Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, I see we agree on the importance of Jupiter`s influence. Rahu placed in trines will also give problem with ego if not AK. Could you please explain what did you mean by- " thats not nice for Guru of that kind of personalities " . I don`t understand it. Yes, nodes in trines to navams lagna are real blessing for astrologers as they get activated when ever they are in conntact with a chart. They probe very deep in analyse. But, again, even though Rahu can go amazingly far in researches and can grab large amount of knowledge that doesn`t mean that he will use it for the right causes. The aim of the knowledge is what differentiate two approaches. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Tijana, > > Rahu in first/ninth will have weakness of doubting all the time, even if > strong. Thats not nice for Guru of that kind of personalities. > > Infact both nodes need the protection of Surya/Jupiter to make one > spiritual. If Ketu is in ninth then one's dharma is headless and one is > prone to mistakes in pujas/fasting/nitis and tapasya. Unless Jupiter is > in kona too. Rahu exalted makes one spiritul in the same like Ketu > does..through other methods. Rahu and Ketu gives Jyotish if in Kona to > Navamsa Lagna..Ketu through Parampara and Sadhus, Rahu through Sarpas & > Research. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com > > > nix_nixen napisa?(a): > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sundeep, > > The decisive finger pointing at Rahu can be found in Vishnu Purana. > > But Rahu`s role in lives varies from one chart to another. > > The point is that satwa has to be very strong in someones life to > > make person fight the Rahu`s tempatations. That was my point when i > > was talking about Rafal`s chart. Strong spiritual yogas in his chart, > > Jupiter`s aspect on Rahu and his own efforts in increasing the satwa > > will direct this Rahu in crossing the borders in positive sence. > > It is well known that Rahu AK gives the most spiritual persons as > > Rahu has the power to eclipse the Sun (ego) thus leading to final > > emancipation. His color is black which leaves no space for the light > > of the individual soul. All this is potential given to person that > > can and doesn`t have to be used. We can not say that all persons with > > Rahu AK are spiritual nor we can say that those who don`t have > > favourable Rahu (as AK, yoga karaka, 9th lord etc.) are lost in this > > spiritual journey. > > But if Rahu is Atma you will be spared from doing things represented > > by Rahu and Rahu is the one who dared to confront Lord Vishnu and he > > will try to do that again and again. This reflects in his constant > > opposing the Jupiter by dristis. Rahu without the control (of satwa) > > will always fight Jupiter just like those persons continue to disturb > > Sanjayji. > > Potential of the Rahu Atma is something that requires deep > > contemplation. What is there in the fact that a person is subjceted > > to cheatings (of all kinds) and has to remain pure-hearted that leads > > to emancipation? Think of the Lord Christ as the example for this. He > > is the symbol of the universal love to everyone (as God is all and > > evrything) and this was taught by the Rahu Atma. So, Rahu presides > > over the grand illusion-difference between me and Self. It is said > > that a person can not reach emancipation without the mercy of Guru as > > only Guru can dispel illusion that Rahu creates for us. So Rahu in > > every chart should be under the control of Jupiter. > > Many spirtual persons have strong connection of Rahu and Sun as > > Ramana Maharshi or Maharishi for example. But again, they are Rishis. > > To all of us this Rahu`s influence brings terible fights, pains, > > misleadings...wheter we like it or not. > > You have the dual lordship of the lagna. It is posssible that you can > > compute the AL from the Rahu. For the given AL Shukra-AK has the > > digbala from it and this should be seen during the previous > > antardasha of Shukra. > > > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " vedicastrostudent " > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sharat, > > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > > truth > > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood out. > > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there was > > no > > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > > The > > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I pointedly > > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue the > > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has > > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > > to " put in the effort " due to his " personal problems " :-) > > > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in > > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and > > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only area > > I > > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before Rahu > > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as a > > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in > > the > > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep dreams > > a > > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that > > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, but > > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to me > > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as bad, > > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > > isnt > > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > > doesnt " balance " out in their charts? And I have presented my case > > > as an " unbalanced " Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled by > > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was > > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I can > > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so (i.e. > > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > > malefics > > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > > Rahu, > > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > > > Still confused, > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " Sharat " <gidoc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' cheating'; > > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can > > > give > > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7, > > > darapada, > > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord of > > AL > > > is > > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you work > > > or > > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is > > > not good > > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > > Durga to > > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > > you are > > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is 10th > > > from > > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you are > > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > > strife > > > and > > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > " vedicastrostudent " > > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > > hard > > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, > > > even > > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in > > > AL > > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > > dristi). > > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > > planets > > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus > > is > > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my > > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a > > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > > chart > > > is > > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I > > > had a > > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, > > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Tijana, Siksa sisya must have faith in Siksa Teacher, otherwise relation is disturbed - this disturbance comes from Sani and Rahu. Charaka Samhita nicely mentions qualification of Sisya. Regards, Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com nix_nixen napisał(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, I see we agree on the importance of Jupiter`s influence. Rahu placed in trines will also give problem with ego if not AK. Could you please explain what did you mean by-"thats not nice for Guru of that kind of personalities". I don`t understand it. Yes, nodes in trines to navams lagna are real blessing for astrologers as they get activated when ever they are in conntact with a chart. They probe very deep in analyse. But, again, even though Rahu can go amazingly far in researches and can grab large amount of knowledge that doesn`t mean that he will use it for the right causes. The aim of the knowledge is what differentiate two approaches. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Tijana, > > Rahu in first/ninth will have weakness of doubting all the time, even if > strong. Thats not nice for Guru of that kind of personalities. > > Infact both nodes need the protection of Surya/Jupiter to make one > spiritual. If Ketu is in ninth then one's dharma is headless and one is > prone to mistakes in pujas/fasting/nitis and tapasya. Unless Jupiter is > in kona too. Rahu exalted makes one spiritul in the same like Ketu > does..through other methods. Rahu and Ketu gives Jyotish if in Kona to > Navamsa Lagna..Ketu through Parampara and Sadhus, Rahu through Sarpas & > Research. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com > > > nix_nixen napisa?