Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Dear Goel ji Its crystal clear to us. Lets wait for Narasimha’s new thoughts in this regard. And as i have suggested he should come up with a serious paper as this is the only was such a serious subject can be altered in thought. For many years the world followed KN Rao 7 CK scheme and all my words fell on deaf ears till I wrote a 60 page paper and presented it in 3-4 conferences and then only did everyone wake up to the depth. You have also done a great job in delivering some very fine lectures in Delhi Thank you, but lets just wait and see what he has to say Regards Sanjay sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel 11 October 2008 21:20 sohamsa Cc: Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest ; vedic astrology cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8 Dear Friends, I humbly mention that Mr Narshiman has not understood the meaning of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter or spirit: Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and Principal of most famous Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give below the translation given by him : First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10 Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable , only it is to be decided as to which scheme will apply in which situation. Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it properly , as such his inferences needs to be examined with care and can not be accepted strait away. Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha: " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char karka scheme , when two karka 's are on same degree , in such a situation Rahu is to be considered , and other say that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be considered INDEPENDENTLY " BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY MANNER. This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka scheme. Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is merged in matru karka (obiously in seven char karka scheme). This means that seven char karka scheme is applicable in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living being. Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char karka including Putra karka. It also specify the rules for replacement of char karka by sthir Karkas. A careful study of this chapter reveals that in case of char karka REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme , first replacement will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and decite. Bphs further says that out of three constituents of Mahraja yoga , one is provided by the conjuction of AK ans PUTK. As progeny is only possible in the case of living being , eight karka scheme is applicable for living being only. SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE CHARTS. Regards, G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Read the following mail chain,,,quite interesting.  TC  Astrolearner --- On Fri, 17/10/08, Prashant Pandey <praspandey wrote: Prashant Pandey <praspandey [ind. & West. Astrology] cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8 Indian_Astrology_Group_Daily_Digest Friday, 17 October, 2008, 7:37 PM Dear Sir, I have cross checked on 100 of charts of prominent personalities of difft fields and it is giving clear-cut indication that Rashi Chara-karaka is wrong and Nks chara-karaka is correct. I will show you final results. But before reaching final conclusion i need help of Mr. Revati as i think he has tremendous God gifted talent to give proper direction to new creativities and new findings. He is not less then Mr. Pablo Picasso. I will also consult with him then i will reach you to take final stamp from you for this finding. Regs, Prashant Pandey P.S.:- I have found many things in astrology (Those are not translations of scriptures)and those are based on very very simple common-sense but i can not write in mails. I will write in books with the help of Mr. Revati. Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Prasant, > What you are talking is according to nadi astrology, > it is another issue that it may have not occurred to you. >  >   Kindly remember that SIDEREAL SIGNS WERE > CREATED BASED ON NAKSHATRA PADAS (and there > after Tropical signs were also assign es similar nomenclature) . >  > If  two/ or more  planets on same Zodiacal degree are in their respective signs, > Then Char Karka replacement occurs. > Let see what happens  if they are in same degree in any two naksharta, > this means that two planets moved equal arcs from the initial point of respective > Nakshatras.This situation leads two following orientations: > 1. Such planets will always be in trine two each other in Navamsa charts. > 2. If Ruling dasa lord of these Nakshatras are same as  in Vimsottari dasa, >  such planets will be conjunct in Navamsa chart. > The Char Karkatwa of a planet will be decided by the placement of planets in zodiac signs only, but at the time if these planets will cover equal arc in their respective > nakshatra , their effect will be very , I repeat , very prenouched besides the > complications arising out of following two situations , on account of trinal > placement in Navamsa chart. >  a, The char karka which has traversed max. arc in same degree ,will get >     an assistant to perform its duties as 'upkheta' > b. The planet on same degree , but traversed lesser arc , will lose its role >    as charkarka and will be replaced by Sthir Karka. > Thus role of Naksharra placement is immense but needs to be assessed in proper prospective. > Regads, >   > G.K.GOEL > > > > > Prashant Pandey <praspandey@ ...> > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com > Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 10:51:20 PM > [ind. & West. Astrology] Re: cHAR kARKA 7 OR/AND 8 > > > Dear Sir, > You dont feel that we should get the charakarka according > to Lunar Mansions instead of Rashi. > > I am cross-checking on some of the charts and i am getting good > breakthrough on this concept.I know that whatever i am saying,,it is > not according to our scriptures but dont know how this new concept > is giving good response.You also please verify it and please tell me > that am i right or not?? > > I think you have alot charts and alot experience so you can easily > tell about this concept. > > Even in my case it is working.I and my friends feel(because ppl who > listen us can better give feed back) that i am influenced by Su > instead of Ve. > > Regs, > Prashant Pandey > > My details:- > 11'th May 1979 > 08:09AM > Varanasi(India) > > Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, Gopal > Goel <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear  Friends, > > I humbly mention that Mr Narshiman has not understood the meaning > > of two opening Verses oF BPHS neither in letter or spirit: > > Pt Sitaram Jha was great Sanskrit scholar and Principal of most > famous > > Astrological Institute in Varanasi . I will give below the > translation given by > > him : > > First verse :Same as translated by Narshiman > > This is also in line with Sutra 1.1.10 > > Thus it is clear that both schemes are applicable , only it is to > be decided as to which scheme will apply in which situation. > > Second Verse:Mr Narshiman has not translated it properly , as such > his inferences > > needs to be examined with care and can not be accepted strait away. > > Let us examine the translation of Pt Sitaram Jha: > > " Some authorities hold the opinion that in 7 char karka scheme , > when two karka 's > > are on same degree ,  in such a situation Rahu is to be > considered , and other say > > that 8 char Karka scheme including Rahu should be considered > INDEPENDENTLY " > > > > BPHS DOES NOT DISCARD THE ABOVE VIEW IN ANY MANNER. > >  > > This defines the role of Rahu in seven char karka scheme. > > Jaimini sutra 1.1.19 says that putra karka is merged in matru > karka (obiously in > > seven char karka scheme). This means that seven char karka scheme > is applicable > > in Mundane affairs ant not on nativities of living being. > > Bphs clearly indicates the names of eight char karka including > Putra karka. > > It also specify the rules for replacement of char karka by sthir > Karkas. > > A careful study of this chapter reveals that in case of char > karka REPLACEMENT in seven char karka scheme , first replacement > will be introduced by Rahu -a karka of confusion and decite. > > Bphs further says that out of three constituents of Mahraja yoga , > one is provided by > > the conjuction of AK ans PUTK. > > As progeny is only possible in the case of living > > being , eight karka scheme is applicable for living being only. > > > > SEVEN KARKA SCHEME SHOULD BE APPLIED ON MUNDANE CHARTS. > > Regards, > > > > > > > >  G.K.GOEL > > Ph: 09350311433 > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > > NEW DELHI-110 076 > > INDIA > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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