Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 dear friends shri ak kaulji earlier rebutted the present calendar system which according to him is incorrect as he seemed like having done enough research on this subject and has historic evidences, dating of events and fixing the dates etc. one can understand and appreciate his new system just like a new ayanamsha. later he went on presenting astrology as a fraud and unheard in vedas. then he said some planets found mention in vedas and few other planets were not mentioned and were added by modern people later. when some members presented various ancient scriptural references of all planets and all 27 stars finding mention in vedas and puranas, he said that yes, planets and stars find mention in scriptures but not for predictive purposes. now some members presented references from proper four vedas what this planet in that star means etc., and kaulji started arguing that yes, all these planets and stars were mentioned in ancient scriptures but signs of zodiac like mesha etc., were never mentioned. let me state clearly that all nine planets, all 27 stars, all 12 zodiac signs find mention in all ancient scriptures. specifically, zodiac signs, which is the last missing item of kaulji in vedas, too finds mention in the puranas, samhitas and shastras written by the same sages. it is ignorant if one says that only four vedas are referral books and not the others like vedangas, puranas, samhitas, shastras, smritis etc. planets and stars are oft used by the natives even in the previous three yugas. here is one puranic reference of description of a night where the asura king durjaya visits and stays at the hermitage of sage gauramukha. after the sun as red as aruna, set behind the mountains, the night made its advent, adorned by the autumnal moon and the constellation of pleiades (krittika). the moon, the spouse of rohini, diffused its rays generating pleasure even to the sober people. next arose venus the preceptor of the demons, sukra, the son of bhrigu, the overlord of the daityas in company with saturn. he did not shine brilliantly since he had joined the opposite camp just as by nature the intellect of men does not shine if they associate with wrong side. mangala, the son of the earth, also rose and diffused its reddish glow, while rahu grew white by the white rays of the moon. the nature of the world is shunned by the gods and demons. over the belt of rays diffused by venus like the white path of sun, even the mightiest ketu cannot make darkness. at that time the activities of the wicked was also pure. the planet mercury, the son of the moon, endowed with high intellect, shone brightly radiating the world with its glory and moved for a long time in its own orbit. indeed such is the similarity that exists among the honest. soon after, ketu came up over the course of the moon and made the sky tawny for sometime. verily, a vile person does never perform his trickery in a clean manner before an assembly of virtuous persons. though the quarters were all brightened by the rays of the moon, yet the light was obstructed every time. Indeed, a righteous conduct is inherent in a noble descent. eminence of the great comes through the association with the noble. by the moon, son of varuna and aggravator of the three maladies, the rays of the sun were completely overpowered. verily, the injunctions of the Vedas can never be otherwise. dhruva, the polar star, who, in his infancy in the past, had propitiated the lord hari, did now make its appearance in the firmament in full glory singular by its association with hari. night befell in this way over the excellent hermitage of the sage. the above is how the night is described in all splendour of the planets, stars and the constellations. members may kindly note that once I too agreed with kaulji that in the previous yugas, there were sages who are all trikalajnanis who knew the past, present and future just by their vision and astrology for predictive purpose was not required for those elevated souls. in fact the wide usage of astrology is seen in kaliyuga due to the sages falling into minority and rare to find. hence my request to kaulji is that he shall desist from passing an authoritative comment that vedas and puranas do not mention first planets, then stars and now signs, for we all knew numerous instances of these finding mention right from the four Vedas. based on the constitutional provisions and rights of this land, if believers of astrology learn astrology and solicit consultation, advises and remedies based on planetary influences, why kjaulji shall strive to waste his time on proving these beliefs wrong. belief in any system of siddhanta is a matter of personal freedom, choice and right of any individual and no individual (including kaulji) can invade on the freedom of individuals to follow what they believe. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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