(a): > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sundeep, > > The decisive finger pointing at Rahu can be found in Vishnu Purana. > > But Rahu`s role in lives varies from one chart to another. > > The point is that satwa has to be very strong in someones life to > > make person fight the Rahu`s tempatations. That was my point when i > > was talking about Rafal`s chart. Strong spiritual yogas in his chart, > > Jupiter`s aspect on Rahu and his own efforts in increasing the satwa > > will direct this Rahu in crossing the borders in positive sence. > > It is well known that Rahu AK gives the most spiritual persons as > > Rahu has the power to eclipse the Sun (ego) thus leading to final > > emancipation. His color is black which leaves no space for the light > > of the individual soul. All this is potential given to person that > > can and doesn`t have to be used. We can not say that all persons with > > Rahu AK are spiritual nor we can say that those who don`t have > > favourable Rahu (as AK, yoga karaka, 9th lord etc.) are lost in this > > spiritual journey. > > But if Rahu is Atma you will be spared from doing things represented > > by Rahu and Rahu is the one who dared to confront Lord Vishnu and he > > will try to do that again and again. This reflects in his constant > > opposing the Jupiter by dristis. Rahu without the control (of satwa) > > will always fight Jupiter just like those persons continue to disturb > > Sanjayji. > > Potential of the Rahu Atma is something that requires deep > > contemplation. What is there in the fact that a person is subjceted > > to cheatings (of all kinds) and has to remain pure-hearted that leads > > to emancipation? Think of the Lord Christ as the example for this. He > > is the symbol of the universal love to everyone (as God is all and > > evrything) and this was taught by the Rahu Atma. So, Rahu presides > > over the grand illusion-difference between me and Self. It is said > > that a person can not reach emancipation without the mercy of Guru as > > only Guru can dispel illusion that Rahu creates for us. So Rahu in > > every chart should be under the control of Jupiter. > > Many spirtual persons have strong connection of Rahu and Sun as > > Ramana Maharshi or Maharishi for example. But again, they are Rishis. > > To all of us this Rahu`s influence brings terible fights, pains, > > misleadings...wheter we like it or not. > > You have the dual lordship of the lagna. It is posssible that you can > > compute the AL from the Rahu. For the given AL Shukra-AK has the > > digbala from it and this should be seen during the previous > > antardasha of Shukra. > > > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > "vedicastrostudent" > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sharat, > > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > > truth > > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood out. > > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there was > > no > > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > > The > > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I pointedly > > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue the > > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has > > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > > to "put in the effort" due to his "personal problems" :-) > > > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in > > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and > > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only area > > I > > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before Rahu > > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as a > > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in > > the > > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep dreams > > a > > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that > > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, but > > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to me > > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as bad, > > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > > isnt > > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > > doesnt "balance" out in their charts? And I have presented my case > > > as an "unbalanced" Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled by > > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was > > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I can > > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so (i.e. > > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > > malefics > > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > > Rahu, > > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > > > Still confused, > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > "Sharat" <gidoc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' cheating'; > > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can > > > give > > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7, > > > darapada, > > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord of > > AL > > > is > > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you work > > > or > > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is > > > not good > > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > > Durga to > > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > > you are > > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is 10th > > > from > > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you are > > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > > strife > > > and > > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > "vedicastrostudent" > > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > > hard > > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, > > > even > > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in > > > AL > > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > > dristi). > > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > > planets > > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus > > is > > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my > > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a > > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > > chart > > > is > > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I > > > had a > > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, > > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thank you. Is this scripture available online? Could you please forward me the part on Sisya qualifications if you have it. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Tijana, > > Siksa sisya must have faith in Siksa Teacher, otherwise relation is > disturbed - this disturbance comes from Sani and Rahu. Charaka Samhita > nicely mentions qualification of Sisya. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com > > nix_nixen napisa?(a): > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Rafal, > > I see we agree on the importance of Jupiter`s influence. > > Rahu placed in trines will also give problem with ego if not AK. > > Could you please explain what did you mean by- " thats not nice for > > Guru of that kind of personalities " . I don`t understand it. > > Yes, nodes in trines to navams lagna are real blessing for > > astrologers as they get activated when ever they are in conntact with > > a chart. They probe very deep in analyse. But, again, even though > > Rahu can go amazingly far in researches and can grab large amount of > > knowledge that doesn`t mean that he will use it for the right causes. > > The aim of the knowledge is what differentiate two approaches. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > Rahu in first/ninth will have weakness of doubting all the time, > > even if > > > strong. Thats not nice for Guru of that kind of personalities. > > > > > > Infact both nodes need the protection of Surya/Jupiter to make > > one > > > spiritual. If Ketu is in ninth then one's dharma is headless and > > one is > > > prone to mistakes in pujas/fasting/nitis and tapasya. Unless > > Jupiter is > > > in kona too. Rahu exalted makes one spiritul in the same like Ketu > > > does..through other methods. Rahu and Ketu gives Jyotish if in Kona > > to > > > Navamsa Lagna..Ketu through Parampara and Sadhus, Rahu through > > Sarpas & > > > Research. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > nix_nixen napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > The decisive finger pointing at Rahu can be found in Vishnu > > Purana. > > > > But Rahu`s role in lives varies from one chart to another. > > > > The point is that satwa has to be very strong in someones life to > > > > make person fight the Rahu`s tempatations. That was my point when > > i > > > > was talking about Rafal`s chart. Strong spiritual yogas in his > > chart, > > > > Jupiter`s aspect on Rahu and his own efforts in increasing the > > satwa > > > > will direct this Rahu in crossing the borders in positive sence. > > > > It is well known that Rahu AK gives the most spiritual persons as > > > > Rahu has the power to eclipse the Sun (ego) thus leading to final > > > > emancipation. His color is black which leaves no space for the > > light > > > > of the individual soul. All this is potential given to person that > > > > can and doesn`t have to be used. We can not say that all persons > > with > > > > Rahu AK are spiritual nor we can say that those who don`t have > > > > favourable Rahu (as AK, yoga karaka, 9th lord etc.) are lost in > > this > > > > spiritual journey. > > > > But if Rahu is Atma you will be spared from doing things > > represented > > > > by Rahu and Rahu is the one who dared to confront Lord Vishnu and > > he > > > > will try to do that again and again. This reflects in his constant > > > > opposing the Jupiter by dristis. Rahu without the control (of > > satwa) > > > > will always fight Jupiter just like those persons continue to > > disturb > > > > Sanjayji. > > > > Potential of the Rahu Atma is something that requires deep > > > > contemplation. What is there in the fact that a person is > > subjceted > > > > to cheatings (of all kinds) and has to remain pure-hearted that > > leads > > > > to emancipation? Think of the Lord Christ as the example for > > this. He > > > > is the symbol of the universal love to everyone (as God is all and > > > > evrything) and this was taught by the Rahu Atma. So, Rahu presides > > > > over the grand illusion-difference between me and Self. It is said > > > > that a person can not reach emancipation without the mercy of > > Guru as > > > > only Guru can dispel illusion that Rahu creates for us. So Rahu in > > > > every chart should be under the control of Jupiter. > > > > Many spirtual persons have strong connection of Rahu and Sun as > > > > Ramana Maharshi or Maharishi for example. But again, they are > > Rishis. > > > > To all of us this Rahu`s influence brings terible fights, pains, > > > > misleadings...wheter we like it or not. > > > > You have the dual lordship of the lagna. It is posssible that you > > can > > > > compute the AL from the Rahu. For the given AL Shukra-AK has the > > > > digbala from it and this should be seen during the previous > > > > antardasha of Shukra. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40> > > <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > " vedicastrostudent " > > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sharat, > > > > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > > > > truth > > > > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood > > out. > > > > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > > > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there > > was > > > > no > > > > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > > > > The > > > > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I > > pointedly > > > > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue > > the > > > > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > > > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > > > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general > > has > > > > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > > > > to " put in the effort " due to his " personal problems " :-) > > > > > > > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu- ness > > in > > > > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading > > (and > > > > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only > > area > > > > I > > > > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before > > Rahu > > > > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > > > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > > > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost > > as a > > > > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > > > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu- ness in > > > > the > > > > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > > > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep > > dreams > > > > a > > > > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe > > that > > > > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > > > > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > > > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, > > but > > > > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear > > to me > > > > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as > > bad, > > > > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > > > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > > > > isnt > > > > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > > > > doesnt " balance " out in their charts? And I have presented my > > case > > > > > as an " unbalanced " Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled > > by > > > > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > > > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara > > was > > > > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I > > can > > > > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so > > (i.e. > > > > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > > > > malefics > > > > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > > > > Rahu, > > > > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > > > > > > > Still confused, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > " Sharat " <gidoc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' > > cheating'; > > > > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it > > can > > > > > give > > > > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7, > > > > > darapada, > > > > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord > > of > > > > AL > > > > > is > > > > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you > > work > > > > > or > > > > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which > > is > > > > > not good > > > > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > > > > Durga to > > > > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > > > > you are > > > > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is > > 10th > > > > > from > > > > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows > > you are > > > > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > > > > strife > > > > > and > > > > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > " vedicastrostudent " > > > > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > > > > hard > > > > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to > > me, > > > > > even > > > > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the > > 3rd in > > > > > AL > > > > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > > > > dristi). > > > > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > > > > planets > > > > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa > > (Venus > > > > is > > > > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements > > in my > > > > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been > > a > > > > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > > > > chart > > > > > is > > > > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was > > convinced I > > > > > had a > > > > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside > > of > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, > > 23:00pm, > > > > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Tijana, Namaskar Its available in Sanskrit in Maharishi Group, one chapter is also available on Syamasundar Astrology site. I will put the qualifications tomorrow. Regards, Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com nix_nixen napisał(a): Om Gurave Namah Dear Rafal, Thank you. Is this scripture available online? Could you please forward me the part on Sisya qualifications if you have it. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Tijana, > > Siksa sisya must have faith in Siksa Teacher, otherwise relation is > disturbed - this disturbance comes from Sani and Rahu. Charaka Samhita > nicely mentions qualification of Sisya. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com > > nix_nixen napisa?(a): > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Rafal, > > I see we agree on the importance of Jupiter`s influence. > > Rahu placed in trines will also give problem with ego if not AK. > > Could you please explain what did you mean by-"thats not nice for > > Guru of that kind of personalities" . I don`t understand it. > > Yes, nodes in trines to navams lagna are real blessing for > > astrologers as they get activated when ever they are in conntact with > > a chart. They probe very deep in analyse. But, again, even though > > Rahu can go amazingly far in researches and can grab large amount of > > knowledge that doesn`t mean that he will use it for the right causes. > > The aim of the knowledge is what differentiate two approaches. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Tijana, > > > > > > Rahu in first/ninth will have weakness of doubting all the time, > > even if > > > strong. Thats not nice for Guru of that kind of personalities. > > > > > > Infact both nodes need the protection of Surya/Jupiter to make > > one > > > spiritual. If Ketu is in ninth then one's dharma is headless and > > one is > > > prone to mistakes in pujas/fasting/ nitis and tapasya. Unless > > Jupiter is > > > in kona too. Rahu exalted makes one spiritul in the same like Ketu > > > does..through other methods. Rahu and Ketu gives Jyotish if in Kona > > to > > > Navamsa Lagna..Ketu through Parampara and Sadhus, Rahu through > > Sarpas & > > > Research. