Guest guest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Dear Ramadas Rao Ji and other Friends, I have a humble submission to offer, 1. Why this lady do not have faith in the words of Lord Narasiimha, which were revealed to her through Chief Priest. 2. 5th house is occupied by Rahu, both 9th and 11th houses are badly afflicted, which happens to be 5th and 7th houses from 5th house. In such cases marriage is difficult, if not denied. 3. Mercury sub- dasa is running in Venus Major period. Venus is in R/K axis both in D-9 and D-7. Mercury is in 8th house in D-7 chart. 4. Her daughter is born in Ktittika , the massage is clear that she should marry her daughter to Lord and perform all worship as per rituals prescribed by temple chief priest Rest will be taken care by Lord himself. REGARDS G.K.GOEL sohamsa wrote: sohamsa Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1.1. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Anurag Sharma 1.2. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Rafal Gendarz 1.3. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Anurag Sharma 1.4. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran amar 2a. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Sarbani Sarkar Rath 2b. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2c. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2d. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2e. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2f. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2g. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2h. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2i. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Anurag Sharma 2j. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2k. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath vedicastrostudent 2l. Odp: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal G 2m. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath rashmi patel 2n. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath amar 2o. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath amar 2p. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath amar 3a. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Ramadas Rao 3b. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? rama narayanan 3c. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Ramadas Rao 3d. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Ramadas Rao 3e. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? avinash nandan View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1.1. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Posted by: "Anurag Sharma" anuraagsharma27 anuraagsharma27 Fri Jun 1, 2007 6:25 am (PST) |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|Learned Members,While on Navamsha placements, specifically with a view to rectification,proper identification of innate abilities, skills and intervention ofDestiny and God (Grahas in Kendra to Navamsha Lagna) as brought out byZoran's email below, and also in Visti Larsen's lecture on the subject,I remembered a terrific exchange between Pt. Sanjay Rath and PVRNarasimha Rao regarding the latter's Navamsha Chakra rectification. Thisexchange is available in the public archives in the Varahamihira group.I am posting the exchange below in my email for the benefit andrecollection of querists in this thread, learned Jyotishis, JyotishGurus and all concerned.Personally, the real gem that I found in the exchange below was the roleof the 3rd House in the Navamsha Chakra. It had specific relevance inthat I (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India) haveexalted and Vakra Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana in this Bhava along withSvagrahi Chandra in Karka Amsa. In the exchange, Sanjay Ji explains thatthe 3rd House in Navamsha, shows 'what we do with our hands'. In otherwords it is in indicator of skill involving hands. I used to writeprofusely in Rahu Vimshottari Dasha but it was Dionysian fiction (Rahu).In Guru Mahadasha, I started writing Jyotish related articles whichreflected the grey zone of the Dasha Sandhi and carried shades of Rahu.As time went on Guru took more of a role in the writing. This seems tohave grown steadily in the Dasha. Even Consultancy related work partakesof the lengthiness of Jupiter's Karakattwa and this reflects in thearticles and papers as well.Please see the exchange below which I found to be very enriching.Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com'>http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com[Jagannath] Re: Narasimha's D-60 etc (Sanjay's deities)Hamsa Om So'hamDear Narasimha,When correcting the navamsa, please stick to navamsa. How are we goingto arrive at any decision if you keep on deviating into higher divisionswithout fixing the navamsa? My additional comments are below: ->> My father had already taken the time a little before the> first cry time. My father insists that Aries navamsa is> simply impossible.RATH: PLEASE ASK YOUR FATHER (HUMBLY) TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS ON THEREASONSFOR THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.> > > He said navamsa lagna in Taurus gives me some orientation towards> > > aesthetic things and pleasures.> > RATH :Any influence of Venus will give this.>> Yes, but this orientation towards aesthetic things is a> *salient* feature of my personality. Even as I think deeply> about the difference between Jupiter in 8th and 9th in> navamsa, I appreciate some music and some part of my body> taps to the music involuntarily. Right now, I am listening> to some music as I type this. The sense of aesthetic> well-being is a salient part of me.RATH: THERE ARE A LOT OF WESTERN ASTROLOGY CONCEPTS CREEPING INTOJYOTISH.MUSIC HAS TWO ASPECTS AND BOTH ARE RULED BY THE LUMINARIES. THAT IS WHYMUSIC IS SAID TO BE LIFE REJUVINATING. THE SUN RULES THE RHYTHEM & BEATWHILE THE MOON RULES THE MELODY AND SINGING, THE MOON SHOULD BE INTRINES ORTHE THIRD HOUSE FOR ABILITY TO COMPOSE POETRY, THE VENUS IN THE THIRDHOUSEGIVES THE ABILITY TO DECORATE OR PAINT.> Venus being lagna lord and occupying 2nd (house of general> taste) with Moon explains it better than Venus merely> aspecting lagna lord. Venusian and lunar influence on lagna> will be very small if I have Ar lagna.RATH: THE THIRD IS AN IMPORTANT HOUSE OF SKILLS IN THE NAVAMSA AS ITSHOWSWHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS AND ALSO RULED DHI SHAKTI TO THE EXTENT OFUTILISING THESE SKILLS. THE BEST PAINTERS HAVE VENUS IN THE THIRD IN THENAVAMSA. THUS IN BOTH THE CASES WE SEE THESE SKILLS.> Jupiter in 8th may produce a fool, but he is in his> moolatrikona here. In D-27, he is with Mercury in a> Mercurian sign. In D-24, he is in Pisces. Considering all> these, Jupiter in 8th in D-9 did not make me a fool and> only tuned my "dhee" in the direction of the hidden.RATH: AGAIN YOU ARE DEVIATING INTO OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS.> In any case, one who ignores what is in his front and keeps> searching for hidden things is a fool in a sense!RATH: NO, NO STREATCHING PLEASE. START USING PHILOSOPHY AND JYTISH RULESGOFOR A SIX. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALMOST EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IN THIS WAY.> If Jupiter in Sg is in 9th in D-9, it is unlikely to give> such "nigoodha tattva jijnasa" (the expression my father> used catches my spirit so well!) and one's intelligence is> likely to have the spirit of *conforming* and one will be> an obedient and conforming learner (which I am not). Even> as I respect my guru and his teachings, I always tend to> think that something is missing and I am always searching> for it. This makes excellent sense with Jupiter in 8th in> D-9. Jupiter in 9th may not give that spirit. I doubt it.RATH: THIS QUESTIONING COMES FROM THE INHERENT NATURE OF ARIES. WHEREDOESIT SAY ABOUT BEING A CONFIRMING LEARNER? JUPITER IN THE NINTH WILL SHOWONEWHO WILL USE CONSIDERABLE DHI SHAKTI FOR LEARNING. IT PRODUCES ONE WITHABROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE AND ALSO GIVES SKILLS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE & SCRIPTURES.> So, in a sense, I am a fool. But Jupiter's positive> strength in some divisions makes me a fool with a purpose.RATH: NO, THIS IS AGAIN STRETCHING THE POINT AND USING OTHER DIVISIONS.> > CONSTELLATION OF RAHU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAVAMSA HOUSE> PLACEMENT. IN>> No, I did not say there is a link. But both together> beautifully explain the direction in which my "dhee" is> tuned. I find my father's point very fascinating.RATH: THIS FASCINATION AND LIKES AND DISLIKES COME IN THE WAY OF REALANALYSIS. GET OVER IT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS I *REALLY* BELIEVED THAT MYNAVAMSAIS LIBRA AS THE RECORDED TIME SAID SO. AFTER ALL THERE WERE AS MANY ASEIGHTLADIES INSIDE THE BEDROOM, THE LADY DOCTOR HAD BEEN SPENDING THE DAY ATHOMEAND THERE WERE TWO NURSES AS WELL. MY GRANNIES WERE HAVING A SMALL PARTYANDONE WAS EVEN GIVING A RUNNING COMMENTARY! YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN BE ININDIA WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES. THE HOSPITAL HAD COMEHOME!AND THUS I WAS ALSO NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANY LOGIC. WHEN I WAS TOLDTHAT VENUS IN THE SECONE ASPECTED BY MARS FROM THE 8TH PRODUCES....MYANSWERWAS THAT KETU IS ALSO PLACED IN SCORPIO IN THE SECOND AND SHALL SINGLEHANDEDLY DEMOLISH THAT EVIL COMBINATION JUST LIKE GANESHA CURSED TULSITOBURN IN HER PASSION DUE TO HAVING DISTURBED HIS PENANCE UNTIL SHE WASRESCUED BY VISHNU. TODAY AFTER SEEING SO MANY CHARTS WITH SUCHCOMBINATIONS,I HAVE HUMBLY ACCEPTED WHAT WAS TAUGHT.IT IS NOT THAT I DISRESPECT MY ELDERS, BUT JUST THAT IT WAS MY OWNFORTUNE OR DAWN OF KNOWLEDGE OF SORTS. (OTHERS CAN CHECK MY NAVAMSA DOB:7AUG 1963; 9:15'pm IST; SAMBALPUR, INDIA 21N28 84E01).>> > FACT IF JUPITER IS IN THE NINTH HOUSE IN THE NAVAMSA THE NATIVESHALL> > RESPECT HIS GURU AND SHALL BE MOST DUTIFUL TOWARDS THEM. DR RAMAN> NEVER> > TAUGHT YOU JYOTISH PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU READ HIS BOOKS, LIKE> > EKALAVYA YOU BECAME DEVOTED TO HIM AND HAVE EVEN TAKEN UP CUDGELS> AGAINST K> > N RAO WHEN HE SPOKE ILL OF DR RAMAN. THEY WAY YOU DEFENDED DR RAMAN> SPEAKS> > VOLUMES AND I HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GURU SHOULD BE VERY> STRONG> > INFLUENCE IN YOUR DHARMA. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS FELT THAT YOURNAVAMSA> SHOULD>> That point has some strength in it. However, there were> many occasions in the past when I confronted my guru in> public over disagreements. I wasn't really an obedient> sishya in the true sense.>> It is true that I tend to behave like a warrior when one> does something adharmik (in my view). Sri K.N.Rao made some> cheap allegations on Dr. Raman in his books and that made> me mad. However, if someone politely says that Raman> ayanamsa is wrong, I will only say "I agree".>> Why Dr. Raman, let's take you. I always make my respect for> you known, but did I take your side when I was convinced> otherwise? For example, you talked about "the very strong> character of my friend" Goravani and forwarded to> vedic astrology list his mail in which he banned Chandra> Hari on GJlist. That suggested to me that you wanted me to> do the same thing on vedic astrology list. Did I do it?> First, when Chandra Hari abused you, I gently admonished> him. Later, as you crossed swords with him and deviated to> unnecessary things (tantrik, serpant's poison etc), did I> take your side?>> I don't think I am an obedient sishya who would always> obey and protect his guru.RATH: WHO SAYS YOU DISOBEYED? WHY SHOULD A SISYA BE A DOG? YOU DID WHATYOUFELT RIGHT AND I DID WHAT I FELT RIGHT. IF HE TRIES TO TALK ABOUT THEEFFECTOF THE MANTRA THAT I AM DOING OR TRIES TO GIVE A SUBTLE THREAT ABOUT HISTANTRIK POWERS, WELL, I JUST PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. THAT CHANDRA HAS NOIDEAOF WHAT TANTRICISM CAN BE. HE SHOULD MEET THE LIKES OF BHAGAVAN MISHRAORTHE KONTILO MAHARAJ OF BHOOTA SIDDHI WHO PERFORMED ANNUAL HUMANSACRIFICESUNTIL I PREVAILED UPON MY UNCLE TO PUT HIM BEHIND BARS. HE WAS SENT TOTHELOCK UP AND IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST TANTRICS AND BLACK MAGICIANS WHOINDULGEIN SUCH TERRIBLE ATROCITIES, I AM THE LAST TO STEP ASIDE. I HAVE MADETHIS AMISSION OF MY LIFE AND I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP OR SUPPORT ON OR OFFANYLIST IN ANY FORM OR MANNER. THE ONLY ONE I NEED IN THIS IS SRI JAGANNATHMAHAPRABHU. SO, LETS LEAVE CHANDRA OUT OF THIS NAVAMSA DISCUSSION.MY READING IS THAT CHANDRA IS DOWN, BUT NOT OUT.> Jupiter need not be in 9th to give a good sense of dharma.> Dharma karaka Sun in 9th in D-9 also gives a good sense of> dharma.RATH: KINDLY TELL ME WHERE YOU READ THIS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF DHARMASHASTRAFROM THE SUN. SUN IS THE EXECUTIVE KING WHO IS GUIDED INTO EXECUTION BYJUPITER EITHER AS THE KNOWLEDGABLE OR AS DIVINITY (GOD). THAT IS WHYJUPITERIN THE 8TH GIVES ASURA YOGA.> D-27 (Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa) is the chart of strengths and> weaknesses. Fiery Mars in his moolatrikona (fiery Aries)> occupies the 9th house (dharma) in my D-27 (with the middle> one-third of Taurus navamsa). That gives me an adament,> independent and warrior-like spirit of dharma. Each of the> three adjectives I used is absolutely appropriate when> describing my sense of dharma.RATH: THIS SPIRIT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE MARTIAN SIGN ARIES RISINGWITHJUPITER IN THE NINTH WITH MARS. AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH MARSGIVESYOU A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDANCE AND THAT TOO OF THE MARTIAN KIND, ANDTHATTOO IN MATTERS OF DHARMA (NINTH HOUSE). AGAIN YOU ARE GOING INTO OTHERDIVISIONS.> > RATH: I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE. YOU CANNOT HAVE VENUS> IN THE> > SECOND HOUSE ASPECTED BY MARS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC COMBINATION> FOR A> > CHARACTERLESS PERSON (WOMANIZER TO BE PRECISE). THE CONJUNCTION OF> MOON AND> > JUPITER DOES NOT REDUCE THIS, BUT ONLY INCREASES IT. IN VIEW OF THE> ABOVE,> > THE NAVAMSA LAGNA CANNOT BE TAURUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.>> We are a mixture of who our horoscope says we are, who we> strive to be and who our upasana makes us to be.>> Venus in 2nd with Martian aspect creates too much passion> and it could be said to be true in my case. You said Moon> and Jupiter increase it. But Jupiter is the strongest of> the 4 planets there and can't he suppress the passion with> upasana?RATH: NO, JUPITER IS EXPANSIVE BY NATURE AND WILL EXPAND THIS *CREATIVE*POTENTIAL ALSO. I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT PASSION STATEMENT YOU MADEABOUTYOURSELF. NOW THIS STATEMENT IS ALSO PROVING THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS ARIESWITHMARS IN THE NINTH HOUSE. JUST TO PROVE THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS TAURUS, YOUWILLSTART ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE PASSIONATE, HAVE ASURIC QUALITIES, ANDEVERYTHING THAT I SAY WOULD BE INDICATED. NO, I AM NOT GOING TO ACCEPTTHISABOUT YOU. IN A WAY I ADMIRE YOU. I DID EXACTLY THIS SAME THIS MANYYEARSBACK! SOMETIMES GOD GIVES IT BACK IN THIS LIFE.>> My father told me at a young age that I would either become> an unprincipled and perverted person addicted to alcohol> and such things or a very spiritual person of extraordinary> achievements. He told me one of the two extremes would> take place.RATH: HE SAID THIS FROM THE RASI CHART DUE TO THE PLANETS IN THE EIGHTHHOUSE WHICH CAN GO EITHER WAY. THE DHARMAKARMADIPATI YOGA CAN MAKE YOU AVERY PRINCIPLED MAN OR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE 8TH CAN MAKE YOU A GONECASE.AGAIN THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA DISCUSIION AND I AGREE WITH YOURFATHERSREADINGS OF THE CHART.> He told me that Jupiter has a very strong influence on the> whole rasi chart and on the whole navamsa chart and he told> me to capture that influence with upasana. Because he is in> Swathi, Jupiter will become very favorable with upasana and> he is the only one who can steer my life in the right> direction through the considerable influence he has in my> rasi and navamsa charts. This was my father's instruction> and he made me start my upasana at a young age. All that> upasana surely had its effect and channelled the Jovian> influence in my rasi and navamsa charts.RATH: I AGREE WITH THE EFFECTS OF UPASANA, BUT WHAT YOU SAY FITS BETTERWITHTHE JUPITER IN THE NINTH IN NAVAMSA WHEREBY YOUR FATHER ACTUALLY BECOMESYOUR GURU.> Yes and I have already indicated that my marital life> wasn't smooth at all in the last 3-4 years.>RATH: NEITHER WAS MINE, NOR WAS THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY PERSON I KNOW. BUTTHEMARRIAGE SURVIVES AND THIS ONLY PROVES MY POINT. IN FACT THE MARRIAGEWILLSURVIVE A LONG TIME AND LET ME MAKE THIS PREDICTION NOW AND HERE "THATYOUWILL SURVIVE YOUR WIFE". PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO PADMAJA. IN INDIA, THISISSTILL CONSIDERED A GREAT BLESSING FOR THE LADY.* * *>> > What is the real implication of the seventh Lord of Rasi Chart> being> > placed in the 8th house in Navamsa. Will Jupiter be in the 8th house> in the> > Navamsa? Then which planet gave you the knowledge of Sanskrit?>> Jupiter.>> D-24 is the chart of education. In my D-24, Jupiter is very> strong in Pisces. He aspects the lagna and 4th house and> that gave me knowledge of Sanskrit at a young age.RATH; AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. THIS IS THE DHARMA AMSAANDTHIS IS WHAT WE BRING WITH US FROM THE LAST LIFE. IN FACT FIRST STUDYTHERASI & NAVAMS AND THEN ONLY ENTER THE OTHER DIVISIONS. HAVE YOU MADE THED-24 OF A RIKSHAW PULLER? I WILL DISCUSS THIS DIVISIONS LATER.> Whenever I get recognition for my knowledge (state first, a> request for interview, class first at IIT etc), Li, Ge and> Aq are involved in Narayana dasa. With Ge lagna, lord of Ge> is in 5th (Li). AL is in Aq and Ge is the 5th from AL (and> Li has the 5th lord from AL).RATH: WE SHALL COME TO THIS AND YOU WILL ALSO AGREE THEN THAT THE DASAISCORRECT. FIRST, LET US FIX THE NAVAMSA.> My main strength in life has been the ability to learn and> grasp things very quickly. D-24 lagna lord Mercury in 5th> fits well IMHO. If you change navamsa lagna, D-24 lagna> changes from Ge to Ta.RATH: AGAIN OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS NOW.> D-20 lagna also changes if we change D-9 lagna to Ar. With> the current Ta lagna in D-20, Mercury is in 2nd in own> house and lagna lord Venus is debilitated in 5th, aspected> by Mercury. My family deity is Narayana (Mercury). My ishta> daiva are Sri Maha Lakshmi (debilitated planet: goddess and> Venus: Lakshmi) and Narayana.RATH: WHY NOT MERCURY IN THE FOURTH HOUSE IN D-20? ANYWAY WE SHALL COMETOTHIS LATER.> > How much does the time have to move for the Lagna to be (A) Aries> and> > (B) Gemini?>> To make it Ge, we need to add 7 min 25 sec. To make it Ar,> we need to subtract 6 min 22 sec.>RATH: OK. THEN SUBTRACT THE TIME AND GIVE A CHART FOR ARIES NAVAMSA. ITHINKNARAYAN HAS GIVEN SOME TIMING.BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATHSanjay Rathsohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Rafal,> Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixedkarma.> Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about sexand> coming into many> relationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8thhouse> would not do so.Further> Magnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason I saidto> many relationships, however> Sarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.> I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both Arudhaand> Upapada, terrible for marriage..> Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsa which is> problem. Either he had too many relationships> and remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsa shouldchange> if there were not many relationships..> This is based on a quick look at the chart..> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of> Rafal Gendarz> 1. lipanj 2007 13:07> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran>>> hraum namah adityaya>> Dear Zoranji,>> Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga sayno> relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsashows> many relationship...which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa Yogashows> delays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this strengththe> other yogas? How You would resolve this?>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com>> amar napisal(a):>>> Om Namah Shivaya,> I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12thhouse> leave you unmarried.> Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement fromNavamsa> should also give the same,> unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th house in> Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.> I think your chart need rectification.Current navamsa Lagna shows too> many relationships...> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On> Behalf Of ND> 1. lipanj 2007 2:21> sohamsa > RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran>>> Dear Zoran,>> I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply to Rahu> lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never beenmarried.> [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N 31]>> Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed in this> thread.>> regards,> ND>> amar ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Rafal,> Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On> Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> 31. svibanj 2007 8:33> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay>>> hare rama krsna>> Dear Zoran ,>> Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is very> planning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste (Jupiter).So SC> is rejected.>> Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> amar napisal(a):> Dear Rafal,> I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however I was> taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.> In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu Navamsa> Lagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I am not> saying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,> however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.> Regards> Zoran> > sohamsa > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> 30. svibanj 2007 9:01> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay>>> hare rama krsna>> Dear Zoran,>> I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for some> clarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for thispurpose and> these are correct.>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> amar napisal(a):> Dear Rafal,> How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda nor> Pranapada are correct.> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> 29. svibanj 2007 19:11> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay>>> hare rama krsna>> Dear Anurag,>> Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. I> recall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightage than> general lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I found its> working.>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> Anurag Sharma napisal(a):> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> Dear Rafal,> Namaskar.> I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,> Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from theAK> face difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course, ifthere> is confluence of more factors affecting one life area in the MaranaKaraka> Sthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.> In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,> Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK. Ilost my> father when I was an infant. Of course, there are several otherfeatures in> the chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.> Regards,> Anurag Sharma> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hare rama krsna*> >> > Dear Anurag,> >> > Very good points.> >> > I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve (or> at least 2) must> > be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H but that> for certain can be> > problem..but small.> >> > Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru in kona> gives chaste> > lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ive> found one good mail> > from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflicting Guru> so the ghosts> > take the chastity away..rather sad state of affairs.> >> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal@> > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > > Another reason for problems in getting married could> be the fact that> > > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are in Marana> Karaka Sthana from> > > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea and the> people who arrive> > > to take on the role of spouse.> > >> > > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take it to be> just Guru alone> > > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as it> obtains in the Rashi?> > > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone in> Vrishchik and giving> > > great innate wisdom and width of philosophical> thought, purity etc OR> > > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Anurag Sharma> > >> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> > > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > > >> > > > *Ramadasji:*> > > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility of> Rasis? Pls elaborate.> > > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show bad> experience, no delay. Infact> > > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspect can> be good and often> > > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa gives> Kuja-bhanga) .> > > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:> Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Surya tell us> about strength of> > > > attachement.> > > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say about> marriage?> > > >> > > > *Anuragji:*> > > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and not bad> marriage?> > > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru in> Vrscika Lagna D9.> > > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing to do> with delay.> > > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, and when> Lord is there then its> > > > changed,> > > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > > >> > > > Still there are two (I see three more) things> which needs to be> > > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> > > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > The following points are important in causing> delay in marriage in> > > the> > > > > present chart :> > > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, another> fixed Rashi,its lord> > > Shani> > > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in a> chara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who is Vakra> ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani and> afflicted by the> > > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja as Shani> is involved in 7th> > > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7th house.> > > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted by the> nodes.> > > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is with Mandi.> > > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra is> within 42 Degs.20' and> > > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse. Rahu is> at a higher> > > longitude> > > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu is> coming near to Surya to> > > > > swallow him.> > > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7th lord> Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factor in> delaying the marriage.> > > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,Sarpa Shaapa,Stree> Shaapa and chanting of> > > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > >> > > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > > >> > > > > *Krishna:> > > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > *Anurag:*> > > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, not> neccesarily delay.> > > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > > >> > > > > You missed one or two important point(s), please> see again.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > >> Namaskar.> > > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.> There may be a> > > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibit> conflicts of interest> > > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse of> Jupiter caused by Surya> > > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondary> Curse of Venus. The> > > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted by Mangal> and Shani.> > > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lord Rahu> showing that> > > > >> marriage and relationships shall be the focal> area of the> > > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and 8th> Lord are involved.> > > > >> It can be remedied.> > > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondary> Kalatra Shrapa in the> > > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the 7th> House, Shani is> > > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved in> Curses showing some> > > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupies the> 9th Bhava in> > > > >> Navamsha.> > > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th House from> the AL.> > > > >> Regards,> > > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.> com> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> --- In sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> <starsuponme@ ...>> > > > >> wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person, who> was not married yet> > > > >> altough> > > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa of Naisargik> = delayed). There> > > > >> were some> > > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > > >> > *> > > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 serious doshas)> and waiting for Your> > > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which support> delay ?> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Regards,> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > >> > email: rafal@> > > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > > --------- ------> > > > > Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT> > > > > <http://us.rd. / mail/in/ywebmess> enger/*http:> > > //in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>> > > > > from any browser, without download.> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>>-------------------------\--> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to> Answers.> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (44) 1.2. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 7:42 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Anuragji,I also have this discussion. Nice piece.Skills part is also covered in one lecture from Varga chakra book. There is descripiton of every graha.In this chart this is problem because even if we take Dhanus Lg (like Zoranji advocates) then still Guru and Rahu are in Paka giving some abilities. Then Venus in lagna gives creativity and strong psyche. Yes person is like that.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comAnurag Sharma napisa?(a):>> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|>> Learned Members,>> While on Navamsha placements, specifically with a view to > rectification, proper identification of innate abilities, skills and > intervention of Destiny and God (Grahas in Kendra to Navamsha Lagna) > as brought out by Zoran's email below, and also in Visti Larsen's > lecture on the subject, I remembered a terrific exchange between Pt. > Sanjay Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao regarding the latter's Navamsha > Chakra rectification. This exchange is available in the public > archives in the Varahamihira group. I am posting the exchange below in > my email for the benefit and recollection of querists in this thread, > learned Jyotishis, Jyotish Gurus and all concerned.>> Personally, the real gem that I found in the exchange below was the > role of the 3rd House in the Navamsha Chakra. It had specific > relevance in that I (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > India) have exalted and Vakra Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana in this > Bhava along with Svagrahi Chandra in Karka Amsa. In the exchange, > Sanjay Ji explains that the 3rd House in Navamsha, shows 'what we do > with our hands'. In other words it is in indicator of skill involving > hands. I used to write profusely in Rahu Vimshottari Dasha but it was > Dionysian fiction (Rahu).>> In Guru Mahadasha, I started writing Jyotish related articles which > reflected the grey zone of the Dasha Sandhi and carried shades of > Rahu. As time went on Guru took more of a role in the writing. This > seems to have grown steadily in the Dasha. Even Consultancy related > work partakes of the lengthiness of Jupiter's Karakattwa and this > reflects in the articles and papers as well.>> Please see the exchange below which I found to be very enriching.>> Regards,>> Anurag Sharma>> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com>> [Jagannath] Re: Narasimha's D-60 etc (Sanjay's deities)>> >> Hamsa Om So'ham> Dear Narasimha,> When correcting the navamsa, please stick to navamsa. How are we going> to arrive at any decision if you keep on deviating into higher divisions> without fixing the navamsa? My additional comments are below: ->>> >> > My father had already taken the time a little before the> > first cry time. My father insists that Aries navamsa is> > simply impossible.> RATH: PLEASE ASK YOUR FATHER (HUMBLY) TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS ON THE REASONS> FOR THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.>> > > > He said navamsa lagna in Taurus gives me some orientation towards> > > > aesthetic things and pleasures.> > > RATH :Any influence of Venus will give this.> >> > Yes, but this orientation towards aesthetic things is a> > *salient* feature of my personality. Even as I think deeply> > about the difference between Jupiter in 8th and 9th in> > navamsa, I appreciate some music and some part of my body> > taps to the music involuntarily. Right now, I am listening> > to some music as I type this. The sense of aesthetic> > well-being is a salient part of me.> RATH: THERE ARE A LOT OF WESTERN ASTROLOGY CONCEPTS CREEPING INTO JYOTISH.> MUSIC HAS TWO ASPECTS AND BOTH ARE RULED BY THE LUMINARIES. THAT IS WHY> MUSIC IS SAID TO BE LIFE REJUVINATING. THE SUN RULES THE RHYTHEM & BEAT> WHILE THE MOON RULES THE MELODY AND SINGING, THE MOON SHOULD BE IN > TRINES OR> THE THIRD HOUSE FOR ABILITY TO COMPOSE POETRY, THE VENUS IN THE THIRD > HOUSE> GIVES THE ABILITY TO DECORATE OR PAINT.>> > Venus being lagna lord and occupying 2nd (house of general> > taste) with Moon explains it better than Venus merely> > aspecting lagna lord. Venusian and lunar influence on lagna> > will be very small if I have Ar lagna.>> */ RATH: THE THIRD IS AN IMPORTANT HOUSE OF SKILLS IN THE NAVAMSA AS > IT SHOWS> WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS AND ALSO RULED DHI SHAKTI TO THE EXTENT OF> UTILISING THESE SKILLS. THE BEST PAINTERS HAVE VENUS IN THE THIRD IN THE> NAVAMSA. THUS IN BOTH THE CASES WE SEE THESE SKILLS. /* */> /*> > Jupiter in 8th may produce a fool, but he is in his> > moolatrikona here. In D-27, he is with Mercury in a> > Mercurian sign. In D-24, he is in Pisces. Considering all> > these, Jupiter in 8th in D-9 did not make me a fool and> > only tuned my "dhee" in the direction of the hidden.>> RATH: AGAIN YOU ARE DEVIATING INTO OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS.>>> > In any case, one who ignores what is in his front and keeps> > searching for hidden things is a fool in a sense!>> RATH: NO, NO STREATCHING PLEASE. START USING PHILOSOPHY AND JYTISH > RULES GO> FOR A SIX. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALMOST EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IN THIS WAY.>> > If Jupiter in Sg is in 9th in D-9, it is unlikely to give> > such "nigoodha tattva jijnasa" (the expression my father> > used catches my spirit so well!) and one's intelligence is> > likely to have the spirit of *conforming* and one will be> > an obedient and conforming learner (which I am not). Even> > as I respect my guru and his teachings, I always tend to> > think that something is missing and I am always searching> > for it. This makes excellent sense with Jupiter in 8th in> > D-9. Jupiter in 9th may not give that spirit. I doubt it.>> RATH: THIS QUESTIONING COMES FROM THE INHERENT NATURE OF ARIES. WHERE DOES> IT SAY ABOUT BEING A CONFIRMING LEARNER? JUPITER IN THE NINTH WILL > SHOW ONE> WHO WILL USE CONSIDERABLE DHI SHAKTI FOR LEARNING. IT PRODUCES ONE WITH A> BROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE AND ALSO GIVES SKILLS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE & > SCRIPTURES.>> > So, in a sense, I am a fool. But Jupiter's positive> > strength in some divisions makes me a fool with a purpose.>> RATH: NO, THIS IS AGAIN STRETCHING THE POINT AND USING OTHER DIVISIONS.>>> > > CONSTELLATION OF RAHU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAVAMSA HOUSE> > PLACEMENT. IN> >> > No, I did not say there is a link. But both together> > beautifully explain the direction in which my "dhee" is> > tuned. I find my father's point very fascinating.>> RATH: THIS FASCINATION AND LIKES AND DISLIKES COME IN THE WAY OF REAL> ANALYSIS. GET OVER IT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS I *REALLY* BELIEVED THAT MY > NAVAMSA> IS LIBRA AS THE RECORDED TIME SAID SO. AFTER ALL THERE WERE AS MANY AS > EIGHT> LADIES INSIDE THE BEDROOM, THE LADY DOCTOR HAD BEEN SPENDING THE DAY > AT HOME> AND THERE WERE TWO NURSES AS WELL. MY GRANNIES WERE HAVING A SMALL > PARTY AND> ONE WAS EVEN GIVING A RUNNING COMMENTARY! YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN BE IN> INDIA WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES. THE HOSPITAL HAD COME > HOME!> AND THUS I WAS ALSO NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANY LOGIC. WHEN I WAS TOLD> THAT VENUS IN THE SECONE ASPECTED BY MARS FROM THE 8TH PRODUCES.... MY > ANSWER> WAS THAT KETU IS ALSO PLACED IN SCORPIO IN THE SECOND AND SHALL SINGLE> HANDEDLY DEMOLISH THAT EVIL COMBINATION JUST LIKE GANESHA CURSED TULSI TO> BURN IN HER PASSION DUE TO HAVING DISTURBED HIS PENANCE UNTIL SHE WAS> RESCUED BY VISHNU. TODAY AFTER SEEING SO MANY CHARTS WITH SUCH > COMBINATIONS,> I HAVE HUMBLY ACCEPTED WHAT WAS TAUGHT.> IT IS NOT THAT I DISRESPECT MY ELDERS, BUT JUST THAT IT WAS MY OWN> FORTUNE OR DAWN OF KNOWLEDGE OF SORTS. (OTHERS CAN CHECK MY NAVAMSA DOB: 7> AUG 1963; 9:15'pm IST; SAMBALPUR, INDIA 21N28 84E01).>> >> > > FACT IF JUPITER IS IN THE NINTH HOUSE IN THE NAVAMSA THE NATIVE SHALL> > > RESPECT HIS GURU AND SHALL BE MOST DUTIFUL TOWARDS THEM. DR RAMAN> > NEVER> > > TAUGHT YOU JYOTISH PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU READ HIS BOOKS, LIKE> > > EKALAVYA YOU BECAME DEVOTED TO HIM AND HAVE EVEN TAKEN UP CUDGELS> > AGAINST K> > > N RAO WHEN HE SPOKE ILL OF DR RAMAN. THEY WAY YOU DEFENDED DR RAMAN> > SPEAKS> > > VOLUMES AND I HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GURU SHOULD BE VERY> > STRONG> > > INFLUENCE IN YOUR DHARMA. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS FELT THAT YOUR NAVAMSA> > SHOULD> >> > That point has some strength in it. However, there were> > many occasions in the past when I confronted my guru in> > public over disagreements. I wasn't really an obedient> > sishya in the true sense.> >> > It is true that I tend to behave like a warrior when one> > does something adharmik (in my view). Sri K.N.Rao made some> > cheap allegations on Dr. Raman in his books and that made> > me mad. However, if someone politely says that Raman> > ayanamsa is wrong, I will only say "I agree".> >> > Why Dr. Raman, let's take you. I always make my respect for> > you known, but did I take your side when I was convinced> > otherwise? For example, you talked about "the very strong> > character of my friend" Goravani and forwarded to> > vedic astrology list his mail in which he banned Chandra> > Hari on GJlist. That suggested to me that you wanted me to> > do the same thing on vedic astrology list. Did I do it?> > First, when Chandra Hari abused you, I gently admonished> > him. Later, as you crossed swords with him and deviated to> > unnecessary things (tantrik, serpant's poison etc), did I> > take your side?