[Ind. & West. Astrology] cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant Pandey ji,

You observations are correct , but in my opinion ,

the role of zodiacal Nakashatra's and sign's are distinctly different and

there should be no confusion about it .Let us try to understand it

in simplest possible language:

1. Signs

  -These are created by Sun (Atman) and each sign represented by

   twelve Adtiya's.

 -Whenever any planet is placed in a sign indicate the resource , which is

  available in the native's life. 

- What are Char Karka's ?They are also indicative of a kind of resource

  which is  available in the form of other Jiva's (living being ). eg AK-Self

,

  Amk - adviser who helps the native in its carrier and profession , and

 so on.

- Thus char karka is seen based on the longitude of planets in their respective

    signs of their placement -whose  ultimate controller is Sun - the Atman.

   (Char Karka are controlled by Sun  and NOT MOON)

 

2.NAKSHATRA'S

  -These are the abodes of Moon , as you are aware , Moon takes about 27.323

days

     to revolve round the Earth , 27(or 28) Nakshatras are adopted .

-What is the role of Nakshatras ? Moon being Karka of Manaha- is mainly

  responsible to utilise the available resources  for worldly pleasures

   or put to use for the benefit of all humanity or to gain power and

authority

   and so on.

 - As such arc traversed by planets in their respective Nakshatras will

definitely

   indicate powerful results , one can even visualise on the lines of char

karkas, ( but

   they should not  be called char karka to avoid confusion. Char Karka 's

  are defined in a particular manner for a specific purpose ). You have to

invent

  different terminology  , as advancement of a planet in a Nakshatra gives

entirely

  different massage for different purpose.

You continue with your research , we will extend all help.

Regards,

 

G.K.GOEL

 

 

 

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandey

Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest

Saturday, 18 October, 2008 1:07:46 AM

[ind. & West. Astrology] cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

 

 

Dear Sir,

I have cross checked on 100 of charts of prominent

personalities of difft fields and it is giving clear-cut indication

that Rashi Chara-karaka is wrong and Nks chara-karaka is correct.

 

I will show you final results. But before reaching final conclusion

i need help of Mr. Revati as i think he has tremendous God gifted

talent to give proper direction to new creativities and new

findings. He is not less then Mr. Pablo Picasso. I will also consult

with him then i will reach you to take final stamp from you for this

finding.

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

 

P.S.:- I have found many things in astrology (Those are not

translations of scriptures)and those are based on very very simple

common-sense but i can not write in mails. I will write in books

with the help of Mr. Revati.

 

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal

Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Prasant,

> What you are talking is according to nadi astrology,

> it is another issue that it may have not occurred to you.

>  

>   Kindly remember that SIDEREAL SIGNS WERE

> CREATED BASED ON NAKSHATRA PADAS (and there

> after Tropical signs were also assign es similar nomenclature) .

>  

> If  two/ or more  planets on same Zodiacal degree  are in their

respective signs,

> Then Char Karka replacement occurs.

> Let see what happens  if they are in same degree in any two

naksharta,

> this means that two planets moved equal arcs from the initial

point of respective

> Nakshatras.This situation leads two following orientations:

> 1. Such planets will always be in trine two each other in Navamsa

charts.

> 2. If Ruling dasa lord of these Nakshatras are same as  in

Vimsottari dasa,

>   such planets will be conjunct in Navamsa chart.

> The Char Karkatwa of a planet will be decided by the placement of

planets in zodiac signs only, but at the time if these planets will

cover equal arc in their respective

> nakshatra , their effect will be very , I repeat , very prenouched

besides the

> complications arising out of  following two situations , on

account of trinal

> placement in Navamsa chart.

>  a, The char karka which has traversed max. arc in same

degree ,will get

>      an assistant to perform its duties as 'upkheta'

> b. The planet on same degree , but traversed lesser arc , will

lose its role 

>     as charkarka and will be replaced by Sthir Karka.

> Thus role of Naksharra placement is immense but needs to be

assessed in proper prospective.