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > nix_nixen napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > The decisive finger pointing at Rahu can be found in Vishnu > > Purana. > > > > But Rahu`s role in lives varies from one chart to another. > > > > The point is that satwa has to be very strong in someones life to > > > > make person fight the Rahu`s tempatations. That was my point when > > i > > > > was talking about Rafal`s chart. Strong spiritual yogas in his > > chart, > > > > Jupiter`s aspect on Rahu and his own efforts in increasing the > > satwa > > > > will direct this Rahu in crossing the borders in positive sence. > > > > It is well known that Rahu AK gives the most spiritual persons as > > > > Rahu has the power to eclipse the Sun (ego) thus leading to final > > > > emancipation. His color is black which leaves no space for the > > light > > > > of the individual soul. All this is potential given to person that > > > > can and doesn`t have to be used. We can not say that all persons > > with > > > > Rahu AK are spiritual nor we can say that those who don`t have > > > > favourable Rahu (as AK, yoga karaka, 9th lord etc.) are lost in > > this > > > > spiritual journey. > > > > But if Rahu is Atma you will be spared from doing things > > represented > > > > by Rahu and Rahu is the one who dared to confront Lord Vishnu and > > he > > > > will try to do that again and again. This reflects in his constant > > > > opposing the Jupiter by dristis. Rahu without the control (of > > satwa) > > > > will always fight Jupiter just like those persons continue to > > disturb > > > > Sanjayji. > > > > Potential of the Rahu Atma is something that requires deep > > > > contemplation. What is there in the fact that a person is > > subjceted > > > > to cheatings (of all kinds) and has to remain pure-hearted that > > leads > > > > to emancipation? Think of the Lord Christ as the example for > > this. He > > > > is the symbol of the universal love to everyone (as God is all and > > > > evrything) and this was taught by the Rahu Atma. So, Rahu presides > > > > over the grand illusion-difference between me and Self. It is said > > > > that a person can not reach emancipation without the mercy of > > Guru as > > > > only Guru can dispel illusion that Rahu creates for us. So Rahu in > > > > every chart should be under the control of Jupiter. > > > > Many spirtual persons have strong connection of Rahu and Sun as > > > > Ramana Maharshi or Maharishi for example. But again, they are > > Rishis. > > > > To all of us this Rahu`s influence brings terible fights, pains, > > > > misleadings. ..wheter we like it or not. > > > > You have the dual lordship of the lagna. It is posssible that you > > can > > > > compute the AL from the Rahu. For the given AL Shukra-AK has the > > > > digbala from it and this should be seen during the previous > > > > antardasha of Shukra. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com> > > <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > "vedicastrostudent" > > > > <vedicastrostudent@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sharat, > > > > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > > > > truth > > > > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood > > out. > > > > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > > > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there > > was > > > > no > > > > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > > > > The > > > > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I > > pointedly > > > > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue > > the > > > > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > > > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > > > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general > > has > > > > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > > > > to "put in the effort" due to his "personal problems" :-) > > > > > > > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu- ness > > in > > > > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading > > (and > > > > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only > > area > > > > I > > > > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before > > Rahu > > > > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > > > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > > > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost > > as a > > > > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > > > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu- ness in > > > > the > > > > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > > > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep > > dreams > > > > a > > > > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe > > that > > > > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > > > > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > > > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, > > but > > > > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear > > to me > > > > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as > > bad, > > > > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > > > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > > > > isnt > > > > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > > > > doesnt "balance" out in their charts? And I have presented my > > case > > > > > as an "unbalanced" Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled > > by > > > > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > > > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara > > was > > > > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I > > can > > > > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so > > (i.e. > > > > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > > > > malefics > > > > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > > > > Rahu, > > > > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > > > > > > > Still confused, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > "Sharat" <gidoc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' > > cheating'; > > > > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it > > can > > > > > give > > > > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations' . Ra is also conjucting A7, > > > > > darapada, > > > > > > so this 'accusation, defamation' can come from partners. Lord > > of > > > > AL > > > > > is > > > > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you > > work > > > > > or > > > > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which > > is > > > > > not good > > > > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > > > > Durga to > > > > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > > > > you are > > > > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is > > 10th > > > > > from > > > > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows > > you are > > > > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > > > > strife > > > > > and > > > > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > "vedicastrostudent" > > > > > > <vedicastrostudent@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > > > > hard > > > > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to > > me, > > > > > even > > > > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the > > 3rd in > > > > > AL > > > > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > > > > dristi). > > > > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > > > > planets > > > > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa > > (Venus > > > > is > > > > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements > > in my > > > > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been > > a > > > > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > > > > chart > > > > > is > > > > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was > > convinced I > > > > > had a > > > > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside > > of > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, > > 23:00pm, > > > > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Dear Anurag, Thank you very much for your deep and masterful analysis! It will take me a long time to absorb what you have said. I was aware of the Matru Shaapa and was anyway eagerly anticipating the end of the Mars moola dasha in 2008. I have found the Gayatri mantra to help significantly in relieving its ill effects. Moon is also DK in my chart, and I have felt the effects of the shaapa there as well - actually during the preceding Moon moola dasha too, although heavy financial problems started exactly with Mars moola dasha. I take it from your analysis that you feel that my interest in Jungian psychology etc is from my Sani-chandra yoga and is triggered by the Mars moola dasha? Then why did it so precisely manifest in the Rahu antara? I am still trying to comprehend the effects of Rahu.. Thank you again, Sundeep sohamsa , " Anurag Sharma " <anuraagsharma27 wrote: > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| > > Dear Sundeep, > > I read Dr. Misra's opinion below. Some thoughts in continuation of the > theme in the thread are stated below. > > 1. Arudha Lagna in Rashi will not be just 'reputation at work' but your > overall image in life of which working life is certainly a part. Rahu in > Mesha Rashi may give some perceived issues relating to irritation and > anger. Really speaking exalted Guru in the 6th House basically precludes > serious enmity. Rahu in Arudha Lagna can give confusion, enigma, lack of > clarity and other negatives regarding the image, as others see it. It is > also the Paka Lagna and your own estimate recognises these possibilities > due to the deliberate and well-considered choices you have made in the > past. > > 2.The quality of life that you term 'Rahu-ness' and I understand what > you are saying, should not be seen primarily from Udu Dasha. If you see > the Moola Dasha (computed from Lagna, Moon and Sun), the Antardasha of > the AK Venus started exactly at the time your spiritual experiences > began. Even before that exalted Guru Antar Dasha was running, which is > joined Shukra. As Naisargika Putra Karaka, it is related to progeny. The > Moola Dasha for your chart is given below: > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma): > > Mars MD: 2001-06-29 - 2008-06-29 > > Antardasas in this MD: > > Mars: 2001-06-29 - 2002-02-02 > Jup: 2002-02-02 - 2002-12-12 > Ven: 2002-12-12 - 2004-05-23 > Ket: 2004-05-23 - 2004-11-29 > Rah: 2004-11-29 - 2005-08-05 > Merc: 2005-08-05 - 2006-10-16 > Sun: 2006-10-16 - 2007-02-15 > Sat: 2007-02-15 - 2007-10-26 > Moon: 2007-10-26 - 2008-06-29 > > 3. I have noted your feedback about Chara Karaka replacements. But > Mangal Moola Dasha is that of a Graha in the 8th House and afflicts the > Moon causing Curse of Mother. Mars is the greater malefic and shows the > 