Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Dear members, The native had an arranged marriage at the age of 28+ years. The native has a eldest daughter (normal birth) studying in class 8 and a yongest son (normal birth) in class 4. He has had only two issues. Thanks Souvik sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Dear members, > > There are various theories on how many chidren a native can have. > > I however believe in substantial case studies to back any theory. > > So I have quiz for the members. > > Below is the details of a native: > Quiz Native > > Natal Chart > > November 27, 1959 > Time: 8:03:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Karthika > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (22.98% left) > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (30.87% left) > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (71.06% left) > Karana: Taitula (Me) (45.96% left) > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Le) > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi) > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars) > > Sunrise: 6:56:46 am > Sunset: 5:20:16 pm > Janma Ghatis: 32.7595 > > Ayanamsa: 23-17-49.54 > Sidereal Time: 0:04:50 > > Can any one tell me how many children the natives has/can have? > > Thanks > > Souvik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Very good to know that . Please explain the reasoning. kishore patnaik On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta < explore_vulcan wrote: Dear members, The native had an arranged marriage at the age of 28+ years. The native has a eldest daughter (normal birth) studying in class 8 and a yongest son (normal birth) in class 4. He has had only two issues. Thanks Souvik sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Dear members, > > There are various theories on how many chidren a native can have. > > I however believe in substantial case studies to back any theory. > > So I have quiz for the members. > > Below is the details of a native: > Quiz Native > > Natal Chart > > November 27, 1959 > Time: 8:03:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > New Delhi, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Karthika > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (22.98% left) > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (30.87% left) > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (71.06% left) > Karana: Taitula (Me) (45.96% left) > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Le) > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi) > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars) > > Sunrise: 6:56:46 am > Sunset: 5:20:16 pm > Janma Ghatis: 32.7595 > > Ayanamsa: 23-17-49.54 > Sidereal Time: 0:04:50 > > Can any one tell me how many children the natives has/can have? > > Thanks > > Souvik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Hello Kishore-ji, I was expecting the reasoning from the members. I am just a mere learner. I just wanted us to see if our theories work on cases we know absolutely nothing about and in cases where it doesn't work, we atleast state exceptions to the rule. I have already given the answer so now whatever explanation I give does have the risk on being biased. There is a rule in the IT industry where we work. One should never test one's own code becoz one tends to become biased Nevertheless, with my limted knowledge, I generally refer to an article written by SJC Guru Sarajit Poddar: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/08/progeny-in-jyotish-ii- number-sex-of.html In the case in question: D-7 Lagna is Libra with Moon + Ket 5H-1st. issue-Aquarius with Saturn in Mool Trikona. Aspected by Mon + Ket (Libra) n Sun(Cancer). The first child is a daughter. Probability of son is much lesser here. 7H-2nd. issue-Aries with Rahu aspected by Venus (leo) + Saturn (Aqua). Lord Mars with Mercury in Taurus aspected by Mon + Ket (Libra) & Sun (Cancer). Here no doubt the probability of another daughter is there. But I guess Sun's aspect on Mars caused a male child. Regards, Souvik sohamsa , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Very good to know that . > > Please explain the reasoning. > > kishore patnaik > > On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > The native had an arranged marriage at the age of 28+ years. > > The native has a eldest daughter (normal birth) studying in class 8 > > and a yongest son (normal birth) in class 4. He has had only two > > issues. > > > > Thanks > > > > Souvik > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Souvik Dutta " > > <explore_vulcan@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > There are various theories on how many chidren a native can have. > > > > > > I however believe in substantial case studies to back any theory. > > > > > > So I have quiz for the members. > > > > > > Below is the details of a native: > > > Quiz Native > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > November 27, 1959 > > > Time: 8:03:00 pm > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Karthika > > > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (22.98% left) > > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > > > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (30.87% left) > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (71.06% left) > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (45.96% left) > > > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Le) > > > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi) > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars) > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:56:46 am > > > Sunset: 5:20:16 pm > > > Janma Ghatis: 32.7595 > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-17-49.54 > > > Sidereal Time: 0:04:50 > > > > > > Can any one tell me how many children the natives has/can have? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 dear souvik.thanks for the mail. I have replied your quiz in another group i guess. but you would notice the reality is exactly opposite to what i have read It means there are cancellations are working and in the interest of the science, it is necessary to look into these cancellations. I had been asking you for the reasoning since I was hoping that I would find the cancellations in your reply. regards, Kishore patnaik On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: Hello Kishore-ji, I was expecting the reasoning from the members. I am just a mere learner. I just wanted us to see if our theories work on cases we know absolutely nothing about and in cases where it doesn't work, we atleast state exceptions to the rule. I have already given the answer so now whatever explanation I give does have the risk on being biased. There is a rule in the IT industry where we work. One should never test one's own code becoz one tends to become biased Nevertheless, with my limted knowledge, I generally refer to an article written by SJC Guru Sarajit Poddar: http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/08/progeny-in-jyotish-ii- number-sex-of.html In the case in question: D-7 Lagna is Libra with Moon + Ket 5H-1st. issue-Aquarius with Saturn in Mool Trikona. Aspected by Mon + Ket (Libra) n Sun(Cancer). The first child is a daughter. Probability of son is much lesser here. 7H-2nd. issue-Aries with Rahu aspected by Venus (leo) + Saturn (Aqua). Lord Mars with Mercury in Taurus aspected by Mon + Ket (Libra) & Sun (Cancer). Here no doubt the probability of another daughter is there. But I guess Sun's aspect on Mars caused a male child. Regards, Souvik sohamsa , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Very good to know that . > > Please explain the reasoning. > > kishore patnaik > > On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > > > The native had an arranged marriage at the age of 28+ years. > > The native has a eldest daughter (normal birth) studying in class 8 > > and a yongest son (normal birth) in class 4. He has had only two > > issues. > > > > Thanks > > > > Souvik > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Souvik Dutta " > > <explore_vulcan@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > There are various theories on how many chidren a native can have. > > > > > > I however believe in substantial case studies to back any theory. > > > > > > So I have quiz for the members. > > > > > > Below is the details of a native: > > > Quiz Native > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > November 27, 1959 > > > Time: 8:03:00 pm > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > New Delhi, India > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Karthika > > > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (22.98% left) > > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > > > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (30.87% left) > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (71.06% left) > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (45.96% left) > > > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Le) > > > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi) > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars) > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:56:46 am > > > Sunset: 5:20:16 pm > > > Janma Ghatis: 32.7595 > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-17-49.54 > > > Sidereal Time: 0:04:50 > > > > > > Can any one tell me how many children the natives has/can have? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Souvik, Kishore and Gurus, Namaskar! I thought when Ketu is in lagna in D7 chart then there is an exception, for even sign count forward and odd signs count backward. Gurus, Thoughts/Comments? Regards, Pranavkishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: dear souvik.thanks for the mail. I have replied your quiz in another group i guess. but you would notice the reality is exactly opposite to what i have read It means there are cancellations are working and in the interest of the science, it is necessary to look into these cancellations. I had been asking you for the reasoning since I was hoping that I would find the cancellations in your reply. regards, Kishore patnaik On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan > wrote: Hello Kishore-ji,I was expecting the reasoning from the members. I am just a mere learner. I just wanted us to see if our theories work on cases we know absolutely nothing about and in cases where it doesn't work, we atleast state exceptions to the rule.I have already given the answer so now whatever explanation I give does have the risk on being biased.There is a rule in the IT industry where we work. One should never test one's own code becoz one tends to become biased :)Nevertheless, with my limted knowledge, I generally refer to an article written by SJC Guru Sarajit Poddar:http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/08/progeny-in-jyotish-ii-number-sex-of.htmlIn the case in question:D-7 Lagna is Libra with Moon + Ket5H-1st. issue-Aquarius with Saturn in Mool Trikona. Aspected by Mon + Ket (Libra) n Sun(Cancer).The first child is a daughter. Probability of son is much lesser here.7H-2nd. issue-Aries with Rahu aspected by Venus (leo) + Saturn(Aqua). Lord Mars with Mercury in Taurus aspected by Mon + Ket (Libra) & Sun (Cancer).Here no doubt the probability of another daughter is there. But I guess Sun's aspect on Mars caused a male child.Regards,Souviksohamsa , "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:>> Very good to know that .