Guest guest Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Dear Sanjay, Typo mistake, sorry: should be reverse, direct reckoning of Ju, Ma, respectively, in your chart. Best wishes, Anna 108ar <bona_mente wrote: Dear Sanjay, Thanks for sharing this significant piece of knowledge. Your example clarifies deeper issue of 4thH nicely, "property" and "home" are indeed very different,so it makes sense to be reckoned differently- I didn't know that before your post. Plus, the older I get, the more I appreciate 'home' over 'property'./And your explanation of nimitta is great, simple yet deep/ In your chart you look at Ju /in 4th dir/ and mars /in 4th backward/. When either is unoccupied you look at the lord, right? So in my chart /Cn lagna, ketu in leo, Venus in MKS in 6th, Moon In Scorpio/ Moon is the property and Venus is 'home':fourth from Ketu is empty-house Taurus, Venus in Sag. /in Ke naksatra/ . How would you read this? Home is generally more difficult to get/establish than mere possession of property. Will Venus give me 'home' - soul retreat, despite its 'deadly' placement? Will Mars in fourth, lord of fourth FROM KETU have its say? Would you please clarify this for me? Regards, AnnaSanjay Rath <sanjayrath > wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Visti It is the Nimitta that we are looking for in Jyotish. An event is to happen, and it will but this event is also linked to other people, things and events that becomethe Nimitta or harbinzer in a way for the other events in a Four-D matrix. Ketu is moksha karaka as well as griha karaka. If we are to look at a house as an investment property, then surely we are alking about 4th house from Ketu, but *Home sweet Home* is another issue altogether as emotions, sleep, prayers and living come into the picture and here Ketu is like Ganesha, providing the door for a good life. Then are we not going to take the Viparitam Ketu into account? It is not important whether one meets the spouse before or after the house...one becomes a Nimitta for the other as Venus is the lord of the 4th (counted in reverse) from Ketu. In my chart Ketu is exalted in Sagittarius and the 4th from it is Jupiter in Pi which has to do with investment property but Home is always Virgo, the 4th reckoned in the reverse. Mars in 7th will indicate Hanuman, so Hanuman will give me shelter, home, prayer place and sleep. Hanumukha siddhirastu... Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenTuesday, March 27, 2007 6:55 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Guruji,Thank you for your reply. If this (vipareetam ketu) depends on ones view of life/marga (refer your second sentence), then spirituality is not necessarily in eating food as it would depend on the person who is eating. If you meant something else then please correct me. So, If Ketu brought a flat with the intention of getting me married 1.3 years after is ALSO right, then are we at all talking about getting a flat or are we talking now about sukha in matters of spirituality (tenth from Ketu)? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sanjay Rath wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Visti Why only spirituality? There is spirituality even in eating food...it all depends on a view of life. You have Ketu in Capricorn and you said 4th from it is Aries, and so your father got the house for you.... I have a different take on this issue. The reason for your house coming is SPOUSE as you got the house because you were going to get married and that is how Venus got the house for you...maybe this is ALSO right Sanjay P has a point to make and this is worth examining. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenThursday, March 22, 2007 9:12 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Sanjay, NamaskarAgree that the dictum of Vipareetam ketu exists, but it is vipareeta/reverse in matters of spirituality and represents the Ganesha chakra of the kala chakra. Home is still home and the vipareeta-ketu rule would then apply to the tenth house to show that there is no home just karma... the world is our home. So i cannot agree to using the vipareetam ketu rule here. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sanjay Prabhakaran wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Jyotishas, "Vipareetam Ketoh" Is a JUS. For Ketu you can try to count 4th in reverse. Kaaraka's and bhaava both can be looked at. For example 7th lord from Venus(11th) for me(Leo Lagna) is Jupiter in 4th house. My mother, elder sister met my wife before me. Jupiter is also for elder siblings kaaraka. Jupiter in Navamsa is stronger in chara rashi, So I had to travel far distance to meet her.Warm RegardsSanjay P On 22 Mar 2007 01:07:26 -0700, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: om krishna guru. dear rosemary, Pls be kind enough to supply your birth details with coordinates and place . Also gurujan pls discuss sale of property also . thanks regds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. sohamsa , "rf.innes-jones" <rf.innes-jones wrote:>> Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Sharat, Visti, Michal and Rafal,> > Thankyou for these interesting examples. When applied to my D4 ( Libra lagna), I find the only link for Ketu ( buildings) to the 4th house by rashi drishti is Venus deposited in the 4th in Capricorn. All three homes I have owned were beautiful, and have made a lot of money in value gained( Venus is 11th from AL in Rashi , and Ishta in navamsha) but were never brought to me through women or the arts, vehicles etc. > > However, in D4 , 4th from Ketu is Scorpio, 2nd house of cash resources, with Moon Saturn and Mars ( retrograde). Every property was found after some mistake ( Ketu), serious grief and losses, and linked to work needs .( Saturn also Yogi planet) Ashtakavarga points for Rasi 4th house Mars=0 Saturn = 2 and Moon = 2, So some significant anguish always surrounded settlements over all 3 properties. > > 2.Every property suffered sudden water damage with hidden expensive problems �" debilitated moon ( also AK and Avayogi) with Mars in Scorpio, Yet financial gains from conflict with the Insurance companies. ( Mars is duplicate Yogi planet for material prosperity, and Saturn and Mars are in parvartina in Rasi chart involving a powerful 8th house ( Insurance) and yogagkaraka Mars 5th lord). > > Saturn 4th house lord in D4 , also aspects by graha drishti , Ketu.> > QUESTION : But I still cant work out why the finance Lawyers ( Mars)for the first property, then real estate agents ,servants ( Venus and saturn) acted fraudulently in the sale of the 2nd property and purchase of the 3rd property. This last case being part of an impending court case. Do we count 6 from the 4th house in D4 for each subsequent property? > > Could Jupiter and Rahu Yuti aspect Ketu from the 5th and Ketu being Bhadaka in Rasi be the problem?