10th House (work) as one of the source areas through which mental trials > can ensue. The other is 3rd (initiative) joined both Arudha Lagna and > Darapada. > > 4. The detachment present in the Shani-Chandra Yoga is also triggered by > the malefic Moola Dasha. You have been able to detach yourself (Shani) > from the flux of things (Moon). > > 5. Depth (Shani) psychology (Chandra) of Carl Jung and related studies > in Comparative Mythology can also be traced to these Yogas. I have some > similar placements and Matri Shrapa with exalted Moon. In the Sade- Sati > triggering the Shani-Chandra Yoga in the 10th House, and in Rahu Moola > Dasha, I came close to the works of Joseph Campbell who relied heavily > on Jung and archetypal thought. If you move closer to traditional > remedies in the future, you could remedy this Shrapa by worshipping > Brihaspati, Guru of Jupiter, the lord of the 2nd House where the Shrapa > occurs. > > 6. Vimshottari Antardasha of Rahu can certainly give heterodox thinking > and might attune the mind and enable stimuli coming from society so that > they are interpreted and perceived with the Karakattwa of Rahu. But deep > seated spiritual experiences (root of past Karma) might be better > examined from the Moola Dasha and Jupiter and Venus would explain them > better. Jupiter connotes the highest flights of mental/ philosophical > thought while Shukra as the Atmakaraka will give events related to the > purpose of the soul in this incarnation. > > 7. This will be felt in the intellect as the Lagna Lord Shani (Paka > Lagna/ applied intelligence) is involved in the Shrapa. Personal > manifestation of Karma related to the Moola Dasha of Mangal is ensured > due to the involvement of the Lagnesh and the 8th House (Nija). > > Regards, > > Anurag Sharma > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > > > > > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sharat, > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some truth > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood out. > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there was no > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. The > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I pointedly > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue the > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > to " put in the effort " due to his " personal problems " :-) > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only area I > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before Rahu > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as a > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in the > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep dreams a > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, but > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to me > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as bad, > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji isnt > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > doesnt " balance " out in their charts? And I have presented my case > > as an " unbalanced " Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled by > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I can > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so (i.e. > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or malefics > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at Rahu, > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > Still confused, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Sharat " gidoc@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' cheating'; > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can > > give > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7, > > darapada, > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord of AL > > is > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you work > > or > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is > > not good > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > Durga to > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > you are > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is 10th > > from > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you are > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some strife > > and > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a hard > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, > > even > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in > > AL > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > dristi). > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > planets > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus is > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own chart > > is > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I > > had a > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Dear Sharat, As always, thanks for the reply. I dont understand how exactly you say that it is not surprising that Rahu brought spiritual transformation. In general, in going with the understanding that has been put forth so far, Rahu should have done quite the opposite, no? Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa , " Sharat " <gidoc wrote: > > > ||Namah Shivya|| > > Dear Sundeep, > > Rahu is the ' mind' which causes confusion! In your case Rahu is > conjunct with AL, so it is not surprising that it brought you spiritual > change/transformation. You need to be cautious that if and when there is > an allegation/accusation, people in your work place /partners will talk > about it. So you must guard yourself, keep Rahu under control. > > Sanjay ji says that one should not be biased towards or against > significations of a planet. Rahu can give spiritual transformation esp > when its well placed in a chart like in Lagna and aspected by Surya, it > gives the knowledge of sarpas as per Patanjali sutras. > > Also look at Gochar of the nodes, which will modify any dasa, and they > can influence spirituality. > > I have Rahu, in Lagna, also aspecting 9H with AL but never had any > problems, in fact always had 'good fortune'..so its been good for me. > When Rahu in gochar came to conjunct my natal 5H Kumbha, which also has > Lagnesh and AK Surya, it completely transformed me spiritually and set > me on the path to learn Jytotish. > > On the other hand Rahu when eclipses Surya can make one blind.. so there > you go..its the same Rahu! For me in Lagna, it makes me distrust people, > doubt them, so I have learned to control it and do Guru mantras. But it > seems I havent done enough, as I havent found a Guru yet. > > Just my humble thoughts. > > Sincerely, > > Sharat > > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sharat, > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some truth > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood out. > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there was no > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. The > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I pointedly > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue the > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > to " put in the effort " due to his " personal problems " :-) > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only area I > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before Rahu > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as a > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in the > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep dreams a > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, but > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to me > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as bad, > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji isnt > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > doesnt " balance " out in their charts? And I have presented my case > > as an " unbalanced " Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled by > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I can > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so (i.e. > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or malefics > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at Rahu, > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > Still confused, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Sharat " gidoc@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' cheating'; > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can > > give > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7, > > darapada, > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord of AL > > is > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you work > > or > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is > > not good > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > Durga to > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > you are > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is 10th > > from > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you are > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some strife > > and > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a hard > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, > > even > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in > > AL > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > dristi). > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > planets > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus is > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own chart > > is > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I > > had a > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Dear Tijanaji, Thank you for your reply. I am extremely interested