> >> > I don't think I am an obedient sishya who would always> > obey and protect his guru.>> RATH: WHO SAYS YOU DISOBEYED? WHY SHOULD A SISYA BE A DOG? YOU DID > WHAT YOU> FELT RIGHT AND I DID WHAT I FELT RIGHT. IF HE TRIES TO TALK ABOUT THE > EFFECT> OF THE MANTRA THAT I AM DOING OR TRIES TO GIVE A SUBTLE THREAT ABOUT HIS> TANTRIK POWERS, WELL, I JUST PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. THAT CHANDRA HAS NO > IDEA> OF WHAT TANTRICISM CAN BE. HE SHOULD MEET THE LIKES OF BHAGAVAN MISHRA OR> THE KONTILO MAHARAJ OF BHOOTA SIDDHI WHO PERFORMED ANNUAL HUMAN SACRIFICES> UNTIL I PREVAILED UPON MY UNCLE TO PUT HIM BEHIND BARS. HE WAS SENT TO THE> LOCK UP AND IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST TANTRICS AND BLACK MAGICIANS WHO INDULGE> IN SUCH TERRIBLE ATROCITIES, I AM THE LAST TO STEP ASIDE. I HAVE MADE > THIS A> MISSION OF MY LIFE AND I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP OR SUPPORT ON OR > OFF ANY> LIST IN ANY FORM OR MANNER. THE ONLY ONE I NEED IN THIS IS SRI JAGANNATH> MAHAPRABHU. SO, LETS LEAVE CHANDRA OUT OF THIS NAVAMSA DISCUSSION.> MY READING IS THAT CHANDRA IS DOWN, BUT NOT OUT.>>>> > Jupiter need not be in 9th to give a good sense of dharma.> > Dharma karaka Sun in 9th in D-9 also gives a good sense of> > dharma.>> RATH: KINDLY TELL ME WHERE YOU READ THIS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF DHARMA SHASTRA> FROM THE SUN. SUN IS THE EXECUTIVE KING WHO IS GUIDED INTO EXECUTION BY> JUPITER EITHER AS THE KNOWLEDGABLE OR AS DIVINITY (GOD). THAT IS WHY > JUPITER> IN THE 8TH GIVES ASURA YOGA.>> > D-27 (Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa) is the chart of strengths and> > weaknesses. Fiery Mars in his moolatrikona (fiery Aries)> > occupies the 9th house (dharma) in my D-27 (with the middle> > one-third of Taurus navamsa). That gives me an adament,> > independent and warrior-like spirit of dharma. Each of the> > three adjectives I used is absolutely appropriate when> > describing my sense of dharma.>> RATH: THIS SPIRIT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE MARTIAN SIGN ARIES RISING > WITH> JUPITER IN THE NINTH WITH MARS. AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH MARS GIVES> YOU A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDANCE AND THAT TOO OF THE MARTIAN KIND, AND > THAT> TOO IN MATTERS OF DHARMA (NINTH HOUSE). AGAIN YOU ARE GOING INTO OTHER> DIVISIONS.>> > > RATH: I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE. YOU CANNOT HAVE VENUS> > IN THE> > > SECOND HOUSE ASPECTED BY MARS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC COMBINATION> > FOR A> > > CHARACTERLESS PERSON (WOMANIZER TO BE PRECISE). THE CONJUNCTION OF> > MOON AND> > > JUPITER DOES NOT REDUCE THIS, BUT ONLY INCREASES IT. IN VIEW OF THE> > ABOVE,> > > THE NAVAMSA LAGNA CANNOT BE TAURUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.> >> > We are a mixture of who our horoscope says we are, who we> > strive to be and who our upasana makes us to be.> >> > Venus in 2nd with Martian aspect creates too much passion> > and it could be said to be true in my case. You said Moon> > and Jupiter increase it. But Jupiter is the strongest of> > the 4 planets there and can't he suppress the passion with> > upasana?>> RATH: NO, JUPITER IS EXPANSIVE BY NATURE AND WILL EXPAND THIS *CREATIVE*> POTENTIAL ALSO. I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT PASSION STATEMENT YOU MADE > ABOUT> YOURSELF. NOW THIS STATEMENT IS ALSO PROVING THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS > ARIES WITH> MARS IN THE NINTH HOUSE. JUST TO PROVE THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS TAURUS, > YOU WILL> START ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE PASSIONATE, HAVE ASURIC QUALITIES, AND> EVERYTHING THAT I SAY WOULD BE INDICATED. NO, I AM NOT GOING TO ACCEPT > THIS> ABOUT YOU. IN A WAY I ADMIRE YOU. I DID EXACTLY THIS SAME THIS MANY YEARS> BACK! SOMETIMES GOD GIVES IT BACK IN THIS LIFE.>> >> > My father told me at a young age that I would either become> > an unprincipled and perverted person addicted to alcohol> > and such things or a very spiritual person of extraordinary> > achievements. He told me one of the two extremes would> > take place.>> RATH: HE SAID THIS FROM THE RASI CHART DUE TO THE PLANETS IN THE EIGHTH> HOUSE WHICH CAN GO EITHER WAY. THE DHARMAKARMADIPATI YOGA CAN MAKE YOU A> VERY PRINCIPLED MAN OR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE 8TH CAN MAKE YOU A GONE > CASE.> AGAIN THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA DISCUSIION AND I AGREE WITH YOUR FATHERS> READINGS OF THE CHART.>>> > He told me that Jupiter has a very strong influence on the> > whole rasi chart and on the whole navamsa chart and he told> > me to capture that influence with upasana. Because he is in> > Swathi, Jupiter will become very favorable with upasana and> > he is the only one who can steer my life in the right> > direction through the considerable influence he has in my> > rasi and navamsa charts. This was my father's instruction> > and he made me start my upasana at a young age. All that> > upasana surely had its effect and channelled the Jovian> > influence in my rasi and navamsa charts.>> RATH: I AGREE WITH THE EFFECTS OF UPASANA, BUT WHAT YOU SAY FITS > BETTER WITH> THE JUPITER IN THE NINTH IN NAVAMSA WHEREBY YOUR FATHER ACTUALLY BECOMES> YOUR GURU.>>> > Yes and I have already indicated that my marital life> > wasn't smooth at all in the last 3-4 years.>> >> RATH: NEITHER WAS MINE, NOR WAS THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY PERSON I KNOW. > BUT THE> MARRIAGE SURVIVES AND THIS ONLY PROVES MY POINT. IN FACT THE MARRIAGE WILL> SURVIVE A LONG TIME AND LET ME MAKE THIS PREDICTION NOW AND HERE "THAT YOU> WILL SURVIVE YOUR WIFE". PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO PADMAJA. IN INDIA , THIS IS> STILL CONSIDERED A GREAT BLESSING FOR THE LADY.>> * * *> >> > > What is the real implication of the seventh Lord of Rasi Chart> > being> > > placed in the 8th house in Navamsa. Will Jupiter be in the 8th house> > in the> > > Navamsa? Then which planet gave you the knowledge of Sanskrit?> >> > Jupiter.> >> > D-24 is the chart of education. In my D-24, Jupiter is very> > strong in Pisces. He aspects the lagna and 4th house and> > that gave me knowledge of Sanskrit at a young age.>> RATH; AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. THIS IS THE DHARMA > AMSA AND> THIS IS WHAT WE BRING WITH US FROM THE LAST LIFE. IN FACT FIRST STUDY THE> RASI & NAVAMS AND THEN ONLY ENTER THE OTHER DIVISIONS. HAVE YOU MADE THE> D-24 OF A RIKSHAW PULLER? I WILL DISCUSS THIS DIVISIONS LATER.>> > Whenever I get recognition for my knowledge (state first, a> > request for interview, class first at IIT etc), Li, Ge and> > Aq are involved in Narayana dasa. With Ge lagna, lord of Ge> > is in 5th (Li). AL is in Aq and Ge is the 5th from AL (and> > Li has the 5th lord from AL ).>> RATH: WE SHALL COME TO THIS AND YOU WILL ALSO AGREE THEN THAT THE DASA IS> CORRECT. FIRST, LET US FIX THE NAVAMSA.>> > My main strength in life has been the ability to learn and> > grasp things very quickly. D-24 lagna lord Mercury in 5th> > fits well IMHO. If you change navamsa lagna, D-24 lagna> > changes from Ge to Ta.>> RATH: AGAIN OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS NOW.>> > D-20 lagna also changes if we change D-9 lagna to Ar. With> > the current Ta lagna in D-20, Mercury is in 2nd in own> > house and lagna lord Venus is debilitated in 5th, aspected> > by Mercury. My family deity is Narayana (Mercury). My ishta> > daiva are Sri Maha Lakshmi (debilitated planet: goddess and> > Venus: Lakshmi) and Narayana.>> RATH: WHY NOT MERCURY IN THE FOURTH HOUSE IN D-20? ANYWAY WE SHALL COME TO> THIS LATER.>> > > How much does the time have to move for the Lagna to be (A) Aries> > and> > > (B) Gemini?> >> > To make it Ge, we need to add 7 min 25 sec. To make it Ar,> > we need to subtract 6 min 22 sec.> >> RATH: OK. THEN SUBTRACT THE TIME AND GIVE A CHART FOR ARIES NAVAMSA. I > THINK> NARAYAN HAS GIVEN SOME TIMING.>>> BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATH> Sanjay Rath>> >> sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixed > karma.> > Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about > sex and> > coming into many> > relationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8th house> > would not do so.Further> > Magnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason I said to> > many relationships, however> > Sarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.> > I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both > Arudha and> > Upapada, terrible for marriage..> > Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsa which is> > problem. Either he had too many relationships> > and remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsa should > change> > if there were not many relationships. .> > This is based on a quick look at the chart..> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On > Behalf Of> > Rafal Gendarz> > 1. lipanj 2007 13:07> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> >> >> > hraum namah adityaya> >> > Dear Zoranji,> >> > Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga > say no> > relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsa shows> > many relationship. ..which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa > Yoga shows> > delays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this > strength the> > other yogas? How You would resolve this?> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> >> > amar napisal(a):> >> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12th house> > leave you unmarried.> > Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement from Navamsa> > should also give the same,> > unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th house in> > Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.> > I think your chart need rectification. Current navamsa Lagna shows too> > many relationships. ..> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On> > Behalf Of ND> > 1. lipanj 2007 2:21> > sohamsa@ .com> > RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> >> >> > Dear Zoran,> >> > I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply to Rahu> > lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never been > married.> > [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N 31]> >> > Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed in this> > thread.> >> > regards,> > ND> >> > amar ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 31. svibanj 2007 8:33> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> >> >> > hare rama krsna> >> > Dear Zoran ,> >> > Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is very> > planning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste > (Jupiter). So SC> > is rejected.> >> > Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > amar napisal(a):> > Dear Rafal,> > I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however I was> > taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.> > In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu Navamsa> > Lagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I am not> > saying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,> > however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.> > Regards> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com> > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 30. svibanj 2007 9:01> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> >> >> > hare rama krsna> >> > Dear Zoran,> >> > I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for some> > clarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for this > purpose and> > these are correct.> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > amar napisal(a):> > Dear Rafal,> > How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda nor> > Pranapada are correct.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com> > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 29. svibanj 2007 19:11> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> >> >> > hare rama krsna> >> > Dear Anurag,> >> > Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. I> > recall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightage than> > general lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I found its> > working.> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > Anurag Sharma napisal(a):> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > Dear Rafal,> > Namaskar.> > I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,> > Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from > the AK> > face difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course, > if there> > is confluence of more factors affecting one life area in the Marana > Karaka> > Sthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.> > In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,> > Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK. I > lost my> > father when I was an infant. Of course, there are several other > features in> > the chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.> > Regards,> > Anurag Sharma> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Anurag,> > >> > > Very good points.> > >> > > I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve (or> > at least 2) must> > > be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H but that> > for certain can be> > > problem..but small.> > >> > > Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru in kona> > gives chaste> > > lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ive> > found one good mail> > > from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflicting Guru> > so the ghosts> > > take the chastity away..rather sad state of affairs.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > Namaskar.> > > >> > > > Another reason for problems in getting married could> > be the fact that> > > > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are in Marana> > Karaka Sthana from> > > > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea and the> > people who arrive> > > > to take on the role of spouse.> > > >> > > > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take it to be> > just Guru alone> > > > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as it> > obtains in the Rashi?> > > > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone in> > Vrishchik and giving> > > > great innate wisdom and width of philosophical> > thought, purity etc OR> > > > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > > > >> > > > > *Ramadasji:*> > > > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility of> > Rasis? Pls elaborate.> > > > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show bad> > experience, no delay. Infact> > > > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspect can> > be good and often> > > > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa gives> > Kuja-bhanga) .> > > > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:> > Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Surya tell us> > about strength of> > > > > attachement.> > > > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say about> > marriage?> > > > >> > > > > *Anuragji:*> > > > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and not bad> > marriage?> > > > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru in> > Vrscika Lagna D9.> > > > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing to do> > with delay.> > > > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, and when> > Lord is there then its> > > > > changed,> > > > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > > > >> > > > > Still there are two (I see three more) things> > which needs to be> > > > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > The following points are important in causing> > delay in marriage in> > > > the> > > > > > present chart :> > > > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, another> > fixed Rashi,its lord> > > > Shani> > > > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in a> > chara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who is Vakra> > ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani and> > afflicted by the> > > > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja as Shani> > is involved in 7th> > > > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7th house.> > > > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted by the> > nodes.> > > > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is with Mandi.> > > > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra is> > within 42 Degs.20' and> > > > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse. Rahu is> > at a higher> > > > longitude> > > > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu is> > coming near to Surya to> > > > > > swallow him.> > > > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7th lord> > Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factor in> > delaying the marriage.> > > > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,Sarpa Shaapa,Stree> > Shaapa and chanting of> > > > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > >> > > > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > > > >> > > > > > *Krishna:> > > > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Anurag:*> > > > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, not> > neccesarily delay.> > > > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > > > >> > > > > > You missed one or two important point(s), please> > see again.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> Namaskar.> > > > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.> > There may be a> > > > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibit> > conflicts of interest> > > > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse of> > Jupiter caused by Surya> > > > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondary> > Curse of Venus. The> > > > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted by Mangal> > and Shani.> > > > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lord Rahu> > showing that> > > > > >> marriage and relationships shall be the focal> > area of the> > > > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and 8th> > Lord are involved.> > > > > >> It can be remedied.> > > > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondary> > Kalatra Shrapa in the> > > > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the 7th> > House, Shani is> > > > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved in> > Curses showing some> > > > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupies the> > 9th Bhava in> > > > > >> Navamsha.> > > > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th House from> > the AL.> > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.> > com> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ ...>> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person, who> > was not married yet> > > > > >> altough> > > > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa of Naisargik> > = delayed). There> > > > > >> were some> > > > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > > > >> > *> > > > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 serious doshas)> > and waiting for Your> > > > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which support> > delay ?> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > >> > email: rafal@> > > > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > > > --------- ------> > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem! 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But I will mostcertainly read the Navamsha one again, perhaps even today, if I can.The other ones I recall right away are Sanjay Ji's paper on theShashthyamsha (D-60) and I think Visti's and Sarajit Poddar's papers onthe Siddhamsha (D-24). Just from memory.Interestingly, the resolute 'Author of the Software' has persisted withthe Vrishabh Navamsha Lagna despite the lengthy exchange.Best regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com'>http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com<http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>--- In sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*>> Dear Anuragji,>> I also have this discussion. Nice piece.>> Skills part is also covered in one lecture from Varga chakra book.There> is descripiton of every graha.>> In this chart this is problem because even if we take Dhanus Lg (like> Zoranji advocates) then still Guru and Rahu are in Paka giving some> abilities. Then Venus in lagna gives creativity and strong psyche. Yes> person is like that.>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com>> Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Learned Members,> >> > While on Navamsha placements, specifically with a view to> > rectification, proper identification of innate abilities, skills and> > intervention of Destiny and God (Grahas in Kendra to Navamsha Lagna)> > as brought out by Zoran's email below, and also in Visti Larsen's> > lecture on the subject, I remembered a terrific exchange between Pt.> > Sanjay Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao regarding the latter's Navamsha> > Chakra rectification. This exchange is available in the public> > archives in the Varahamihira group. I am posting the exchange belowin> > my email for the benefit and recollection of querists in thisthread,> > learned Jyotishis, Jyotish Gurus and all concerned.> >> > Personally, the real gem that I found in the exchange below was the> > role of the 3rd House in the Navamsha Chakra. It had specific> > relevance in that I (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack, Orissa,> > India) have exalted and Vakra Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana in this> > Bhava along with Svagrahi Chandra in Karka Amsa. In the exchange,> > Sanjay Ji explains that the 3rd House in Navamsha, shows 'what we do> > with our hands'. In other words it is in indicator of skillinvolving> > hands. I used to write profusely in Rahu Vimshottari Dasha but itwas> > Dionysian fiction (Rahu).> >> > In Guru Mahadasha, I started writing Jyotish related articles which> > reflected the grey zone of the Dasha Sandhi and carried shades of> > Rahu. As time went on Guru took more of a role in the writing. This> > seems to have grown steadily in the Dasha. Even Consultancy related> > work partakes of the lengthiness of Jupiter's Karakattwa and this> > reflects in the articles and papers as well.> >> > Please see the exchange below which I found to be very enriching.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> >> > [Jagannath] Re: Narasimha's D-60 etc (Sanjay's deities)> >> >> >> > Hamsa Om So'ham> > Dear Narasimha,> > When correcting the navamsa, please stick to navamsa. How are wegoing> > to arrive at any decision if you keep on deviating into higherdivisions> > without fixing the navamsa? My additional comments are below: -> >> >> > >> > > My father had already taken the time a little before the> > > first cry time. My father insists that Aries navamsa is> > > simply impossible.> > RATH: PLEASE ASK YOUR FATHER (HUMBLY) TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS ON THEREASONS> > FOR THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.> >> > > > > He said navamsa lagna in Taurus gives me some orientationtowards> > > > > aesthetic things and pleasures.> > > > RATH :Any influence of Venus will give this.> > >> > > Yes, but this orientation towards aesthetic things is a> > > *salient* feature of my personality. Even as I think deeply> > > about the difference between Jupiter in 8th and 9th in> > > navamsa, I appreciate some music and some part of my body> > > taps to the music involuntarily. Right now, I am listening> > > to some music as I type this. The sense of aesthetic> > > well-being is a salient part of me.> > RATH: THERE ARE A LOT OF WESTERN ASTROLOGY CONCEPTS CREEPING INTOJYOTISH.> > MUSIC HAS TWO ASPECTS AND BOTH ARE RULED BY THE LUMINARIES. THAT ISWHY> > MUSIC IS SAID TO BE LIFE REJUVINATING. THE SUN RULES THE RHYTHEM & BEAT> > WHILE THE MOON RULES THE MELODY AND SINGING, THE MOON SHOULD BE IN> > TRINES OR> > THE THIRD HOUSE FOR ABILITY TO COMPOSE POETRY, THE VENUS IN THETHIRD> > HOUSE> > GIVES THE ABILITY TO DECORATE OR PAINT.> >> > > Venus being lagna lord and occupying 2nd (house of general> > > taste) with Moon explains it better than Venus merely> > > aspecting lagna lord. Venusian and lunar influence on lagna> > > will be very small if I have Ar lagna.> >> > */ RATH: THE THIRD IS AN IMPORTANT HOUSE OF SKILLS IN THE NAVAMSA AS> > IT SHOWS> > WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS AND ALSO RULED DHI SHAKTI TO THEEXTENT OF> > UTILISING THESE SKILLS. THE BEST PAINTERS HAVE VENUS IN THE THIRD INTHE> > NAVAMSA. THUS IN BOTH THE CASES WE SEE THESE SKILLS. /* */> > /*> > > Jupiter in 8th may produce a fool, but he is in his> > > moolatrikona here. In D-27, he is with Mercury in a> > > Mercurian sign. In D-24, he is in Pisces. Considering all> > > these, Jupiter in 8th in D-9 did not make me a fool and> > > only tuned my "dhee" in the direction of the hidden.> >> > RATH: AGAIN YOU ARE DEVIATING INTO OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS.> >> >> > > In any case, one who ignores what is in his front and keeps> > > searching for hidden things is a fool in a sense!> >> > RATH: NO, NO STREATCHING PLEASE. START USING PHILOSOPHY AND JYTISH> > RULES GO> > FOR A SIX. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALMOST EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IN THISWAY.> >> > > If Jupiter in Sg is in 9th in D-9, it is unlikely to give> > > such "nigoodha tattva jijnasa" (the expression my father> > > used catches my spirit so well!) and one's intelligence is> > > likely to have the spirit of *conforming* and one will be> > > an obedient and conforming learner (which I am not). Even> > > as I respect my guru and his teachings, I always tend to> > > think that something is missing and I am always searching> > > for it. This makes excellent sense with Jupiter in 8th in> > > D-9. Jupiter in 9th may not give that spirit. I doubt it.> >> > RATH: THIS QUESTIONING COMES FROM THE INHERENT NATURE OF ARIES.WHERE DOES> > IT SAY ABOUT BEING A CONFIRMING LEARNER? JUPITER IN THE NINTH WILL> > SHOW ONE> > WHO WILL USE CONSIDERABLE DHI SHAKTI FOR LEARNING. IT PRODUCES ONEWITH A> > BROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE AND ALSO GIVES SKILLS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE & > > SCRIPTURES.> >> > > So, in a sense, I am a fool. But Jupiter's positive> > > strength in some divisions makes me a fool with a purpose.> >> > RATH: NO, THIS IS AGAIN STRETCHING THE POINT AND USING OTHERDIVISIONS.> >> >> > > > CONSTELLATION OF RAHU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAVAMSA HOUSE> > > PLACEMENT. IN> > >> > > No, I did not say there is a link. But both together> > > beautifully explain the direction in which my "dhee" is> > > tuned. I find my father's point very fascinating.> >> > RATH: THIS FASCINATION AND LIKES AND DISLIKES COME IN THE WAY OFREAL> > ANALYSIS. GET OVER IT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS I *REALLY* BELIEVED THAT MY> > NAVAMSA> > IS LIBRA AS THE RECORDED TIME SAID SO. AFTER ALL THERE WERE AS MANYAS> > EIGHT> > LADIES INSIDE THE BEDROOM, THE LADY DOCTOR HAD BEEN SPENDING THE DAY> > AT HOME> > AND THERE WERE TWO NURSES AS WELL. MY GRANNIES WERE HAVING A SMALL> > PARTY AND> > ONE WAS EVEN GIVING A RUNNING COMMENTARY! YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN BEIN> > INDIA WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES. THE HOSPITAL HADCOME> > HOME!> > AND THUS I WAS ALSO NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANY LOGIC. WHEN I WASTOLD> > THAT VENUS IN THE SECONE ASPECTED BY MARS FROM THE 8TH PRODUCES....MY> > ANSWER> > WAS THAT KETU IS ALSO PLACED IN SCORPIO IN THE SECOND AND SHALLSINGLE> > HANDEDLY DEMOLISH THAT EVIL COMBINATION JUST LIKE GANESHA CURSEDTULSI TO> > BURN IN HER PASSION DUE TO HAVING DISTURBED HIS PENANCE UNTIL SHEWAS> > RESCUED BY VISHNU. TODAY AFTER SEEING SO MANY CHARTS WITH SUCH> > COMBINATIONS,> > I HAVE HUMBLY ACCEPTED WHAT WAS TAUGHT.> > IT IS NOT THAT I DISRESPECT MY ELDERS, BUT JUST THAT IT WAS MY OWN> > FORTUNE OR DAWN OF KNOWLEDGE OF SORTS. (OTHERS CAN CHECK MY NAVAMSADOB: 7> > AUG 1963; 9:15'pm IST; SAMBALPUR, INDIA 21N28 84E01).> >> > >> > > > FACT IF JUPITER IS IN THE NINTH HOUSE IN THE NAVAMSA THE NATIVESHALL> > > > RESPECT HIS GURU AND SHALL BE MOST DUTIFUL TOWARDS THEM. DRRAMAN> > > NEVER> > > > TAUGHT YOU JYOTISH PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU READ HIS BOOKS,LIKE> > > > EKALAVYA YOU BECAME DEVOTED TO HIM AND HAVE EVEN TAKEN UPCUDGELS> > > AGAINST K> > > > N RAO WHEN HE SPOKE ILL OF DR RAMAN. THEY WAY YOU DEFENDED DRRAMAN> > > SPEAKS> > > > VOLUMES AND I HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GURU SHOULD BEVERY> > > STRONG> > > > INFLUENCE IN YOUR DHARMA. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS FELT THAT YOURNAVAMSA> > > SHOULD> > >> > > That point has some strength in it. However, there were> > > many occasions in the past when I confronted my guru in> > > public over disagreements. I wasn't really an obedient> > > sishya in the true sense.> > >> > > It is true that I tend to behave like a warrior when one> > > does something adharmik (in my view). Sri K.N.Rao made some> > > cheap allegations on Dr. Raman in his books and that made> > > me mad. However, if someone politely says that Raman> > > ayanamsa is wrong, I will only say "I agree".> > >> > > Why Dr. Raman, let's take you. I always make my respect for> > > you known, but did I take your side when I was convinced> > > otherwise? For example, you talked about "the very strong> > > character of my friend" Goravani and forwarded to> > > vedic astrology list his mail in which he banned Chandra> > > Hari on GJlist. That suggested to me that you wanted me to> > > do the same thing on vedic astrology list. Did I do it?> > > First, when Chandra Hari abused you, I gently admonished> > > him. Later, as you crossed swords with him and deviated to> > > unnecessary things (tantrik, serpant's poison etc), did I> > > take your side?> > >> > > I don't think I am an obedient sishya who would always> > > obey and protect his guru.> >> > RATH: WHO SAYS YOU DISOBEYED? WHY SHOULD A SISYA BE A DOG? YOU DID> > WHAT YOU> > FELT RIGHT AND I DID WHAT I FELT RIGHT. IF HE TRIES TO TALK ABOUTTHE> > EFFECT> > OF THE MANTRA THAT I AM DOING OR TRIES TO GIVE A SUBTLE THREAT ABOUTHIS> > TANTRIK POWERS, WELL, I JUST PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. THAT CHANDRA HASNO> > IDEA> > OF WHAT TANTRICISM CAN BE. HE SHOULD MEET THE LIKES OF BHAGAVANMISHRA OR> > THE KONTILO MAHARAJ OF BHOOTA SIDDHI WHO PERFORMED ANNUAL HUMANSACRIFICES> > UNTIL I PREVAILED UPON MY UNCLE TO PUT HIM BEHIND BARS. HE WAS SENTTO THE> > LOCK UP AND IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST TANTRICS AND BLACK MAGICIANS WHOINDULGE> > IN SUCH TERRIBLE ATROCITIES, I AM THE LAST TO STEP ASIDE. I HAVEMADE> > THIS A> > MISSION OF MY LIFE AND I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP OR SUPPORT ON OR> > OFF ANY> > LIST IN ANY FORM OR MANNER. THE ONLY ONE I NEED IN THIS IS SRIJAGANNATH> > MAHAPRABHU. SO, LETS LEAVE CHANDRA OUT OF THIS NAVAMSA DISCUSSION.> > MY READING IS THAT CHANDRA IS DOWN, BUT NOT OUT.> >> >> >> > > Jupiter need not be in 9th to give a good sense of dharma.> > > Dharma karaka Sun in 9th in D-9 also gives a good sense of> > > dharma.> >> > RATH: KINDLY TELL ME WHERE YOU READ THIS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF DHARMASHASTRA> > FROM THE SUN. SUN IS THE EXECUTIVE KING WHO IS GUIDED INTO EXECUTIONBY> > JUPITER EITHER AS THE KNOWLEDGABLE OR AS DIVINITY (GOD). THAT IS WHY> > JUPITER> > IN THE 8TH GIVES ASURA YOGA.> >> > > D-27 (Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa) is the chart of strengths and> > > weaknesses. Fiery Mars in his moolatrikona (fiery Aries)> > > occupies the 9th house (dharma) in my D-27 (with the middle> > > one-third of Taurus navamsa). That gives me an adament,> > > independent and warrior-like spirit of dharma. Each of the> > > three adjectives I used is absolutely appropriate when> > > describing my sense of dharma.> >> > RATH: THIS SPIRIT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE MARTIAN SIGN ARIESRISING> > WITH> > JUPITER IN THE NINTH WITH MARS. AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH MARSGIVES> > YOU A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDANCE AND THAT TOO OF THE MARTIAN KIND,AND> > THAT> > TOO IN MATTERS OF DHARMA (NINTH HOUSE). AGAIN YOU ARE GOING INTOOTHER> > DIVISIONS.> >> > > > RATH: I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE. YOU CANNOT HAVEVENUS> > > IN THE> > > > SECOND HOUSE ASPECTED BY MARS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFICCOMBINATION> > > FOR A> > > > CHARACTERLESS PERSON (WOMANIZER TO BE PRECISE). THE CONJUNCTIONOF> > > MOON AND> > > > JUPITER DOES NOT REDUCE THIS, BUT ONLY INCREASES IT. IN VIEW OFTHE> > > ABOVE,> > > > THE NAVAMSA LAGNA CANNOT BE TAURUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.> > >> > > We are a mixture of who our horoscope says we are, who we> > > strive to be and who our upasana makes us to be.> > >> > > Venus in 2nd with Martian aspect creates too much passion> > > and it could be said to be true in my case. You said Moon> > > and Jupiter increase it. But Jupiter is the strongest of> > > the 4 planets there and can't he suppress the passion with> > > upasana?> >> > RATH: NO, JUPITER IS EXPANSIVE BY NATURE AND WILL EXPAND THIS*CREATIVE*> > POTENTIAL ALSO. I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT PASSION STATEMENT YOUMADE> > ABOUT> > YOURSELF. NOW THIS STATEMENT IS ALSO PROVING THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS> > ARIES WITH> > MARS IN THE NINTH HOUSE. JUST TO PROVE THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS TAURUS,> > YOU WILL> > START ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE PASSIONATE, HAVE ASURIC QUALITIES, AND> > EVERYTHING THAT I SAY WOULD BE INDICATED. NO, I AM NOT GOING TOACCEPT> > THIS> > ABOUT YOU. IN A WAY I ADMIRE YOU. I DID EXACTLY THIS SAME THIS MANYYEARS> > BACK! SOMETIMES GOD GIVES IT BACK IN THIS LIFE.> >> > >> > > My father told me at a young age that I would either become> > > an unprincipled and perverted person addicted to alcohol> > > and such things or a very spiritual person of extraordinary> > > achievements. He told me one of the two extremes would> > > take place.> >> > RATH: HE SAID THIS FROM THE RASI CHART DUE TO THE PLANETS IN THEEIGHTH> > HOUSE WHICH CAN GO EITHER WAY. THE DHARMAKARMADIPATI YOGA CAN MAKEYOU A> > VERY PRINCIPLED MAN OR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE 8TH CAN MAKE YOU AGONE> > CASE.> > AGAIN THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA DISCUSIION AND I AGREE WITH YOURFATHERS> > READINGS OF THE CHART.> >> >> > > He told me that Jupiter has a very strong influence on the> > > whole rasi chart and on the whole navamsa chart and he told> > > me to capture that influence with upasana. Because he is in> > > Swathi, Jupiter will become very favorable with upasana and> > > he is the only one who can steer my life in the right> > > direction through the considerable influence he has in my> > > rasi and navamsa charts. This was my father's instruction> > > and he made me start my upasana at a young age. All that> > > upasana surely had its effect and channelled the Jovian> > > influence in my rasi and navamsa charts.> >> > RATH: I AGREE WITH THE EFFECTS OF UPASANA, BUT WHAT YOU SAY FITS> > BETTER WITH> > THE JUPITER IN THE NINTH IN NAVAMSA WHEREBY YOUR FATHER ACTUALLYBECOMES> > YOUR GURU.> >> >> > > Yes and I have already indicated that my marital life> > > wasn't smooth at all in the last 3-4 years.> >> > >> > RATH: NEITHER WAS MINE, NOR WAS THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY PERSON I KNOW.> > BUT THE> > MARRIAGE SURVIVES AND THIS ONLY PROVES MY POINT. IN FACT THEMARRIAGE WILL> > SURVIVE A LONG TIME AND LET ME MAKE THIS PREDICTION NOW AND HERE"THAT YOU> > WILL SURVIVE YOUR WIFE". PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO PADMAJA. IN INDIA ,THIS IS> > STILL CONSIDERED A GREAT BLESSING FOR THE LADY.> >> > * * *> > >> > > > What is the real implication of the seventh Lord of Rasi Chart> > > being> > > > placed in the 8th house in Navamsa. Will Jupiter be in the 8thhouse> > > in the> > > > Navamsa? Then which planet gave you the knowledge of Sanskrit?> > >> > > Jupiter.> > >> > > D-24 is the chart of education. In my D-24, Jupiter is very> > > strong in Pisces. He aspects the lagna and 4th house and> > > that gave me knowledge of Sanskrit at a young age.> >> > RATH; AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. THIS IS THE DHARMA> > AMSA AND> > THIS IS WHAT WE BRING WITH US FROM THE LAST LIFE. IN FACT FIRSTSTUDY THE> > RASI & NAVAMS AND THEN ONLY ENTER THE OTHER DIVISIONS. HAVE YOU MADETHE> > D-24 OF A RIKSHAW PULLER? I WILL DISCUSS THIS DIVISIONS LATER.> >> > > Whenever I get recognition for my knowledge (state first, a> > > request for interview, class first at IIT etc), Li, Ge and> > > Aq are involved in Narayana dasa. With Ge lagna, lord of Ge> > > is in 5th (Li). AL is in Aq and Ge is the 5th from AL (and> > > Li has the 5th lord from AL ).> >> > RATH: WE SHALL COME TO THIS AND YOU WILL ALSO AGREE THEN THAT THEDASA IS> > CORRECT. FIRST, LET US FIX THE NAVAMSA.> >> > > My main strength in life has been the ability to learn and> > > grasp things very quickly. D-24 lagna lord Mercury in 5th> > > fits well IMHO. If you change navamsa lagna, D-24 lagna> > > changes from Ge to Ta.> >> > RATH: AGAIN OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS NOW.> >> > > D-20 lagna also changes if we change D-9 lagna to Ar. With> > > the current Ta lagna in D-20, Mercury is in 2nd in own> > > house and lagna lord Venus is debilitated in 5th, aspected> > > by Mercury. My family deity is Narayana (Mercury). My ishta> > > daiva are Sri Maha Lakshmi (debilitated planet: goddess and> > > Venus: Lakshmi) and Narayana.> >> > RATH: WHY NOT MERCURY IN THE FOURTH HOUSE IN D-20? ANYWAY WE SHALLCOME TO> > THIS LATER.> >> > > > How much does the time have to move for the Lagna to be (A)Aries> > > and> > > > (B) Gemini?> > >> > > To make it Ge, we need to add 7 min 25 sec. To make it Ar,> > > we need to subtract 6 min 22 sec.> > >> > RATH: OK. THEN SUBTRACT THE TIME AND GIVE A CHART FOR ARIES NAVAMSA.I> > THINK> > NARAYAN HAS GIVEN SOME TIMING.> >> >> > BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATH> > Sanjay Rath> >> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" ahimsa@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixed> > karma.> > > Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about> > sex and> > > coming into many> > > relationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8thhouse> > > would not do so.Further> > > Magnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason Isaid to> > > many relationships, however> > > Sarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.> > > I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both> > Arudha and> > > Upapada, terrible for marriage..> > > Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsawhich is> > > problem. Either he had too many relationships> > > and remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsashould> > change> > > if there were not many relationships. .> > > This is based on a quick look at the chart..> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ ]On> > Behalf Of> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > 1. lipanj 2007 13:07> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> > >> > >> > > hraum namah adityaya> > >> > > Dear Zoranji,> > >> > > Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga> > say no> > > relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsashows> > > many relationship. ..which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa> > Yoga shows> > > delays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this> > strength the> > > other yogas? How You would resolve this?> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > amar napisal(a):> > >> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12thhouse> > > leave you unmarried.> > > Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement fromNavamsa> > > should also give the same,> > > unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th housein> > > Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.> > > I think your chart need rectification. Current navamsa Lagna showstoo> > > many relationships. ..> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ ]On> > > Behalf Of ND> > > 1. lipanj 2007 2:21> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> > >> > >> > > Dear Zoran,> > >> > > I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply toRahu> > > lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never been> > married.> > > [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N31]> > >> > > Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed inthis> > > thread.> > >> > > regards,> > > ND> > >> > > amar ahimsa@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ ]On> > > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > > 31. svibanj 2007 8:33> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> > >> > >> > > hare rama krsna> > >> > > Dear Zoran ,> > >> > > Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is very> > > planning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste> > (Jupiter). So SC> > > is rejected.> > >> > > Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > amar napisal(a):> > > Dear Rafal,> > > I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however I was> > > taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.> > > In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu Navamsa> > > Lagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I amnot> > > saying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,> > > however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.> > > Regards> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > > 30. svibanj 2007 9:01> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> > >> > >> > > hare rama krsna> > >> > > Dear Zoran,> > >> > > I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for some> > > clarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for this> > purpose and> > > these are correct.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > amar napisal(a):> > > Dear Rafal,> > > How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda nor> > > Pranapada are correct.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > > 29. svibanj 2007 19:11> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> > >> > >> > > hare rama krsna> > >> > > Dear Anurag,> > >> > > Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. I> > > recall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightagethan> > > general lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I foundits> > > working.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisal(a):> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Namaskar.> > > I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,> > > Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from> > the AK> > > face difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course,> > if there> > > is confluence of more factors affecting one life area in theMarana> > Karaka> > > Sthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.> > > In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,> > > Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK.I> > lost my> > > father when I was an infant. Of course, there are several other> > features in> > > the chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.> > > Regards,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> > > > Dear Anurag,> > > >> > > > Very good points.> > > >> > > > I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve (or> > > at least 2) must> > > > be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H but that> > > for certain can be> > > > problem..but small.> > > >> > > > Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru in kona> > > gives chaste> > > > lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ive> > > found one good mail> > > > from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflicting Guru> > > so the ghosts> > > > take the chastity away..rather sad state of affairs.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > > > >> > > > > Another reason for problems in getting married could> > > be the fact that> > > > > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are in Marana> > > Karaka Sthana from> > > > > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea and the> > > people who arrive> > > > > to take on the role of spouse.> > > > >> > > > > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take it to be> > > just Guru alone> > > > > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as it> > > obtains in the Rashi?> > > > > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone in> > > Vrishchik and giving> > > > > great innate wisdom and width of philosophical> > > thought, purity etc OR> > > > > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > >> > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > > > > >> > > > > > *Ramadasji:*> > > > > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility of> > > Rasis? Pls elaborate.> > > > > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show bad> > > experience, no delay. Infact> > > > > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspect can> > > be good and often> > > > > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa gives> > > Kuja-bhanga) .> > > > > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:> > > Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > > > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > > > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Surya tell us> > > about strength of> > > > > > attachement.> > > > > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say about> > > marriage?> > > > > >> > > > > > *Anuragji:*> > > > > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and not bad> > > marriage?> > > > > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru in> > > Vrscika Lagna D9.> > > > > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing to do> > > with delay.> > > > > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, and when> > > Lord is there then its> > > > > > changed,> > > > > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > > > > >> > > > > > Still there are two (I see three more) things> > > which needs to be> > > > > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > >> > > > > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > The following points are important in causing> > > delay in marriage in> > > > > the> > > > > > > present chart :> > > > > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, another> > > fixed Rashi,its lord> > > > > Shani> > > > > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in a> > > chara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who is Vakra> > > ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani and> > > afflicted by the> > > > > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja as Shani> > > is involved in 7th> > > > > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7th house.> > > > > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted by the> > > nodes.> > > > > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is with Mandi.> > > > > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra is> > > within 42 Degs.20' and> > > > > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse. Rahu is> > > at a higher> > > > > longitude> > > > > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu is> > > coming near to Surya to> > > > > > > swallow him.> > > > > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7th lord> > > Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factor in> > > delaying the marriage.> > > > > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,Sarpa Shaapa,Stree> > > Shaapa and chanting of> > > > > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Krishna:> > > > > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Anurag:*> > > > > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, not> > > neccesarily delay.> > > > > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You missed one or two important point(s), please> > > see again.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > > > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> Namaskar.> > > > > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > > > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.> > > There may be a> > > > > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibit> > > conflicts of interest> > > > > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > > > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse of> > > Jupiter caused by Surya> > > > > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondary> > > Curse of Venus. The> > > > > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted by Mangal> > > and Shani.> > > > > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lord Rahu> > > showing that> > > > > > >> marriage and relationships shall be the focal> > > area of the> > > > > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and 8th> > > Lord are involved.> > > > > > >> It can be remedied.> > > > > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondary> > > Kalatra Shrapa in the> > > > > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the 7th> > > House, Shani is> > > > > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > > > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved in> > > Curses showing some> > > > > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupies the> > > 9th Bhava in> > > > > > >> Navamsha.> > > > > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th House from> > > the AL.> > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > > > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.> > > com> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ ...>> > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person, who> > > was not married yet> > > > > > >> altough> > > > > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa of Naisargik> > > = delayed). There> > > > > > >> were some> > > > > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > > > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > > > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > > > > >> > *> > > > > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 serious doshas)> > > and waiting for Your> > > > > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which support> > > delay ?> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > >> > email: rafal@> > > > > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > > > > --------- ------> > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT> > > > > > > <http://us.rd. / mail/in/ywebmess> > > enger/*http:> > > > > //in.messenger. / webmessengerprom o.php>> > > > > > > from any browser, without download.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > --------- --------> > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Goto> > > Answers.> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (44) 1.4. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Posted by: "amar" ahimsa ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:31 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,Sorry Rafal, I was refereing to different chart, one of the members asked*(born in Kenya)I thought you were referring to tha chart.The chart you refer to is adifferent story.You should ask the person. Check all relationships,check ketu in 7th withShukra in 2nd if you refer toScorpio Lagna, that is a specific Yoga etc.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf OfRafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 13:26sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoranhraum namah adityayaDear Zoranji,Hm. Do we look at the same chart?Yes, planets in kendra shows fixed karma? So?#1 Here, Chandra is in 12H (if we take Scorpio).#2 Guru is not in the 8 (not in d1 nor d9), but in the first (d9).#3 Shukra is in the 2nd house, but Mangal doesnt aspect it.Still I dont know why You say D9 shows many relationship. MaybeYou are using different chart. Chandra is not in 7, Jupiter is not in 8,Mangaldoesnt infl 2H.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comamar napisal(a):Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixedkarma.Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about sexand coming into manyrelationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8th housewould not do so.FurtherMagnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason I said tomany relationships, howeverSarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both Arudhaand Upapada, terrible for marriage..Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsa which isproblem. Either he had too many relationshipsand remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsa shouldchange if there were not many relationships..This is based on a quick look at the chart..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of Rafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 13:07sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoranhraum namah adityayaDear Zoranji,Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga sayno relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsa showsmany relationship...which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa Yoga showsdelays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this strength theother yogas? How You would resolve this?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comamar napisal(a):Om Namah Shivaya,I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12thhouse leave you unmarried.Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement fromNavamsa should also give the same,unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th housein Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.I think your chart need rectification.Current navamsa Lagna showstoo many relationships...Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of ND1. lipanj 2007 2:21sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - ZoranDear Zoran,I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply toRahu lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never beenmarried. [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N31]Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed inthis thread.regards,NDamar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz31. svibanj 2007 8:33sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delayhare rama krsnaDear Zoran ,Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is veryplanning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste (Jupiter). So SCis rejected.Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18amar napisal(a):Dear Rafal,I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however Iwas taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu NavamsaLagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I am notsaying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.RegardsZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz30. svibanj 2007 9:01sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delayhare rama krsnaDear Zoran,I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for someclarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for this purpose andthese are correct.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18amar napisal(a):Dear Rafal,How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda norPranapada are correct.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz29. svibanj 2007 19:11sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delayhare rama krsnaDear Anurag,Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. Irecall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightage thangeneral lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I found itsworking.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18Anurag Sharma napisal(a):|Om Shreenivasaya Namah|Dear Rafal,Namaskar.I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AKface difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course, if thereis confluence of more factors affecting one life area in the Marana KarakaSthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK. I lost myfather when I was an infant. Of course, there are several other features inthe chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. comsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*>> Dear Anurag,>> Very good points.>> I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve(or at least 2) must> be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H butthat for certain can be> problem..but small.>> Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru inkona gives chaste> lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ivefound one good mail> from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflictingGuru so the ghosts> take the chastity away..rather sad state ofaffairs.>>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa. com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Namaskar.> >> > Another reason for problems in getting marriedcould be the fact that> > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are inMarana Karaka Sthana from> > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea andthe people who arrive> > to take on the role of spouse.> >> > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take itto be just Guru alone> > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as itobtains in the Rashi?> > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone inVrishchik and giving> > great innate wisdom and width of philosophicalthought, purity etc OR> > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.com> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > >> > > *Ramadasji:*> > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility ofRasis? Pls elaborate.> > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show badexperience, no delay. Infact> > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspectcan be good and often> > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa givesKuja-bhanga) .> > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Suryatell us about strength of> > > attachement.> > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say aboutmarriage?> > >> > > *Anuragji:*> > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and notbad marriage?> > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru inVrscika Lagna D9.> > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing todo with delay.> > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, andwhen Lord is there then its> > > changed,> > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > >> > > Still there are two (I see three more) thingswhich needs to be> > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > The following points are important incausing delay in marriage in> > the> > > > present chart :> > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, anotherfixed Rashi,its lord> > Shani> > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in achara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who isVakra ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani andafflicted by the> > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja asShani is involved in 7th> > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7thhouse.> > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted bythe nodes.> > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is withMandi.> > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra iswithin 42 Degs.20' and> > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse.Rahu is at a higher> > longitude> > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu iscoming near to Surya to> > > > swallow him.> > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7thlord Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factorin delaying the marriage.> > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,SarpaShaapa,Stree Shaapa and chanting of> > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > >> > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > >> > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > >> > > > *Krishna:> > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > >> > > > *Anurag:*> > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, notneccesarily delay.> > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > >> > > > You missed one or two important point(s),please see again.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > >> Namaskar.> > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.There may be a> > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibitconflicts of interest> > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse ofJupiter caused by Surya> > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondaryCurse of Venus. The> > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted byMangal and Shani.> > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lordRahu showing that> > > >> marriage and relationships shall be thefocal area of the> > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and8th Lord are involved.> > > >> It can be remedied.> > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondaryKalatra Shrapa in the> > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the7th House, Shani is> > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved inCurses showing some> > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupiesthe 9th Bhava in> > > >> Navamsha.> > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th Housefrom the AL.> > > >> Regards,> > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation.blogspot. com> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> sohamsa@ .com, RafalGendarz <starsuponme@ ...>> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > >> >> > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person,who was not married yet> > > >> altough> > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa ofNaisargik = delayed). There> > > >> were some> > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > >> > *> > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 seriousdoshas) and waiting for Your> > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which supportdelay ?> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards,> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > >> > email: rafal@> > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > --------- ------> > > > Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT> > > > <http://us.rd. / mail/in/ywebmessenger/*http:> > //in.messenger. / webmessengerpromo.php>> > > > from any browser, without download.> > > >> > >> >> >>-------------------------Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Goto Answers. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (44) 2a. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" sarbani sarbani3062002 Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:01 am (PST) Shri Brahmadaru SmaramiDear Anurag and Zoran,The most important fact I think is the defamation. Dinanath falsely claimed in a dubious website, that there was a FIR against Sanjay. So Sanjayji had to file cases against such claims, which included submitting all the defamatory mails written in Vedic-Astrology, Varahamihira and other lists along with that web site contains. The end result was that the police were hauled up in court by the judge! And the judge gave orders for 11 other cases where the police had done similar things. So Sanjayji's case enabled the clearance of 11 other such cases!! Then in the high court, the court enforced the submissions of the reports of the Finance Ministry which cleared his name from other allegations. At the end the judge admonished the other party very harshly forbidding them even to appeal against the order.Now that didn't stop our friends either! We have recently heard from someone, that these people are going around and telling people that it is they who have won the cases and painting quite the opposite picture. It is a very maligned and directed defamation. And he has very quietly fought against them and won the cases about a year and a half ago. I think no one even knows this.Best Regards,Sarbani Sarkar Rathhttp://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> _____ sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of amarFriday, June 01, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathOm Namah Shivaya,Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.And Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded bysarpas. COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and two malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which givesbetrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing. Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someonewho is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5th lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his heart.Incidentally,the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strongGuru too idealistic..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of hmuttagi1. lipanj 2007 8:56sohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathDear Shri Sanjay Ji,Pranam:Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?sincere regardssohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath wrote:>> This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare Krishna> movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish with> me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to go> to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I asked> my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500 and> so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna with> Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal purpose in> addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges <http://jyotishdigest.com> t.com> Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no other> option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases âEUR"Writ Petition> No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin face me> in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of dirty> tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the SmugglerI> am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment. All> equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally imported.> He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his huge> excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this, forget> it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > --> Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2b. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:05 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Anuragji,Yes, I agree.I think You misunderstood my intentions which are purely 'scientific'. I only wanted to discuss what are the yogas which nullify this in my chart, as I dont identify myself with cheater.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comAnurag Sharma napisa?(a):>> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|>> Dear Rafal,>> Namaskar.>> What I wrote is with reference to two Grahas in Sanjay Ji's chart and > Visti's lecture, I think about Tatkalika Relationships where he > mentions these /broad based /placements. If I recall correctly, he > also spoke about 5th House placements in similar light.>> If we were to go by what you are saying in this email then you would > dispute Sanjay Ji also. When he links 'hard hearted devilish fellow' > with Kumbha Lagna, is he condemning all Kumbha Lagnas to a hard heart > and devilishness? I do not really think so.>> Likewise when he cites Rahu in Mithun Lagna for the said person in his > email/ post, I don't think Sanjay Ji thinks the gentleman's Rahu is > akin to Guru in that case! Certainly not. I think it is Sanjay Ji's > way of describing the man's Rahu dominated nature /in that case. /Does > that mean your Rahu is similar or are you a similar person? I do not > think that is the necessary conclusion that must follow.>> To be absolutely honest, I am quite surprised to see that > interpretation on my email, because that is the last thing I could > have intended. Are there any /specific /references in my email or is > it a /generic /counter-examination of the traits of Guru and Rahu? It > is the latter, obviously.>> The annulment of /a /Sarpa Yoga in /a /chart are all /specifics /in > /that /horoscope and have nothing to do with my previous email.>> Then Sanjay Ji also mentions Rahu in Karka Lagna for the other person > he cites. Is everyone with that placement under suspicion and > scrutiny? Not in my book.>> In the alternative, if you just want my opinion on your chart in the > light of the specific placements in your chart, I would be delighted > to offer it at some point. The reason being that in the process I > would doubtlessly learn a few things from you.>> However, at the instant time, it is important to reiterate in a > /generic /sense, just as Sanjay Ji has done in his email/ post, that > Guru in Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga (and this is in continuation of the > response to the gentleman/ lady who posed the query as to why Sanjay > Ji taught such a man in the first place...) in Lagna and Rahu in the > 4th House lead to such experiences. On numerous occasions, Sanjay Ji > in his Hindi lectures at SJC Attri has referred to this strong Rahu > trying to meddle with Sukha through shocks, lying and deceit.>> Best Regards,>> Anurag Sharma>> http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>> sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Anuragji,> >> > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> >> > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa Yoga.> >> > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth > lord).> >> > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> >> > How You see those?> >> > *My chart: http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> >> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > >> > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In Sanjay> > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata Yoga.> > >> > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself has > the> > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there is a> > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > >> > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how will> > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if it> > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > >> > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after being> > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to > spot> > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin with.> > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have in> > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional > Christian> > > thought goes.> > >> > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate. In> > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this manner.> > >> > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it > will.> > > Nothing can really change that.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Anurag Sharma> > >> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" hmuttagi@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > >> > > > Pranam:> > > >> > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?> > > >> > > > sincere regards> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > Krishna> > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish> > > > with> > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He > was to> > > > go> > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I> > > > asked> > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave > $500> > > > and> > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife > wrote a> > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer > lagna> > > > with> > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha > in the> > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > purpose in> > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges t.com> > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> > > > other> > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the > court.By the> > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases > âEUR"Writ> > > > Petition> > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I > openly> > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> > > > face me> > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> > > > dirty> > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > SmugglerI> > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics > project by> > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> > > > All> > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > imported.> > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a > sädhu> > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily > fooled. The> > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> > > > huge> > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> > > > forget> > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 > 05:35:00 PM> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2c. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:26 am (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do that by the means of rightiousness.But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadipati yoga formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you. Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?Warm regards,Tijana sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Anuragji,> > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa Yoga.> > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth lord).> > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > How You see those?> > *My chart: http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In Sanjay > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata Yoga.> >> > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself has the > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there is a > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> >> > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how will > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if it > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> >> > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after being > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to spot > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin with. > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have in > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional Christian > > thought goes.> >> > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate. In > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this manner.> >> > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it will. > > Nothing can really change that.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > >> > > Pranam:> > >> > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?> > >> > > sincere regards> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > Krishna> > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish> > > with> > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to> > > go> > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I> > > asked> > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500> > > and> > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna> > > with> > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > purpose in> > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges t.com> > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> > > other> > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases âEUR"Writ> > > Petition> > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> > > face me> > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> > > dirty> > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > SmugglerI> > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> > > All> > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > imported.> > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> > > huge> > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> > > forget> > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2d. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:47 am (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Just a few thoughts here that maybe can help us.Being the last nakshatra it relates to the final end-emancipation-the highest ideal. The exaltation of the Shukra-highest ideals (related to people)-falls in the fourth (moksha) pada of the Revati. The presiding deity is Poosha, Sun God-noone can measure His generosity.Revati is the wife of the Lord Balarama. She ascendend to skies with her father looking for the suitable husband as she could not find any on the earth. 27! eons have passed until she got the Bramha`s mercy to merry Balaram.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Zoranji,> > Why Revati gives idealism? Symbol? Devata? Lord?> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > amar napisa?(a):> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic > > and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,> > which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.And > > Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded by> > sarpas.> > COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and two > > malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which gives> > betrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing. > > Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someone> > who is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5th > > lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his > > heart.Incidentally,> > the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)> > I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa > > Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. > > Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and > > strong> > Guru too idealistic..> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > > > ** sohamsa > > [sohamsa ]*On Behalf Of *hmuttagi> > *Sent:* 1. lipanj 2007 8:56> > *To:* sohamsa > > *Subject:* Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath> >> > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> >> > Pranam:> >> > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?> >> > sincere regards> >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,> > "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@>> > wrote:> > >> > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > Krishna> > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish> > with> > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to> > go> > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I> > asked> > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500> > and> > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna> > with> > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > purpose in> > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdigest.com <http://jyotishdigest.com>> > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> > other> > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > âEUR"Writ> > Petition> > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> > face me> > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> > dirty> > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > SmugglerI> > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> > All> > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > imported.> > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> > huge> > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> > forget> > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > >> > > --> > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2e. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 9:02 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Tijana,Thank You.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisa?(a):>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Rafal,> Just a few thoughts here that maybe can help us.> Being the last nakshatra it relates to the final end-emancipation- the> highest ideal. The exaltation of the Shukra-highest ideals (related> to people)-falls in the fourth (moksha) pada of the Revati. The> presiding deity is Poosha, Sun God-noone can measure His generosity.> Revati is the wife of the Lord Balarama. She ascendend to skies with> her father looking for the suitable husband as she could not find any> on the earth. 27! eons have passed until she got the Bramha`s mercy> to merry Balaram.> Warm regards,> Tijana>> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Zoranji,> >> > Why Revati gives idealism? Symbol? Devata? Lord?> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> >> > amar napisa?(a):> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too> idealistic> > > and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,> > > which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic> nature.And> > > Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded by> > > sarpas.> > > COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and> two> > > malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which gives> > > betrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back> stabbing.> > > Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someone> > > who is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of> the 5th> > > lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his> > > heart.Incidentally,> > > the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)> > > I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa> > > Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and> charished.> > > Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment,> and> > > strong> > > Guru too idealistic..> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > >> > > > > > ** sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > [sohamsa@ .com > <sohamsa%40>]*On Behalf Of *hmuttagi> > > *Sent:* 1. lipanj 2007 8:56> > > *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath> > >> > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > >> > > Pranam:> > >> > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> cheated?> > >> > > sincere regards> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40> > <sohamsa%> 40. com>,> > > "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> Hare> > > Krishna> > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> jyotish> > > with> > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> He was to> > > go> > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there> and I> > > asked> > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> gave $500> > > and> > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> into a> > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> wife wrote a> > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> (Cancer lagna> > > with> > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of> SJVC.> > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> Narasimha in the> > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > purpose in> > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > > http://jyotishdiges t.com <http://jyotishdigest.com> > <http://jyotishdiges t.com <http://jyotishdigest.com>>> > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> the hard> > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> had no> > > other> > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> court.By the> > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > âEUR"Writ> > > Petition> > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> 2004> > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and> I openly> > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> agin> > > face me> > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> bag of> > > dirty> > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > SmugglerI> > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> fight> > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> clandestinely> > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> project by> > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> the> > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> equipment.> > > All> > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > imported.> > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of> a sädhu> > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> fooled. The> > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> checking his> > > huge> > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> this,> > > forget> > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> 05:35:00 PM> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2f. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 9:14 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Tijana,Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals? Nodes in kendra gives spirituality..Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisa?(a):>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Rafal,> Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining> and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do> that by the means of rightiousness.> But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to> fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yoga> formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not> turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.> Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and> father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> Warm regards,> Tijana>> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Anuragji,> >> > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> >> > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa> Yoga.> >> > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth> lord).> >> > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> >> > How You see those?> >> > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> >> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > >> > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> Sanjay> > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> Yoga.> > >> > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> has the> > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there> is a> > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > >> > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how> will> > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if> it> > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > >> > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> being> > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to> spot> > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin> with.> > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have> in> > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> Christian> > > thought goes.> > >> > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.> In> > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> manner.> > >> > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it> will.> > > Nothing can really change that.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Anurag Sharma> > >> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > >> > > > Pranam:> > > >> > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> cheated?> > > >> > > > sincere regards> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > Krishna> > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> jyotish> > > > with> > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He> was to> > > > go> > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there> and I> > > > asked> > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> gave $500> > > > and> > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> into a> > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife> wrote a> > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer> lagna> > > > with> > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of> SJVC.> > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha> in the> > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > purpose in> > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges> t.com> > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the> hard> > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> had no> > > > other> > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> court.By the> > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> âEUR"Writ> > > > Petition> > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> 2004> > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I> openly> > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> agin> > > > face me> > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag> of> > > > dirty> > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > SmugglerI> > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> fight> > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> clandestinely> > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> project by> > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> the> > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> equipment.> > > > All> > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > imported.> > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a> sädhu> > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> fooled. The> > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking> his> > > > huge> > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> this,> > > > forget> > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> 05:35:00 PM> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2g. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 12:04 pm (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to spirituality-its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is needed here. I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating personality, inovative and different approaches…but he is still someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I forgot something important that modifies what I said.Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals? > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality..> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining> > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do> > that by the means of rightiousness.> > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to> > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yoga> > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not> > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.> > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and> > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Anuragji,> > >> > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > >> > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa> > Yoga.> > >> > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth> > lord).> > >> > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > >> > > How You see those?> > >> > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > Sanjay> > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > Yoga.> > > >> > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > has the> > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there> > is a> > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > >> > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how> > will> > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if> > it> > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > >> > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > being> > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to> > spot> > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin> > with.> > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have> > in> > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > Christian> > > > thought goes.> > > >> > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.> > In> > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > manner.> > > >> > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it> > will.> > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Pranam:> > > > >> > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > cheated?> > > > >> > > > > sincere regards> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > > Krishna> > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > jyotish> > > > > with> > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He> > was to> > > > > go> > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there> > and I> > > > > asked> > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > gave $500> > > > > and> > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> > into a> > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife> > wrote a> > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer> > lagna> > > > > with> > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of> > SJVC.> > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha> > in the> > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > > purpose in> > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges> > t.com> > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the> > hard> > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > had no> > > > > other> > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > court.By the> > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > âEUR"Writ> > > > > Petition> > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> > 2004> > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I> > openly> > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > agin> > > > > face me> > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag> > of> > > > > dirty> > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > fight> > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > clandestinely> > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > project by> > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> > the> > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > equipment.> > > > > All> > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > > imported.> > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a> > sädhu> > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > fooled. The> > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking> > his> > > > > huge> > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > this,> > > > > forget> > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2h. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 12:11 pm (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Tijana,Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I have also few devotees with that).Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisa?(a):>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Rafal,> I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL> which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in> general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every> malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in> the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-> Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who> is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in> a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is> needed here.> I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good> things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating> personality, inovative and different approaches...but he is still> someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible> to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I> forgot something important that modifies what I said.> Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in> your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> Warm regards,> Tijana>> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Tijana,> >> > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high> ideals?> > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> >> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards> gaining> > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> certainly do> > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> capability to> > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati> yoga> > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have> not> > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for> you.> > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma> and> > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> 40. com>,> > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > >> > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > >> > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > > >> > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> Sarpa> > > Yoga.> > > >> > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini> (ninth> > > lord).> > > >> > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > >> > > > How You see those?> > > >> > > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>>> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > >> > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > > Sanjay> > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > > has the> > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th,> there> > > is a> > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > >> > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu> loves to> > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset,> how> > > will> > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much,> and if> > > it> > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > >> > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > > being> > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of> how to> > > spot> > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to> begin> > > with.> > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will> have> > > in> > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > > Christian> > > > > thought goes.> > > > >> > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might> indicate.> > > In> > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > > manner.> > > > >> > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And> it> > > will.> > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > >> > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > >> > > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior> to> > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > > cheated?> > > > > >> > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> sanjayrath@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> Hare> > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > > jyotish> > > > > > with> > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> He> > > was to> > > > > > go> > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out> there> > > and I> > > > > > asked> > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > > gave $500> > > > > > and> > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow> got> > > into a> > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> wife> > > wrote a> > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> (Cancer> > > lagna> > > > > > with> > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and > of> > > SJVC.> > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> Narasimha> > > in the> > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his> personal> > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> http://jyotishdiges> > > t.com> > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> the> > > hard> > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > > had no> > > > > > other> > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > > court.By the> > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501> of> > > 2004> > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005> and I> > > openly> > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > > agin> > > > > > face me> > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> bag> > > of> > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic> the> > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > > fight> > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > > clandestinely> > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > > project by> > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well> as> > > the> > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > > equipment.> > > > > > All> > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are> illegally> > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes> of a> > > sädhu> > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > > fooled. The> > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> checking> > > his> > > > > > huge> > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > > this,> > > > > > forget> > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2i. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Anurag Sharma" anuraagsharma27 anuraagsharma27 Fri Jun 1, 2007 1:46 pm (PST) |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|Dear Sarbani Ji,Yes, the dubious website continues to host these things and this isimproper. As a Counsel I find no difficulty in examining what has beenreferred to, and what is now a part of public record. The impropriety iswrit large in view of the Final Judgment and Order passed by the Hon'bleHigh Court of Delhi in WP (Cr.) 1512 of 2004. This was a batch matter(and you have pointed out several matters were disposed off together:this is the reason. Many matters were clubbed together.) The Cause Titleof the Main Petition is Sunil Kumar & Ors. Vs. Delhi S.C. Financial andDev. Corporation. The name of the Petitioner in the specifically citedcase is Mahesh Kumar Rahi.The other Petition cited, namely, WP (Cr.) 1501 of 2004 was decidedalong with the other matters by virtue of a common Order dated July 27,2005. The Final Judgment and Order dated 27.7.2005 issued by R.C.Chopra, J. in the above cited matters is reproduced below for the readyreference of all concerned:IN THE HIGH COURT OF DELHI AT NEW DELHI27.07.2005Present : Mr.Jitender Kumar Singh for the petitioners.Ms.Mukta Gupta for the State.Mr.Nachiket Joshi with Mr.Anil Shrivastava for respondent No.4WP (Crl) No 1512/2004Status Report seen.After perusing the averments made in the petitioner, Status Report andhearing learned counsel for the parties, this Court finds that theallegations being made by the petitioner against one U.K.Rath and othersare in regard to cheating. According to Poice, the disputes between them are of civil nature. Considering thenature of the allegations, this Court is of the considered view thatthere are no good grounds for issuance of direction to register FIR asprayed. The petitioner, however, may file acomplaint under Section 200 Cr.PC., if so advised.The petition stands disposed of.July 27, 2005 R.C.CHOPRA, J.rkIt is thus clear that no case of cheating etc was made out and theHon'ble Court refused to direct that an FIR be registered. Thus, itshould be clear to all concerned that it is not 'they' who have 'won'but it is Shri U.K. Rath & Ors, who have been exonerated of theallegations that may have been advanced.There is no particular mystery about S.200 of the Cr.P.C, reference towhich has been made in the Order of the Hon'ble Court. The same is alsoreproduced below:"200. Examination of complainant.A Magistrate taking cognizance of an offence on complaint shall examineupon oath the complainant and the witnesses present, if any, and thesubstance of such examination shall be reduced to writing and shall besigned by the complainant and the witnesses, and also by the Magistrate:Provided that, when the complaint is made in writing, the Magistrateneed not examine the complainant and the witnesses-(a) If a public servant acting or purporting to act in the discharge ofhis official duties or a court has made the complaint; or(b) If the Magistrate makes over the case for inquiry, or trial toanother Magistrate under section 192:Provided further that if the Magistrate makes over the case to anotherMagistrate under section 192 after examining the complainant and thewitnesses, the latter Magistrate need not re-examine them."It is just a procedural provision.In view of this, it is foolhardy for them to continue to try and indulgein such libel, apart from the Karmic implications that might ensue.Best Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com'>http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com<http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>--- In sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbaniwrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami>> Dear Anurag and Zoran,>> The most important fact I think is the defamation. Dinanath falselyclaimed in a dubious website, that there was a FIR against Sanjay. SoSanjayji had to file cases against such claims, which includedsubmitting all the defamatory mails written in Vedic-Astrology,Varahamihira and other lists along with that web site contains. The endresult was that the police were hauled up in court by the judge! And thejudge gave orders for 11 other cases where the police had done similarthings. So Sanjayji's case enabled the clearance of 11 other suchcases!! Then in the high court, the court enforced the submissions ofthe reports of the Finance Ministry which cleared his name from otherallegations. At the end the judge admonished the other party veryharshly forbidding them even to appeal against the order.>> Now that didn't stop our friends either! We have recently heard fromsomeone, that these people are going around and telling people that itis they who have won the cases and painting quite the opposite picture.It is a very maligned and directed defamation. And he has very quietlyfought against them and won the cases about a year and a half ago. Ithink no one even knows this.>> Best Regards,>> Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>>>>>> _____>> sohamsa [sohamsa ] OnBehalf Of amar> Friday, June 01, 2007 4:47 PM> sohamsa > RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath>>>>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealisticand has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,> which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.AndSarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded by> sarpas.> COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and twomalefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which gives> betrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing.Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someone> who is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5thlord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to hisheart.Incidentally,> the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)> I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogasand have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Againplanet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strong> Guru too idealistic..> Best wishes> Zoran>> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of hmuttagi> 1. lipanj 2007 8:56> sohamsa > Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath>>>> Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,>> Pranam:>> Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?>> sincere regards>> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com,"Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> wrote:> >> > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> Krishna> > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learnjyotish> with> > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to> go> > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out thereand I> asked> > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500> and> > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancerlagna> with> > Rähu) completely captured the websites and ofSJVC.> > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for hispersonal> purpose in> > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges<http://jyotishdigest.com> t.com> > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> other> > option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all thecases â€"Writ> Petition> > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> face me> > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> dirty> > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> SmugglerI> > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> All> > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> imported.> > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of asädhu> > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> huge> > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> forget> > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> >> > --> > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2j. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 4:10 pm (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Yes, kendras are ruled by the Moon based on the four tides and are responsible for creation and growth. Nodes oppose society-Moon, but in different ways making it a kind of a victim of their influence as the Rahu pulls it upward and Ketu downward. Here again the different nature of two nodes is very obvious. Society also don`t think friendly of them from different reasons-Ketu is not liked because of his ascetism that rejects world and Rahu because of his diabolic affairs and shocks he causes.The placement of malefics in kendra is pretty broad subject. Exalted malefics (Ma, Sa) in kendra produce Mahapurusha yoga and should be studied separately. Exalted retograde ones give different effects from the exalted in direct motion as they produce Pravraja. Still, i don`t think that malefics presence in kendra is indicative for spirituality by itself unless involved in some yoga (Mahapurusha or other), special status as yoga karaka or a very specific position regarding AL.In the case of Maharishi`s chart, Mars in lagna forms Ruchaka Mahapurusha yoga, is the lord of the 4th and conjoins 9th lord, and in Pt. Sanjayji`s chart Rahu is posited in the 7th from AL.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct > astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers > and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. > Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and > approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while > the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong > malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I > have also few devotees with that).> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> > spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL> > which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in> > general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every> > malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in> > the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-> > Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who> > is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in> > a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is> > needed here.> > I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good> > things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating> > personality, inovative and different approaches...but he is still> > someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible> > to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I> > forgot something important that modifies what I said.> > Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in> > your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > >> > > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high> > ideals?> > > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards> > gaining> > > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> > certainly do> > > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> > capability to> > > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati> > yoga> > > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have> > not> > > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for> > you.> > > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma> > and> > > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> > Sarpa> > > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini> > (ninth> > > > lord).> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > How You see those?> > > > >> > > > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > > > Sanjay> > > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > > > Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > > > has the> > > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th,> > there> > > > is a> > > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu> > loves to> > > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset,> > how> > > > will> > > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much,> > and if> > > > it> > > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > > > being> > > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of> > how to> > > > spot> > > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to> > begin> > > > with.> > > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will> > have> > > > in> > > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > > > Christian> > > > > > thought goes.> > > > > >> > > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might> > indicate.> > > > In> > > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > > > manner.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And> > it> > > > will.> > > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior> > to> > > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > > > cheated?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> > sanjayrath@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> > Hare> > > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > > > jyotish> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> > He> > > > was to> > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out> > there> > > > and I> > > > > > > asked> > > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > > > gave $500> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow> > got> > > > into a> > > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> > wife> > > > wrote a> > > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> > (Cancer> > > > lagna> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and > > of> > > > SJVC.> > > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> > Narasimha> > > > in the> > > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his> > personal> > > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdiges> > > > t.com> > > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> > the> > > > hard> > > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > > > had no> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > > > court.By the> > > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501> > of> > > > 2004> > > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005> > and I> > > > openly> > > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > > > agin> > > > > > > face me> > > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> > bag> > > > of> > > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic> > the> > > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > > > fight> > > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > > > clandestinely> > > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > > > project by> > > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well> > as> > > > the> > > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > > > equipment.> > > > > > > All> > > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are> > illegally> > > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes> > of a> > > > sädhu> > > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > > > fooled. The> > > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> > checking> > > > his> > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > > > this,> > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2k. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "vedicastrostudent" vedicastrostudent vedicastrostudent Fri Jun 1, 2007 5:01 pm (PST) Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji,I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a hard time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, even though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in AL in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi-dristi). Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No planets have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras.How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus is AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my chart).One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own chart is packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I had a relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of marriage.What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified.Thanks,Sundeepsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct > astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers > and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. > Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and > approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while > the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong > malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I > have also few devotees with that).> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> > spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL> > which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in> > general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every> > malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in> > the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-> > Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who> > is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in> > a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is> > needed here.> > I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good> > things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating> > personality, inovative and different approaches...but he is still> > someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible> > to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I> > forgot something important that modifies what I said.> > Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in> > your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > >> > > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high> > ideals?> > > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards> > gaining> > > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> > certainly do> > > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> > capability to> > > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati> > yoga> > > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have> > not> > > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for> > you.> > > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma> > and> > > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > --- In sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> > Sarpa> > > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini> > (ninth> > > > lord).> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > How You see those?> > > > >> > > > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > > > Sanjay> > > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > > > Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > > > has the> > > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th,> > there> > > > is a> > > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu> > loves to> > > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset,> > how> > > > will> > > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much,> > and if> > > > it> > > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > > > being> > > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of> > how to> > > > spot> > > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to> > begin> > > > with.> > > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will> > have> > > > in> > > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > > > Christian> > > > > > thought goes.> > > > > >> > > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might> > indicate.> > > > In> > > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > > > manner.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And> > it> > > > will.> > > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior> > to> > > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > > > cheated?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> > sanjayrath@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> > Hare> > > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > > > jyotish> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> > He> > > > was to> > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out> > there> > > > and I> > > > > > > asked> > > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > > > gave $500> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow> > got> > > > into a> > > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> > wife> > > > wrote a> > > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> > (Cancer> > > > lagna> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and > > of> > > > SJVC.> > > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> > Narasimha> > > > in the> > > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his> > personal> > > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdiges> > > > t.com> > > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> > the> > > > hard> > > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > > > had no> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > > > court.By the> > > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501> > of> > > > 2004> > > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005> > and I> > > > openly> > > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > > > agin> > > > > > > face me> > > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> > bag> > > > of> > > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic> > the> > > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > > > fight> > > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > > > clandestinely> > > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > > > project by> > > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well> > as> > > > the> > > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > > > equipment.> > > > > > > All> > > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are> > illegally> > > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes> > of a> > > > sädhu> > > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > > > fooled. The> > > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> > checking> > > > his> > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > > > this,> > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2l. Odp: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal G" starsuponme jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 7:01 pm (PST) hraum namah adityayaDear Tijana,Me and Guruji are very strict with the teachings of parampara.There are more combinations required for the spirituality ofcourse. Nodes exalted shows some very unique and idealistic, ifthere is spiritual spark coming from Satva then this mix givesinspiration to follow Upward path. Sanjayji told me that exaltedgrahas are like Narayana..and it was in the context of my Rahu inLagna.RegardsRafal GendarzDnia 2-06-2007 o godz. 1:07 nix_nixen napisa³(a):Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane.Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Yes, kendras are ruled by the Moon based on the four tides andareresponsible for creation and growth. Nodes oppose society-Moon,butin different ways making it a kind of a victim of their influenceasthe Rahu pulls it upward and Ketu downward. Here again thedifferentnature of two nodes is very obvious. Society also don`t thinkfriendly of them from different reasons-Ketu is not liked becauseofhis ascetism that rejects world and Rahu because of his diabolicaffairs and shocks he causes.The placement of malefics in kendra is pretty broad subject.Exalted malefics (Ma, Sa) in kendra produce Mahapurusha yoga andshould be studied separately. Exalted retograde ones givedifferenteffects from the exalted in direct motion as they producePravraja.Still, i don`t think that malefics presence in kendra isindicativefor spirituality by itself unless involved in some yoga(Mahapurushaor other), special status as yoga karaka or a very specificpositionregarding AL.In the case of Maharishi`s chart, Mars in lagna forms RuchakaMahapurusha yoga, is the lord of the 4th and conjoins 9th lord,andin Pt. Sanjayji`s chart Rahu is posited in the 7th from AL.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*>> Dear Tijana,>> Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong theyconstruct> astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they cangiverapers> and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to takeothersmoney.> Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and> approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career,while> the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagnais).Strong> malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, SanjayRath, I> have also few devotees with that).>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com>> nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> > spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7thfrom AL> > which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad forspiritualityin> > general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (asevery> > malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall ofRahuin> > the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposesMercury-> > Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a personwho> > is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association ofpersons in> > a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahuis> > needed here.> > I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not givesomegood> > things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence,penetrating> > personality, inovative and different approaches...but he isstill> > someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is neveradvisible> > to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Couldbe I> > forgot something important that modifies what I said.> > Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagnalord,in> > your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>,> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > >> > > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it nothigh> > ideals?> > > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a persontowards> > gaining> > > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exaltedand> > > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> > certainly do> > > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> > capability to> > > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatifulspiritual> > > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadipati> > yoga> > > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa broughtyoumuch> > > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas untilyouhave> > not> > > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks theSarpafor> > you.> > > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems relatedtodharma> > and> > > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I amcheater?> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> > Sarpa> > > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter forGemini> > (ninth> > > > lord).> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > How You see those?> > > > >> > > > > *My chart: http://docs. <http://docs.> rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> > > > <http://docs. <http://docs.> rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*<http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> >>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4thHouse. In> > > > Sanjay> > > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. ThisisKapata> > > > Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, thenativehimself> > > > has the> > > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and4th,> > there> > > > is a> > > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, thepersonmay be> > > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th.Rahu> > loves to> > > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at theoutset,> > how> > > > will> > > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves somuch,> > and if> > > > it> > > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later,maybeafter> > > > being> > > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have someawareness of> > how to> > > > spot> > > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest init to> > begin> > > > with.> > > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahuwill> > have> > > > in> > > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar astraditional> > > > Christian> > > > > > thought goes.> > > > > >> > > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahumight> > indicate.> > > > In> > > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evilinthis> > > > manner.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its owncourse.And> > it> > > > will.> > > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar> ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > --- In sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi"<hmuttagi@>wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you not make out his character(astrologically)prior> > to> > > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) causeforbeing> > > > cheated?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> > sanjayrath@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a withISKCON,the> > Hare> > > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellowcame tolearn> > > > jyotish> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost forfouryears.> > He> > > > was to> > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha VedicCenter out> > there> > > > and I> > > > > > > asked> > > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500,Narasimha> > > > gave $500> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but thisfellow> > got> > > > into a> > > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supportedRobert,his> > wife> > > > wrote a> > > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along withVijayDeep> > > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) andV.S.Raju> > (Cancer> > > > lagna> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and> > of> > > > SJVC.> > > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from SatSiri,> > Narasimha> > > > in the> > > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used itfor his> > personal> > > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdiges <http://jyotishdiges>> > > > t.com> > > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such anevilthing,> > the> > > > hard> > > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in histirade.I> > > > had no> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought themin the> > > > court.By the> > > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I havewon all thecases> > > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ PetitionNo.1501> > of> > > > 2004> > > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered onJuly2005> > and I> > > > openly> > > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for anappealor to> > > > agin> > > > > > > face me> > > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law andnottheir> > bag> > > > of> > > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath,DejanKocic> > the> > > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws inIndia to> > > > fight> > > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler andhas> > > > clandestinely> > > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment foranimatronics> > > > project by> > > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhiaswell> > as> > > > the> > > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the dutyforthe> > > > equipment.> > > > > > > All> > > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projectsare> > illegally> > > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear thesaffronrobes> > of a> > > > sädhu> > > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can beeasily> > > > fooled. The> > > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him insteadof> > checking> > > > his> > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get awaywith all> > > > this,> > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at5/31/2007> > > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>-------------------Top Trendy. Najwa¿niejsze muzyczne wydarzenie roku!POLSAT 8-11 czerwca 2007 r. godz. 20:00http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.toptrendy.wp.pl=1170<http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.toptrendy.wp.pl & sid=1170> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2m. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "rashmi patel" rashmihpatel rashmihpatel Sat Jun 2, 2007 12:14 am (PST) Namaste Tijana & rafal,Talking on nodes & spirituality please tell me on my kundali & what is your opinion i have ketu in lagna & rahu in 7th house,nowi can tell you that i really do belive in god & also recently built ganeshas temple opened in 29/dec/06 my kundali is as ARIES LAGNA in aries=sun,mercury,ketu, tauras=venus, gemini=mars,leo=jupiter,libra=moon,rahu, scorpio=saturndob=12/may/57, tob=04;25 am, place=aden [yemen]thankspatelRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>sohamsa Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 3:10:48 PMRe: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanathhraum namah adityayaDear Tijana,Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I have also few devotees with that). Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. comnix_nixen napisa©È(a): Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in a high position.. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is needed here. I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating personality, inovative and different approaches¡Äbut he is still someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I forgot something important that modifies what I said.Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals? > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www..rohinaa. com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining> > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do> > that by the means of rightiousness.> > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to> > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yoga> > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not> > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.> > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and> > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Anuragji,> > >> > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > >> > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa> > Yoga.> > >> > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth> > lord).> > >> > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > >> > > How You see those?> > >> > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*>> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > Sanjay> > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > Yoga.> > > >> > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > has the> > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there> > is a> > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > >> > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how> > will> > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if> > it> > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > >> > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > being> > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to> > spot> > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin> > with.> > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have> > in> > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > Christian> > > > thought goes.> > > >> > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.> > In> > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > manner.> > > >> > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it> > will.> > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Pranam:> > > > >> > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > cheated?> > > > >> > > > > sincere regards> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > > Krishna> > > > > > movement started by Prabhupªª¢ðda. This fellow came to learn> > jyotish> > > > > with> > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He> > was to> > > > > go> > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannªª¢ðtha Vedic Center out there> > and I> > > > > asked> > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > gave $500> > > > > and> > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> > into a> > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife> > wrote a> > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rªª¢ðhu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer> > lagna> > > > > with> > > > > > Rªª¢ðhu) completely captured the websites and of> > SJVC.> > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha> > in the> > > > > > name of Jagannªª¢ðtha Mahªª¢ðprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > > purpose in> > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges> > t.com> > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the> > hard> > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > had no> > > > > other> > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > court.By the> > > > > > grace of Jagannªª¢ðtha Mahªª¢ðprabhu, I have won all the cases> > «¤EUR"Writ> > > > > Petition> > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> > 2004> > > > > > against V..S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I> > openly> > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > agin> > > > > face me> > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag> > of> > > > > dirty> > > > > > tricks, by Jagannªª¢ðtha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > fight> > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > clandestinely> > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > project by> > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> > the> > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > equipment.> > > > > All> > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > > imported.> > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a> > sªª¢ðdhu> > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > fooled. The> > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking> > his> > > > > huge> > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > this,> > > > > forget> > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>________Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase.http://farechase./ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2n. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "amar" ahimsa ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:35 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,1. Place of exalted Shukra2. Meena rashi gives idealism.3. Aditya is Vishnu, Vamana Brahmin, who stood up as a small Brahmin infront of Baalisohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf OfRafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 13:29sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanathhraum namah adityayaDear Zoranji,Why Revati gives idealism? Symbol? Devata? Lord?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comamar napisal(a):Om Namah Shivaya,Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic andhas Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.AndSarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded bysarpas.COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and twomalefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which givesbetrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing.Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someonewho is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5thlord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to hisheart.Incidentally,the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogasand have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Again planetand Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strongGuru too idealistic..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of hmuttagi1. lipanj 2007 8:56sohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathDear Shri Sanjay Ji,Pranam:Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior toteaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?sincere regardssohamsa , "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrathwrote:>> This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the HareKrishna> movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotishwith> me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was togo> to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and Iasked> my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500and> so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagnawith> Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personalpurpose in> addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdigest.com> Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had noother> option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases â€"WritPetition> No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to aginface me> in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag ofdirty> tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic theSmugglerI> am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.All> equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegallyimported.> He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking hishuge> excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,forget> it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.>> --> Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2o. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "amar" ahimsa ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:44 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Sara,It is good that you brought this matter. Most people do not know the truth.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Rath1. lipanj 2007 16:57sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Shri Brahmadaru SmaramiDear Anurag and Zoran,The most important fact I think is the defamation. Dinanath falsely claimed in a dubious website, that there was a FIR against Sanjay. So Sanjayji had to file cases against such claims, which included submitting all the defamatory mails written in Vedic-Astrology, Varahamihira and other lists along with that web site contains. The end result was that the police were hauled up in court by the judge! And the judge gave orders for 11 other cases where the police had done similar things. So Sanjayji's case enabled the clearance of 11 other such cases!! Then in the high court, the court enforced the submissions of the reports of the Finance Ministry which cleared his name from other allegations. At the end the judge admonished the other party very harshly forbidding them even to appeal against the order.Now that didn't stop our friends either! We have recently heard from someone, that these people are going around and telling people that it is they who have won the cases and painting quite the opposite picture. It is a very maligned and directed defamation. And he has very quietly fought against them and won the cases about a year and a half ago. I think no one even knows this.Best Regards,Sarbani Sarkar Rathhttp://sarbani.com-------------------------sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of amarFriday, June 01, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathOm Namah Shivaya,Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.And Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded bysarpas. COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and two malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which givesbetrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing. Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someonewho is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5th lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his heart.Incidentally,the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strongGuru too idealistic..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of hmuttagi1. lipanj 2007 8:56sohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathDear Shri Sanjay Ji,Pranam:Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?sincere regards--- In sohamsa , "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath wrote:>> This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare Krishna> movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish with> me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to go> to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I asked> my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500 and> so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna with> Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal purpose in> addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdigest.com> Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no other> option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases âEUR"Writ Petition> No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin face me> in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of dirty> tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the SmugglerI> am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment. All> equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally imported.> He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his huge> excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this, forget> it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > --> Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2p. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "amar" ahimsa ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:52 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,I am afraid we will get into a long discussion here.Exaltation does not change the graha being saumya or crura. Hitler Hadexaled Rahu in9th house, and look at his dharma. I am not comparing nor attributing youbad traits, just discussingthe matter. SO, one graha does not make a character. What Tijana stated therest of the chart should bejudged to see the person.What you stated is correct, I agree that Exatled Rahu gives high ideals, andexalted nodes in kendra givespirituality. However, Rahu is still crura. Do not take this personally, weare discussing Jyotish.To analyze your character, I repeat the whole picture will count.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf OfRafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 18:10sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanathhraum namah adityayaDear Tijana,Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals?Nodes in kendra gives spirituality..Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisal(a):Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gainingand money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted andmooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly dothat by the means of rightiousness.But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability tofight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritualyogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yogaformed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you muchtroubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have notturned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma andfather (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*>> Dear Anuragji,>> What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?>> Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in SarpaYoga.>> Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninthlord).>> Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.>> How You see those?>> *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com>> Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. InSanjay> > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is KapataYoga.> >> > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himselfhas the> > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, thereis a> > cheating tug-of-war going on.> >> > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, howwill> > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and ifit> > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> >> > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe afterbeing> > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how tospot> > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to beginwith.> > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will havein> > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditionalChristian> > thought goes.> >> > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.In> > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in thismanner.> >> > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And itwill.> > Nothing can really change that.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > >> > > Pranam:> > >> > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for beingcheated?> > >> > > sincere regards> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > Krishna> > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learnjyotish> > > with> > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. Hewas to> > > go> > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out thereand I> > > asked> > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimhagave $500> > > and> > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow gotinto a> > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wifewrote a> > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancerlagna> > > with> > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and ofSJVC.> > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimhain the> > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > purpose in> > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdigest.com> > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, thehard> > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.Ihad no> > > other> > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in thecourt.By the> > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the casesâEUR"Writ> > > Petition> > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of2004> > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and Iopenly> > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or toagin> > > face me> > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bagof> > > dirty> > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > SmugglerI> > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India tofight> > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and hasclandestinely> > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronicsproject by> > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well asthe> > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for theequipment.> > > All> > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > imported.> > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of asädhu> > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easilyfooled. The> > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checkinghis> > > huge> > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with allthis,> > > forget> > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/200705:35:00 PM> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 3a. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "Ramadas Rao" ramadasrao ramadasrao Fri Jun 1, 2007 1:30 pm (PST) OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Bharat Ji,Thanks for your mail.You have given a good interpretation using Vimshottari Dasa.But as per me,we have to use transits of major planets along with Budha and Kuja also.Now let us see now what Lord Narasimha can do ie., when he will take the lady's Seva of Tulabhara.Anyhow I also feel that both you and Ramanarayanan Ji gave almost similar period and now we have to wait for Lord Narasimha's Blessings.Meanwhile I am interested in her D-60 chart analysis with Moola Dasa.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote:Namaste Sri RamadasjiI haven't used Moola Dasha. I have used good old Vimshottari Dasa. I took the dates only for one month in advance since it was quite late at night. My reasonings are as follows:For any chart, for performing Tulabhara - the sign Libra (Tula) is important and so is its lord. Since dana is given, there has to be a connection between the 12th house or lord to the 9th house since it is being given for Dharma. Since coconut and rice is being offered, Moon has to be connected to the process. 12th lord is Shani. It is in Mercury's Nakshatra which is in the 9th house. This makes Mercury very important for performing any danam. This also gives her the trait of giving for religious purposes. Venus, the Tula rasi lord, is in nakshatra of Shani - lord of giving. Venus and Mercury combine in 9th house shows Tulabhara is possible in the Venus-Mercury mahadasha. Lord Narasimha Temple seems to near the coast, hence Moon is important once again. Prabhu Narasimha is the lord of Mars. There has to be a connection of Mars itself. Since Mercury, Venus, Mars and Moon are conjunct, the combination of their dasha, antardasha, prayantar,etc..should give the dates of Tulabhara. Mars in Mercury's nakshatra shows a possibility of the connection of an Avatara of Prabhu Vishnu the one that is denoted by Mars (Prabhu Narasimha) Considering the period of Sri Ramanarayanan to be correct, the following dates come to my mind:11- Oct -200715-10-2007 26-10-200731-10-200702-11-200711-11-2007Do let me know on the decided date as and when it happens, it'll help me in my study. Thanks for this wonderful query and it does help us think. Thanks & RegardsBharatOn 5/31/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Bharat Ji, Thanks for your mail.How you arrived such dates ? The lady wants to know when such event may happen during a particular Dasa- Antara- Pratyantara.You can use any Dasa system.It also seems that she is very good in occult Astrology and that is why she wrote to me that she is giving a clue to check her Moola Dasa to perform such Karma which may be due to some Past life incidents.Here what she wants is that as she wants to help a girl in getting her married by religious means,so she gave the Janma Nakshatra of the girl to make us know why she wants to perform Tulabhara. As per me this is really a tough query she asked and we have to analyse the chart with as much as methods we know.Also she wrote to me that she has performed the Tulabhara in a Krishna temple in Hyderabad many years before.I hope this helps.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu@ gmail.com> wrote:Namaste Sri RamadasjiThank you for the detailed information. I'd love to visit this place one day whenever I am down south. I have never attempted such a query before. The following days are what I have shortlisted for the Tulabhara Seva with Cocunuts and Rice: June 25, 2007June 27, 2007 to July 1, 2007July 4, 2007July 30, 2007August 22 and 27, 2007I shall try and shortlist further. Can you also confirm whether this lady has performed Tulabhara Seva many times before? It appears so from the chart. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 5/31/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Bharat Ji, Namaste.I gave a detailed explanation.Tulabhara Seva has to be performed by the said lady and not the girl to be married.Tulabhara has to be performed by rice and coconuts with the weight of the lady.The Narasimha temple is almost more than 800 years-1000 years old and is situated in a place called Saligrama which is a small village in Dakshina Kannada district and is about 55 Kms.from Mangalore city.The Sthala Purana says the idol of Lord Narasimha was earlier installed by Narada Maharshi.This Narasimha is called Guru Narasimha and is Ugra in look.The Sthala Purana says that when this idol was installed in that village,there was a paddy field which belonged to a Satwic Brahmin who is a worshipper of this Narasimha Swamy.But as the years were passed the power of Narasimha became so fierce that the crops started burning when that Brahmin was cultivating the paddy.Finally with a metal piece, he hit the idol on its head and a mark was formed due to his hit but still the problems not solved.Then finally the villagers changed the face of the idol to the reverse direction so that the Brahmin's crops should not be burnt.But eventhen in front of this idol, any house or any construction started to burn.Finally as per the advise of a Maharshi,Lord Anjaneya ( Hanuman ) has been installed and almost for 24 Hrs. a day, Chandana + butter paste is being applied to the body ofHanuman as HE started getting very hot ( Lord Hanuman's idol getting red hot ).This procedure is being followed now also. A powerful Lord Narasimha who can give boons to HIS woshippers.So when this said lady approaced the chief priest of this Narasimha temple, he said Lord Narasimha will arrange the marriage of the girl very soon but the lady has to perform the Tulabhara Seva within a week after the marraige and she agreed for that. So now the question is that by studying her chart, when she can perform this Seva to Lord Narasimha ? We can use any Dasa system to arrive at a appropriate period. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smaran,Ramadas Rao.Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu@ gmail.com> wrote:Namaste Sri RamadasjiA few queries:1. Is the Tulabhara to be performed by the lady whose birth details are given? 2. With what substance is the Tulabhara to be performed?3. Where is the Sri Narasimha Temple located? Awaiting your response.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 5/29/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in > wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Listed members,Here is one twisted query from a lady whose birth particulars are given below.You will see this special chart who has a Parivrajya Yoga along with some other occult experiences the lady is experiencing.She is helping a lot to the needed.She is highly religious and spiritual also.Recently she went to a Narasimha temple and performed her Prayers there and suddenly she asked a query to the chief Priest who is a Narasimha Upasaka that when the marriage of a girl whose Janma Nakshatra Krittika-4th Pada will take place ? Immidiately the priest told her that the girl will get married very soon but then she has to perform Tulabhara in front of Narasimha by means of rice and coconuts.Then she agreed for this special but important Seva.Now she asked me a query that when she can perform this Tulabhara ? Here the query is slightly a twisted one .The Seva of Tulabhara will be performed within a week of the marriage.So the query is when the marriage of the girl takes place so that thislady can perform the Seva of Tulabhara in front of Lord Narasimha ? She says that please check her Moola Dasa and find out what is in store with her .She does not wanted to give the birth particulars of the girl to be married excpet the Janma Nakshatra. Here are the birth details of the lady :7/12/1961 ,Time of birth : 13:57:50 Hrs.Place of Birth : Munirabad, India ( Long. : 76 Deg.E 20',Lat.: 15 Deg.N20')Discussions are welcome regarding this matter.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smaran,Ramadas Rao.Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3b. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "rama narayanan" sree88ganesha sree88ganesha Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:26 pm (PST) SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. i am happy to receive your responses. i had taken the birth time as 13hrs 52mts and 53secs. The Lagna in Shastyamsa is Kshiteesa. The lagna(Vrischika) lord Mars is placed in 12th in Thula. This indicates that she was born in Brahmin family in a north facing house in the past birth. Look at the rasi chart. The jala rasis get greater emphasis. This gives clue of her intuitive/psychic nature. The navamsa lagna is also Vrischika with Moon in it(intuitive/psychic). Mars the lagna lord placed in Kendra (Mars in kumbha in general is said to generate electrical energy which sometimes harms the vision - 10th house rules vision and Mars in 11th can harm this) in navamsa indicates the extra efforts/energy put by the atma to see through what's happening.Atmakaraka represent the spectacle/glasses worn by Atma to have a view of the world/life. The Atmakaraka shown in/for the rasi diagram is the manifested one/the one adopted by the jiva. Jivanmukthamsa is the 12th sign from the Karakamsa. This has nothing to do with AK generated by the software for the navamsa.The software generated varga Atmakarakas are nothing but the view points of jiva relating to the respective varga which is however,subject to the approval of AK of the rasi diagram. For eg. the navamsa generated AK can represent the dharmaatma but the manifested AK(rasi diagram) need not necessarily see eye to eye with this AK. In the case under consideration we have Venus as the software generated AK for navamsa which does not see eye to eye with Mars the Manifested AK. Mars blocks Venus ruler of Agneya in dik chakra by tenanting in Agneya in Kalachakra. This speaks of the inner struggle. Using the software generated longitudes we can know the varga nakshatra/varga thithi/varga yoga/varga karana. Is there a way to know the varga vaara?!!! We have to necessarily adopt the birth time only. This does not permit conversion. As per the sage the dina lord is akin to Sun and is closely associated with the jivaatma. Please take the AK generated for the birth time and found exhibited in rasi diagram as the AK. Greater clues are available with the deities associated with the varga chakras.The topic of varga longitudes and dasas for vargas is a subject by itself. Infact the dasas popularly called as conditional dasas throw greater light.As regards the curses - She has to offer Thirumangalya on a Friday during the rahu kala after lighting a lamp to Mother Lakshmi.Ask her to do the remedies. She can consider her Ista as Mahakaaleswara(Aghoramurthy to be specific).Mars with A8(Rna) in shastyamsa and subject to the aspects of Rahu and Sani gives the clue relating to the curse of the past life which needs to be set right. Ask her to chant the Narsimha mantra given already.i hope this is of some help.!!Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Your explanation is simply superb and I agree with you.Please elaborate further about the remedies you mentioned.She wrote me that she offered Mangalya ,one on a wednesday and the 2nd time on a Saturday recently.But is this should be on Fridays only ??Another thing is that Avinash wrote that Shukra is AK and in Navamsha he is with Ketu in 10th from Navamsha Lagna.I think he was mentioning about Shukra is AK for Navamsha chart which is correct.So he analyses the Navamsha chart's AK and gave the prediction.What do you say regarding this ?What about her D-60 chart ? How you rectified her birth time and what is the new time ? In D-60, Shukra becomes again AK placed in Vrishabha Rashi and is in 4th from D-60 Lagna.Rashi chart AK Kuja is in Tula and both planets are in Shastashtaka. What does this say ?Please elaborate little more.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. Thula represents the natural balance/7th house of kala purusha. It is symbolic of the act of harmonizing/yoking/balancing. She is currently running the Narayana dasa of Mesha the Lord of which is Mars. This Mars is placed in Scorpio in the 8th from the dasa rasi and 9th from Lagna which gives a subtle clue about the debts/deva rna. The antar dasa is that of Scorpio the natural 8th house. We see that the lord of dasa rasi involved in curse in the 8th from dasa rasi and we also see that the 10th house from dasa rasi is also housing a curse wherein we find the involvement of the 10th lord(from dasa rasi) also.We find AK Mars in Yama in dasamsa. This means that the Atmakaraka is having a proper direction. This Mars is placed in apaampati(ruler of ocean) in shastyamsa.i had rectified her birth time. i had used shat trimsa sama dasa(Balarama) and Moola dasa to arrive at the timings. More later..Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Today I got an email from the lady whose birth particulars we are discussing that she has conveyed sincere heartful thanks to you.She also feels that during the period mentioned by you she may perform the Seva of Tulabhara. She is already doing the remedies you have written in your previous mail. She wrote me that how you arrived at such a remedy ? She has already offered Mangalya to the LORD 2 times.She is also chanting the following Shivopasana /Rudra Mantra while performing Abhisheka on Shiva Linga :Om Shambhave Namah. Namaste astu bhagavan vishveshvaraya mahadevaya tryambakaya tripurantakaya trikagni kalaya kalagnirudraya nilakanthaya mrutyunjayaya sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya shriman mahadevaya namah. Om Nidhanapataye Namah Nidhanapatantikaya NamahUrdhvaya Namah Urdhvalingaya NamahHiranyaya Namah Hiranyalingaya NamahSuvarnaya Namah Suvarnalingaya NamahDivyaya Namah Divyalingaya NamahBhavaya Namah Bhavalingaya NamahSarvaya Namah Sarvalingaya NamahShivaya Namah Shivalingaya NamahJwalaya Namah Jwalalingaya NamahAtmaya Namah Atmalingaya NamahParamaya Namah Paramalingaya NamahEtath Somasya Suryasya SarvalingagaSthapayati Panimantram PavitramSadyo jatam prapadyami sadyojatayavai namo namahBhave bave naati bhave bhavasmamam bhavodbhavaya namahVama devaya namo jyesthaya nama shresthaya namoRudraya nama kalaya nama kalavikaranaya namo Balavikaranaya namo balaya namo balapramathanaya namahSarva bhoota damanaya namo manonmanaya namahAghorebhyo thagorebhyo ghora ghora tharebhyahSarvebhya sarva sarvebhya namaste astu rudra rupebhyaTat purshaya vidmahe mahadevaya dheemahi Tanno rudra prachodayaatEeshana sarva vidyanaam eeshwara sarva bhootanamBrahmadhipati brahmanodhipati Brahma shivome astu sada shivohamNamo hiranya bahave hiranya varnyaya Hiranya roopaya hiranya pataye Vikapataya umapataye pashupataye namo namahOm hara hara namah parvati pataye hara hara mahadevAlso one thing she wrote me that the chief priest told her to perform the Tulabhara Seva for the married couple.She asked me to write to you that is there any more remedies she has to do or what you wrote are enough ?Can you please analyse her D-60 chart and interpret her Moola Dasa ?I also request Sanjay Ji , other SJC Gurus and members of this list participate in this discussion and give their valuable analysis.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Did you know? 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Posted by: "Ramadas Rao" ramadasrao ramadasrao Fri Jun 1, 2007 11:19 pm (PST) OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,Thanks for your analysis through different Sahams.Now after using different Sahams and other methods, you wrote that when Guru transits Makaraka Rashi, the said Lady may perform Tulabhara Seva in front of Lord Narasimha.Now the problem is that as the birth particulars of the girl to be married is not available except her Janma Nakshatra Krittika -4th Pada,we can not judge from one side only.Anyhow we know that the Janma Rashi is Vrishabha,so Guru becomes 8th and 11th lord.Guru is the lord of Mangalya Sthana.So Guru transitting over his own house of Mangalya Sthana can bring about the marriage.This is what I feel.But when Guru transits over Makara which is 2nd from Mangalya Sthana which is considered Maraka for Mangalya Sthana, will marriage take place during this period or during Guru's transit over Vrischika Rashi itself as Guru aspects Vrishabha now ? As this is a direct aspect, I strongly feel that the girl's marriage may get fixed during this time and marriage may take place when Guru transits over Mangalya Sthana ie.,Dhanu Rashi.Now the remaining things either for early or delayed marriage of the girl will be decided by Lord Narasimha only.Thanks again for your inputs.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,PranamsLooking at Sahams, Karyasiddi Saham( fruitification of work) is in Dhanishta nakshatra and Vivaha Saham is in Dhanishta nakshatra, Yashas Saham (fame) is in Sravana.All are in Makara Rasi. I am therefore thinking ( along with dasas/bhukti and Transits)Tulabhara (linked to a marriage event) can take place when Guru transits in Makara Rasi in Dhanishta nakshatra ie Oct 2009. also I noted how mars is at that time Since each Saham indicates over one particular event of life, events as marriage, child birth, fame, travel, illness, death, crossing oceans etc I took note of it also. There is no indicative Saham in Dhanur rasi in this lady's chart that can relate in this aspect. Please see the labha saham is Kruttika nakshatra and the labha in this case could be Yashas for the lady because from Makara Guru will aspect Vrishabha at that time. When Shani is about to enter Kanya Rasi, her mental preparations for Daana ( Thulabhara)will begin because Shani is 12th lord (charity) and Kuja (AK)9th lord will be well aspecting each other around that time Please correct me and help me learn on this as I am a beginner.I offer my humble prayers to Sri. LakshmiNarasimhaSwamy to fulfil her wish much before predictive date as he is my Kulavamshadeva. Let my analysis be wrong.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,That is a very good explanation.You had gone little deeper using Nakshatra lords in each divisional chart.I agree that Ketu's Nakshatra lord is Rahu in D-10 chart and is in 9th in D-10 chart with Budha who is the dispositor for Ketu.Also Rahu becomes AmK for D-10 and Kuja becomes AK again.So I feel that the transit of Guru over Dhanu Rashi which becomes 10th from Rashi chart,transitting over 10th lord Budha and aspecting Guru in D-9 chart,Transitting over AmK Rahu and Budha the dispositor for Ketu in D-10 and aspecting Surya and Shani,Budha and Ketu in D-60 chart.Now Karma giver is Shani and the Phala or the result giver is Guru,so I strongly feel that Guru's transit over Dhanu Rashi will enable the lady to perform this Dharmic Seva of Tulabhara but to help a girl who is yet to be married.Just see that in D-60 chart,Surya is in Amrita Shastyamsha, Shani in Nirmala Shastyamsha and Ketu in Yaksha Shastyamsha.So transit Guru's aspect on these planets in D-60 may bringabout the event.Thanks for your inputs.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,PranamsVenus is her AK in Navamsa in the Chitta nakshatra which is ruled by Mars and is placed in her 10th house.Also her AK is Mars in the Poorvabhadra nakshatra ruled by Guru in D-10 and Venus is again her AK in D-60 chart in the mrigashira nakshatra ruled by Mars. Mars being her Rasi AK placed in 9th in the rasi chart has more to say and involved in the curse. Please look at her Ketu in dhanishta nakshatra in Rasi, it is in Hastha moon's nakshatra in navamsa ( in 10th)and in Aridra ruled by Rahu in D-10. Rahu is in cancer in the Rasi chart This is the reasoning behind my timing of Tulabhara around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate. Please excuse me if I am wrongCan you please ask the lady to atleast provide the birth details of the girl's father & that will help in timing.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,There is no problem even you are a beginner.But Kuja is AK and not Shukra as you wrote.Please check your calculations.Also I feel that Ketu's Moola Dasa will be more appropriate to give the results of debts of Past life.Is it not ?I request others to join this discussion to give more analysis of D-60 chart and Moola Dasa.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,Pranams. I am a beginner with bare basics. I very humbly put forth my thoughts. I think the said Tulabhara could take place around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate.Kindly look at Venus-Ketu position in the Navamsa in the 10th from Dhanur. Venus is also the atmakaraka in Navamsa Around the same time when shani transits into Kanya Rasi. Transit Shani will aspect the 9th house of the Rasi chart and it will pass over Venus and Ketu placed in Kanya Rasi in the 10th house in navamsa, Simultaneously Guru transit will also take place in Makara. Guru will be transiting over its natal position of the D-1, D10 chart D-60 ( In all Guru is in Makara) and also over Shani and ketu of the D-1which is important. By this time the Ketu Moola dasa ends and Guru moola dasa begins. If the girl's nakshatra is kruttika then Guru will be transiting through the 9th house for the girl in question in October 2009 for whose sake this Tulabhara is performed.I think we can expect a dharma karya when Guru transits over so many natal divisions for this lady in combination with 9th house Guru transit for the girl in question.Kindly forgive my mistakes. RegardsAvinashGet your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3d. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "Ramadas Rao" ramadasrao ramadasrao Fri Jun 1, 2007 11:30 pm (PST) OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.That is a fantastic analysis.I agree with you in all considerations.You have used all the Astrological parameters in this analysis.So you wanted to analyse her Shattrimsha Sama Dasa as her birth Lagna is in Simha and the birth being in day time.I will pass on your message to her so that she can perform the remedies correctly.Thanks again.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. i am happy to receive your responses. i had taken the birth time as 13hrs 52mts and 53secs. The Lagna in Shastyamsa is Kshiteesa. The lagna(Vrischika) lord Mars is placed in 12th in Thula. This indicates that she was born in Brahmin family in a north facing house in the past birth. Look at the rasi chart. The jala rasis get greater emphasis. This gives clue of her intuitive/psychic nature. The navamsa lagna is also Vrischika with Moon in it(intuitive/psychic). Mars the lagna lord placed in Kendra (Mars in kumbha in general is said to generate electrical energy which sometimes harms the vision - 10th house rules vision and Mars in 11th can harm this) in navamsa indicates the extra efforts/energy put by the atma to see through what's happening.Atmakaraka represent the spectacle/glasses worn by Atma to have a view of the world/life. The Atmakaraka shown in/for the rasi diagram is the manifested one/the one adopted by the jiva. Jivanmukthamsa is the 12th sign from the Karakamsa. This has nothing to do with AK generated by the software for the navamsa.The software generated varga Atmakarakas are nothing but the view points of jiva relating to the respective varga which is however,subject to the approval of AK of the rasi diagram. For eg. the navamsa generated AK can represent the dharmaatma but the manifested AK(rasi diagram) need not necessarily see eye to eye with this AK. In the case under consideration we have Venus as the software generated AK for navamsa which does not see eye to eye with Mars the Manifested AK. Mars blocks Venus ruler of Agneya in dik chakra by tenanting in Agneya in Kalachakra. This speaks of the inner struggle. Using the software generated longitudes we can know the varga nakshatra/varga thithi/varga yoga/varga karana. Is there a way to know the varga vaara?!!! We have to necessarily adopt the birth time only. This does not permit conversion. As per the sage the dina lord is akin to Sun and is closely associated with the jivaatma. Please take the AK generated for the birth time and found exhibited in rasi diagram as the AK. Greater clues are available with the deities associated with the varga chakras.The topic of varga longitudes and dasas for vargas is a subject by itself. Infact the dasas popularly called as conditional dasas throw greater light.As regards the curses - She has to offer Thirumangalya on a Friday during the rahu kala after lighting a lamp to Mother Lakshmi.Ask her to do the remedies. She can consider her Ista as Mahakaaleswara(Aghoramurthy to be specific).Mars with A8(Rna) in shastyamsa and subject to the aspects of Rahu and Sani gives the clue relating to the curse of the past life which needs to be set right. Ask her to chant the Narsimha mantra given already.i hope this is of some help.!!Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Your explanation is simply superb and I agree with you.Please elaborate further about the remedies you mentioned.She wrote me that she offered Mangalya ,one on a wednesday and the 2nd time on a Saturday recently.But is this should be on Fridays only ??Another thing is that Avinash wrote that Shukra is AK and in Navamsha he is with Ketu in 10th from Navamsha Lagna.I think he was mentioning about Shukra is AK for Navamsha chart which is correct.So he analyses the Navamsha chart's AK and gave the prediction.What do you say regarding this ?What about her D-60 chart ? How you rectified her birth time and what is the new time ? In D-60, Shukra becomes again AK placed in Vrishabha Rashi and is in 4th from D-60 Lagna.Rashi chart AK Kuja is in Tula and both planets are in Shastashtaka. What does this say ?Please elaborate little more.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. Thula represents the natural balance/7th house of kala purusha. It is symbolic of the act of harmonizing/yoking/balancing. She is currently running the Narayana dasa of Mesha the Lord of which is Mars. This Mars is placed in Scorpio in the 8th from the dasa rasi and 9th from Lagna which gives a subtle clue about the debts/deva rna. The antar dasa is that of Scorpio the natural 8th house. We see that the lord of dasa rasi involved in curse in the 8th from dasa rasi and we also see that the 10th house from dasa rasi is also housing a curse wherein we find the involvement of the 10th lord(from dasa rasi) also.We find AK Mars in Yama in dasamsa. This means that the Atmakaraka is having a proper direction. This Mars is placed in apaampati(ruler of ocean) in shastyamsa.i had rectified her birth time. i had used shat trimsa sama dasa(Balarama) and Moola dasa to arrive at the timings. More later..Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Today I got an email from the lady whose birth particulars we are discussing that she has conveyed sincere heartful thanks to you.She also feels that during the period mentioned by you she may perform the Seva of Tulabhara. She is already doing the remedies you have written in your previous mail. She wrote me that how you arrived at such a remedy ? She has already offered Mangalya to the LORD 2 times.She is also chanting the following Shivopasana /Rudra Mantra while performing Abhisheka on Shiva Linga :Om Shambhave Namah. Namaste astu bhagavan vishveshvaraya mahadevaya tryambakaya tripurantakaya trikagni kalaya kalagnirudraya nilakanthaya mrutyunjayaya sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya shriman mahadevaya namah. Om Nidhanapataye Namah Nidhanapatantikaya NamahUrdhvaya Namah Urdhvalingaya NamahHiranyaya Namah Hiranyalingaya NamahSuvarnaya Namah Suvarnalingaya NamahDivyaya Namah Divyalingaya NamahBhavaya Namah Bhavalingaya NamahSarvaya Namah Sarvalingaya NamahShivaya Namah Shivalingaya NamahJwalaya Namah Jwalalingaya NamahAtmaya Namah Atmalingaya NamahParamaya Namah Paramalingaya NamahEtath Somasya Suryasya SarvalingagaSthapayati Panimantram PavitramSadyo jatam prapadyami sadyojatayavai namo namahBhave bave naati bhave bhavasmamam bhavodbhavaya namahVama devaya namo jyesthaya nama shresthaya namoRudraya nama kalaya nama kalavikaranaya namo Balavikaranaya namo balaya namo balapramathanaya namahSarva bhoota damanaya namo manonmanaya namahAghorebhyo thagorebhyo ghora ghora tharebhyahSarvebhya sarva sarvebhya namaste astu rudra rupebhyaTat purshaya vidmahe mahadevaya dheemahi Tanno rudra prachodayaatEeshana sarva vidyanaam eeshwara sarva bhootanamBrahmadhipati brahmanodhipati Brahma shivome astu sada shivohamNamo hiranya bahave hiranya varnyaya Hiranya roopaya hiranya pataye Vikapataya umapataye pashupataye namo namahOm hara hara namah parvati pataye hara hara mahadevAlso one thing she wrote me that the chief priest told her to perform the Tulabhara Seva for the married couple.She asked me to write to you that is there any more remedies she has to do or what you wrote are enough ?Can you please analyse her D-60 chart and interpret her Moola Dasa ?I also request Sanjay Ji , other SJC Gurus and members of this list participate in this discussion and give their valuable analysis.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3e. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "avinash nandan" avina121 avina121 Sat Jun 2, 2007 12:12 am (PST) Dear Guruji,PranamsLooking at Sahams, Karyasiddi Saham( fruitification of work) is in Dhanishta nakshatra and Vivaha Saham is in Dhanishta nakshatra, Yashas Saham (fame) is in Sravana.All are in Makara Rasi. I am therefore thinking ( along with dasas/bhukti and Transits)Tulabhara (linked to a marriage event) can take place when Guru transits in Makara Rasi in Dhanishta nakshatra ie Oct 2009. also I noted how mars is at that time Since each Saham indicates over one particular event of life, events as marriage, child birth, fame, travel, illness, death, crossing oceans etc I took note of it also. There is no indicative Saham in Dhanur rasi in this lady's chart that can relate in this aspect. Please see the labha saham is Kruttika nakshatra and the labha in this case could be Yashas for the lady because from Makara Guru will aspect Vrishabha at that time. When Shani is about to enter Kanya Rasi, her mental preparations for Daana ( Thulabhara)will begin because Shani is 12th lord (charity) and Kuja (AK)9th lord will be well aspecting each other around that time Please correct me and help me learn on this as I am a beginner.I offer my humble prayers to Sri. LakshmiNarasimhaSwamy to fulfil her wish much before predictive date as he is my Kulavamshadeva. Let my analysis be wrong.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,That is a very good explanation.You had gone little deeper using Nakshatra lords in each divisional chart.I agree that Ketu's Nakshatra lord is Rahu in D-10 chart and is in 9th in D-10 chart with Budha who is the dispositor for Ketu.Also Rahu becomes AmK for D-10 and Kuja becomes AK again.So I feel that the transit of Guru over Dhanu Rashi which becomes 10th from Rashi chart,transitting over 10th lord Budha and aspecting Guru in D-9 chart,Transitting over AmK Rahu and Budha the dispositor for Ketu in D-10 and aspecting Surya and Shani,Budha and Ketu in D-60 chart.Now Karma giver is Shani and the Phala or the result giver is Guru,so I strongly feel that Guru's transit over Dhanu Rashi will enable the lady to perform this Dharmic Seva of Tulabhara but to help a girl who is yet to be married.Just see that in D-60 chart,Surya is in Amrita Shastyamsha, Shani in Nirmala Shastyamsha and Ketu in Yaksha Shastyamsha.So transit Guru's aspect on these planets in D-60 may bringabout the event.Thanks for your inputs.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,PranamsVenus is her AK in Navamsa in the Chitta nakshatra which is ruled by Mars and is placed in her 10th house.Also her AK is Mars in the Poorvabhadra nakshatra ruled by Guru in D-10 and Venus is again her AK in D-60 chart in the mrigashira nakshatra ruled by Mars. Mars being her Rasi AK placed in 9th in the rasi chart has more to say and involved in the curse. Please look at her Ketu in dhanishta nakshatra in Rasi, it is in Hastha moon's nakshatra in navamsa ( in 10th)and in Aridra ruled by Rahu in D-10. Rahu is in cancer in the Rasi chart This is the reasoning behind my timing of Tulabhara around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate. Please excuse me if I am wrongCan you please ask the lady to atleast provide the birth details of the girl's father & that will help in timing.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,There is no problem even you are a beginner.But Kuja is AK and not Shukra as you wrote.Please check your calculations.Also I feel that Ketu's Moola Dasa will be more appropriate to give the results of debts of Past life.Is it not ?I request others to join this discussion to give more analysis of D-60 chart and Moola Dasa.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,Pranams. I am a beginner with bare basics. I very humbly put forth my thoughts. I think the said Tulabhara could take place around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate.Kindly look at Venus-Ketu position in the Navamsa in the 10th from Dhanur. Venus is also the atmakaraka in Navamsa Around the same time when shani transits into Kanya Rasi. Transit Shani will aspect the 9th house of the Rasi chart and it will pass over Venus and Ketu placed in Kanya Rasi in the 10th house in navamsa, Simultaneously Guru transit will also take place in Makara. Guru will be transiting over its natal position of the D-1, D10 chart D-60 ( In all Guru is in Makara) and also over Shani and ketu of the D-1which is important. By this time the Ketu Moola dasa ends and Guru moola dasa begins. If the girl's nakshatra is kruttika then Guru will be transiting through the 9th house for the girl in question in October 2009 for whose sake this Tulabhara is performed.I think we can expect a dharma karya when Guru transits over so many natal divisions for this lady in combination with 9th house Guru transit for the girl in question.Kindly forgive my mistakes. RegardsAvinashGet your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) Recent Activity 2 New MembersVisit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Mail Next gen email? Try the all-new Mail Beta. Search Ads Get new customers. 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Guest guest Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Goel Ji, Thanks for your mail.The girl to be married is not the lady's daughter.She just want to help this girl in getting married.There is no relation between the two. Kuja being AK placed in 9th house placed in Jyeshta Nakshatra ruled by Budha which indicates Lord Narasimha whom she worships from her heart.Now the chief priest of Lord Narasimha temple told the lady that the girl will get married soon but after the marriage this lady should bring the girl with her husband and the lady should perform Tulabhara in front of Lord Narasimha with rice and coconuts.Here the lady wants to know from her chart which period Lord Narasimha takes this Seva from her.You can see most of the planets are in Nakshatras ruled by Budha- Surya, Kuja and Budha in Jyeshta, Rahu in Ashlesha and finally Lagna is also in Revati.So this is very clear that Budha is controlling her life ie., Lord Vishnu.Here Kuja being AK in Jyeshta ruled by Budha indicates clearly her surrenderness towards Lord Narasimha.Budha is the lord of 4th and 7th placed in 9th from Lagna and in AL.So Lord Narasimha is giving her indications to perform such kind of remedies to help a girl as the chart indicates an excellent Parivrajya Yoga.3rd house rules also friends and if we analyse from 3rd house,its lord Shukra is in 7th with 7th lord Kuja,Budha,the lord of 2nd and 5th,Surya,the 4th lord all are in 7th and Guru, Shani and Ketu are in 9th from 3rd.Looking from Vimshottari Dasa using 360 Savana days per year, presently Shukra -Budha period is going on.Shukra is 3rd and 8th lord,Budha is 4th and 7th lord but from 3rd house,Shukra is the lord 3rd house and Budha is 5th lord which is his exaltation sign from 3rd house.So an auspicious event has to take place during this period.Now the result giver is Guru.So Guru's Pratyantara which is placed in 9th with Karma Karaka Shani and Tyaga Karaka Ketu,which runs between 12/10/2007 and 25/02/2008,this auspicious event of Tulabhara may take place.To support this transit Guru is also over Vrischika ,so I feel that before Guru leaves Vrischika, the event may take place. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao Ji and other Friends, I have a humble submission to offer, 1. Why this lady do not have faith in the words of Lord Narasiimha, which were revealed to her through Chief Priest. 2. 5th house is occupied by Rahu, both 9th and 11th houses are badly afflicted, which happens to be 5th and 7th houses from 5th house. In such cases marriage is difficult, if not denied. 3. Mercury sub- dasa is running in Venus Major period. Venus is in R/K axis both in D-9 and D-7. Mercury is in 8th house in D-7 chart. 4. Her daughter is born in Ktittika , the massage is clear that she should marry her daughter to Lord and perform all worship as per rituals prescribed by temple chief priest Rest will be taken care by Lord himself. REGARDS G.K.GOEL sohamsa wrote: sohamsa Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1.1. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Anurag Sharma 1.2. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Rafal Gendarz 1.3. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Anurag Sharma 1.4. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran amar 2a. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Sarbani Sarkar Rath 2b. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2c. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2d. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2e. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2f. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2g. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2h. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal Gendarz 2i. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Anurag Sharma 2j. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath nix_nixen 2k. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath vedicastrostudent 2l. Odp: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Rafal G 2m. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath rashmi patel 2n. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath amar 2o. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath amar 2p. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath amar 3a. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Ramadas Rao 3b. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? rama narayanan 3c. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Ramadas Rao 3d. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Ramadas Rao 3e. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? avinash nandan View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1.1. Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran Posted by: "Anurag Sharma" anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com anuraagsharma27 Fri Jun 1, 2007 6:25 am (PST) |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|Learned Members,While on Navamsha placements, specifically with a view to rectification,proper identification of innate abilities, skills and intervention ofDestiny and God (Grahas in Kendra to Navamsha Lagna) as brought out byZoran's email below, and also in Visti Larsen's lecture on the subject,I remembered a terrific exchange between Pt. Sanjay Rath and PVRNarasimha Rao regarding the latter's Navamsha Chakra rectification. Thisexchange is available in the public archives in the Varahamihira group.I am posting the exchange below in my email for the benefit andrecollection of querists in this thread, learned Jyotishis, JyotishGurus and all concerned.Personally, the real gem that I found in the exchange below was the roleof the 3rd House in the Navamsha Chakra. It had specific relevance inthat I (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, India) haveexalted and Vakra Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana in this Bhava along withSvagrahi Chandra in Karka Amsa. In the exchange, Sanjay Ji explains thatthe 3rd House in Navamsha, shows 'what we do with our hands'. In otherwords it is in indicator of skill involving hands. I used to writeprofusely in Rahu Vimshottari Dasha but it was Dionysian fiction (Rahu).In Guru Mahadasha, I started writing Jyotish related articles whichreflected the grey zone of the Dasha Sandhi and carried shades of Rahu.As time went on Guru took more of a role in the writing. This seems tohave grown steadily in the Dasha. Even Consultancy related work partakesof the lengthiness of Jupiter's Karakattwa and this reflects in thearticles and papers as well.Please see the exchange below which I found to be very enriching.Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com'>http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com[Jagannath] Re: Narasimha's D-60 etc (Sanjay's deities)Hamsa Om So'hamDear Narasimha,When correcting the navamsa, please stick to navamsa. How are we goingto arrive at any decision if you keep on deviating into higher divisionswithout fixing the navamsa? My additional comments are below: ->> My father had already taken the time a little before the> first cry time. My father insists that Aries navamsa is> simply impossible.RATH: PLEASE ASK YOUR FATHER (HUMBLY) TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS ON THEREASONSFOR THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.> > > He said navamsa lagna in Taurus gives me some orientation towards> > > aesthetic things and pleasures.> > RATH :Any influence of Venus will give this.>> Yes, but this orientation towards aesthetic things is a> *salient* feature of my personality. Even as I think deeply> about the difference between Jupiter in 8th and 9th in> navamsa, I appreciate some music and some part of my body> taps to the music involuntarily. Right now, I am listening> to some music as I type this. The sense of aesthetic> well-being is a salient part of me.RATH: THERE ARE A LOT OF WESTERN ASTROLOGY CONCEPTS CREEPING INTOJYOTISH.MUSIC HAS TWO ASPECTS AND BOTH ARE RULED BY THE LUMINARIES. THAT IS WHYMUSIC IS SAID TO BE LIFE REJUVINATING. THE SUN RULES THE RHYTHEM & BEATWHILE THE MOON RULES THE MELODY AND SINGING, THE MOON SHOULD BE INTRINES ORTHE THIRD HOUSE FOR ABILITY TO COMPOSE POETRY, THE VENUS IN THE THIRDHOUSEGIVES THE ABILITY TO DECORATE OR PAINT.> Venus being lagna lord and occupying 2nd (house of general> taste) with Moon explains it better than Venus merely> aspecting lagna lord. Venusian and lunar influence on lagna> will be very small if I have Ar lagna.RATH: THE THIRD IS AN IMPORTANT HOUSE OF SKILLS IN THE NAVAMSA AS ITSHOWSWHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS AND ALSO RULED DHI SHAKTI TO THE EXTENT OFUTILISING THESE SKILLS. THE BEST PAINTERS HAVE VENUS IN THE THIRD IN THENAVAMSA. THUS IN BOTH THE CASES WE SEE THESE SKILLS.> Jupiter in 8th may produce a fool, but he is in his> moolatrikona here. In D-27, he is with Mercury in a> Mercurian sign. In D-24, he is in Pisces. Considering all> these, Jupiter in 8th in D-9 did not make me a fool and> only tuned my "dhee" in the direction of the hidden.RATH: AGAIN YOU ARE DEVIATING INTO OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS.> In any case, one who ignores what is in his front and keeps> searching for hidden things is a fool in a sense!RATH: NO, NO STREATCHING PLEASE. START USING PHILOSOPHY AND JYTISH RULESGOFOR A SIX. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALMOST EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IN THIS WAY.> If Jupiter in Sg is in 9th in D-9, it is unlikely to give> such "nigoodha tattva jijnasa" (the expression my father> used catches my spirit so well!) and one's intelligence is> likely to have the spirit of *conforming* and one will be> an obedient and conforming learner (which I am not). Even> as I respect my guru and his teachings, I always tend to> think that something is missing and I am always searching> for it. This makes excellent sense with Jupiter in 8th in> D-9. Jupiter in 9th may not give that spirit. I doubt it.RATH: THIS QUESTIONING COMES FROM THE INHERENT NATURE OF ARIES. WHEREDOESIT SAY ABOUT BEING A CONFIRMING LEARNER? JUPITER IN THE NINTH WILL SHOWONEWHO WILL USE CONSIDERABLE DHI SHAKTI FOR LEARNING. IT PRODUCES ONE WITHABROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE AND ALSO GIVES SKILLS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE & SCRIPTURES.> So, in a sense, I am a fool. But Jupiter's positive> strength in some divisions makes me a fool with a purpose.RATH: NO, THIS IS AGAIN STRETCHING THE POINT AND USING OTHER DIVISIONS.> > CONSTELLATION OF RAHU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAVAMSA HOUSE> PLACEMENT. IN>> No, I did not say there is a link. But both together> beautifully explain the direction in which my "dhee" is> tuned. I find my father's point very fascinating.RATH: THIS FASCINATION AND LIKES AND DISLIKES COME IN THE WAY OF REALANALYSIS. GET OVER IT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS I *REALLY* BELIEVED THAT MYNAVAMSAIS LIBRA AS THE RECORDED TIME SAID SO. AFTER ALL THERE WERE AS MANY ASEIGHTLADIES INSIDE THE BEDROOM, THE LADY DOCTOR HAD BEEN SPENDING THE DAY ATHOMEAND THERE WERE TWO NURSES AS WELL. MY GRANNIES WERE HAVING A SMALL PARTYANDONE WAS EVEN GIVING A RUNNING COMMENTARY! YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN BE ININDIA WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES. THE HOSPITAL HAD COMEHOME!AND THUS I WAS ALSO NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANY LOGIC. WHEN I WAS TOLDTHAT VENUS IN THE SECONE ASPECTED BY MARS FROM THE 8TH PRODUCES....MYANSWERWAS THAT KETU IS ALSO PLACED IN SCORPIO IN THE SECOND AND SHALL SINGLEHANDEDLY DEMOLISH THAT EVIL COMBINATION JUST LIKE GANESHA CURSED TULSITOBURN IN HER PASSION DUE TO HAVING DISTURBED HIS PENANCE UNTIL SHE WASRESCUED BY VISHNU. TODAY AFTER SEEING SO MANY CHARTS WITH SUCHCOMBINATIONS,I HAVE HUMBLY ACCEPTED WHAT WAS TAUGHT.IT IS NOT THAT I DISRESPECT MY ELDERS, BUT JUST THAT IT WAS MY OWNFORTUNE OR DAWN OF KNOWLEDGE OF SORTS. (OTHERS CAN CHECK MY NAVAMSA DOB:7AUG 1963; 9:15'pm IST; SAMBALPUR, INDIA 21N28 84E01).>> > FACT IF JUPITER IS IN THE NINTH HOUSE IN THE NAVAMSA THE NATIVESHALL> > RESPECT HIS GURU AND SHALL BE MOST DUTIFUL TOWARDS THEM. DR RAMAN> NEVER> > TAUGHT YOU JYOTISH PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU READ HIS BOOKS, LIKE> > EKALAVYA YOU BECAME DEVOTED TO HIM AND HAVE EVEN TAKEN UP CUDGELS> AGAINST K> > N RAO WHEN HE SPOKE ILL OF DR RAMAN. THEY WAY YOU DEFENDED DR RAMAN> SPEAKS> > VOLUMES AND I HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GURU SHOULD BE VERY> STRONG> > INFLUENCE IN YOUR DHARMA. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS FELT THAT YOURNAVAMSA> SHOULD>> That point has some strength in it. However, there were> many occasions in the past when I confronted my guru in> public over disagreements. I wasn't really an obedient> sishya in the true sense.>> It is true that I tend to behave like a warrior when one> does something adharmik (in my view). Sri K.N.Rao made some> cheap allegations on Dr. Raman in his books and that made> me mad. However, if someone politely says that Raman> ayanamsa is wrong, I will only say "I agree".>> Why Dr. Raman, let's take you. I always make my respect for> you known, but did I take your side when I was convinced> otherwise? For example, you talked about "the very strong> character of my friend" Goravani and forwarded to> vedic astrology list his mail in which he banned Chandra> Hari on GJlist. That suggested to me that you wanted me to> do the same thing on vedic astrology list. Did I do it?> First, when Chandra Hari abused you, I gently admonished> him. Later, as you crossed swords with him and deviated to> unnecessary things (tantrik, serpant's poison etc), did I> take your side?>> I don't think I am an obedient sishya who would always> obey and protect his guru.RATH: WHO SAYS YOU DISOBEYED? WHY SHOULD A SISYA BE A DOG? YOU DID WHATYOUFELT RIGHT AND I DID WHAT I FELT RIGHT. IF HE TRIES TO TALK ABOUT THEEFFECTOF THE MANTRA THAT I AM DOING OR TRIES TO GIVE A SUBTLE THREAT ABOUT HISTANTRIK POWERS, WELL, I JUST PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. THAT CHANDRA HAS NOIDEAOF WHAT TANTRICISM CAN BE. HE SHOULD MEET THE LIKES OF BHAGAVAN MISHRAORTHE KONTILO MAHARAJ OF BHOOTA SIDDHI WHO PERFORMED ANNUAL HUMANSACRIFICESUNTIL I PREVAILED UPON MY UNCLE TO PUT HIM BEHIND BARS. HE WAS SENT TOTHELOCK UP AND IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST TANTRICS AND BLACK MAGICIANS WHOINDULGEIN SUCH TERRIBLE ATROCITIES, I AM THE LAST TO STEP ASIDE. I HAVE MADETHIS AMISSION OF MY LIFE AND I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP OR SUPPORT ON OR OFFANYLIST IN ANY FORM OR MANNER. THE ONLY ONE I NEED IN THIS IS SRI JAGANNATHMAHAPRABHU. SO, LETS LEAVE CHANDRA OUT OF THIS NAVAMSA DISCUSSION.MY READING IS THAT CHANDRA IS DOWN, BUT NOT OUT.> Jupiter need not be in 9th to give a good sense of dharma.> Dharma karaka Sun in 9th in D-9 also gives a good sense of> dharma.RATH: KINDLY TELL ME WHERE YOU READ THIS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF DHARMASHASTRAFROM THE SUN. SUN IS THE EXECUTIVE KING WHO IS GUIDED INTO EXECUTION BYJUPITER EITHER AS THE KNOWLEDGABLE OR AS DIVINITY (GOD). THAT IS WHYJUPITERIN THE 8TH GIVES ASURA YOGA.> D-27 (Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa) is the chart of strengths and> weaknesses. Fiery Mars in his moolatrikona (fiery Aries)> occupies the 9th house (dharma) in my D-27 (with the middle> one-third of Taurus navamsa). That gives me an adament,> independent and warrior-like spirit of dharma. Each of the> three adjectives I used is absolutely appropriate when> describing my sense of dharma.RATH: THIS SPIRIT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE MARTIAN SIGN ARIES RISINGWITHJUPITER IN THE NINTH WITH MARS. AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH MARSGIVESYOU A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDANCE AND THAT TOO OF THE MARTIAN KIND, ANDTHATTOO IN MATTERS OF DHARMA (NINTH HOUSE). AGAIN YOU ARE GOING INTO OTHERDIVISIONS.> > RATH: I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE. YOU CANNOT HAVE VENUS> IN THE> > SECOND HOUSE ASPECTED BY MARS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC COMBINATION> FOR A> > CHARACTERLESS PERSON (WOMANIZER TO BE PRECISE). THE CONJUNCTION OF> MOON AND> > JUPITER DOES NOT REDUCE THIS, BUT ONLY INCREASES IT. IN VIEW OF THE> ABOVE,> > THE NAVAMSA LAGNA CANNOT BE TAURUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.>> We are a mixture of who our horoscope says we are, who we> strive to be and who our upasana makes us to be.>> Venus in 2nd with Martian aspect creates too much passion> and it could be said to be true in my case. You said Moon> and Jupiter increase it. But Jupiter is the strongest of> the 4 planets there and can't he suppress the passion with> upasana?RATH: NO, JUPITER IS EXPANSIVE BY NATURE AND WILL EXPAND THIS *CREATIVE*POTENTIAL ALSO. I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT PASSION STATEMENT YOU MADEABOUTYOURSELF. NOW THIS STATEMENT IS ALSO PROVING THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS ARIESWITHMARS IN THE NINTH HOUSE. JUST TO PROVE THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS TAURUS, YOUWILLSTART ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE PASSIONATE, HAVE ASURIC QUALITIES, ANDEVERYTHING THAT I SAY WOULD BE INDICATED. NO, I AM NOT GOING TO ACCEPTTHISABOUT YOU. IN A WAY I ADMIRE YOU. I DID EXACTLY THIS SAME THIS MANYYEARSBACK! SOMETIMES GOD GIVES IT BACK IN THIS LIFE.