> > I guess 1 good thing I have discovered is Jupiter=6 Ashtakarvarga in the 4th house in Rashi so Law works in the end, meanwhile its all good in the home for students, study and children . :-) > > > > With Best Wishes> > Rosemary> > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sharat> Thursday, 22 March 2007 6:58 a.m.> sohamsa > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property.> > > > > > Hare Ram Krishna > > Dear Visti,> > Namaskar> > I guess we can use this principle in Vargas as well? It does point in the direction from where action may fructify.I am going to apply this to my chart to see if it works. > > > > Sanjay ji has taught another principle for how to find the Guru, Spouse and I wonder if it can also be applied to property:> > This will probably need to be applied to D4. > > Find the planets aspecting or conjoining Ketu( Karaka for built up property), then see which one connects it with the 4H. The one which does will signify 'bringing the flat'.> > In your D4, Ke is aspected by Sun and Mars, dispositor of Mars is Venus which is in yuti with Saturn, which is the dispositor of 4H. Thus Mars will bring the flat, in rasi this is in parivartan with Sun, hence he eventually brings the flat. > > > > Does that make sense?> > > > Regards> > Sharat> > > > > > - > > Visti Larsen <visti > > sohamsa@ < sohamsa .com > > Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:00 PM> > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property.> > > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> Good example. I also use this karaka principle alot as its a way of divining who is going to help us in various activities.> When i was looking for an apartment the first person i mentioned it to was my brother (fourth lord from Ketu is Mars - i did this deliberately). For quite some time he didn't react but one day he decided that he was going to go looking for one for me! Then i knew for sure that i would get one, not necessarily through him but by his instigation. Within about one month or so we decided on the flat. > Now in my chart Mars and Sun are in parivartana and it ended up with my father being the real bringer of the flat.> > Similarly see the seventh lord from Venus. It will bring marriage and in my case its Mercury... ok that means friends. But Mercury is joined Jupiter in the twelfth house so it can be through teachers and students both and in a foreign country (twelfth house and movable sign). I might my future wife at a astrology conference and she is a student of a co-teacher. > > Easy isn't it?> > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) < visti com> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. < http://srigaruda.com> com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II> > Dear Gurubhay , Namaskar> > > _____ > > > My replies:> > 1. Lords from Karaka's shows bringing of that signified thing to the native. Karaka of this planet will show who will do that and place (like here 4L from Ketu) will show if that will come from abroad or own country. Therefore state and attitude (bhavana) of flat is seen from 4H, experience is seen from Ketu yuti/drsti while relation / presence is seen from 4L from Ketu. > 2. Hari Hara makes this division about planet well-placed from Bhava and from Natal.> 3. People go after property but the Daiva is bringer in form of many people/situations. Example: my 4L from Ketu is Jupiter in Pravraja Yoga so I have always many renounced (4 planets) brahmana's(Ju) which offered me houses/flats. > 4. Yes, the question is how much can Rasi told us..> > > > > > > _____ > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz,> > www.rohinaa. <http://www.rohinaa.com> com> > > > Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a): > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Rafal,> > Karaka from Karaka bhava is of primary importance ie. seeing Mars from the 4th house to check whether the person can actually have property. > > I'm sorry, but I didn't understand the end of your first point - "what with native (Lagna) ?" - can you please explain?> > What do you mean by "bringer of property"? How many people have property brought to them? Usually it is the people themselves who go after the property. Can you give an example to help clarify. > > Yes D4 is important, but I first want to be clear about Rasi, and not always have to fall back on divisional charts. Afterall, D charts spawn from the Rasi, so we should be able to see a great deal from the Rasi itself, at least the general charachteristics of things, like a property. What colour, how many windows, what kind of curtains etc. can wait for later. > > Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > Rafal Gendarz starsuponme sohamsa > Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:30:52 AM> Re: Buying a Car or a landed property.> > II hraum namah adityaya II> > Dear Michal , Namaskar > > 1. Bhavas seen from 4H shows good/evil to the property, what with native (Lagna) ?> 2. 4H from Mars shows bringer of property and relation with it. Kind of property is shown by 4H/A4 in D4.> 3. This should be especially seen in Turyamsa. > > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz,> > www.rohinaa. com < http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a): > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Jim, > > It works like this - Mars is the significator for land. See the position of Mars from the 4th house which governs property to see whether the native will have any land. Kendras and Trikona is good, dusthana is bad. So Mars in the 12th is good for property as it is in the 9th house from the 4th. > > What kind of property it will be, and when and how it will be acquired is seen from the 4th house from Mars. 2nd property will be seen from the 6th from the 4th from Mars and so on for each property. In the same way we can look at Ketu for buildings, and Venus for vehicles. > > > > Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind@ >> sohamsa@ .com> Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:26:18 PM> Buying a Car or a landed property. > > || Hare Krishna ||> > Dear Jyotisha's,> Namaskar,> > May I know and wish to learn how to see in chart , whether native has> a potential to buy "Landed property" or better way is "Beautiful > decorative good looking spacious house" or a "Car".> ALso timing related to that may be useful to me.