in your writeup as you have started going deep into the root of the Rahu symbolism now. Having read yours and Rafalji's and Sharat and Anurag's writeups (the depth of knowledge on this group is nothing short of amazing), I see that Rahu in its essence symbolizes on one hand fabrication (of untruths), and on the other hand being away-from-the norm. Jupiter obviously must symbolize pure consciousness and awareness, since pure consciousness and awareness quickly dispel untruths and fabrications. On the other hand, I believe the other essence of Rahu (away-from-the-norm) probably directly contradicts Sun's symbolism.. That said, my confusion still remains. See earlier that Sharat had implied that Rahu indicated his " master-planner " nature. Now " master- planner " is clearly a concretization of the " fabrication " symbolism. So here we have a " positive " manifestion of Rahu's symbolism. My deep problem is - why do we only concentrate on the negative manifestations/concretizations of Rahu's symbolism? If you look deeply at the Rahu AK issue, again, it is again a positive manifestation of Rahu's symbolism. After my own deep analysis, it seems correct for me to conclude that when we talk about a planet becoming chara AK, what we really mean is that the Atma *throws up* a particular kind of experience to *test* the mettle of a person. Venus AK throws up relationship issues. Rahu AK throws up untruths/fabrications in the the life of a person. Since it is AK doing the throwing up, the issues are not detected at the mental level, the person invariably finds himself in such situations. The deeply spiritual person is one who passes the test of the AK. Obviously Rahu AK's tests are the hardest to pass, which makes those who *pass* it the most spiritual. I doubt if *all* Rahu AKs are spiritual. For every one who passes the test, there are probably 1000 who fail i.e. succumb to some level of untruth. In any case, my point has still not been made. What I mean to say is that just like in the Rahu-as-AK issue we consider the person to be spiritual because he successfully fights the untruths, why isnt it the case that when exalted Rahu is in the first house it simply means Rahu will throw up untruths related to first, ninth house. If the person succumbs, of course it will be bad, but if he wins, he will be *all the more better* (as perhaps in Rafalji's case). I mean, simply Rahu in the first may not be a nail in the coffin - it may actually be a feather in the cap provided other yogas support. I am not sure if I have been clear here.. Lets hope someone catches my drift.. Thanks, Sundeep sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > Dear Sundeep, > The decisive finger pointing at Rahu can be found in Vishnu Purana. > But Rahu`s role in lives varies from one chart to another. > The point is that satwa has to be very strong in someones life to > make person fight the Rahu`s tempatations. That was my point when i > was talking about Rafal`s chart. Strong spiritual yogas in his chart, > Jupiter`s aspect on Rahu and his own efforts in increasing the satwa > will direct this Rahu in crossing the borders in positive sence. > It is well known that Rahu AK gives the most spiritual persons as > Rahu has the power to eclipse the Sun (ego) thus leading to final > emancipation. His color is black which leaves no space for the light > of the individual soul. All this is potential given to person that > can and doesn`t have to be used. We can not say that all persons with > Rahu AK are spiritual nor we can say that those who don`t have > favourable Rahu (as AK, yoga karaka, 9th lord etc.) are lost in this > spiritual journey. > But if Rahu is Atma you will be spared from doing things represented > by Rahu and Rahu is the one who dared to confront Lord Vishnu and he > will try to do that again and again. This reflects in his constant > opposing the Jupiter by dristis. Rahu without the control (of satwa) > will always fight Jupiter just like those persons continue to disturb > Sanjayji. > Potential of the Rahu Atma is something that requires deep > contemplation. What is there in the fact that a person is subjceted > to cheatings (of all kinds) and has to remain pure-hearted that leads > to emancipation? Think of the Lord Christ as the example for this. He > is the symbol of the universal love to everyone (as God is all and > evrything) and this was taught by the Rahu Atma. So, Rahu presides > over the grand illusion-difference between me and Self. It is said > that a person can not reach emancipation without the mercy of Guru as > only Guru can dispel illusion that Rahu creates for us. So Rahu in > every chart should be under the control of Jupiter. > Many spirtual persons have strong connection of Rahu and Sun as > Ramana Maharshi or Maharishi for example. But again, they are Rishis. > To all of us this Rahu`s influence brings terible fights, pains, > misleadings...wheter we like it or not. > You have the dual lordship of the lagna. It is posssible that you can > compute the AL from the Rahu. For the given AL Shukra-AK has the > digbala from it and this should be seen during the previous > antardasha of Shukra. > > Warm regards, > Tijana > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sharat, > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > truth > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood out. > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there was > no > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > The > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I pointedly > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue the > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing > > to " put in the effort " due to his " personal problems " :-) > > > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only area > I > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before Rahu > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as a > > divine blessing understood the connections between science, > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in > the > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep dreams > a > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past. > > > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, but > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to me > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as bad, > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > isnt > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it > > doesnt " balance " out in their charts? And I have presented my case > > as an " unbalanced " Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled by > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I can > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so (i.e. > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > malefics > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > Rahu, > > and not just malefics in general? > > > > Still confused, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Sharat " <gidoc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > Dear Sundeep, > > > > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' cheating'; > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can > > give > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7, > > darapada, > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord of > AL > > is > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you work > > or > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is > > not good > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and > > Durga to > > > combat Rahu's intentions. > > > > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows > > you are > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is 10th > > from > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you are > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > strife > > and > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna. > > > > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " vedicastrostudent " > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji, > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > hard > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, > > even > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in > > AL > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi- > > dristi). > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No > > planets > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras. > > > > > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus > is > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my > > > > chart). > > > > > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > chart > > is > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I > > had a > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sundeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya||Dear Sundeep, 'Imean, simply Rahu in the first may not be a nail in the coffin - itmay actually be a feather in the cap provided other yogas support' You have answered this yourself. Understand Rahu as the boundary of the mind, in the Lagna, it is the one that can take you beyond it. So, you can achieve what most cant, or can fall flat! Rahu gives one the knowledge of the sarpas and when in Lagna and in yoga with Surya, will bestow secret knowledge and spirituality. My humble thoughts. Sincerely, Sharat sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent wrote:>> Dear Sharat,> As always, thanks for the reply. I dont understand how exactly you > say that it is not surprising that Rahu brought spiritual > transformation. In general, in going with the understanding that has > been put forth so far, Rahu should have done quite the opposite, no?