> Regads,

>   

> G.K.GOEL

>

>

>

>

> Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ ...>

> Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com

> Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 10:51:20 PM

> [ind. & West. Astrology] Re: cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

>

>

> Dear Sir,

> You dont feel that we should get the charakarka according

> to Lunar Mansions instead of Rashi.

>

> I am cross-checking on some of the charts and i am getting good

> breakthrough on this concept.I know that whatever i am saying,,it

is

> not according to our scriptures but dont know how this new concept

> is giving good response.You also please verify it and please tell

me

> that am i right or not??

>

> I think you have alot charts and alot experience so you can easily

> tell about this concept.

>

> Even in my case it is working.I and my friends feel(because ppl

who

> listen us can better give feed back) that i am influenced by Su

> instead of Ve.

>

> Regs,

> Prashant Pandey

>

> My details:-

> 11'th May 1979

> 08:09AM

> Varanasi(India)

>

> Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com,

Gopal

> Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear  Friends,

> > I humbly mention that Mr Narshiman has not understood the

meaning

> > of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter or spirit:

> > Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and Principal of most

> famous

> > Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give below the

> translation given by

> > him :

> > First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman

> > This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10

> > Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable , only it is

to

> be decided as to which scheme will apply in which situation.

> > Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it properly , as

such

> his inferences

> > needs to be examined with care and can not be accepted strait

away.

> > Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha:

> > " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char karka

scheme ,

> when two karka 's

> > are on same degree ,   in such a situation Rahu is to be

> considered , and other say

> > that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be considered

> INDEPENDENTLY "

> >

> > BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY MANNER.

> >  

> > This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka scheme.

> > Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is merged in matru

> karka (obiously in

> > seven char karka scheme). This means that seven char karka

scheme

> is applicable

> > in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living being.

> > Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char karka including

> Putra karka.

> > It also specify the rules for replacement of char karka by sthir

> Karkas.

> > A careful study of this chapter reveals that in case of char

> karka  REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme , first replacement

> will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and decite.

> > Bphs further says that out of three constituents of Mahraja

yoga ,

> one is provided by

> > the conjuction of AK ans PUTK.

> > As progeny is only possible in the case of living

> > being , eight karka scheme is applicable for living being only.

> >

> > SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE CHARTS.

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> >  G.K.GOEL

> > Ph: 09350311433

> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> > NEW DELHI-110 076

> > INDIA

> >

> >

> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> http://messenger. / invite/

> >

>

>

>

>

> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

http://messenger. / invite/

>

 

 

 

Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download

Now! http://messenger./download.php

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Prashant Pandey ji,

You observations are correct , but in my opinion ,

the role of zodiacal Nakashatra's and sign's are distinctly different and

there should be no confusion about it .Let us try to understand it

in simplest possible language:

1. Signs

-These are created by Sun (Atman) and each sign represented by

twelve Adtiya's.

-Whenever any planet is placed in a sign indicate the resource , which is

available in the native's life.

- What are Char Karka's ?They are also indicative of a kind of resource

which is available in the form of other Jiva's (living being ). eg AK-Self ,

Amk - adviser who helps the native in its carrier and profession , and

so on.

- Thus char karka is seen based on the longitude of planets in their respective

signs of their placement -whose ultimate controller is Sun - the Atman.

(Char Karka are controlled by Sun and NOT MOON)

 

2.NAKSHATRA'S

-These are the abodes of Moon , as you are aware , Moon takes about 27.323 days

to revolve round the Earth , 27(or 28) Nakshatras are adopted .

-What is the role of Nakshatras ? Moon being Karka of Manaha- is mainly

responsible to utilise the available resources for worldly pleasures

or put to use for the benefit of all humanity or to gain power and authority

and so on.

- As such arc traversed by planets in their respective Nakshatras will definitely

indicate powerful results , one can even visualise on the lines of char karkas, ( but

they should not be called char karka to avoid confusion. Char Karka 's

are defined in a particular manner for a specific purpose ). You have to invent

different terminology , as advancement of a planet in a Nakshatra gives entirely

different massage for different purpose.

You continue with your research , we will extend all help.