> > I have very limited knowledge about this ,Mars shows land or fixed> property ,and Ketu shows buildings, venus for Cars , conveyances general. > 4th house is of , Mother , Property and conveyances , comforts so> defnitely this grahas should be linked to 4th house ??> Now timing , may be dasha should have aspect from this grahas and 4th> house something similar to this. > > Learned one , may I seek therir guidance.> > Thanks in advance.> > Best Regards,> Jim.> > P.S:This is my research I am doing for myself , I dont want to do bad > karma by asking tricky questions so I am writing straight forward.> Man needs to repay for his karma so its better not to do "bad karma"> > > > > > > _____ > > > Be a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. < http://us.rd./evt=49936/*http:/videogame s.> > > > > > > > _____ > > > The fish are biting.> Get more visitors < http://us.rd./evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> on your site using Search Marketing. < http://us.rd./ evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50>> Never miss an email again! 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Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007  +om gurave namah+ Dear Hari what to do Jaimini says so... Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa ShisyaWednesday, March 28, 2007 1:04 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. |om| Dear Sanjay, pranaams Ketu is the headless body and hence not affected by the Earth's rotation. So why should we change the reckoning depending on whether we consider it as the moksha karaka or griha karaka? best regards Hari On 27 Mar 2007 21:11:11 -0700, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath > wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Visti It is the Nimitta that we are looking for in Jyotish. An event is to happen, and it will but this event is also linked to other people, things and events that becomethe Nimitta or harbinzer in a way for the other events in a Four-D matrix. Ketu is moksha karaka as well as griha karaka. If we are to look at a house as an investment property, then surely we are alking about 4th house from Ketu, but *Home sweet Home* is another issue altogether as emotions, sleep, prayers and living come into the picture and here Ketu is like Ganesha, providing the door for a good life. Then are we not going to take the Viparitam Ketu into account? It is not important whether one meets the spouse before or after the house...one becomes a Nimitta for the other as Venus is the lord of the 4th (counted in reverse) from Ketu. In my chart Ketu is exalted in Sagittarius and the 4th from it is Jupiter in Pi which has to do with investment property but Home is always Virgo, the 4th reckoned in the reverse. Mars in 7th will indicate Hanuman, so Hanuman will give me shelter, home, prayer place and sleep. Hanumukha siddhirastu... Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Namaste all, I visited the list after a long time and caught this mail. My view is that houses from Rahu and Ketu should always be counted in reverse. When counting argalas and virodha argalas caused by Rahu and Ketu (not just Ketu), Parasara teaches to count the corresponding houses in reverse. In my view, the counting is always reverse for them. For example, antardasas of planets strongly associated with the arudha pada of the 4th house counted anti-zodiacally from Ketu in D- 4 can bring a house. The antardasa of a planet associated with the arudha pada of the 5th or 12th house counted anti-zodiacally from Ketu in D-4 can bring an *investment* in a house or apartment (if it is just land and not a house, don't use Ketu). The antardasa of a planet associated with the arudha pada of the 8th house counted anti- zodiacally from Rahu and Ketu in D-20 can bring mystical spiritual experiences. The antardasas of a planet associated with the arudha pada of the 8th house counted anto-zodiacally from Rahu and ketu in D-16 can bring a sudden vehicular setback. I have examples for all these, but no time to share them right now. Those who find my view to be wrong or silly may kindly ignore me. Best regards, Narasimha ------------------------------- Homam manual and audio: http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/homam Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > +om gurave namah+ > Dear Anna > Of course it will and must already have. > In fact once when I was learning this Gurudev foxed me by giving me a chart with Ketu in Cancer and saying that the peson was the youngest! So from where would a younger brother become the nimitta? The answer was with younger brother-in-law. So Anna, it cannot be restricted to just one person but covers a whole group of people we interact with. > In this manner, Venus need not be spouse alone, it can be sister, girlfriend, painting teacher etc...every activity of venus or person associated with Venus in your chart will throw open the door for association and growth. Simply because venus is in 6th does not mean it is bad. It just shows you may have a difficult relationship, maybe once as it is 12th from 7th house. Being in the 2nd from 5th it is very good for younger women associated with you. Being in 10th from 9th house, it is very very good indicator/nimitta from teachers associated with things like painting classes etc. When these things happen, you are taking yet another step further spiritually. Its all these tiny steps we take that makes us go forward. > Best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> > Webpages: http://SRath.com <http://srath.com/> Founder: http://SriJagannath.org <http://.org/> > Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> > Academic Director: http://jiva.us <http://jiva.us/> [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com <http://siva-edu.com/> [sIVA] > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of 108ar > Thursday, March 29, 2007 2:57 PM > sohamsa > RE: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > Thanks for sharing this significant piece of knowledge. Your example clarifies deeper issue of 4thH nicely, " property " and " home " are indeed very different,so it makes sense to be reckoned differently- I didn't know that before your post. Plus, the older I get, the more I appreciate 'home' over 'property'./And your explanation of nimitta is great, simple yet deep/ > > In your chart you look at Ju /in 4th dir/ and mars /in 4th backward/. When either is unoccupied you look at the lord, right? So in my chart /Cn lagna, ketu in leo, Venus in MKS in 6th, Moon In Scorpio/ Moon is the property and Venus is 'home':fourth from Ketu is empty-house Taurus, Venus in Sag. /in Ke naksatra/ . How would you read this? Home