[Ind. & West. Astrology] cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

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Dear Prasant,

What you are talking is according to nadi astrology,

it is another issue that it may have not occurred to you.

 

  Kindly remember that SIDEREAL SIGNS WERE

CREATED BASED ON NAKSHATRA PADAS (and there

after Tropical signs were also assign es similar nomenclature).

 

If  two/ or more  planets on same Zodiacal degree  are in their respective

signs,

Then Char Karka replacement occurs.

Let see what happens  if they are in same degree in any two naksharta,

this means that two planets moved equal arcs from the initial point of

respective

Nakshatras.This situation leads two following orientations:

1. Such planets will always be in trine two each other in Navamsa charts.

2. If Ruling dasa lord of these Nakshatras are same as  in Vimsottari dasa,

  such planets will be conjunct in Navamsa chart.

The Char Karkatwa of a planet will be decided by the placement of planets

in zodiac signs only, but at the time if these planets will cover equal arc in

their respective

nakshatra , their effect will be very , I repeat , very prenouched besides the

complications arising out of  following two situations , on account of trinal

placement in Navamsa chart.

 a, The char karka which has traversed max. arc in same degree ,will get

     an assistant to perform its duties as 'upkheta'

b. The planet on same degree , but traversed lesser arc , will lose its role 

    as charkarka and will be replaced by Sthir Karka.

Thus role of Naksharra placement is immense but needs to be assessed in proper

prospective.

Regads,

  

G.K.GOEL

 

 

 

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandey

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 10:51:20 PM

[ind. & West. Astrology] Re: cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

 

 

Dear Sir,

You dont feel that we should get the charakarka according

to Lunar Mansions instead of Rashi.

 

I am cross-checking on some of the charts and i am getting good

breakthrough on this concept.I know that whatever i am saying,,it is

not according to our scriptures but dont know how this new concept

is giving good response.You also please verify it and please tell me

that am i right or not??

 

I think you have alot charts and alot experience so you can easily

tell about this concept.

 

Even in my case it is working.I and my friends feel(because ppl who

listen us can better give feed back) that i am influenced by Su

instead of Ve.

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

 

My details:-

11'th May 1979

08:09AM

Varanasi(India)

 

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal

Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear  Friends,

> I humbly mention that Mr Narshiman has not understood the meaning

> of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter or spirit:

> Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and Principal of most

famous

> Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give below the

translation given by

> him :

> First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman

> This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10

> Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable , only it is to

be decided as to which scheme will apply in which situation.

> Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it properly , as such

his inferences

> needs to be examined with care and can not be accepted strait away.

> Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha:

> " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char karka scheme ,

when two karka 's

> are on same degree ,   in such a situation Rahu is to be

considered , and other say

> that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be considered

INDEPENDENTLY "

>

> BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY MANNER.

>  

> This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka scheme.

> Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is merged in matru

karka (obiously in

> seven char karka scheme). This means that seven char karka scheme

is applicable

> in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living being.

> Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char karka including

Putra karka.

> It also specify the rules for replacement of char karka by sthir

Karkas.

> A careful study of this chapter reveals that in case of char

karka  REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme , first replacement

will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and decite.

> Bphs further says that out of three constituents of Mahraja yoga ,

one is provided by

> the conjuction of AK ans PUTK.

> As progeny is only possible in the case of living

> being , eight karka scheme is applicable for living being only.

>

> SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE CHARTS.

> Regards,

>

>

>

>  G.K.GOEL

> Ph: 09350311433

> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> NEW DELHI-110 076

> INDIA

>

>

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Dear Prasant,

What you are talking is according to nadi astrology,

it is another issue that it may have not occurred to you.

 

Kindly remember that SIDEREAL SIGNS WERE

CREATED BASED ON NAKSHATRA PADAS (and there

after Tropical signs were also assign es similar nomenclature).

 

If two/ or more planets on same Zodiacal degree are in their respective signs,

Then Char Karka replacement occurs.

Let see what happens if they are in same degree in any two naksharta,

this means that two planets moved equal arcs from the initial point of respective

Nakshatras.This situation leads two following orientations:

1. Such planets will always be in trine two each other in Navamsa charts.

2. If Ruling dasa lord of these Nakshatras are same as in Vimsottari dasa,

such planets will be conjunct in Navamsa chart.

The Char Karkatwa of a planet will be decided by the placement of planets in zodiac signs only, but at the time if these planets will cover equal arc in their respective

nakshatra , their effect will be very , I repeat , very prenouched besides the

complications arising out of following two situations , on account of trinal

placement in Navamsa chart.

a, The char karka which has traversed max. arc in same degree ,will get

an assistant to perform its duties as 'upkheta'

b. The planet on same degree , but traversed lesser arc , will lose its role

as charkarka and will be replaced by Sthir Karka.

Thus role of Naksharra placement is immense but needs to be assessed in proper prospective.