Regards,

 

G.K.GOEL

 

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandeyIndian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Sent: Saturday, 18 October, 2008 1:07:46 AM[ind. & West. Astrology] cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8

 

Dear Sir,I have cross checked on 100 of charts of prominent personalities of difft fields and it is giving clear-cut indication that Rashi Chara-karaka is wrong and Nks chara-karaka is correct.I will show you final results. But before reaching final conclusion i need help of Mr. Revati as i think he has tremendous God gifted talent to give proper direction to new creativities and new findings. He is not less then Mr. Pablo Picasso. I will also consult with him then i will reach you to take final stamp from you for this finding.Regs,Prashant PandeyP.S.:- I have found many things in astrology (Those are not translations of scriptures)and those are based on very very simple common-sense but i can not write in mails. I will write in books with the help of Mr. Revati.Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Prasant,> What you are talking is according to nadi astrology,> it is another issue that it may have not occurred to you.>  >   Kindly remember that SIDEREAL SIGNS WERE> CREATED BASED ON NAKSHATRA PADAS (and there> after Tropical signs were also assign es similar nomenclature) .>  > If  two/ or more  planets on same Zodiacal degree are in their respective signs,> Then Char Karka replacement occurs.> Let see what happens  if they are in same degree in any two naksharta,> this means that two planets moved equal arcs from the initial point of respective > Nakshatras.This situation leads two

following orientations:> 1. Such planets will always be in trine two each other in Navamsa charts.> 2. If Ruling dasa lord of these Nakshatras are same as  in Vimsottari dasa,>  such planets will be conjunct in Navamsa chart.> The Char Karkatwa of a planet will be decided by the placement of planets in zodiac signs only, but at the time if these planets will cover equal arc in their respective> nakshatra , their effect will be very , I repeat , very prenouched besides the > complications arising out of following two situations , on account of trinal > placement in Navamsa chart.>  a, The char karka which has traversed max. arc in same degree ,will get>     an assistant to perform its duties as 'upkheta'> b. The planet on same degree , but traversed lesser arc , will lose its

role >    as charkarka and will be replaced by Sthir Karka.> Thus role of Naksharra placement is immense but needs to be assessed in proper prospective.> Regads,>   > G.K.GOEL> > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ ...>> Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com> Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 10:51:20 PM> [ind. & West. Astrology] Re: cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8> > > Dear Sir,> You dont feel that we should get the charakarka according > to Lunar Mansions instead of Rashi.> > I am cross-checking on some of the charts and i am getting

good > breakthrough on this concept.I know that whatever i am saying,,it is > not according to our scriptures but dont know how this new concept > is giving good response.You also please verify it and please tell me > that am i right or not??> > I think you have alot charts and alot experience so you can easily > tell about this concept.> > Even in my case it is working.I and my friends feel(because ppl who > listen us can better give feed back) that i am influenced by Su > instead of Ve.> > Regs,> Prashant Pandey> > My details:-> 11'th May 1979> 08:09AM> Varanasi(India)> > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal > Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear  Friends,> > I humbly mention

that Mr Narshiman has not understood the meaning > > of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter or spirit:> > Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and Principal of most > famous> > Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give below the > translation given by> > him :> > First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman> > This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10> > Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable , only it is to > be decided as to which scheme will apply in which situation.> > Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it properly , as such > his inferences > > needs to be examined with care and can not be accepted strait away.> > Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha:> > " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char karka

scheme , > when two karka 's > > are on same degree ,  in such a situation Rahu is to be > considered , and other say> > that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be considered > INDEPENDENTLY"> > > > BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY MANNER.> >  > > This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka scheme.> > Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is merged in matru > karka (obiously in> > seven char karka scheme). This means that seven char karka scheme > is applicable> > in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living being.> > Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char karka including > Putra karka.> > It also specify the rules for replacement of char karka by sthir > Karkas.> > A careful study of this

chapter reveals that in case of char > karka REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme , first replacement > will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and decite.> > Bphs further says that out of three constituents of Mahraja yoga , > one is provided by > > the conjuction of AK ans PUTK. > > As progeny is only possible in the case of living > > being , eight karka scheme is applicable for living being only.> > > > SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE CHARTS.> > Regards,> > > > > > > >  G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/>Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php