is generally more difficult to get/establish than mere possession of property. Will Venus give me 'home' - soul retreat, despite its 'deadly' placement? Will Mars in fourth, lord of fourth FROM KETU have its say? > > Would you please clarify this for me? > Regards, > Anna > > Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote: > >  > > > +om gurave namah+ > Dear Visti > It is the Nimitta that we are looking for in Jyotish. An event is to happen, and it will but this event is also linked to other people, things and events that becomethe Nimitta or harbinzer in a way for the other events in a Four-D matrix. Ketu is moksha karaka as well as griha karaka. If we are to look at a house as an investment property, then surely we are alking about 4th house from Ketu, but *Home sweet Home* is another issue altogether as emotions, sleep, prayers and living come into the picture and here Ketu is like Ganesha, providing the door for a good life. Then are we not going to take the Viparitam Ketu into account? > > It is not important whether one meets the spouse before or after the house...one becomes a Nimitta for the other as Venus is the lord of the 4th (counted in reverse) from Ketu. > > In my chart Ketu is exalted in Sagittarius and the 4th from it is Jupiter in Pi which has to do with investment property but Home is always Virgo, the 4th reckoned in the reverse. Mars in 7th will indicate Hanuman, so Hanuman will give me shelter, home, prayer place and sleep. Hanumukha siddhirastu... > > Best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> > Webpages: http://SRath. <http://srath.com/> com Founder: http://SriJagannath <http://.org/> .org > Editor: http://TheJyotishDi <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> gest.com > Academic Director: http://jiva. <http://jiva.us/> us [JIVA] and http://siva- <http://siva-edu.com/> edu.com [sIVA] > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen > Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:55 PM > sohamsa > Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤• à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Guruji, > Thank you for your reply. If this (vipareetam ketu) depends on ones view of life/marga (refer your second sentence), then spirituality is not necessarily in eating food as it would depend on the person who is eating. If you meant something else then please correct me. > > So, If Ketu brought a flat with the intention of getting me married 1.3 years after is ALSO right, then are we at all talking about getting a flat or are we talking now about sukha in matters of spirituality (tenth from Ketu)? > > Yours sincerely, > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <visti com > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com > > Sanjay Rath wrote: > >  > > > +om gurave namah+ > Dear Visti > Why only spirituality? There is spirituality even in eating food...it all depends on a view of life. > You have Ketu in Capricorn and you said 4th from it is Aries, and so your father got the house for you.... > I have a different take on this issue. The reason for your house coming is SPOUSE as you got the house because you were going to get married and that is how Venus got the house for you...maybe this is ALSO right > Sanjay P has a point to make and this is worth examining. > Best wishes and warm regards, > Sanjay Rath > Webpages: http://SRath. <http://srath.com/> com Founder: http://SriJagannath <http://.org/> .org > Editor: http://TheJyotishDi <http://thejyotishdigest.com/> gest.com > Academic Director: http://jiva. <http://jiva.us/> us [JIVA] and http://siva- <http://siva-edu.com/> edu.com [sIVA] > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti Larsen > Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:12 PM > sohamsa > Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤• à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Sanjay, Namaskar > Agree that the dictum of Vipareetam ketu exists, but it is vipareeta/reverse in matters of spirituality and represents the Ganesha chakra of the kala chakra. Home is still home and the vipareeta-ketu rule would then apply to the tenth house to show that there is no home just karma... the world is our home. > > So i cannot agree to using the vipareetam ketu rule here. > > Yours sincerely, > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) <visti com > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com/> com > > Sanjay Prabhakaran wrote: > > || Om Gurave Namah || > Dear Jyotishas, > " Vipareetam Ketoh " Is a JUS. For Ketu you can try to count 4th in reverse. Kaaraka's and bhaava both can be looked at. > For example 7th lord from Venus(11th) for me(Leo Lagna) is Jupiter in 4th house. My mother, elder sister met my wife before me. Jupiter is also for elder siblings kaaraka. > Jupiter in Navamsa is stronger in chara rashi, So I had to travel far distance to meet her. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > On 22 Mar 2007 01:07:26 -0700, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala@ <astro_tellerkerala .co.in> wrote: > > om krishna guru. > dear rosemary, > Pls be kind enough to supply your birth details with coordinates and place . > Also gurujan pls discuss sale of property also . > thanks > regds sunil nair . > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa > .com, " rf.innes-jones " <rf.innes- jones@> wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > > > Dear Sharat, Visti, Michal and Rafal, > > > > Thankyou for these interesting examples. When applied to my D4 ( Libra lagna), I find the only link for Ketu ( buildings) to the 4th house by rashi drishti is Venus deposited in the 4th in Capricorn. All three homes I have owned were beautiful, and have made a lot of money in value gained( Venus is 11th from AL in Rashi , and Ishta in navamsha) but were never brought to me through women or the arts, vehicles etc. > > > > However, in D4 , 4th from Ketu is Scorpio, 2nd house of cash resources, with Moon Saturn and Mars ( retrograde). Every property was found after some mistake ( Ketu), serious grief and losses, and linked to work needs .