I am banned -vijayaraghavan -i win too

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dear astrolovers

 

( dear moderater pls allow this post in interest a gr8 tradition and

astrology and no personal attack intented except meeting some of

challeges posed by some internet frauds )

 

I am banned frm the forums of avatar krishna kaul ( AKK ) and sanat

jain who says astrology is fraud and astrologers r frads and charlattans

they humiliate rishis and paramparas ,so i questioned them on logical

grounds for last 15 Plus days and they were groping in dark ,but i am

happy i achieved my mission of opening their mask and showing to the

world that this r some elements funded by evangelic xian organisations

who wanted destroy all systms and practises of hindus so as to convert

them ,only in world they failed in india even after 200 yrs of pumping

milions and millions of dollars ,so now they r aiming at astrology as

they know now english education and general non awareness of hindus and

their selfishness already paved way for deterioration in astrology(

including veda ,mantras and even anything related to religion ) and

thinks this is right opportunity ,other wise even British east india

company sponsored max muller etc who later become lovers of hindu

scriptures and philosophy after coming to know abt it ,even after taking

large amnts as sponsorship and they were assigned to find way to destroy

hindu culture .But now our own carelessness is contributing for the

cause .

 

so pls read my reply posted in their grp after they banned me and i am

still ready to meet their challenges if they meet my requiremnts

 

here is my post in their grp after they ban me ( in another id )

 

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dear grp .

 

 

 

I joined this grp because i hav seen since yrs this ppl uses vedic

astrologers and blvers as a tool to accomplish their aim which is hidden

,deliberate ,willfull agenda and no way they r ready to accept any thing

except their line of arguemnts ,what ever u write will b sidelined to

suit their discussion .

 

 

 

for exmple when i wrote abt the exprnce of sir woodraw wyath( he got

predictions frm some raja jyothishi while he was a young man and all

came true upto every word ) he ( AKK -avatar krishna kaul ) was quoting

some report came in TV that some lunatic man who claimed as astrologer (

it was proved too later ) predicted some thing and gone wrong ( think

india with 60 plus yrs after independence he cud quote one instance with

1 billion ppl ) .

 

 

 

and they know the errosion in astology and lack of learning classics in

old style and disappearance of gurukulas and even non teaching of

sankrit has contributed gr8er misunderstanding and various schools also

sprung up claiming various theoreys ( but they says all astro is fraud

as no astrologer answerd them ) And says they stands for vedic culture

in hindus .

 

 

 

but all this dont justifys their stand .because they r not working for

resurrection of astrology or even vedas ,did they strt training vedic

pundits for future ,NO will ask u did u read vedas and wat ever u say

will b twisted with some other excuses what they may find fit for them .

 

 

 

Now think how this frauds one who claims science in everything and

another calender fraud co joined ??wat may b reason ??did they come with

same plan some hidden agenda ??means they r recruits of same mission

,one says he is happy when calender is redesigned to suit his lunatic

mind ( he says according to vedas ) and other says if we can show

scintific proof in dictums he is happy and invited 1 yr old kids and

asking all this where as they claims +35 yrs or 50 yrs in vedic

astrology .

 

 

 

so i asked them to show me in charts which will b selected and posted by

me ,where it fails first

 

because if A=B then B shud b equal to A too simple mathematical

scintific arguement right ??

 

 

 

on this science grounding i asked them too show it ,but they r not ready

to show or nor interested ( because only agenda is to destroy some how

vedic astrology ) ,where as they humilated every one in the name of

astrology with sugar coated pills ,off cource uses good laungage too

call u fraud where as i dont spare my time and i call directly . ( even

i told them still repeating if u dont follow guidelines of discussions i

will do it again ) because who ever they call fraud or mlecha are rishis

i feel they r my pitrus even .My gotra pitamaha 's

 

 

 

many r invited here and they guillettined ,one LY rao,he said he used

prashna for short period and said some RP planet will show the result

,any fool will understand the prashna is for purticular thing ,or

question and appliacble only to a certain period ,but this fake ids r

coming in like a pack of wolfs to attack that gentle man and asking so

RP planet will show everytime ,did they show courtesy to see in actual

grounds ,Big no ,so much is their scientifc thinking

 

 

 

even i asked to this AKK to answer me .

 

 

 

what is the use of ur calendar

 

1 ) show me why we shud use Muhurta as u say it is in vedic astrology

,if it is not predictiv ??( predictiv gimmick )

 

2) why we shud use festival which u say as vedas r not devine or not

even old as some one claims and its according to christian geneology

word has happened just 4300 b4 or so yrs b4 ,so he cannot accpet it

 

3) also i asked him let us discuss vedas and his understanding

 

4) can it b used for atleast for agriculture ??as farmers wanted to know

when will b rain next time ,as the njattu vela calenders used in kerala

shows .

 

 

 

so what was is the aim this 2 frauds .

 

 

 

then says they blv in karma theorey as krishna said

 

does we say we dont blv in karma theory but this adage by them is total

bull shit as karma theory itself saying abt immortality of soulsand

rebirths and its missions and destiny ,if u blv so then wat proof they

want s to see its efficacy where as they blv one life theory like

christians ,so working for them ,just do any thing to achieve ur mission

..eat drink be merry as there is only one life ,kill any one ,sell u r

mom even to acheive ur goal .

 

 

 

other wise let them explain how and why some one is born blind with

their karma theory ?? if it is removable by ur own efforts let them

teach us .dear grp pls think may b none of u can become a bill gates or

even warren buffet even if u try 24x7 without even sleeping ,ask them to

proov all this

 

 

 

they r gr8 cheaters and traiters of hindu ,hindustan

 

identify them and try to bannish them frm this soil as they sell their

own mother for few dollars

 

 

 

regrds your vijayaraghavan ,

 

 

 

ps -sanat and AKK if u r ready i am going to stay here till u ban me

again or delet ur grp and ask forgivance ,now i am determined .