> > Please explain the reasoning.> > kishore patnaik> > On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan wrote:> >> > Dear members,> >> > The native had an arranged marriage at the age of 28+ years.> > The native has a eldest daughter (normal birth) studying in class 8> > and a yongest son (normal birth) in class 4. He has had only two> > issues.> >> > Thanks> >> > Souvik> >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, "Souvik Dutta" > > <explore_vulcan@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear members,> > >> > > There are various theories on how many chidren a native can have.> > >> > > I however believe in substantial case studies to back any theory.> > >> > > So I have quiz for the members.> > >> > > Below is the details of a native:> > > Quiz Native> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > November 27, 1959> > > Time: 8:03:00 pm> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"> > > New Delhi, India> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters> > >> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Karthika> > > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (22.98% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)> > > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (30.87% left)> > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (71.06% left)> > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (45.96% left)> > > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Le)> > > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi)> > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars)> > >> > > Sunrise: 6:56:46 am> > > Sunset: 5:20:16 pm> > > Janma Ghatis: 32.7595> > >> > > Ayanamsa: 23-17-49.54> > > Sidereal Time: 0:04:50> > >> > > Can any one tell me how many children the natives has/can have?> > >> > > Thanks> > >> > > Souvik> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Om Namah Shivaya! Dear Souvik, If the birth time is changed to 8:09:33PM then the Saptamsa Lagna changes to Scorpio lagna. With Scorpio lagna, the 5th house lord is Moon (Cancer). Moon is cojoined Ketu indicating a Girl child. The second child is seen from the lord of 7th house ( Taurus) which is Venus and its situated alone in Leo indicating a " male " birth. I guess this explains the situation on ground. With Regards /-Akash... sohamsa , " Souvik Dutta " <explore_vulcan wrote: > > Hello Kishore-ji, > > I was expecting the reasoning from the members. I am just a mere > learner. I just wanted us to see if our theories work on cases we > know absolutely nothing about and in cases where it doesn't work, we > atleast state exceptions to the rule. > > I have already given the answer so now whatever explanation I give > does have the risk on being biased. > > There is a rule in the IT industry where we work. One should never > test one's own code becoz one tends to become biased > > Nevertheless, with my limted knowledge, I generally refer to an > article written by SJC Guru Sarajit Poddar: > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/08/progeny-in-jyotish-ii- > number-sex-of.html > > In the case in question: > D-7 Lagna is Libra with Moon + Ket > 5H-1st. issue-Aquarius with Saturn in Mool Trikona. Aspected by Mon > + Ket (Libra) n Sun(Cancer). > The first child is a daughter. Probability of son is much lesser > here. > 7H-2nd. issue-Aries with Rahu aspected by Venus (leo) + Saturn > (Aqua). Lord Mars with Mercury in Taurus aspected by Mon + Ket > (Libra) & Sun (Cancer). > Here no doubt the probability of another daughter is there. But I > guess Sun's aspect on Mars caused a male child. > > Regards, > > Souvik > > > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > Very good to know that . > > > > Please explain the reasoning. > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > On 5/20/07, Souvik Dutta <explore_vulcan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > The native had an arranged marriage at the age of 28+ years. > > > The native has a eldest daughter (normal birth) studying in > class 8 > > > and a yongest son (normal birth) in class 4. He has had only two > > > issues. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% > 40>, " Souvik Dutta " > > > <explore_vulcan@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > There are various theories on how many chidren a native can > have. > > > > > > > > I however believe in substantial case studies to back any > theory. > > > > > > > > So I have quiz for the members. > > > > > > > > Below is the details of a native: > > > > Quiz Native > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > November 27, 1959 > > > > Time: 8:03:00 pm > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 77 E 12' 00 " , 28 N 36' 00 " > > > > New Delhi, India > > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vikari - Karthika > > > > Tithi: Krishna Dwadasi (Me) (22.98% left) > > > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > > > > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (30.87% left) > > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (71.06% left) > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (45.96% left) > > > > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Le) > > > > Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi) > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Mars) > > > > > > > > Sunrise: 6:56:46 am > > > > Sunset: 5:20:16 pm > > > > Janma Ghatis: 32.7595 > > > > > > > > Ayanamsa: 23-17-49.54 > > > > Sidereal Time: 0:04:50 > > > > > > > > Can any one tell me how many children the natives has/can have? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Souvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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