Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Sundeep, #1 Yes, Karaka needs to be strengthed as the real guide (om gurave namah) is neccessary when the Rahu tries to advise us. #2 Asura Yoga takes positive role when the Jupiter is in third or sixth from AL then its Prahlad-amongs-demons Yoga. #3 Rahu strong in ninth can be good for material gains (read Saravali) but still can be bad for guidance and world view (ref Visti Larsen) #4 Does Sakti Yoga shows what is destroyed by rasi or graha drsti? #5 Relation with father should be seen with Devata's of D12 and Lagnesh per 9L in D12 (per Sarwartha Cintamani & D-12 Lecture - Sanjay Rath). Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 vedicastrostudent napisał(a): Dear Gurus and others, I have heard frequently that Jupiter needs to be strengthened for Rahu in 9th. Is this because Rahu is in MKS, so the karaka needs to be strengthened? What if Rahu is exalted in Gemini and is essentially a functional benefic (Libra asc), and Jupiter is 3,6L in 8th in Taurus (it is Simhasanamsa but conjunct 4, 5L Saturn). Does this Jupiter form Asura Yoga simply because it is in the 8th, and will wearing a gemstone for it actually help at all, and if so exactly how? Rahu(BK) is with Moon(PiK) and is opposed Mars conjunct Ketu in 3rd. The native has a lot of unnecessary worry and fear, which is the key problem. Rahu-Moon forms classic Shakti yoga, but it should be positive, no, since it should destroy Mars (aggression) ? Also, what kind of effect will this Rahu have on the relationship with the father, given that Moon is also PiK? Withholding the full chart for native's privacy. Thanks, Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Dear Rafal, Thank you for your detailed response, and for the references! I do have some followup questions: > > #2 Asura Yoga takes positive role when the Jupiter is in third or sixth > from AL then its Prahlad-amongs-demons Yoga. Here Jupiter is 10th from AL. So, does Asura yoga take a negative role then? If so, will Jupiter strengthening still be advisable? I understand what you say about strengthening the real Guru, but will it come with lots of other problems due to its placement, lordship and yoga? > > #4 Does Sakti Yoga shows what is destroyed by rasi or graha drsti? I'm unsure now. I thought it was Rasi dristi. But in this case, both are valid - Rahu and Moon in 9th in Gemini have both graha and rasi dristi on Mars and Ketu in 3rd in Sagittarius. So, isnt this a destruction of whatever Mars stands for? Aggression? Native is definitely not aggressive, but very loving and forgiving. I remember B.V. Raman's statement that if Mars aspects the Moon, and then if Rahu " joins " the combination then it is very troublesome for the mind of the person. I'm wondering if this is still applicable in the case of Shakti yoga, as in this case, and if it is really Rahu that is causing the unnecessary fear and worry in the native's mind. Thank you Sundeep > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > vedicastrostudent napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Gurus and others, > > > > I have heard frequently that Jupiter needs to be strengthened for > > Rahu in 9th. Is this because Rahu is in MKS, so the karaka needs to > > be strengthened? What if Rahu is exalted in Gemini and is > > essentially a functional benefic (Libra asc), and Jupiter is 3,6L in > > 8th in Taurus (it is Simhasanamsa but conjunct 4, 5L Saturn). Does > > this Jupiter form Asura Yoga simply because it is in the 8th, and > > will wearing a gemstone for it actually help at all, and if so > > exactly how? > > > > Rahu(BK) is with Moon(PiK) and is opposed Mars conjunct Ketu in 3rd. > > The native has a lot of unnecessary worry and fear, which is the key > > problem. Rahu-Moon forms classic Shakti yoga, but it should be > > positive, no, since it should destroy Mars (aggression) ? Also, what > > kind of effect will this Rahu have on the relationship with the > > father, given that Moon is also PiK? > > > > Withholding the full chart for native's privacy. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Sundeep, 1. Asura Yoga shows decline of Satva values (Jupiter = life). 10 from AL means it can influence Your prestige. 2. Yes. Rasi drsti. If malefic influence then its vices disappears in life or in society when person appears/preach. Regards, Rafal Gendarz SJC Guru www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 vedicastrostudent napisał(a): Dear Rafal, Thank you for your detailed response, and for the references! I do have some followup questions: > > #2 Asura Yoga takes positive role when the Jupiter is in third or sixth > from AL then its Prahlad-amongs- demons Yoga. Here Jupiter is 10th from AL. So, does Asura yoga take a negative role then? If so, will Jupiter strengthening still be advisable? I understand what you say about strengthening the real Guru, but will it come with lots of other problems due to its placement, lordship and yoga? > > #4 Does Sakti Yoga shows what is destroyed by rasi or graha drsti? I'm unsure now. I thought it was Rasi dristi. But in this case, both are valid - Rahu and Moon in 9th in Gemini have both graha and rasi dristi on Mars and Ketu in 3rd in Sagittarius. So, isnt this a destruction of whatever Mars stands for? Aggression? Native is definitely not aggressive, but very loving and forgiving. I remember B.V. Raman's statement that if Mars aspects the Moon, and then if Rahu "joins" the combination then it is very troublesome for the mind of the person. I'm wondering if this is still applicable in the case of Shakti yoga, as in this case, and if it is really Rahu that is causing the unnecessary fear and worry in the native's mind. Thank you Sundeep > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa. com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > vedicastrostudent napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Gurus and others, > > > > I have heard frequently that Jupiter needs to be strengthened for > > Rahu in 9th. Is this because Rahu is in MKS, so the karaka needs to > > be strengthened? What if Rahu is exalted in Gemini and is > > essentially a functional benefic (Libra asc), and Jupiter is 3,6L in > > 8th in Taurus (it is Simhasanamsa but conjunct 4, 5L Saturn). Does > > this Jupiter form Asura Yoga simply because it is in the 8th, and > > will wearing a gemstone for it actually help at all, and if so > > exactly how? > > > > Rahu(BK) is with Moon(PiK) and is opposed Mars conjunct Ketu in 3rd. > > The native has a lot of unnecessary worry and fear, which is the key > > problem. Rahu-Moon forms classic Shakti yoga, but it should be > > positive, no, since it should destroy Mars (aggression) ? Also, what > > kind of effect will this Rahu have on the relationship with the > > father, given that Moon is also PiK? > > > > Withholding the full chart for native's privacy. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Dear Rafal, Thanks again! Sundeep sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hare rama krsna* > > Dear Sundeep, > > 1. Asura Yoga shows decline of Satva values (Jupiter = life). 10 from AL > means it can influence Your prestige. > > 2. Yes. Rasi drsti. If malefic influence then its vices disappears in > life or in society when person appears/preach. > > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Guru > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > vedicastrostudent napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal, > > Thank you for your detailed response, and for the references! I do > > have some followup questions: > > > > > > > > #2 Asura Yoga takes positive role when the Jupiter is in third or > > sixth > > > from AL then its Prahlad-amongs- demons Yoga. > > > > Here Jupiter is 10th from AL. So, does Asura yoga take a negative > > role then? If so, will Jupiter strengthening still be advisable? I > > understand what you say about strengthening the real Guru, but will > > it come with lots of other problems due to its placement, lordship > > and yoga? > > > > > > > > #4 Does Sakti Yoga shows what is destroyed by rasi or graha drsti? > > > > I'm unsure now. I thought it was Rasi dristi. But in this case, both > > are valid - Rahu and Moon in 9th in Gemini have both graha and rasi > > dristi on Mars and Ketu in 3rd in Sagittarius. So, isnt this a > > destruction of whatever Mars stands for? Aggression? Native is > > definitely not aggressive, but very loving and forgiving. I remember > > B.V. Raman's statement that if Mars aspects the Moon, and then if > > Rahu " joins " the combination then it is very troublesome for the > > mind of the person. I'm wondering if this is still applicable in the > > case of Shakti yoga, as in this case, and if it is really Rahu that > > is causing the unnecessary fear and worry in the native's mind. > > > > Thank you > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Guru > > > www.rohinaa. com > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > > > > > vedicastrostudent napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gurus and others, > > > > > > > > I have heard frequently that Jupiter needs to be strengthened for > > > > Rahu in 9th. Is this because Rahu is in MKS, so the karaka needs > > to > > > > be strengthened? What if Rahu is exalted in Gemini and is > > > > essentially a functional benefic (Libra asc), and Jupiter is > > 3,6L in > > > > 8th in Taurus (it is Simhasanamsa but conjunct 4, 5L Saturn). > > Does > > > > this Jupiter form Asura Yoga simply because it is in the 8th, and > > > > will wearing a gemstone for it actually help at all, and if so > > > > exactly how? > > > > > > > > Rahu(BK) is with Moon(PiK) and is opposed Mars conjunct Ketu in > > 3rd. > > > > The native has a lot of unnecessary worry and fear, which is the > > key > > > > problem. Rahu-Moon forms classic Shakti yoga, but it should be > > > > positive, no, since it should destroy Mars (aggression) ? Also, > > what > > > > kind of effect will this Rahu have on the relationship with the > > > > father, given that Moon is also PiK? > > > > > > > > Withholding the full chart for native's privacy. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Namaste Sri SundeepJust a couple of things:A graha is functional malefic because we disrespect, etc... its significations at some point of time. Suppose Jupiter is functional malefic, then, it is better to pray and respect all that what Jupiter stands for. An " aashirwaad " from Guru and " seva " towards a Guru goes a long way in helping the native. We aren't strengthening the force of Guru to become even more malefic by wearing a Yellow Sapphire, but, praying, doing service, etc... as paschatapa karma. In such a case, we can also look at worshipping Lord Vishnu and Ma Lakshmi. Sustenance is by Dharma. Lord of sustenance if Prabhu Vishnu. 9th house is Ma Lakshmi Sthana.Perhaps strengthening is not the right word in the context given. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 5/2/07, vedicastrostudent < vedicastrostudent wrote: Dear Gurus and others, I have heard frequently that Jupiter needs to be strengthened for Rahu in 9th. Is this because Rahu is in MKS, so the karaka needs to be strengthened? What if Rahu is exalted in Gemini and is essentially a functional benefic (Libra asc), and Jupiter is 3,6L in 8th in Taurus (it is Simhasanamsa but conjunct 4, 5L Saturn). Does this Jupiter form Asura Yoga simply because it is in the 8th, and will wearing a gemstone for it actually help at all, and if so exactly how? Rahu(BK) is with Moon(PiK) and is opposed Mars conjunct Ketu in 3rd. The native has a lot of unnecessary worry and fear, which is the key problem. Rahu-Moon forms classic Shakti yoga, but it should be positive, no, since it should destroy Mars (aggression)? Also, what kind of effect will this Rahu have on the relationship with the father, given that Moon is also PiK? Withholding the full chart for native's privacy. Thanks, Sundeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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