is very serious issue. You can easily get the clue how i am saying this.Please check it with AL which is in his 4'th house and Ra is lord of AL and Ra and Ma with Me are 7’th to AL. And Ra VMD is running now Ma will show its effect(Ma is karaka of violence and murderous activity). If he makes his own political party in Pakistan and tries to come to power than no doubt there could be hand of Musharaf behind Benazir's assassination.Ra is really devil and it produce criminal if it is not AK or AMK. Sa please save us from Ra.Regs,Prashant PandeyP.S.:- I am leaving somewhere as my Ke Ad(which is in 9’th house in the Aq rashi) is going to be started so where I would be going,, definitely to any camp related to spiritualism.Happy Janmastami to all members.

 

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