> > Thanks,> > Sundeep> > sohamsa , "Sharat" gidoc@ wrote:> >> > > > ||Namah Shivya||> > > > Dear Sundeep,> > > > Rahu is the ' mind' which causes confusion! In your case Rahu is> > conjunct with AL, so it is not surprising that it brought you > spiritual> > change/transformation. You need to be cautious that if and when > there is> > an allegation/accusation, people in your work place /partners will > talk> > about it. So you must guard yourself, keep Rahu under control.> > > > Sanjay ji says that one should not be biased towards or against> > significations of a planet. Rahu can give spiritual transformation > esp> > when its well placed in a chart like in Lagna and aspected by > Surya, it> > gives the knowledge of sarpas as per Patanjali sutras.> > > > Also look at Gochar of the nodes, which will modify any dasa, and > they> > can influence spirituality.> > > > I have Rahu, in Lagna, also aspecting 9H with AL but never had any> > problems, in fact always had 'good fortune'..so its been good for > me.> > When Rahu in gochar came to conjunct my natal 5H Kumbha, which > also has> > Lagnesh and AK Surya, it completely transformed me spiritually and > set> > me on the path to learn Jytotish.> > > > On the other hand Rahu when eclipses Surya can make one blind.. so > there> > you go..its the same Rahu! For me in Lagna, it makes me distrust > people,> > doubt them, so I have learned to control it and do Guru mantras. > But it> > seems I havent done enough, as I havent found a Guru yet.> > > > Just my humble thoughts.> > > > Sincerely,> > > > Sharat> > > > > > sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent"> > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sharat,> > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > truth> > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood > out.> > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my> > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there > was no> > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > The> > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I > pointedly> > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue > the> > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was> > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me> > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has> > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing> > > to "put in the effort" due to his "personal problems" :-)> > >> > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in> > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and> > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only > area I> > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before > Rahu> > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara> > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I> > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as > a> > > divine blessing understood the connections between science,> > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in > the> > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against> > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep > dreams a> > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that> > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past.> > >> > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this> > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, > but> > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to > me> > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as > bad,> > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged> > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > isnt> > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it> > > doesnt "balance" out in their charts? And I have presented my > case> > > as an "unbalanced" Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled > by> > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic> > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was> > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I > can> > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so > (i.e.> > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > malefics> > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > Rahu,> > > and not just malefics in general?> > >> > > Still confused,> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Sundeep> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sohamsa , "Sharat" gidoc@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > >> > > > Dear Sundeep,> > > >> > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you> > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' > cheating';> > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can> > > give> > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7,> > > darapada,> > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord > of AL> > > is> > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you > work> > > or> > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is> > > not good> > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and> > > Durga to> > > > combat Rahu's intentions.> > > >> > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows> > > you are> > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is > 10th> > > from> > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you > are> > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > strife> > > and> > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna.> > > >> > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction.> > > >> > > > Best wishes> > > >> > > > Sharat> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent"> > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji,> > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > hard> > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to > me,> > > even> > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd > in> > > AL> > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi-> > > dristi).> > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No> > > planets> > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras.> > > > >> > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa > (Venus is> > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements > in my> > > > > chart).> > > > >> > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a> > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > chart> > > is> > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced > I> > > had a> > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside > of> > > > > marriage.> > > > >> > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, > 23:00pm,> > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > Sundeep> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 |Om Shreenivasaya Namah| Dear Sundeep, Namaskar. Thank you for your kind words. Rahu Antara is quite capable of giving these results. Apart from the reasons given earlier regarding heterodox and very wide-based reading and research through the works of 'foreign' authors and thought, some other brief reasons are given below: 1. Tijana has also drawn attention to the fact that Rahu is the Lagnesh and therefore Aries can also be taken to be the Paka Lagna. Though Shani-Chandra Yoga is stronger, Mesha Paka Lagna will also manifest, just as the weaker Arudha Pada manifests when there are two of them, from time to time. 2. Rahu as the Lagna Lord shows intent to apply intelligence wih a sense of initiative, seen from Mesha Rashi and logic must be a component. For a structured, yet diffused discipline like depth psychology, archetypal thought, rites of passage, mythic transformation, biological truths, Rahu in Mesha Paka Lagna can be a good pointer. 3. It is placed in the 3rd House of research, being a natural Pada through Bhavat Bhavam, of the 8th House, a primary place of research. It is a natural direction for the Dhi Shakti to take in the mind-centric, environmental impulse and stimuli based Vimshottari Antardasha, specially when the Dasha is reckoned from the Chandra Nakshatra. 4. The 3rd House is also reading and writing. 5.Rahu has unobstructed Argala to the Shani-Chandra Yoga in the 2nd House. Through reading what you read, it influences very strongly, almost intervenes, in the detached psychology of the Shani-Chandra Yoga. Stepping away from flux and compulsive passion, you delve into studies related to 'patterns' eternal. The Argala is from the AL (image and external personality) and thus what you did in visible life: stepping away etc, had an 'influence/ intervention (Argala) on where the mind (Moon) was going anyway (Meena Rashi: knowledge,release, wisdom, freedom from personal limitations through knowing...). 6. The 3rd House is also called the place of the Guru Upadesha. Rahu Antar was quite capable of doing what it did. I do not know if this is a satisfactory explanation but these were the thoughts that came to mind. Regards, Anurag Sharma http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent wrote:>> Dear Anurag,> Thank you very much for your deep and masterful analysis! It will > take me a long time to absorb what you have said. I was aware of the > Matru Shaapa and was anyway eagerly anticipating the end of the Mars > moola dasha in 2008. I have found the Gayatri mantra to help > significantly in relieving its ill effects. Moon is also DK in my > chart, and I have felt the effects of the shaapa there as well - > actually during the preceding Moon moola dasha too, although heavy > financial problems started exactly with Mars moola dasha. > > I take it from your analysis that you feel that my interest in > Jungian psychology etc is from my Sani-chandra yoga and is triggered > by the Mars moola dasha? Then why did it so precisely manifest in > the Rahu antara? I am still trying to comprehend the effects of > Rahu..