( Saturn also Yogi planet) Ashtakavarga points for Rasi 4th house Mars=0 Saturn = 2 and Moon = 2, So some significant anguish always surrounded settlements over all 3 properties. > > > > 2.Every property suffered sudden water damage with hidden expensive problems � " debilitated moon ( also AK and Avayogi) with Mars in Scorpio, Yet financial gains from conflict with the Insurance companies. ( Mars is duplicate Yogi planet for material prosperity, and Saturn and Mars are in parvartina in Rasi chart involving a powerful 8th house ( Insurance) and yogagkaraka Mars 5th lord). > > > > Saturn 4th house lord in D4 , also aspects by graha drishti , Ketu. > > > > QUESTION : But I still cant work out why the finance Lawyers ( Mars)for the first property, then real estate agents ,servants ( Venus and saturn) acted fraudulently in the sale of the 2nd property and purchase of the 3rd property. This last case being part of an impending court case. Do we count 6 from the 4th house in D4 for each subsequent property? > > > > Could Jupiter and Rahu Yuti aspect Ketu from the 5th and Ketu being Bhadaka in Rasi be the problem? > > > > I guess 1 good thing I have discovered is Jupiter=6 Ashtakarvarga in the 4th house in Rashi so Law works in the end, meanwhile its all good in the home for students, study and children . :-) > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes > > > > Rosemary > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa > .com [sohamsa (AT) (DOT) <http:///> com] On Behalf Of Sharat > > Thursday, 22 March 2007 6:58 a.m. > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa > .com > > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Ram Krishna > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > Namaskar > > > > I guess we can use this principle in Vargas as well? It does point in the direction from where action may fructify.I am going to apply this to my chart to see if it works. > > > > > > > > Sanjay ji has taught another principle for how to find the Guru, Spouse and I wonder if it can also be applied to property: > > > > This will probably need to be applied to D4. > > > > Find the planets aspecting or conjoining Ketu( Karaka for built up property), then see which one connects it with the 4H. The one which does will signify 'bringing the flat'. > > > > In your D4, Ke is aspected by Sun and Mars, dispositor of Mars is Venus which is in yuti with Saturn, which is the dispositor of 4H. Thus Mars will bring the flat, in rasi this is in parivartan with Sun, hence he eventually brings the flat. > > > > > > > > Does that make sense? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Visti Larsen <visti@ > > > > sohamsa@ < sohamsa@ <sohamsa@> . <http:///> com .com > > > > Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:00 PM > > > > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > > > > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤• à ¥Æ'à ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Good example. I also use this karaka principle alot as its a way of divining who is going to help us in various activities. > > When i was looking for an apartment the first person i mentioned it to was my brother (fourth lord from Ketu is Mars - i did this deliberately). For quite some time he didn't react but one day he decided that he was going to go looking for one for me! Then i knew for sure that i would get one, not necessarily through him but by his instigation. Within about one month or so we decided on the flat. > > Now in my chart Mars and Sun are in parivartana and it ended up with my father being the real bringer of the flat. > > > > Similarly see the seventh lord from Venus. It will bring marriage and in my case its Mercury... ok that means friends. But Mercury is joined Jupiter in the twelfth house so it can be through teachers and students both and in a foreign country (twelfth house and movable sign). I might my future wife at a astrology conference and she is a student of a co-teacher. > > > > Easy isn't it? > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > -- > > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) < <visti@> visti@ com > > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda <http://srigaruda/> . < http://srigaruda <http://srigaruda/> .com> com > > > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > Dear Gurubhay , Namaskar > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > My replies: > > > > 1. Lords from Karaka's shows bringing of that signified thing to the native. Karaka of this planet will show who will do that and place (like here 4L from Ketu) will show if that will come from abroad or own country. Therefore state and attitude (bhavana) of flat is seen from 4H, experience is seen from Ketu yuti/drsti while relation / presence is seen from 4L from Ketu. > > 2. Hari Hara makes this division about planet well-placed from Bhava and from Natal. > > 3. People go after property but the Daiva is bringer in form of many people/situations. Example: my 4L from Ketu is Jupiter in Pravraja Yoga so I have always many renounced (4 planets) brahmana's (Ju) which offered me houses/flats. > > 4. Yes, the question is how much can Rasi told us.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz, > > > > www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa/> . <http://www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa/> .com> com > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Karaka from Karaka bhava is of primary importance ie. seeing Mars from the 4th house to check whether the person can actually have property. > > > > I'm sorry, but I didn't understand the end of your first point - " what with native (Lagna) ? " - can you please explain? > > > > What do you mean by " bringer of property " ? How many people have property brought to them? Usually it is the people themselves who go after the property. Can you give an example to help clarify. > > > > Yes D4 is important, but I first want to be clear about Rasi, and not always have to fall back on divisional charts. Afterall, D charts spawn from the Rasi, so we should be able to see a great deal from the Rasi itself, at least the general charachteristics of things, like a property. What colour, how many windows, what kind of curtains etc. can wait for later. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa > .com > > Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:30:52 AM > > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > > > Dear Michal , Namaskar > > > > 1. Bhavas seen from 4H shows good/evil to the property, what with native (Lagna) ? > > 2. 4H from Mars shows bringer of property and relation with it. Kind of property is shown by 4H/A4 in D4. > > 3. This should be especially seen in Turyamsa. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz, > > > > www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa/> . com < http://www.rohinaa <http://www.rohinaa/> .com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a): > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Jim, > > > > It works like this - Mars is the significator for land. See the position of Mars from the 4th house which governs property to see whether the native will have any land. Kendras and Trikona is good, dusthana is bad. So Mars in the 12th is good for property as it is in the 9th house from the 4th. > > > > What kind of property it will be, and when and how it will be acquired is seen from the 4th house from Mars. 2nd property will be seen from the 6th from the 4th from Mars and so on for each property. In the same way we can look at Ketu for buildings, and Venus for vehicles. > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Michal > > > > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind@ <http:///> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:26:18 PM > > Buying a Car or a landed property. > > > > || Hare Krishna || > > > > Dear Jyotisha's, > > Namaskar, > > > > May I know and wish to learn how to see in chart , whether native has > > a potential to buy " Landed property " or better way is " Beautiful > > decorative good looking spacious house " or a " Car " . > > ALso timing related to that may be useful to me. > > > > I have very limited knowledge about this ,Mars shows land or fixed > > property ,and Ketu shows buildings, venus for Cars , conveyances general. > > 4th house is of , Mother , Property and conveyances , comforts so > > defnitely this grahas should be linked to 4th house ?? > > Now timing , may be dasha should have aspect from this grahas and 4th > > house something similar to this. > > > > Learned one , may I seek therir guidance. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Best Regards, > > Jim. > > > > P.S:This is my research I am doing for myself , I dont want to do bad > > karma by asking tricky questions so I am writing straight forward. > > Man needs to repay for his karma so its better not to do " bad karma " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Be a PS3 game guru. > > > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. < http://us.rd <http://us.rd/> ./evt=49936/*http:/videogame s. <http://s./> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The fish are biting. > > Get more visitors < <http://us.rd/> http://us.rd./evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./arp /sponsoredsearch_v2.php? o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> on your site using Search Marketing. < http://us.rd <http://us.rd/> ./ evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ?o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> > > > > _____ > > Never <http://us.rd./evt=49938/*http://tools.search./tool bar/features/mail/> miss an email again! > Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. <http://us.rd./evt=49937/*http://tools.search./tool bar/features/mail/> Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Dear Sanjay, This is the first time in almost 8 years I study Jyotish, that I feel like understanding thatVenus in my chart- your explanation fits my real life experience- I've always been somewhat irritated when others would 'write off" Venus bcs. it's in MKS, bcs I know that Venus did bring me lots of blessings - However not until now did I know the right reason why. Yes, I did have difficult relationships/spouse And brother/, blessings with female friends, teachers, painting, and from my mother as well. I used to assume that good position of Venus in Navamsa and D-60 must had done 'the trick'. I need some time to digest this new perspective, to apply in other charts...It will open up wholly new avenue in my knowledge, for which I am grateful to you Love, AnnaSanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Anna Of course it will and must already have. In fact once when I was learning this Gurudev foxed me by giving me a chart with Ketu in Cancer and saying that the peson was the youngest! So from where would a younger brother become the nimitta? The answer was with younger brother-in-law. So Anna, it cannot be restricted to just one person but covers a whole group of people we interact with. In this manner, Venus need not be spouse alone, it can be sister, girlfriend, painting teacher etc...every activity of venus or person associated with Venus in your chart will throw open the door for association and growth. Simply because venus is in 6th does not mean it is bad. It just shows you may have a difficult relationship, maybe once as it is 12th from 7th house. Being in the 2nd from 5th it is very good for younger women associated with you. Being in 10th from 9th house, it is very very good indicator/nimitta from teachers associated with things like painting classes etc. When these things happen, you are taking yet another step further spiritually. Its all these tiny steps we take that makes us go forward. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of 108arThursday, March 29, 2007 2:57 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. Dear Sanjay, Thanks for sharing this significant piece of knowledge. Your example clarifies deeper issue of 4thH nicely, "property" and "home" are indeed very different,so it makes sense to be reckoned differently- I didn't know that before your post. Plus, the older I get, the more I appreciate 'home' over 'property'./And your explanation of nimitta is great, simple yet deep/ In your chart you look at Ju /in 4th dir/ and mars /in 4th backward/. When either is unoccupied you look at the lord, right? So in my chart /Cn lagna, ketu in leo, Venus in MKS in 6th, Moon In Scorpio/ Moon is the property and Venus is 'home':fourth from Ketu is empty-house Taurus, Venus in Sag. /in Ke naksatra/ . How would you read this? Home is generally more difficult to get/establish than mere possession of property. Will Venus give me 'home' - soul retreat, despite its 'deadly' placement? Will Mars in fourth, lord of fourth FROM KETU have its say? Would you please clarify this for me? Regards, AnnaSanjay Rath <sanjayrath > wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Visti It is the Nimitta that we are looking for in Jyotish. An event is to happen, and it will but this event is also linked to other people, things and events that becomethe Nimitta or harbinzer in a way for the other events in a Four-D matrix. Ketu is moksha karaka as well as griha karaka. If we are to look at a house as an investment property, then surely we are alking about 4th house from Ketu, but *Home sweet Home* is another issue altogether as emotions, sleep, prayers and living come into the picture and here Ketu is like Ganesha, providing the door for a good life. Then are we not going to take the Viparitam Ketu into account? It is not important whether one meets the spouse before or after the house...one becomes a Nimitta for the other as Venus is the lord of the 4th (counted in reverse) from Ketu. In my chart Ketu is exalted in Sagittarius and the 4th from it is Jupiter in Pi which has to do with investment property but Home is always Virgo, the 4th reckoned in the reverse. Mars in 7th will indicate Hanuman, so Hanuman will give me shelter, home, prayer place and sleep. Hanumukha siddhirastu... Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenTuesday, March 27, 2007 6:55 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ Dear Guruji,Thank you for your reply. If this (vipareetam ketu) depends on ones view of life/marga (refer your second sentence), then spirituality is not necessarily in eating food as it would depend on the person who is eating. If you meant something else then please correct me. So, If Ketu brought a flat with the intention of getting me married 1.3 years after is ALSO right, then are we at all talking about getting a flat or are we talking now about sukha in matters of spirituality (tenth from Ketu)? Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sanjay Rath wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Visti Why only spirituality? There is spirituality even in eating food...it all depends on a view of life. You have Ketu in Capricorn and you said 4th from it is Aries, and so your father got the house for you.... I have a different take on this issue. The reason for your house coming is SPOUSE as you got the house because you were going to get married and that is how Venus got the house for you...maybe this is ALSO right Sanjay P has a point to make and this is worth examining. Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Visti LarsenThursday, March 22, 2007 9:12 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ Dear Sanjay, NamaskarAgree that the dictum of Vipareetam ketu exists, but it is vipareeta/reverse in matters of spirituality and represents the Ganesha chakra of the kala chakra. Home is still home and the vipareeta-ketu rule would then apply to the tenth house to show that there is no home just karma... the world is our home. So i cannot agree to using the vipareetam ketu rule here. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sanjay Prabhakaran wrote: || Om Gurave Namah ||Dear Jyotishas, "Vipareetam Ketoh" Is a JUS. For Ketu you can try to count 4th in reverse. Kaaraka's and bhaava both can be looked at. For example 7th lord from Venus(11th) for me(Leo Lagna) is Jupiter in 4th house. My mother, elder sister met my wife before me. Jupiter is also for elder siblings kaaraka. Jupiter in Navamsa is stronger in chara rashi, So I had to travel far distance to meet her.Warm RegardsSanjay P On 22 Mar 2007 01:07:26 -0700, astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: om krishna guru. dear rosemary, Pls be kind enough to supply your birth details with coordinates and place . Also gurujan pls discuss sale of property also . thanks regds sunil nair . om shreem mahalaxmai namah. sohamsa , "rf.innes-jones" <rf.innes-jones wrote:>> Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Sharat, Visti, Michal and Rafal,> > Thankyou for these interesting examples. When applied to my D4 ( Libra lagna), I find the only link for Ketu ( buildings) to the 4th house by rashi drishti is Venus deposited in the 4th in Capricorn. All three homes I have owned were beautiful, and have made a lot of money in value gained( Venus is 11th from AL in Rashi , and Ishta in navamsha) but were never brought to me through women or the arts, vehicles etc. > > However, in D4 , 4th from Ketu is Scorpio, 2nd house of cash resources, with Moon Saturn and Mars ( retrograde). Every property was found after some mistake ( Ketu), serious grief and losses, and linked to work needs .( Saturn also Yogi planet) Ashtakavarga points for Rasi 4th house Mars=0 Saturn = 2 and Moon = 2, So some significant anguish always surrounded settlements over all 3 properties. > > 2.Every property suffered sudden water damage with hidden expensive problems �" debilitated moon ( also AK and Avayogi) with Mars in Scorpio, Yet financial gains from conflict with the Insurance companies. ( Mars is duplicate Yogi planet for material prosperity, and Saturn and Mars are in parvartina in Rasi chart involving a powerful 8th house ( Insurance) and yogagkaraka Mars 5th lord). > > Saturn 4th house lord in D4 , also aspects by graha drishti , Ketu.> > QUESTION : But I still cant work out why the finance Lawyers ( Mars)for the first property, then real estate agents ,servants ( Venus and saturn) acted fraudulently in the sale of the 2nd property and purchase of the 3rd property. This last case being part of an impending court case. Do we count 6 from the 4th house in D4 for each subsequent property? > > Could Jupiter and Rahu Yuti aspect Ketu from the 5th and Ketu being Bhadaka in Rasi be the problem?> > I guess 1 good thing I have discovered is Jupiter=6 Ashtakarvarga in the 4th house in Rashi so Law works in the end, meanwhile its all good in the home for students, study and children . :-) > > > > With Best Wishes> > Rosemary> > > > > > _____ > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sharat> Thursday, 22 March 2007 6:58 a.m.> sohamsa > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property.> > > > > > Hare Ram Krishna > > Dear Visti,> > Namaskar> > I guess we can use this principle in Vargas as well? It does point in the direction from where action may fructify.I am going to apply this to my chart to see if it works. > > > > Sanjay ji has taught another principle for how to find the Guru, Spouse and I wonder if it can also be applied to property:> > This will probably need to be applied to D4. > > Find the planets aspecting or conjoining Ketu( Karaka for built up property), then see which one connects it with the 4H. The one which does will signify 'bringing the flat'.> > In your D4, Ke is aspected by Sun and Mars, dispositor of Mars is Venus which is in yuti with Saturn, which is the dispositor of 4H. Thus Mars will bring the flat, in rasi this is in parivartan with Sun, hence he eventually brings the flat. > > > > Does that make sense?> > > > Regards> > Sharat> > > > > > - > > Visti Larsen <visti > > sohamsa@ < sohamsa .com > > Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:00 PM> > Re: Buying a Car or a landed property.> > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> Good example. I also use this karaka principle alot as its a way of divining who is going to help us in various activities.> When i was looking for an apartment the first person i mentioned it to was my brother (fourth lord from Ketu is Mars - i did this deliberately). For quite some time he didn't react but one day he decided that he was going to go looking for one for me! Then i knew for sure that i would get one, not necessarily through him but by his instigation. Within about one month or so we decided on the flat. > Now in my chart Mars and Sun are in parivartana and it ended up with my father being the real bringer of the flat.