Regads,

G.K.GOEL

 

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandeyIndian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 10:51:20 PM[ind. & West. Astrology] Re: cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

 

Dear Sir,You dont feel that we should get the charakarka according to Lunar Mansions instead of Rashi.I am cross-checking on some of the charts and i am getting good breakthrough on this concept.I know that whatever i am saying,,it is not according to our scriptures but dont know how this new concept is giving good response.You also please verify it and please tell me that am i right or not??I think you have alot charts and alot experience so you can easily tell about this concept.Even in my case it is working.I and my friends feel(because ppl who listen us can better give feed back) that i am influenced by Su instead of Ve.Regs,Prashant PandeyMy details:-11'th May 197908:09AMVaranasi(India)Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:>> Dear  Friends,> I humbly mention that Mr Narshiman has not understood the meaning > of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter or spirit:> Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and Principal of most famous> Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give below the translation given by> him :> First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman> This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10> Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable , only it is to be decided as to which scheme will apply in which situation.> Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it properly , as such his inferences > needs to be examined with care and can not

be accepted strait away.> Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha:> " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char karka scheme , when two karka 's > are on same degree ,  in such a situation Rahu is to be considered , and other say> that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be considered INDEPENDENTLY"> > BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY MANNER.>  > This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka scheme.> Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is merged in matru karka (obiously in> seven char karka scheme). This means that seven char karka scheme is applicable> in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living being.> Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char karka including Putra karka.> It also specify the rules for replacement of char karka by sthir

Karkas.> A careful study of this chapter reveals that in case of char karka REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme , first replacement will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and decite.> Bphs further says that out of three constituents of Mahraja yoga , one is provided by > the conjuction of AK ans PUTK. > As progeny is only possible in the case of living > being , eight karka scheme is applicable for living being only.> > SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE CHARTS.> Regards,> > > >  G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. /

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Mr. Goel,

These are very important points,

people forget about the nakshatra

differences.

Im working my way through Sanjays new nakshatra book

and it is opening my eyes to the many uses of

nakshatras.

thanks for your contributions

best wishes

Lakshmi

 

--- Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:

 

> Dear Prasant,

> What you are talking is according to nadi astrology,

> it is another issue that it may have not occurred to

> you.

>  

>   Kindly remember that SIDEREAL SIGNS WERE

> CREATED BASED ON NAKSHATRA PADAS (and there

> after Tropical signs were also assign es similar

> nomenclature).

>  

> If  two/ or more  planets on same Zodiacal degree 

> are in their respective signs,

> Then Char Karka replacement occurs.

> Let see what happens  if they are in same degree in

> any two naksharta,

> this means that two planets moved equal arcs from

> the initial point of respective

> Nakshatras.This situation leads two following

> orientations:

> 1. Such planets will always be in trine two each

> other in Navamsa charts.

> 2. If Ruling dasa lord of these Nakshatras are same

> as  in Vimsottari dasa,

>   such planets will be conjunct in Navamsa chart.

> The Char Karkatwa of a planet will be decided by the

> placement of planets in zodiac signs only, but at

> the time if these planets will cover equal arc in

> their respective

> nakshatra , their effect will be very , I repeat ,

> very prenouched besides the

> complications arising out of  following two

> situations , on account of trinal

> placement in Navamsa chart.

>  a, The char karka which has traversed max. arc in

> same degree ,will get

>      an assistant to perform its duties as 'upkheta'

> b. The planet on same degree , but traversed lesser

> arc , will lose its role 

>     as charkarka and will be replaced by Sthir

> Karka.

> Thus role of Naksharra placement is immense but

> needs to be assessed in proper prospective.

> Regads,

>   

> G.K.GOEL

>

>

>

>

> Prashant Pandey <praspandey

> To:

> Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

> Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 10:51:20 PM

> [ind. & West. Astrology] Re: cHAR kARKA 7

> OR/AND 8

>

>

> Dear Sir,

> You dont feel that we should get the charakarka

> according

> to Lunar Mansions instead of Rashi.

>

> I am cross-checking on some of the charts and i am

> getting good

> breakthrough on this concept.I know that whatever i

> am saying,,it is

> not according to our scriptures but dont know how

> this new concept

> is giving good response.You also please verify it

> and please tell me

> that am i right or not??

>

> I think you have alot charts and alot experience so

> you can easily

> tell about this concept.

>

> Even in my case it is working.I and my friends

> feel(because ppl who

> listen us can better give feed back) that i am

> influenced by Su

> instead of Ve.

>

> Regs,

> Prashant Pandey

>

> My details:-

> 11'th May 1979

> 08:09AM

> Varanasi(India)

>

> Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_

> Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal

> Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear  Friends,

> > I humbly mention that Mr Narshiman has not

> understood the meaning

> > of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter

> or spirit:

> > Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and

> Principal of most

> famous

> > Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give

> below the

> translation given by

> > him :

> > First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman

> > This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10

> > Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable

> , only it is to

> be decided as to which scheme will apply in which

> situation.

> > Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it

> properly , as such

> his inferences

> > needs to be examined with care and can not be

> accepted strait away.

> > Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha:

> > " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char

> karka scheme ,

> when two karka 's

> > are on same degree ,   in such a situation Rahu

> is to be

> considered , and other say

> > that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be

> considered

> INDEPENDENTLY "

> >

> > BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY

> MANNER.

> >  

> > This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka

> scheme.

> > Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is

> merged in matru

> karka (obiously in

> > seven char karka scheme). This means that seven

> char karka scheme

> is applicable

> > in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living

> being.

> > Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char

> karka including

> Putra karka.

> > It also specify the rules for replacement of char

> karka by sthir

> Karkas.

> > A careful study of this chapter reveals that in

> case of char

> karka  REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme ,

> first replacement

> will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and

> decite.

> > Bphs further says that out of three constituents

> of Mahraja yoga ,

> one is provided by

> > the conjuction of AK ans PUTK.

> > As progeny is only possible in the case of living

> > being , eight karka scheme is applicable for

> living being only.

> >

> > SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE

> CHARTS.

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> >  G.K.GOEL

> > Ph: 09350311433

> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > INDIA

> >

> >

> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go

> to

> http://messenger. / invite/

> >

>

>

>

>

> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy!

> Go to http://messenger./invite/