> > Thank you again,> > Sundeep> > > > sohamsa , "Anurag Sharma" > anuraagsharma27@ wrote:> >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > Dear Sundeep,> > > > I read Dr. Misra's opinion below. Some thoughts in continuation of > the> > theme in the thread are stated below.> > > > 1. Arudha Lagna in Rashi will not be just 'reputation at work' but > your> > overall image in life of which working life is certainly a part. > Rahu in> > Mesha Rashi may give some perceived issues relating to irritation > and> > anger. Really speaking exalted Guru in the 6th House basically > precludes> > serious enmity. Rahu in Arudha Lagna can give confusion, enigma, > lack of> > clarity and other negatives regarding the image, as others see it. > It is> > also the Paka Lagna and your own estimate recognises these > possibilities> > due to the deliberate and well-considered choices you have made in > the> > past.> > > > 2.The quality of life that you term 'Rahu-ness' and I understand > what> > you are saying, should not be seen primarily from Udu Dasha. If > you see> > the Moola Dasha (computed from Lagna, Moon and Sun), the > Antardasha of> > the AK Venus started exactly at the time your spiritual experiences> > began. Even before that exalted Guru Antar Dasha was running, > which is> > joined Shukra. As Naisargika Putra Karaka, it is related to > progeny. The> > Moola Dasha for your chart is given below:> > > > Moola Dasa (dasa showing the root of events - past karma):> > > > Mars MD: 2001-06-29 - 2008-06-29> > > > Antardasas in this MD:> > > > Mars: 2001-06-29 - 2002-02-02> > Jup: 2002-02-02 - 2002-12-12> > Ven: 2002-12-12 - 2004-05-23> > Ket: 2004-05-23 - 2004-11-29> > Rah: 2004-11-29 - 2005-08-05> > Merc: 2005-08-05 - 2006-10-16> > Sun: 2006-10-16 - 2007-02-15> > Sat: 2007-02-15 - 2007-10-26> > Moon: 2007-10-26 - 2008-06-29> > > > 3. I have noted your feedback about Chara Karaka replacements. But> > Mangal Moola Dasha is that of a Graha in the 8th House and > afflicts the> > Moon causing Curse of Mother. Mars is the greater malefic and > shows the> > 10th House (work) as one of the source areas through which mental > trials> > can ensue. The other is 3rd (initiative) joined both Arudha Lagna > and> > Darapada.> > > > 4. The detachment present in the Shani-Chandra Yoga is also > triggered by> > the malefic Moola Dasha. You have been able to detach yourself > (Shani)> > from the flux of things (Moon).> > > > 5. Depth (Shani) psychology (Chandra) of Carl Jung and related > studies> > in Comparative Mythology can also be traced to these Yogas. I have > some> > similar placements and Matri Shrapa with exalted Moon. In the Sade-> Sati> > triggering the Shani-Chandra Yoga in the 10th House, and in Rahu > Moola> > Dasha, I came close to the works of Joseph Campbell who relied > heavily> > on Jung and archetypal thought. If you move closer to traditional> > remedies in the future, you could remedy this Shrapa by worshipping> > Brihaspati, Guru of Jupiter, the lord of the 2nd House where the > Shrapa> > occurs.> > > > 6. Vimshottari Antardasha of Rahu can certainly give heterodox > thinking> > and might attune the mind and enable stimuli coming from society > so that> > they are interpreted and perceived with the Karakattwa of Rahu. > But deep> > seated spiritual experiences (root of past Karma) might be better> > examined from the Moola Dasha and Jupiter and Venus would explain > them> > better. Jupiter connotes the highest flights of mental/ > philosophical> > thought while Shukra as the Atmakaraka will give events related to > the> > purpose of the soul in this incarnation.> > > > 7. This will be felt in the intellect as the Lagna Lord Shani (Paka> > Lagna/ applied intelligence) is involved in the Shrapa. Personal> > manifestation of Karma related to the Moola Dasha of Mangal is > ensured> > due to the involvement of the Lagnesh and the 8th House (Nija).> > > > Regards,> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent"> > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sharat,> > > Thank you for replying. Your predictions definitely have some > truth> > > to them, but they do not represent the experiences that stood > out.> > > First, my Rahu antara ran from May 2003 - May 2006. Yes, my> > > reputation at work was and even now isnt very good. But there > was no> > > specific defamation, accusations or cheating that occurred then. > The> > > real change happened in 2001 when I had my first child. I > pointedly> > > made a decision to spend time with family rather than continue > the> > > 16 hrs/day materialistic grind. It is quite possible that I was> > > denied promotions, but it was almost a conscious decision for me> > > i.e. nothing I didnt expect. My reputation at work in general has> > > remained as someone who is extremely capable but isnt willing> > > to "put in the effort" due to his "personal problems" :-)> > >> > > But my point is: Rahu antara didnt show any specific Rahu-ness in> > > this area - the reputation at work had been slowly degrading (and> > > still is) both before, after and during Rahu antara. The only > area I> > > saw true Rahu-ness was that ever since 2002 (1.25 years before > Rahu> > > antara started) I had this growing spirituality. Rahu antara> > > suddenly crystallized this all for me, right after it began. I> > > suddenly drifted on the works of C.G. Jung and quickly almost as > a> > > divine blessing understood the connections between science,> > > psychology and spirituality. I can see this as true Rahu-ness in > the> > > sense that this understanding was (and still is) totally against> > > traditional understanding. I also had these incredibly deep > dreams a> > > few months before my son was born which led me to be believe that> > > either he or I or we had some deep spiritual past.> > >> > > Net result of this description that I want to bring to this> > > discussion is: I dont really want to bore you with the details, > but> > > what I am trying to say is that it is still not crystal clear to > me> > > in terms of personal experience that Rahu always manifests as > bad,> > > simply different, non-traditional. If these people who wronged> > > Sanjayji were bad because of their Rahus, then how come Rafalji > isnt> > > so? Because it balances out in his chart? Then how do we know it> > > doesnt "balance" out in their charts? And I have presented my > case> > > as an "unbalanced" Rahu - i.e. Rahu's influence is not annulled > by> > > other counterbalancing influence - no parivartana, no benefic> > > aspect. And I am not lying when I tell you that Rahu's antara was> > > spiritually uplifting, if anything. In Sanjayji's own chart, I > can> > > see the Kapata yoga manifesting that made his experiences so > (i.e.> > > being cheated), but is Kapata yoga specific to Rahu only or > malefics> > > in general? So again, where is the decisive finger pointing at > Rahu,> > > and not just malefics in general?> > >> > > Still confused,> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Sundeep> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > sohamsa , "Sharat" gidoc@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > >> > > > Dear Sundeep,> > > >> > > > The Nodes act the level of the mind. Ra in AL in 3H, gives you> > > > 'initiative' but you can have sudden setbacks due to ' > cheating';> > > > further it is never good to have Ra conjunct with AL, as it can> > > give> > > > you' defamation' and ' accusations'. Ra is also conjucting A7,> > > darapada,> > > > so this 'accusation,defamation' can come from partners. Lord > of AL> > > is> > > > Mangal, also lord of 10H, so it can also invlove the way you > work> > > or> > > > work place. Rahu is aspecting 9H of bhagya and dharma, which is> > > not good> > > > either. 9H has Ketu, which means you should worship Ganesh and> > > Durga to> > > > combat Rahu's intentions.> > > >> > > > You are running Shukra mahadasha. MD being 2nd from Sun, shows> > > you are> > > > giving to the world.Rahu AD will be dominating though,it is > 10th> > > from> > > > Moon as it is in parivartan with Guru, it is also AL,shows you > are> > > > experiencing benefit in your work although it requires some > strife> > > and> > > > hard work, as it is also 3rd from lagna.> > > >> > > > This is my humble opinion and open to correction.> > > >> > > > Best wishes> > > >> > > > Sharat> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastrostudent"> > > > <vedicastrostudent@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji,> > > > > I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a > hard> > > > > time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to > me,> > > even> > > > > though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd > in> > > AL> > > > > in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi-> > > dristi).> > > > > Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No> > > planets> > > > > have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras.> > > > >> > > > > How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa > (Venus is> > > > > AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements > in my> > > > > chart).> > > > >> > > > > One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a> > > > > professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own > chart> > > is> > > > > packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced > I> > > had a> > > > > relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside > of> > > > > marriage.> > > > >> > > > > What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, > 23:00pm,> > > > > 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > Sundeep> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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