> > Similarly see the seventh lord from Venus. It will bring marriage and in my case its Mercury... ok that means friends. But Mercury is joined Jupiter in the twelfth house so it can be through teachers and students both and in a foreign country (twelfth house and movable sign). I might my future wife at a astrology conference and she is a student of a co-teacher. > > Easy isn't it?> > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) < visti com> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. < http://srigaruda.com> com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II> > Dear Gurubhay , Namaskar> > > _____ > > > My replies:> > 1. Lords from Karaka's shows bringing of that signified thing to the native. Karaka of this planet will show who will do that and place (like here 4L from Ketu) will show if that will come from abroad or own country. Therefore state and attitude (bhavana) of flat is seen from 4H, experience is seen from Ketu yuti/drsti while relation / presence is seen from 4L from Ketu. > 2. Hari Hara makes this division about planet well-placed from Bhava and from Natal.> 3. People go after property but the Daiva is bringer in form of many people/situations. Example: my 4L from Ketu is Jupiter in Pravraja Yoga so I have always many renounced (4 planets) brahmana's(Ju) which offered me houses/flats. > 4. Yes, the question is how much can Rasi told us..> > > > > > > _____ > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz,> > www.rohinaa. <http://www.rohinaa.com> com> > > > Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a): > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Rafal,> > Karaka from Karaka bhava is of primary importance ie. seeing Mars from the 4th house to check whether the person can actually have property. > > I'm sorry, but I didn't understand the end of your first point - "what with native (Lagna) ?" - can you please explain?> > What do you mean by "bringer of property"? How many people have property brought to them? Usually it is the people themselves who go after the property. Can you give an example to help clarify. > > Yes D4 is important, but I first want to be clear about Rasi, and not always have to fall back on divisional charts. Afterall, D charts spawn from the Rasi, so we should be able to see a great deal from the Rasi itself, at least the general charachteristics of things, like a property. What colour, how many windows, what kind of curtains etc. can wait for later. > > Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > ----- Original Message ----> Rafal Gendarz starsuponme sohamsa > Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:30:52 AM> Re: Buying a Car or a landed property.> > II hraum namah adityaya II> > Dear Michal , Namaskar > > 1. Bhavas seen from 4H shows good/evil to the property, what with native (Lagna) ?> 2. 4H from Mars shows bringer of property and relation with it. Kind of property is shown by 4H/A4 in D4.> 3. This should be especially seen in Turyamsa. > > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz,> > www.rohinaa. com < http://www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a): > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Jim, > > It works like this - Mars is the significator for land. See the position of Mars from the 4th house which governs property to see whether the native will have any land. Kendras and Trikona is good, dusthana is bad. So Mars in the 12th is good for property as it is in the 9th house from the 4th. > > What kind of property it will be, and when and how it will be acquired is seen from the 4th house from Mars. 2nd property will be seen from the 6th from the 4th from Mars and so on for each property. In the same way we can look at Ketu for buildings, and Venus for vehicles. > > > > Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mind@ >> sohamsa@ .com> Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:26:18 PM> Buying a Car or a landed property. > > || Hare Krishna ||> > Dear Jyotisha's,> Namaskar,> > May I know and wish to learn how to see in chart , whether native has> a potential to buy "Landed property" or better way is "Beautiful > decorative good looking spacious house" or a "Car".> ALso timing related to that may be useful to me.> > I have very limited knowledge about this ,Mars shows land or fixed> property ,and Ketu shows buildings, venus for Cars , conveyances general. > 4th house is of , Mother , Property and conveyances , comforts so> defnitely this grahas should be linked to 4th house ??> Now timing , may be dasha should have aspect from this grahas and 4th> house something similar to this. > > Learned one , may I seek therir guidance.> > Thanks in advance.> > Best Regards,> Jim.> > P.S:This is my research I am doing for myself , I dont want to do bad > karma by asking tricky questions so I am writing straight forward.> Man needs to repay for his karma so its better not to do "bad karma"> > > > > > > _____ > > > Be a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. < http://us.rd./evt=49936/*http:/videogame s.> > > > > > > > _____ > > > The fish are biting.> Get more visitors < http://us.rd./evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> on your site using Search Marketing. < http://us.rd./ evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50>> Never miss an email again! 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 |om| Dear Sanjay, Really, your reply made me smile...and the counterpoint has been given by Narasimha. Maharishi Jaimini was a student in the parampara of Maharishi Parasara. So now what to do? best regards Hari On 30 Mar 2007 05:31:28 -0700, Sanjay Rath <sanjayrath wrote:  +om gurave namah+ Dear Hari what to do Jaimini says so... Best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath Webpages: http://SRath.com Founder: http://SriJagannath.org Editor: http://TheJyotishDigest.com Academic Director: http://jiva.us [JIVA] and http://siva-edu.com [sIVA] sohamsa [sohamsa@ ] On Behalf Of Jyotisa ShisyaWednesday, March 28, 2007 1:04 PMsohamsa Re: Re: Buying a Car or a landed property. |om| Dear Sanjay, pranaams Ketu is the headless body and hence not affected by the Earth's rotation. So why should we change the reckoning depending on whether we consider it as the moksha karaka or griha karaka? best regards Hari .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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