>> My father told me at a young age that I would either become> an unprincipled and perverted person addicted to alcohol> and such things or a very spiritual person of extraordinary> achievements. He told me one of the two extremes would> take place.RATH: HE SAID THIS FROM THE RASI CHART DUE TO THE PLANETS IN THE EIGHTHHOUSE WHICH CAN GO EITHER WAY. THE DHARMAKARMADIPATI YOGA CAN MAKE YOU AVERY PRINCIPLED MAN OR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE 8TH CAN MAKE YOU A GONECASE.AGAIN THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA DISCUSIION AND I AGREE WITH YOURFATHERSREADINGS OF THE CHART.> He told me that Jupiter has a very strong influence on the> whole rasi chart and on the whole navamsa chart and he told> me to capture that influence with upasana. Because he is in> Swathi, Jupiter will become very favorable with upasana and> he is the only one who can steer my life in the right> direction through the considerable influence he has in my> rasi and navamsa charts. This was my father's instruction> and he made me start my upasana at a young age. All that> upasana surely had its effect and channelled the Jovian> influence in my rasi and navamsa charts.RATH: I AGREE WITH THE EFFECTS OF UPASANA, BUT WHAT YOU SAY FITS BETTERWITHTHE JUPITER IN THE NINTH IN NAVAMSA WHEREBY YOUR FATHER ACTUALLY BECOMESYOUR GURU.> Yes and I have already indicated that my marital life> wasn't smooth at all in the last 3-4 years.>RATH: NEITHER WAS MINE, NOR WAS THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY PERSON I KNOW. BUTTHEMARRIAGE SURVIVES AND THIS ONLY PROVES MY POINT. IN FACT THE MARRIAGEWILLSURVIVE A LONG TIME AND LET ME MAKE THIS PREDICTION NOW AND HERE "THATYOUWILL SURVIVE YOUR WIFE". PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO PADMAJA. IN INDIA, THISISSTILL CONSIDERED A GREAT BLESSING FOR THE LADY.* * *>> > What is the real implication of the seventh Lord of Rasi Chart> being> > placed in the 8th house in Navamsa. Will Jupiter be in the 8th house> in the> > Navamsa? Then which planet gave you the knowledge of Sanskrit?>> Jupiter.>> D-24 is the chart of education. In my D-24, Jupiter is very> strong in Pisces. He aspects the lagna and 4th house and> that gave me knowledge of Sanskrit at a young age.RATH; AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. THIS IS THE DHARMA AMSAANDTHIS IS WHAT WE BRING WITH US FROM THE LAST LIFE. IN FACT FIRST STUDYTHERASI & NAVAMS AND THEN ONLY ENTER THE OTHER DIVISIONS. HAVE YOU MADE THED-24 OF A RIKSHAW PULLER? I WILL DISCUSS THIS DIVISIONS LATER.> Whenever I get recognition for my knowledge (state first, a> request for interview, class first at IIT etc), Li, Ge and> Aq are involved in Narayana dasa. With Ge lagna, lord of Ge> is in 5th (Li). AL is in Aq and Ge is the 5th from AL (and> Li has the 5th lord from AL).RATH: WE SHALL COME TO THIS AND YOU WILL ALSO AGREE THEN THAT THE DASAISCORRECT. FIRST, LET US FIX THE NAVAMSA.> My main strength in life has been the ability to learn and> grasp things very quickly. D-24 lagna lord Mercury in 5th> fits well IMHO. If you change navamsa lagna, D-24 lagna> changes from Ge to Ta.RATH: AGAIN OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS NOW.> D-20 lagna also changes if we change D-9 lagna to Ar. With> the current Ta lagna in D-20, Mercury is in 2nd in own> house and lagna lord Venus is debilitated in 5th, aspected> by Mercury. My family deity is Narayana (Mercury). My ishta> daiva are Sri Maha Lakshmi (debilitated planet: goddess and> Venus: Lakshmi) and Narayana.RATH: WHY NOT MERCURY IN THE FOURTH HOUSE IN D-20? ANYWAY WE SHALL COMETOTHIS LATER.> > How much does the time have to move for the Lagna to be (A) Aries> and> > (B) Gemini?>> To make it Ge, we need to add 7 min 25 sec. To make it Ar,> we need to subtract 6 min 22 sec.>RATH: OK. THEN SUBTRACT THE TIME AND GIVE A CHART FOR ARIES NAVAMSA. ITHINKNARAYAN HAS GIVEN SOME TIMING.BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATHSanjay Rathsohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Rafal,> Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixedkarma.> Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about sexand> coming into many> relationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8thhouse> would not do so.Further> Magnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason I saidto> many relationships, however> Sarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.> I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both Arudhaand> Upapada, terrible for marriage..> Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsa which is> problem. Either he had too many relationships> and remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsa shouldchange> if there were not many relationships..> This is based on a quick look at the chart..> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of> Rafal Gendarz> 1. lipanj 2007 13:07> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran>>> hraum namah adityaya>> Dear Zoranji,>> Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga sayno> relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsashows> many relationship...which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa Yogashows> delays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this strengththe> other yogas? How You would resolve this?>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com>> amar napisal(a):>>> Om Namah Shivaya,> I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12thhouse> leave you unmarried.> Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement fromNavamsa> should also give the same,> unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th house in> Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.> I think your chart need rectification.Current navamsa Lagna shows too> many relationships...> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On> Behalf Of ND> 1. lipanj 2007 2:21> sohamsa > RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran>>> Dear Zoran,>> I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply to Rahu> lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never beenmarried.> [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N 31]>> Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed in this> thread.>> regards,> ND>> amar ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Rafal,> Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On> Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> 31. svibanj 2007 8:33> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay>>> hare rama krsna>> Dear Zoran ,>> Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is very> planning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste (Jupiter).So SC> is rejected.>> Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> amar napisal(a):> Dear Rafal,> I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however I was> taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.> In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu Navamsa> Lagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I am not> saying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,> however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.> Regards> Zoran> > sohamsa > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> 30. svibanj 2007 9:01> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay>>> hare rama krsna>> Dear Zoran,>> I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for some> clarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for thispurpose and> these are correct.>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> amar napisal(a):> Dear Rafal,> How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda nor> Pranapada are correct.> Best wishes> Zoran> > sohamsa > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> 29. svibanj 2007 19:11> sohamsa > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay>>> hare rama krsna>> Dear Anurag,>> Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. I> recall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightage than> general lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I found its> working.>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> Anurag Sharma napisal(a):> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> Dear Rafal,> Namaskar.> I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,> Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from theAK> face difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course, ifthere> is confluence of more factors affecting one life area in the MaranaKaraka> Sthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.> In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,> Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK. Ilost my> father when I was an infant. Of course, there are several otherfeatures in> the chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.> Regards,> Anurag Sharma> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hare rama krsna*> >> > Dear Anurag,> >> > Very good points.> >> > I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve (or> at least 2) must> > be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H but that> for certain can be> > problem..but small.> >> > Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru in kona> gives chaste> > lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ive> found one good mail> > from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflicting Guru> so the ghosts> > take the chastity away..rather sad state of affairs.> >> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal@> > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > Namaskar.> > >> > > Another reason for problems in getting married could> be the fact that> > > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are in Marana> Karaka Sthana from> > > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea and the> people who arrive> > > to take on the role of spouse.> > >> > > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take it to be> just Guru alone> > > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as it> obtains in the Rashi?> > > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone in> Vrishchik and giving> > > great innate wisdom and width of philosophical> thought, purity etc OR> > > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Anurag Sharma> > >> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> > > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > > >> > > > *Ramadasji:*> > > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility of> Rasis? Pls elaborate.> > > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show bad> experience, no delay. Infact> > > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspect can> be good and often> > > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa gives> Kuja-bhanga) .> > > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:> Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Surya tell us> about strength of> > > > attachement.> > > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say about> marriage?> > > >> > > > *Anuragji:*> > > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and not bad> marriage?> > > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru in> Vrscika Lagna D9.> > > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing to do> with delay.> > > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, and when> Lord is there then its> > > > changed,> > > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > > >> > > > Still there are two (I see three more) things> which needs to be> > > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> > > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > The following points are important in causing> delay in marriage in> > > the> > > > > present chart :> > > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, another> fixed Rashi,its lord> > > Shani> > > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in a> chara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who is Vakra> ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani and> afflicted by the> > > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja as Shani> is involved in 7th> > > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7th house.> > > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted by the> nodes.> > > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is with Mandi.> > > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra is> within 42 Degs.20' and> > > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse. Rahu is> at a higher> > > longitude> > > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu is> coming near to Surya to> > > > > swallow him.> > > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7th lord> Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factor in> delaying the marriage.> > > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,Sarpa Shaapa,Stree> Shaapa and chanting of> > > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > >> > > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > > >> > > > > *Krishna:> > > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > *Anurag:*> > > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, not> neccesarily delay.> > > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > > >> > > > > You missed one or two important point(s), please> see again.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > >> Namaskar.> > > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.> There may be a> > > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibit> conflicts of interest> > > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse of> Jupiter caused by Surya> > > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondary> Curse of Venus. The> > > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted by Mangal> and Shani.> > > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lord Rahu> showing that> > > > >> marriage and relationships shall be the focal> area of the> > > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and 8th> Lord are involved.> > > > >> It can be remedied.> > > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondary> Kalatra Shrapa in the> > > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the 7th> House, Shani is> > > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved in> Curses showing some> > > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupies the> 9th Bhava in> > > > >> Navamsha.> > > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th House from> the AL.> > > > >> Regards,> > > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.> com> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> --- In sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> <starsuponme@ ...>> > > > >> wrote:> > > > >> >> > > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > > >> >> > > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person, who> was not married yet> > > > >> altough> > > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa of Naisargik> = delayed). There> > > > >> were some> > > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > > >> > *> > > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 serious doshas)> and waiting for Your> > > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which support> delay ?> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > Regards,> > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > >> > email: rafal@> > > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > > --------- ------> > > > > Download prohibited? No problem! 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Yes person is like that.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comAnurag Sharma napisa?(a):>> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|>> Learned Members,>> While on Navamsha placements, specifically with a view to > rectification, proper identification of innate abilities, skills and > intervention of Destiny and God (Grahas in Kendra to Navamsha Lagna) > as brought out by Zoran's email below, and also in Visti Larsen's > lecture on the subject, I remembered a terrific exchange between Pt. > Sanjay Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao regarding the latter's Navamsha > Chakra rectification. This exchange is available in the public > archives in the Varahamihira group. I am posting the exchange below in > my email for the benefit and recollection of querists in this thread, > learned Jyotishis, Jyotish Gurus and all concerned.>> Personally, the real gem that I found in the exchange below was the > role of the 3rd House in the Navamsha Chakra. It had specific > relevance in that I (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack, Orissa, > India) have exalted and Vakra Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana in this > Bhava along with Svagrahi Chandra in Karka Amsa. In the exchange, > Sanjay Ji explains that the 3rd House in Navamsha, shows 'what we do > with our hands'. In other words it is in indicator of skill involving > hands. I used to write profusely in Rahu Vimshottari Dasha but it was > Dionysian fiction (Rahu).>> In Guru Mahadasha, I started writing Jyotish related articles which > reflected the grey zone of the Dasha Sandhi and carried shades of > Rahu. As time went on Guru took more of a role in the writing. This > seems to have grown steadily in the Dasha. Even Consultancy related > work partakes of the lengthiness of Jupiter's Karakattwa and this > reflects in the articles and papers as well.>> Please see the exchange below which I found to be very enriching.>> Regards,>> Anurag Sharma>> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com>> [Jagannath] Re: Narasimha's D-60 etc (Sanjay's deities)>> >> Hamsa Om So'ham> Dear Narasimha,> When correcting the navamsa, please stick to navamsa. How are we going> to arrive at any decision if you keep on deviating into higher divisions> without fixing the navamsa? My additional comments are below: ->>> >> > My father had already taken the time a little before the> > first cry time. My father insists that Aries navamsa is> > simply impossible.> RATH: PLEASE ASK YOUR FATHER (HUMBLY) TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS ON THE REASONS> FOR THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.>> > > > He said navamsa lagna in Taurus gives me some orientation towards> > > > aesthetic things and pleasures.> > > RATH :Any influence of Venus will give this.> >> > Yes, but this orientation towards aesthetic things is a> > *salient* feature of my personality. Even as I think deeply> > about the difference between Jupiter in 8th and 9th in> > navamsa, I appreciate some music and some part of my body> > taps to the music involuntarily. Right now, I am listening> > to some music as I type this. The sense of aesthetic> > well-being is a salient part of me.> RATH: THERE ARE A LOT OF WESTERN ASTROLOGY CONCEPTS CREEPING INTO JYOTISH.> MUSIC HAS TWO ASPECTS AND BOTH ARE RULED BY THE LUMINARIES. THAT IS WHY> MUSIC IS SAID TO BE LIFE REJUVINATING. THE SUN RULES THE RHYTHEM & BEAT> WHILE THE MOON RULES THE MELODY AND SINGING, THE MOON SHOULD BE IN > TRINES OR> THE THIRD HOUSE FOR ABILITY TO COMPOSE POETRY, THE VENUS IN THE THIRD > HOUSE> GIVES THE ABILITY TO DECORATE OR PAINT.>> > Venus being lagna lord and occupying 2nd (house of general> > taste) with Moon explains it better than Venus merely> > aspecting lagna lord. Venusian and lunar influence on lagna> > will be very small if I have Ar lagna.>> */ RATH: THE THIRD IS AN IMPORTANT HOUSE OF SKILLS IN THE NAVAMSA AS > IT SHOWS> WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS AND ALSO RULED DHI SHAKTI TO THE EXTENT OF> UTILISING THESE SKILLS. THE BEST PAINTERS HAVE VENUS IN THE THIRD IN THE> NAVAMSA. THUS IN BOTH THE CASES WE SEE THESE SKILLS. /* */> /*> > Jupiter in 8th may produce a fool, but he is in his> > moolatrikona here. In D-27, he is with Mercury in a> > Mercurian sign. In D-24, he is in Pisces. Considering all> > these, Jupiter in 8th in D-9 did not make me a fool and> > only tuned my "dhee" in the direction of the hidden.>> RATH: AGAIN YOU ARE DEVIATING INTO OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS.>>> > In any case, one who ignores what is in his front and keeps> > searching for hidden things is a fool in a sense!>> RATH: NO, NO STREATCHING PLEASE. START USING PHILOSOPHY AND JYTISH > RULES GO> FOR A SIX. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALMOST EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IN THIS WAY.>> > If Jupiter in Sg is in 9th in D-9, it is unlikely to give> > such "nigoodha tattva jijnasa" (the expression my father> > used catches my spirit so well!) and one's intelligence is> > likely to have the spirit of *conforming* and one will be> > an obedient and conforming learner (which I am not). Even> > as I respect my guru and his teachings, I always tend to> > think that something is missing and I am always searching> > for it. This makes excellent sense with Jupiter in 8th in> > D-9. Jupiter in 9th may not give that spirit. I doubt it.>> RATH: THIS QUESTIONING COMES FROM THE INHERENT NATURE OF ARIES. WHERE DOES> IT SAY ABOUT BEING A CONFIRMING LEARNER? JUPITER IN THE NINTH WILL > SHOW ONE> WHO WILL USE CONSIDERABLE DHI SHAKTI FOR LEARNING. IT PRODUCES ONE WITH A> BROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE AND ALSO GIVES SKILLS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE & > SCRIPTURES.>> > So, in a sense, I am a fool. But Jupiter's positive> > strength in some divisions makes me a fool with a purpose.>> RATH: NO, THIS IS AGAIN STRETCHING THE POINT AND USING OTHER DIVISIONS.>>> > > CONSTELLATION OF RAHU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAVAMSA HOUSE> > PLACEMENT. IN> >> > No, I did not say there is a link. But both together> > beautifully explain the direction in which my "dhee" is> > tuned. I find my father's point very fascinating.>> RATH: THIS FASCINATION AND LIKES AND DISLIKES COME IN THE WAY OF REAL> ANALYSIS. GET OVER IT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS I *REALLY* BELIEVED THAT MY > NAVAMSA> IS LIBRA AS THE RECORDED TIME SAID SO. AFTER ALL THERE WERE AS MANY AS > EIGHT> LADIES INSIDE THE BEDROOM, THE LADY DOCTOR HAD BEEN SPENDING THE DAY > AT HOME> AND THERE WERE TWO NURSES AS WELL. MY GRANNIES WERE HAVING A SMALL > PARTY AND> ONE WAS EVEN GIVING A RUNNING COMMENTARY! YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN BE IN> INDIA WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES. THE HOSPITAL HAD COME > HOME!> AND THUS I WAS ALSO NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANY LOGIC. WHEN I WAS TOLD> THAT VENUS IN THE SECONE ASPECTED BY MARS FROM THE 8TH PRODUCES.... MY > ANSWER> WAS THAT KETU IS ALSO PLACED IN SCORPIO IN THE SECOND AND SHALL SINGLE> HANDEDLY DEMOLISH THAT EVIL COMBINATION JUST LIKE GANESHA CURSED TULSI TO> BURN IN HER PASSION DUE TO HAVING DISTURBED HIS PENANCE UNTIL SHE WAS> RESCUED BY VISHNU. TODAY AFTER SEEING SO MANY CHARTS WITH SUCH > COMBINATIONS,> I HAVE HUMBLY ACCEPTED WHAT WAS TAUGHT.> IT IS NOT THAT I DISRESPECT MY ELDERS, BUT JUST THAT IT WAS MY OWN> FORTUNE OR DAWN OF KNOWLEDGE OF SORTS. (OTHERS CAN CHECK MY NAVAMSA DOB: 7> AUG 1963; 9:15'pm IST; SAMBALPUR, INDIA 21N28 84E01).>> >> > > FACT IF JUPITER IS IN THE NINTH HOUSE IN THE NAVAMSA THE NATIVE SHALL> > > RESPECT HIS GURU AND SHALL BE MOST DUTIFUL TOWARDS THEM. DR RAMAN> > NEVER> > > TAUGHT YOU JYOTISH PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU READ HIS BOOKS, LIKE> > > EKALAVYA YOU BECAME DEVOTED TO HIM AND HAVE EVEN TAKEN UP CUDGELS> > AGAINST K> > > N RAO WHEN HE SPOKE ILL OF DR RAMAN. THEY WAY YOU DEFENDED DR RAMAN> > SPEAKS> > > VOLUMES AND I HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GURU SHOULD BE VERY> > STRONG> > > INFLUENCE IN YOUR DHARMA. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS FELT THAT YOUR NAVAMSA> > SHOULD> >> > That point has some strength in it. However, there were> > many occasions in the past when I confronted my guru in> > public over disagreements. I wasn't really an obedient> > sishya in the true sense.> >> > It is true that I tend to behave like a warrior when one> > does something adharmik (in my view). Sri K.N.Rao made some> > cheap allegations on Dr. Raman in his books and that made> > me mad. However, if someone politely says that Raman> > ayanamsa is wrong, I will only say "I agree".> >> > Why Dr. Raman, let's take you. I always make my respect for> > you known, but did I take your side when I was convinced> > otherwise? For example, you talked about "the very strong> > character of my friend" Goravani and forwarded to> > vedic astrology list his mail in which he banned Chandra> > Hari on GJlist. That suggested to me that you wanted me to> > do the same thing on vedic astrology list. Did I do it?> > First, when Chandra Hari abused you, I gently admonished> > him. Later, as you crossed swords with him and deviated to> > unnecessary things (tantrik, serpant's poison etc), did I> > take your side?> >> > I don't think I am an obedient sishya who would always> > obey and protect his guru.>> RATH: WHO SAYS YOU DISOBEYED? WHY SHOULD A SISYA BE A DOG? YOU DID > WHAT YOU> FELT RIGHT AND I DID WHAT I FELT RIGHT. IF HE TRIES TO TALK ABOUT THE > EFFECT> OF THE MANTRA THAT I AM DOING OR TRIES TO GIVE A SUBTLE THREAT ABOUT HIS> TANTRIK POWERS, WELL, I JUST PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. THAT CHANDRA HAS NO > IDEA> OF WHAT TANTRICISM CAN BE. HE SHOULD MEET THE LIKES OF BHAGAVAN MISHRA OR> THE KONTILO MAHARAJ OF BHOOTA SIDDHI WHO PERFORMED ANNUAL HUMAN SACRIFICES> UNTIL I PREVAILED UPON MY UNCLE TO PUT HIM BEHIND BARS. HE WAS SENT TO THE> LOCK UP AND IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST TANTRICS AND BLACK MAGICIANS WHO INDULGE> IN SUCH TERRIBLE ATROCITIES, I AM THE LAST TO STEP ASIDE. I HAVE MADE > THIS A> MISSION OF MY LIFE AND I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP OR SUPPORT ON OR > OFF ANY> LIST IN ANY FORM OR MANNER. THE ONLY ONE I NEED IN THIS IS SRI JAGANNATH> MAHAPRABHU. SO, LETS LEAVE CHANDRA OUT OF THIS NAVAMSA DISCUSSION.> MY READING IS THAT CHANDRA IS DOWN, BUT NOT OUT.>>>> > Jupiter need not be in 9th to give a good sense of dharma.> > Dharma karaka Sun in 9th in D-9 also gives a good sense of> > dharma.>> RATH: KINDLY TELL ME WHERE YOU READ THIS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF DHARMA SHASTRA> FROM THE SUN. SUN IS THE EXECUTIVE KING WHO IS GUIDED INTO EXECUTION BY> JUPITER EITHER AS THE KNOWLEDGABLE OR AS DIVINITY (GOD). THAT IS WHY > JUPITER> IN THE 8TH GIVES ASURA YOGA.>> > D-27 (Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa) is the chart of strengths and> > weaknesses. Fiery Mars in his moolatrikona (fiery Aries)> > occupies the 9th house (dharma) in my D-27 (with the middle> > one-third of Taurus navamsa). That gives me an adament,> > independent and warrior-like spirit of dharma. Each of the> > three adjectives I used is absolutely appropriate when> > describing my sense of dharma.>> RATH: THIS SPIRIT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE MARTIAN SIGN ARIES RISING > WITH> JUPITER IN THE NINTH WITH MARS. AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH MARS GIVES> YOU A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDANCE AND THAT TOO OF THE MARTIAN KIND, AND > THAT> TOO IN MATTERS OF DHARMA (NINTH HOUSE). AGAIN YOU ARE GOING INTO OTHER> DIVISIONS.>> > > RATH: I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE. YOU CANNOT HAVE VENUS> > IN THE> > > SECOND HOUSE ASPECTED BY MARS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC COMBINATION> > FOR A> > > CHARACTERLESS PERSON (WOMANIZER TO BE PRECISE). THE CONJUNCTION OF> > MOON AND> > > JUPITER DOES NOT REDUCE THIS, BUT ONLY INCREASES IT. IN VIEW OF THE> > ABOVE,> > > THE NAVAMSA LAGNA CANNOT BE TAURUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.> >> > We are a mixture of who our horoscope says we are, who we> > strive to be and who our upasana makes us to be.> >> > Venus in 2nd with Martian aspect creates too much passion> > and it could be said to be true in my case. You said Moon> > and Jupiter increase it. But Jupiter is the strongest of> > the 4 planets there and can't he suppress the passion with> > upasana?>> RATH: NO, JUPITER IS EXPANSIVE BY NATURE AND WILL EXPAND THIS *CREATIVE*> POTENTIAL ALSO. I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT PASSION STATEMENT YOU MADE > ABOUT> YOURSELF. NOW THIS STATEMENT IS ALSO PROVING THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS > ARIES WITH> MARS IN THE NINTH HOUSE. JUST TO PROVE THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS TAURUS, > YOU WILL> START ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE PASSIONATE, HAVE ASURIC QUALITIES, AND> EVERYTHING THAT I SAY WOULD BE INDICATED. NO, I AM NOT GOING TO ACCEPT > THIS> ABOUT YOU. IN A WAY I ADMIRE YOU. I DID EXACTLY THIS SAME THIS MANY YEARS> BACK! SOMETIMES GOD GIVES IT BACK IN THIS LIFE.>> >> > My father told me at a young age that I would either become> > an unprincipled and perverted person addicted to alcohol> > and such things or a very spiritual person of extraordinary> > achievements. He told me one of the two extremes would> > take place.>> RATH: HE SAID THIS FROM THE RASI CHART DUE TO THE PLANETS IN THE EIGHTH> HOUSE WHICH CAN GO EITHER WAY. THE DHARMAKARMADIPATI YOGA CAN MAKE YOU A> VERY PRINCIPLED MAN OR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE 8TH CAN MAKE YOU A GONE > CASE.> AGAIN THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA DISCUSIION AND I AGREE WITH YOUR FATHERS> READINGS OF THE CHART.>>> > He told me that Jupiter has a very strong influence on the> > whole rasi chart and on the whole navamsa chart and he told> > me to capture that influence with upasana. Because he is in> > Swathi, Jupiter will become very favorable with upasana and> > he is the only one who can steer my life in the right> > direction through the considerable influence he has in my> > rasi and navamsa charts. This was my father's instruction> > and he made me start my upasana at a young age. All that> > upasana surely had its effect and channelled the Jovian> > influence in my rasi and navamsa charts.>> RATH: I AGREE WITH THE EFFECTS OF UPASANA, BUT WHAT YOU SAY FITS > BETTER WITH> THE JUPITER IN THE NINTH IN NAVAMSA WHEREBY YOUR FATHER ACTUALLY BECOMES> YOUR GURU.>>> > Yes and I have already indicated that my marital life> > wasn't smooth at all in the last 3-4 years.>> >> RATH: NEITHER WAS MINE, NOR WAS THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY PERSON I KNOW. > BUT THE> MARRIAGE SURVIVES AND THIS ONLY PROVES MY POINT. IN FACT THE MARRIAGE WILL> SURVIVE A LONG TIME AND LET ME MAKE THIS PREDICTION NOW AND HERE "THAT YOU> WILL SURVIVE YOUR WIFE". PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO PADMAJA. IN INDIA , THIS IS> STILL CONSIDERED A GREAT BLESSING FOR THE LADY.>> * * *> >> > > What is the real implication of the seventh Lord of Rasi Chart> > being> > > placed in the 8th house in Navamsa. Will Jupiter be in the 8th house> > in the> > > Navamsa? Then which planet gave you the knowledge of Sanskrit?> >> > Jupiter.> >> > D-24 is the chart of education. In my D-24, Jupiter is very> > strong in Pisces. He aspects the lagna and 4th house and> > that gave me knowledge of Sanskrit at a young age.>> RATH; AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. THIS IS THE DHARMA > AMSA AND> THIS IS WHAT WE BRING WITH US FROM THE LAST LIFE. IN FACT FIRST STUDY THE> RASI & NAVAMS AND THEN ONLY ENTER THE OTHER DIVISIONS. HAVE YOU MADE THE> D-24 OF A RIKSHAW PULLER? I WILL DISCUSS THIS DIVISIONS LATER.>> > Whenever I get recognition for my knowledge (state first, a> > request for interview, class first at IIT etc), Li, Ge and> > Aq are involved in Narayana dasa. With Ge lagna, lord of Ge> > is in 5th (Li). AL is in Aq and Ge is the 5th from AL (and> > Li has the 5th lord from AL ).>> RATH: WE SHALL COME TO THIS AND YOU WILL ALSO AGREE THEN THAT THE DASA IS> CORRECT. FIRST, LET US FIX THE NAVAMSA.>> > My main strength in life has been the ability to learn and> > grasp things very quickly. D-24 lagna lord Mercury in 5th> > fits well IMHO. If you change navamsa lagna, D-24 lagna> > changes from Ge to Ta.>> RATH: AGAIN OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS NOW.>> > D-20 lagna also changes if we change D-9 lagna to Ar. With> > the current Ta lagna in D-20, Mercury is in 2nd in own> > house and lagna lord Venus is debilitated in 5th, aspected> > by Mercury. My family deity is Narayana (Mercury). My ishta> > daiva are Sri Maha Lakshmi (debilitated planet: goddess and> > Venus: Lakshmi) and Narayana.>> RATH: WHY NOT MERCURY IN THE FOURTH HOUSE IN D-20? ANYWAY WE SHALL COME TO> THIS LATER.>> > > How much does the time have to move for the Lagna to be (A) Aries> > and> > > (B) Gemini?> >> > To make it Ge, we need to add 7 min 25 sec. To make it Ar,> > we need to subtract 6 min 22 sec.> >> RATH: OK. THEN SUBTRACT THE TIME AND GIVE A CHART FOR ARIES NAVAMSA. I > THINK> NARAYAN HAS GIVEN SOME TIMING.>>> BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATH> Sanjay Rath>> >> sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixed > karma.> > Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about > sex and> > coming into many> > relationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8th house> > would not do so.Further> > Magnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason I said to> > many relationships, however> > Sarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.> > I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both > Arudha and> > Upapada, terrible for marriage..> > Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsa which is> > problem. Either he had too many relationships> > and remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsa should > change> > if there were not many relationships. .> > This is based on a quick look at the chart..> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On > Behalf Of> > Rafal Gendarz> > 1. lipanj 2007 13:07> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> >> >> > hraum namah adityaya> >> > Dear Zoranji,> >> > Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga > say no> > relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsa shows> > many relationship. ..which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa > Yoga shows> > delays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this > strength the> > other yogas? How You would resolve this?> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> >> > amar napisal(a):> >> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12th house> > leave you unmarried.> > Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement from Navamsa> > should also give the same,> > unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th house in> > Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.> > I think your chart need rectification. Current navamsa Lagna shows too> > many relationships. ..> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On> > Behalf Of ND> > 1. lipanj 2007 2:21> > sohamsa@ .com> > RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> >> >> > Dear Zoran,> >> > I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply to Rahu> > lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never been > married.> > [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N 31]> >> > Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed in this> > thread.> >> > regards,> > ND> >> > amar ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 31. svibanj 2007 8:33> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> >> >> > hare rama krsna> >> > Dear Zoran ,> >> > Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is very> > planning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste > (Jupiter). So SC> > is rejected.> >> > Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > amar napisal(a):> > Dear Rafal,> > I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however I was> > taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.> > In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu Navamsa> > Lagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I am not> > saying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,> > however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.> > Regards> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com> > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 30. svibanj 2007 9:01> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> >> >> > hare rama krsna> >> > Dear Zoran,> >> > I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for some> > clarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for this > purpose and> > these are correct.> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > amar napisal(a):> > Dear Rafal,> > How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda nor> > Pranapada are correct.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > > > sohamsa@ .com> > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 29. svibanj 2007 19:11> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> >> >> > hare rama krsna> >> > Dear Anurag,> >> > Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. I> > recall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightage than> > general lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I found its> > working.> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > www.rohinaa. com> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> >> > Anurag Sharma napisal(a):> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > Dear Rafal,> > Namaskar.> > I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,> > Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from > the AK> > face difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course, > if there> > is confluence of more factors affecting one life area in the Marana > Karaka> > Sthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.> > In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,> > Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK. I > lost my> > father when I was an infant. Of course, there are several other > features in> > the chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.> > Regards,> > Anurag Sharma> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Anurag,> > >> > > Very good points.> > >> > > I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve (or> > at least 2) must> > > be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H but that> > for certain can be> > > problem..but small.> > >> > > Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru in kona> > gives chaste> > > lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ive> > found one good mail> > > from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflicting Guru> > so the ghosts> > > take the chastity away..rather sad state of affairs.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > Namaskar.> > > >> > > > Another reason for problems in getting married could> > be the fact that> > > > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are in Marana> > Karaka Sthana from> > > > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea and the> > people who arrive> > > > to take on the role of spouse.> > > >> > > > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take it to be> > just Guru alone> > > > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as it> > obtains in the Rashi?> > > > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone in> > Vrishchik and giving> > > > great innate wisdom and width of philosophical> > thought, purity etc OR> > > > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > > > >> > > > > *Ramadasji:*> > > > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility of> > Rasis? Pls elaborate.> > > > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show bad> > experience, no delay. Infact> > > > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspect can> > be good and often> > > > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa gives> > Kuja-bhanga) .> > > > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:> > Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Surya tell us> > about strength of> > > > > attachement.> > > > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say about> > marriage?> > > > >> > > > > *Anuragji:*> > > > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and not bad> > marriage?> > > > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru in> > Vrscika Lagna D9.> > > > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing to do> > with delay.> > > > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, and when> > Lord is there then its> > > > > changed,> > > > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > > > >> > > > > Still there are two (I see three more) things> > which needs to be> > > > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > >> > > > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > The following points are important in causing> > delay in marriage in> > > > the> > > > > > present chart :> > > > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, another> > fixed Rashi,its lord> > > > Shani> > > > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in a> > chara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who is Vakra> > ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani and> > afflicted by the> > > > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja as Shani> > is involved in 7th> > > > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7th house.> > > > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted by the> > nodes.> > > > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is with Mandi.> > > > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra is> > within 42 Degs.20' and> > > > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse. Rahu is> > at a higher> > > > longitude> > > > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu is> > coming near to Surya to> > > > > > swallow him.> > > > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7th lord> > Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factor in> > delaying the marriage.> > > > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,Sarpa Shaapa,Stree> > Shaapa and chanting of> > > > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > >> > > > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > > > >> > > > > > *Krishna:> > > > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > > > >> > > > > > *Anurag:*> > > > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, not> > neccesarily delay.> > > > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > > > >> > > > > > You missed one or two important point(s), please> > see again.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> Namaskar.> > > > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.> > There may be a> > > > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibit> > conflicts of interest> > > > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse of> > Jupiter caused by Surya> > > > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondary> > Curse of Venus. The> > > > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted by Mangal> > and Shani.> > > > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lord Rahu> > showing that> > > > > >> marriage and relationships shall be the focal> > area of the> > > > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and 8th> > Lord are involved.> > > > > >> It can be remedied.> > > > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondary> > Kalatra Shrapa in the> > > > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the 7th> > House, Shani is> > > > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved in> > Curses showing some> > > > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupies the> > 9th Bhava in> > > > > >> Navamsha.> > > > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th House from> > the AL.> > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.> > com> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ ...>> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person, who> > was not married yet> > > > > >> altough> > > > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa of Naisargik> > = delayed). There> > > > > >> were some> > > > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > > > >> > *> > > > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 serious doshas)> > and waiting for Your> > > > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which support> > delay ?> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > >> > email: rafal@> > > > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > > > --------- ------> > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem! 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But I will mostcertainly read the Navamsha one again, perhaps even today, if I can.The other ones I recall right away are Sanjay Ji's paper on theShashthyamsha (D-60) and I think Visti's and Sarajit Poddar's papers onthe Siddhamsha (D-24). Just from memory.Interestingly, the resolute 'Author of the Software' has persisted withthe Vrishabh Navamsha Lagna despite the lengthy exchange.Best regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com'>http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com<http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>--- In sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*>> Dear Anuragji,>> I also have this discussion. Nice piece.>> Skills part is also covered in one lecture from Varga chakra book.There> is descripiton of every graha.>> In this chart this is problem because even if we take Dhanus Lg (like> Zoranji advocates) then still Guru and Rahu are in Paka giving some> abilities. Then Venus in lagna gives creativity and strong psyche. Yes> person is like that.>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com>> Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Learned Members,> >> > While on Navamsha placements, specifically with a view to> > rectification, proper identification of innate abilities, skills and> > intervention of Destiny and God (Grahas in Kendra to Navamsha Lagna)> > as brought out by Zoran's email below, and also in Visti Larsen's> > lecture on the subject, I remembered a terrific exchange between Pt.> > Sanjay Rath and PVR Narasimha Rao regarding the latter's Navamsha> > Chakra rectification. This exchange is available in the public> > archives in the Varahamihira group. I am posting the exchange belowin> > my email for the benefit and recollection of querists in thisthread,> > learned Jyotishis, Jyotish Gurus and all concerned.> >> > Personally, the real gem that I found in the exchange below was the> > role of the 3rd House in the Navamsha Chakra. It had specific> > relevance in that I (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack, Orissa,> > India) have exalted and Vakra Guru in Marana Karaka Sthana in this> > Bhava along with Svagrahi Chandra in Karka Amsa. In the exchange,> > Sanjay Ji explains that the 3rd House in Navamsha, shows 'what we do> > with our hands'. In other words it is in indicator of skillinvolving> > hands. I used to write profusely in Rahu Vimshottari Dasha but itwas> > Dionysian fiction (Rahu).> >> > In Guru Mahadasha, I started writing Jyotish related articles which> > reflected the grey zone of the Dasha Sandhi and carried shades of> > Rahu. As time went on Guru took more of a role in the writing. This> > seems to have grown steadily in the Dasha. Even Consultancy related> > work partakes of the lengthiness of Jupiter's Karakattwa and this> > reflects in the articles and papers as well.> >> > Please see the exchange below which I found to be very enriching.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> >> > [Jagannath] Re: Narasimha's D-60 etc (Sanjay's deities)> >> >> >> > Hamsa Om So'ham> > Dear Narasimha,> > When correcting the navamsa, please stick to navamsa. How are wegoing> > to arrive at any decision if you keep on deviating into higherdivisions> > without fixing the navamsa? My additional comments are below: -> >> >> > >> > > My father had already taken the time a little before the> > > first cry time. My father insists that Aries navamsa is> > > simply impossible.> > RATH: PLEASE ASK YOUR FATHER (HUMBLY) TO GIVE HIS COMMENTS ON THEREASONS> > FOR THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.> >> > > > > He said navamsa lagna in Taurus gives me some orientationtowards> > > > > aesthetic things and pleasures.> > > > RATH :Any influence of Venus will give this.> > >> > > Yes, but this orientation towards aesthetic things is a> > > *salient* feature of my personality. Even as I think deeply> > > about the difference between Jupiter in 8th and 9th in> > > navamsa, I appreciate some music and some part of my body> > > taps to the music involuntarily. Right now, I am listening> > > to some music as I type this. The sense of aesthetic> > > well-being is a salient part of me.> > RATH: THERE ARE A LOT OF WESTERN ASTROLOGY CONCEPTS CREEPING INTOJYOTISH.> > MUSIC HAS TWO ASPECTS AND BOTH ARE RULED BY THE LUMINARIES. THAT ISWHY> > MUSIC IS SAID TO BE LIFE REJUVINATING. THE SUN RULES THE RHYTHEM & BEAT> > WHILE THE MOON RULES THE MELODY AND SINGING, THE MOON SHOULD BE IN> > TRINES OR> > THE THIRD HOUSE FOR ABILITY TO COMPOSE POETRY, THE VENUS IN THETHIRD> > HOUSE> > GIVES THE ABILITY TO DECORATE OR PAINT.> >> > > Venus being lagna lord and occupying 2nd (house of general> > > taste) with Moon explains it better than Venus merely> > > aspecting lagna lord. Venusian and lunar influence on lagna> > > will be very small if I have Ar lagna.> >> > */ RATH: THE THIRD IS AN IMPORTANT HOUSE OF SKILLS IN THE NAVAMSA AS> > IT SHOWS> > WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR HANDS AND ALSO RULED DHI SHAKTI TO THEEXTENT OF> > UTILISING THESE SKILLS. THE BEST PAINTERS HAVE VENUS IN THE THIRD INTHE> > NAVAMSA. THUS IN BOTH THE CASES WE SEE THESE SKILLS. /* */> > /*> > > Jupiter in 8th may produce a fool, but he is in his> > > moolatrikona here. In D-27, he is with Mercury in a> > > Mercurian sign. In D-24, he is in Pisces. Considering all> > > these, Jupiter in 8th in D-9 did not make me a fool and> > > only tuned my "dhee" in the direction of the hidden.> >> > RATH: AGAIN YOU ARE DEVIATING INTO OTHER DIVISIONAL CHARTS.> >> >> > > In any case, one who ignores what is in his front and keeps> > > searching for hidden things is a fool in a sense!> >> > RATH: NO, NO STREATCHING PLEASE. START USING PHILOSOPHY AND JYTISH> > RULES GO> > FOR A SIX. YOU CAN JUSTIFY ALMOST EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING IN THISWAY.> >> > > If Jupiter in Sg is in 9th in D-9, it is unlikely to give> > > such "nigoodha tattva jijnasa" (the expression my father> > > used catches my spirit so well!) and one's intelligence is> > > likely to have the spirit of *conforming* and one will be> > > an obedient and conforming learner (which I am not). Even> > > as I respect my guru and his teachings, I always tend to> > > think that something is missing and I am always searching> > > for it. This makes excellent sense with Jupiter in 8th in> > > D-9. Jupiter in 9th may not give that spirit. I doubt it.> >> > RATH: THIS QUESTIONING COMES FROM THE INHERENT NATURE OF ARIES.WHERE DOES> > IT SAY ABOUT BEING A CONFIRMING LEARNER? JUPITER IN THE NINTH WILL> > SHOW ONE> > WHO WILL USE CONSIDERABLE DHI SHAKTI FOR LEARNING. IT PRODUCES ONEWITH A> > BROAD KNOWLEDGE BASE AND ALSO GIVES SKILLS IN TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE & > > SCRIPTURES.> >> > > So, in a sense, I am a fool. But Jupiter's positive> > > strength in some divisions makes me a fool with a purpose.> >> > RATH: NO, THIS IS AGAIN STRETCHING THE POINT AND USING OTHERDIVISIONS.> >> >> > > > CONSTELLATION OF RAHU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NAVAMSA HOUSE> > > PLACEMENT. IN> > >> > > No, I did not say there is a link. But both together> > > beautifully explain the direction in which my "dhee" is> > > tuned. I find my father's point very fascinating.> >> > RATH: THIS FASCINATION AND LIKES AND DISLIKES COME IN THE WAY OFREAL> > ANALYSIS. GET OVER IT. FOR FIFTEEN YEARS I *REALLY* BELIEVED THAT MY> > NAVAMSA> > IS LIBRA AS THE RECORDED TIME SAID SO. AFTER ALL THERE WERE AS MANYAS> > EIGHT> > LADIES INSIDE THE BEDROOM, THE LADY DOCTOR HAD BEEN SPENDING THE DAY> > AT HOME> > AND THERE WERE TWO NURSES AS WELL. MY GRANNIES WERE HAVING A SMALL> > PARTY AND> > ONE WAS EVEN GIVING A RUNNING COMMENTARY! YOU KNOW HOW THINGS CAN BEIN> > INDIA WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT KIND OF RESOURCES. THE HOSPITAL HADCOME> > HOME!> > AND THUS I WAS ALSO NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANY LOGIC. WHEN I WASTOLD> > THAT VENUS IN THE SECONE ASPECTED BY MARS FROM THE 8TH PRODUCES....MY> > ANSWER> > WAS THAT KETU IS ALSO PLACED IN SCORPIO IN THE SECOND AND SHALLSINGLE> > HANDEDLY DEMOLISH THAT EVIL COMBINATION JUST LIKE GANESHA CURSEDTULSI TO> > BURN IN HER PASSION DUE TO HAVING DISTURBED HIS PENANCE UNTIL SHEWAS> > RESCUED BY VISHNU. TODAY AFTER SEEING SO MANY CHARTS WITH SUCH> > COMBINATIONS,> > I HAVE HUMBLY ACCEPTED WHAT WAS TAUGHT.> > IT IS NOT THAT I DISRESPECT MY ELDERS, BUT JUST THAT IT WAS MY OWN> > FORTUNE OR DAWN OF KNOWLEDGE OF SORTS. (OTHERS CAN CHECK MY NAVAMSADOB: 7> > AUG 1963; 9:15'pm IST; SAMBALPUR, INDIA 21N28 84E01).> >> > >> > > > FACT IF JUPITER IS IN THE NINTH HOUSE IN THE NAVAMSA THE NATIVESHALL> > > > RESPECT HIS GURU AND SHALL BE MOST DUTIFUL TOWARDS THEM. DRRAMAN> > > NEVER> > > > TAUGHT YOU JYOTISH PERSONALLY. JUST BECAUSE YOU READ HIS BOOKS,LIKE> > > > EKALAVYA YOU BECAME DEVOTED TO HIM AND HAVE EVEN TAKEN UPCUDGELS> > > AGAINST K> > > > N RAO WHEN HE SPOKE ILL OF DR RAMAN. THEY WAY YOU DEFENDED DRRAMAN> > > SPEAKS> > > > VOLUMES AND I HAD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GURU SHOULD BEVERY> > > STRONG> > > > INFLUENCE IN YOUR DHARMA. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS FELT THAT YOURNAVAMSA> > > SHOULD> > >> > > That point has some strength in it. However, there were> > > many occasions in the past when I confronted my guru in> > > public over disagreements. I wasn't really an obedient> > > sishya in the true sense.> > >> > > It is true that I tend to behave like a warrior when one> > > does something adharmik (in my view). Sri K.N.Rao made some> > > cheap allegations on Dr. Raman in his books and that made> > > me mad. However, if someone politely says that Raman> > > ayanamsa is wrong, I will only say "I agree".> > >> > > Why Dr. Raman, let's take you. I always make my respect for> > > you known, but did I take your side when I was convinced> > > otherwise? For example, you talked about "the very strong> > > character of my friend" Goravani and forwarded to> > > vedic astrology list his mail in which he banned Chandra> > > Hari on GJlist. That suggested to me that you wanted me to> > > do the same thing on vedic astrology list. Did I do it?> > > First, when Chandra Hari abused you, I gently admonished> > > him. Later, as you crossed swords with him and deviated to> > > unnecessary things (tantrik, serpant's poison etc), did I> > > take your side?> > >> > > I don't think I am an obedient sishya who would always> > > obey and protect his guru.> >> > RATH: WHO SAYS YOU DISOBEYED? WHY SHOULD A SISYA BE A DOG? YOU DID> > WHAT YOU> > FELT RIGHT AND I DID WHAT I FELT RIGHT. IF HE TRIES TO TALK ABOUTTHE> > EFFECT> > OF THE MANTRA THAT I AM DOING OR TRIES TO GIVE A SUBTLE THREAT ABOUTHIS> > TANTRIK POWERS, WELL, I JUST PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. THAT CHANDRA HASNO> > IDEA> > OF WHAT TANTRICISM CAN BE. HE SHOULD MEET THE LIKES OF BHAGAVANMISHRA OR> > THE KONTILO MAHARAJ OF BHOOTA SIDDHI WHO PERFORMED ANNUAL HUMANSACRIFICES> > UNTIL I PREVAILED UPON MY UNCLE TO PUT HIM BEHIND BARS. HE WAS SENTTO THE> > LOCK UP AND IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST TANTRICS AND BLACK MAGICIANS WHOINDULGE> > IN SUCH TERRIBLE ATROCITIES, I AM THE LAST TO STEP ASIDE. I HAVEMADE> > THIS A> > MISSION OF MY LIFE AND I DON'T NEED ANYBODY'S HELP OR SUPPORT ON OR> > OFF ANY> > LIST IN ANY FORM OR MANNER. THE ONLY ONE I NEED IN THIS IS SRIJAGANNATH> > MAHAPRABHU. SO, LETS LEAVE CHANDRA OUT OF THIS NAVAMSA DISCUSSION.> > MY READING IS THAT CHANDRA IS DOWN, BUT NOT OUT.> >> >> >> > > Jupiter need not be in 9th to give a good sense of dharma.> > > Dharma karaka Sun in 9th in D-9 also gives a good sense of> > > dharma.> >> > RATH: KINDLY TELL ME WHERE YOU READ THIS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF DHARMASHASTRA> > FROM THE SUN. SUN IS THE EXECUTIVE KING WHO IS GUIDED INTO EXECUTIONBY> > JUPITER EITHER AS THE KNOWLEDGABLE OR AS DIVINITY (GOD). THAT IS WHY> > JUPITER> > IN THE 8TH GIVES ASURA YOGA.> >> > > D-27 (Bhamsa or Nakshatramsa) is the chart of strengths and> > > weaknesses. Fiery Mars in his moolatrikona (fiery Aries)> > > occupies the 9th house (dharma) in my D-27 (with the middle> > > one-third of Taurus navamsa). That gives me an adament,> > > independent and warrior-like spirit of dharma. Each of the> > > three adjectives I used is absolutely appropriate when> > > describing my sense of dharma.> >> > RATH: THIS SPIRIT IS BETTER EXPLAINED BY THE MARTIAN SIGN ARIESRISING> > WITH> > JUPITER IN THE NINTH WITH MARS. AS THE LAGNA LORD IN THE NINTH MARSGIVES> > YOU A GREAT DEAL OF INDEPENDANCE AND THAT TOO OF THE MARTIAN KIND,AND> > THAT> > TOO IN MATTERS OF DHARMA (NINTH HOUSE). AGAIN YOU ARE GOING INTOOTHER> > DIVISIONS.> >> > > > RATH: I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT IN YOUR HOROSCOPE. YOU CANNOT HAVEVENUS> > > IN THE> > > > SECOND HOUSE ASPECTED BY MARS. THIS IS A VERY SPECIFICCOMBINATION> > > FOR A> > > > CHARACTERLESS PERSON (WOMANIZER TO BE PRECISE). THE CONJUNCTIONOF> > > MOON AND> > > > JUPITER DOES NOT REDUCE THIS, BUT ONLY INCREASES IT. IN VIEW OFTHE> > > ABOVE,> > > > THE NAVAMSA LAGNA CANNOT BE TAURUS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.> > >> > > We are a mixture of who our horoscope says we are, who we> > > strive to be and who our upasana makes us to be.> > >> > > Venus in 2nd with Martian aspect creates too much passion> > > and it could be said to be true in my case. You said Moon> > > and Jupiter increase it. But Jupiter is the strongest of> > > the 4 planets there and can't he suppress the passion with> > > upasana?> >> > RATH: NO, JUPITER IS EXPANSIVE BY NATURE AND WILL EXPAND THIS*CREATIVE*> > POTENTIAL ALSO. I FULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT PASSION STATEMENT YOUMADE> > ABOUT> > YOURSELF. NOW THIS STATEMENT IS ALSO PROVING THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS> > ARIES WITH> > MARS IN THE NINTH HOUSE. JUST TO PROVE THAT YOUR NAVAMSA IS TAURUS,> > YOU WILL> > START ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE PASSIONATE, HAVE ASURIC QUALITIES, AND> > EVERYTHING THAT I SAY WOULD BE INDICATED. NO, I AM NOT GOING TOACCEPT> > THIS> > ABOUT YOU. IN A WAY I ADMIRE YOU. I DID EXACTLY THIS SAME THIS MANYYEARS> > BACK! SOMETIMES GOD GIVES IT BACK IN THIS LIFE.> >> > >> > > My father told me at a young age that I would either become> > > an unprincipled and perverted person addicted to alcohol> > > and such things or a very spiritual person of extraordinary> > > achievements. He told me one of the two extremes would> > > take place.> >> > RATH: HE SAID THIS FROM THE RASI CHART DUE TO THE PLANETS IN THEEIGHTH> > HOUSE WHICH CAN GO EITHER WAY. THE DHARMAKARMADIPATI YOGA CAN MAKEYOU A> > VERY PRINCIPLED MAN OR THEIR PLACEMENT IN THE 8TH CAN MAKE YOU AGONE> > CASE.> > AGAIN THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA DISCUSIION AND I AGREE WITH YOURFATHERS> > READINGS OF THE CHART.> >> >> > > He told me that Jupiter has a very strong influence on the> > > whole rasi chart and on the whole navamsa chart and he told> > > me to capture that influence with upasana. Because he is in> > > Swathi, Jupiter will become very favorable with upasana and> > > he is the only one who can steer my life in the right> > > direction through the considerable influence he has in my> > > rasi and navamsa charts. This was my father's instruction> > > and he made me start my upasana at a young age. All that> > > upasana surely had its effect and channelled the Jovian> > > influence in my rasi and navamsa charts.> >> > RATH: I AGREE WITH THE EFFECTS OF UPASANA, BUT WHAT YOU SAY FITS> > BETTER WITH> > THE JUPITER IN THE NINTH IN NAVAMSA WHEREBY YOUR FATHER ACTUALLYBECOMES> > YOUR GURU.> >> >> > > Yes and I have already indicated that my marital life> > > wasn't smooth at all in the last 3-4 years.> >> > >> > RATH: NEITHER WAS MINE, NOR WAS THIS FOR ALMOST EVERY PERSON I KNOW.> > BUT THE> > MARRIAGE SURVIVES AND THIS ONLY PROVES MY POINT. IN FACT THEMARRIAGE WILL> > SURVIVE A LONG TIME AND LET ME MAKE THIS PREDICTION NOW AND HERE"THAT YOU> > WILL SURVIVE YOUR WIFE". PLEASE CONVEY THIS TO PADMAJA. IN INDIA ,THIS IS> > STILL CONSIDERED A GREAT BLESSING FOR THE LADY.> >> > * * *> > >> > > > What is the real implication of the seventh Lord of Rasi Chart> > > being> > > > placed in the 8th house in Navamsa. Will Jupiter be in the 8thhouse> > > in the> > > > Navamsa? Then which planet gave you the knowledge of Sanskrit?> > >> > > Jupiter.> > >> > > D-24 is the chart of education. In my D-24, Jupiter is very> > > strong in Pisces. He aspects the lagna and 4th house and> > > that gave me knowledge of Sanskrit at a young age.> >> > RATH; AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. THIS IS THE DHARMA> > AMSA AND> > THIS IS WHAT WE BRING WITH US FROM THE LAST LIFE. IN FACT FIRSTSTUDY THE> > RASI & NAVAMS AND THEN ONLY ENTER THE OTHER DIVISIONS. HAVE YOU MADETHE> > D-24 OF A RIKSHAW PULLER? I WILL DISCUSS THIS DIVISIONS LATER.> >> > > Whenever I get recognition for my knowledge (state first, a> > > request for interview, class first at IIT etc), Li, Ge and> > > Aq are involved in Narayana dasa. With Ge lagna, lord of Ge> > > is in 5th (Li). AL is in Aq and Ge is the 5th from AL (and> > > Li has the 5th lord from AL ).> >> > RATH: WE SHALL COME TO THIS AND YOU WILL ALSO AGREE THEN THAT THEDASA IS> > CORRECT. FIRST, LET US FIX THE NAVAMSA.> >> > > My main strength in life has been the ability to learn and> > > grasp things very quickly. D-24 lagna lord Mercury in 5th> > > fits well IMHO. If you change navamsa lagna, D-24 lagna> > > changes from Ge to Ta.> >> > RATH: AGAIN OUTSIDE THE NAVAMSA. I WILL NOT COMMENT ON THIS NOW.> >> > > D-20 lagna also changes if we change D-9 lagna to Ar. With> > > the current Ta lagna in D-20, Mercury is in 2nd in own> > > house and lagna lord Venus is debilitated in 5th, aspected> > > by Mercury. My family deity is Narayana (Mercury). My ishta> > > daiva are Sri Maha Lakshmi (debilitated planet: goddess and> > > Venus: Lakshmi) and Narayana.> >> > RATH: WHY NOT MERCURY IN THE FOURTH HOUSE IN D-20? ANYWAY WE SHALLCOME TO> > THIS LATER.> >> > > > How much does the time have to move for the Lagna to be (A)Aries> > > and> > > > (B) Gemini?> > >> > > To make it Ge, we need to add 7 min 25 sec. To make it Ar,> > > we need to subtract 6 min 22 sec.> > >> > RATH: OK. THEN SUBTRACT THE TIME AND GIVE A CHART FOR ARIES NAVAMSA.I> > THINK> > NARAYAN HAS GIVEN SOME TIMING.> >> >> > BLESSINGS OF SRI JAGANNATH> > Sanjay Rath> >> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" ahimsa@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixed> > karma.> > > Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about> > sex and> > > coming into many> > > relationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8thhouse> > > would not do so.Further> > > Magnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason Isaid to> > > many relationships, however> > > Sarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.> > > I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both> > Arudha and> > > Upapada, terrible for marriage..> > > Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsawhich is> > > problem. Either he had too many relationships> > > and remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsashould> > change> > > if there were not many relationships. .> > > This is based on a quick look at the chart..> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ ]On> > Behalf Of> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > 1. lipanj 2007 13:07> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> > >> > >> > > hraum namah adityaya> > >> > > Dear Zoranji,> > >> > > Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga> > say no> > > relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsashows> > > many relationship. ..which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa> > Yoga shows> > > delays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this> > strength the> > > other yogas? How You would resolve this?> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > amar napisal(a):> > >> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12thhouse> > > leave you unmarried.> > > Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement fromNavamsa> > > should also give the same,> > > unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th housein> > > Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.> > > I think your chart need rectification. Current navamsa Lagna showstoo> > > many relationships. ..> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ ]On> > > Behalf Of ND> > > 1. lipanj 2007 2:21> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoran> > >> > >> > > Dear Zoran,> > >> > > I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply toRahu> > > lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never been> > married.> > > [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N31]> > >> > > Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed inthis> > > thread.> > >> > > regards,> > > ND> > >> > > amar ahimsa@ wrote:> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa@ ]On> > > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > > 31. svibanj 2007 8:33> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> > >> > >> > > hare rama krsna> > >> > > Dear Zoran ,> > >> > > Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is very> > > planning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste> > (Jupiter). So SC> > > is rejected.> > >> > > Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > amar napisal(a):> > > Dear Rafal,> > > I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however I was> > > taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.> > > In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu Navamsa> > > Lagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I amnot> > > saying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,> > > however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.> > > Regards> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > > 30. svibanj 2007 9:01> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> > >> > >> > > hare rama krsna> > >> > > Dear Zoran,> > >> > > I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for some> > > clarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for this> > purpose and> > > these are correct.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > amar napisal(a):> > > Dear Rafal,> > > How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda nor> > > Pranapada are correct.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > > 29. svibanj 2007 19:11> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay> > >> > >> > > hare rama krsna> > >> > > Dear Anurag,> > >> > > Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. I> > > recall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightagethan> > > general lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I foundits> > > working.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisal(a):> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Namaskar.> > > I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,> > > Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from> > the AK> > > face difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course,> > if there> > > is confluence of more factors affecting one life area in theMarana> > Karaka> > > Sthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.> > > In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,> > > Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK.I> > lost my> > > father when I was an infant. Of course, there are several other> > features in> > > the chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.> > > Regards,> > > Anurag Sharma> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> > > > Dear Anurag,> > > >> > > > Very good points.> > > >> > > > I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve (or> > > at least 2) must> > > > be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H but that> > > for certain can be> > > > problem..but small.> > > >> > > > Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru in kona> > > gives chaste> > > > lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ive> > > found one good mail> > > > from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflicting Guru> > > so the ghosts> > > > take the chastity away..rather sad state of affairs.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > Namaskar.> > > > >> > > > > Another reason for problems in getting married could> > > be the fact that> > > > > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are in Marana> > > Karaka Sthana from> > > > > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea and the> > > people who arrive> > > > > to take on the role of spouse.> > > > >> > > > > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take it to be> > > just Guru alone> > > > > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as it> > > obtains in the Rashi?> > > > > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone in> > > Vrishchik and giving> > > > > great innate wisdom and width of philosophical> > > thought, purity etc OR> > > > > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > >> > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > > > > >> > > > > > *Ramadasji:*> > > > > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility of> > > Rasis? Pls elaborate.> > > > > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show bad> > > experience, no delay. Infact> > > > > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspect can> > > be good and often> > > > > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa gives> > > Kuja-bhanga) .> > > > > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:> > > Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > > > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > > > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Surya tell us> > > about strength of> > > > > > attachement.> > > > > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say about> > > marriage?> > > > > >> > > > > > *Anuragji:*> > > > > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and not bad> > > marriage?> > > > > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru in> > > Vrscika Lagna D9.> > > > > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing to do> > > with delay.> > > > > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, and when> > > Lord is there then its> > > > > > changed,> > > > > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > > > > >> > > > > > Still there are two (I see three more) things> > > which needs to be> > > > > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > >> > > > > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > The following points are important in causing> > > delay in marriage in> > > > > the> > > > > > > present chart :> > > > > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, another> > > fixed Rashi,its lord> > > > > Shani> > > > > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in a> > > chara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who is Vakra> > > ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani and> > > afflicted by the> > > > > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja as Shani> > > is involved in 7th> > > > > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7th house.> > > > > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted by the> > > nodes.> > > > > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is with Mandi.> > > > > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra is> > > within 42 Degs.20' and> > > > > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse. Rahu is> > > at a higher> > > > > longitude> > > > > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu is> > > coming near to Surya to> > > > > > > swallow him.> > > > > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7th lord> > > Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factor in> > > delaying the marriage.> > > > > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,Sarpa Shaapa,Stree> > > Shaapa and chanting of> > > > > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Krishna:> > > > > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > *Anurag:*> > > > > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, not> > > neccesarily delay.> > > > > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You missed one or two important point(s), please> > > see again.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > > > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> Namaskar.> > > > > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > > > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.> > > There may be a> > > > > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibit> > > conflicts of interest> > > > > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > > > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse of> > > Jupiter caused by Surya> > > > > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondary> > > Curse of Venus. The> > > > > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted by Mangal> > > and Shani.> > > > > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lord Rahu> > > showing that> > > > > > >> marriage and relationships shall be the focal> > > area of the> > > > > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and 8th> > > Lord are involved.> > > > > > >> It can be remedied.> > > > > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondary> > > Kalatra Shrapa in the> > > > > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the 7th> > > House, Shani is> > > > > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > > > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved in> > > Curses showing some> > > > > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupies the> > > 9th Bhava in> > > > > > >> Navamsha.> > > > > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th House from> > > the AL.> > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > > > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.> > > com> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@ ...>> > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person, who> > > was not married yet> > > > > > >> altough> > > > > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa of Naisargik> > > = delayed). There> > > > > > >> were some> > > > > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > > > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > > > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > > > > >> > *> > > > > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 serious doshas)> > > and waiting for Your> > > > > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which support> > > delay ?> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > > >> > email: rafal@> > > > > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > > > > --------- ------> > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem! 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Check all relationships,check ketu in 7th withShukra in 2nd if you refer toScorpio Lagna, that is a specific Yoga etc.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf OfRafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 13:26sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoranhraum namah adityayaDear Zoranji,Hm. Do we look at the same chart?Yes, planets in kendra shows fixed karma? So?#1 Here, Chandra is in 12H (if we take Scorpio).#2 Guru is not in the 8 (not in d1 nor d9), but in the first (d9).#3 Shukra is in the 2nd house, but Mangal doesnt aspect it.Still I dont know why You say D9 shows many relationship. MaybeYou are using different chart. Chandra is not in 7, Jupiter is not in 8,Mangaldoesnt infl 2H.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comamar napisal(a):Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,Planets in Kendra in Navamsa give overriding influence, very fixedkarma.Chandra in 7th in Navamsa shows .... ohh.. someone obsessed about sexand coming into manyrelationships. Only GUru can curb this tendency, which in the 8th housewould not do so.FurtherMagnal and Shukra with Rashi dristi on 2nd. THat is the reason I said tomany relationships, howeverSarpa Yoga need not delay marriage. Look at Guruji's chart.I was not discussing Rashi chart, since Shani and Ketu in Both Arudhaand Upapada, terrible for marriage..Rashi chart shows delays and problems no doubt. It is Navamsa which isproblem. Either he had too many relationshipsand remained bachelor *due to affliction in Rashi, or Navamsa shouldchange if there were not many relationships..This is based on a quick look at the chart..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of Rafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 13:07sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delay - Zoranhraum namah adityayaDear Zoranji,Sometimes in chart one yoga tells many relationship and other yoga sayno relationship, how to know which is most important? You say Navamsa showsmany relationship...which yoga? Instead, I was taught that Sarpa Yoga showsdelays in that.. Now 7 from Venus is Vakri Graha so has this strength theother yogas? How You would resolve this?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comamar napisal(a):Om Namah Shivaya,I was taught by Guruji that 7th lord from Rashi or Shukra in 12thhouse leave you unmarried.Since 7th in Navamsa controlls kama trikona, such placement fromNavamsa should also give the same,unless some factors contradict. I am saying 7th lord in 12th housein Navamsa. Rahu as lord of 7th in navamsa is not sufficient.I think your chart need rectification.Current navamsa Lagna showstoo many relationships...Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of ND1. lipanj 2007 2:21sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: Find Yogas for delay - ZoranDear Zoran,I was intrigued by your statement below. Does this also apply toRahu lording 7th house in Navamsha? I have this and I have never beenmarried. [My DOB, June 26, 1962: 2:45:20am, eldoret-Kenya or 35' E 17/0'N31]Although I do fulfill many of the other conditions discussed inthis thread.regards,NDamar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Rafal,Rahu is 7th lord in Rashi chart. Typical yoga for no marriage.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz31. svibanj 2007 8:33sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delayhare rama krsnaDear Zoran ,Yes, but the person lives in mind all time (Rahu), is veryplanning, innovert (Rahu). She also is very moral & chaste (Jupiter). So SCis rejected.Can You tell us why Rahu in 12 shows no marriage?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18amar napisal(a):Dear Rafal,I guess I know the reasons why you were taught so, however Iwas taught by Guruji to use it to the certain matching.In this case, it simply doesn't match. Also in Dhanu NavamsaLagna, Rahu in 12th house is straight yoga for no marriage. I am notsaying that Navamsa must change without prior checking up,however Dhanu navamsa also shows delayed marriage.RegardsZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz30. svibanj 2007 9:01sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delayhare rama krsnaDear Zoran,I dont follow these rules. I was taught to wait for someclarifications how to use them. We need only D1 and D9 for this purpose andthese are correct.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18amar napisal(a):Dear Rafal,How can you be sure of the birth time. Neither Kunda norPranapada are correct.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz29. svibanj 2007 19:11sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Find Yogas for delayhare rama krsnaDear Anurag,Yes..depends what is relative, or what can be seen. Irecall what I was taught personally (which has stronger weightage thangeneral lectures, if we think about the same lecture) and I found itsworking.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18Anurag Sharma napisal(a):|Om Shreenivasaya Namah|Dear Rafal,Namaskar.I recall reading (and listening?) that the Grahas,Bhavas, Arudhas and Chara Karakas in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AKface difficulties as the Soul itself has rejected them. Of course, if thereis confluence of more factors affecting one life area in the Marana KarakaSthana from the AK, the trouble could be more intense.In my chart (11th June, 1972; 10:17:55 AM; Cuttack,Orissa) the 9th House is in the Marana Karaka Sthana from the AK. I lost myfather when I was an infant. Of course, there are several other features inthe chart that confirm it but from the AK, this is the situation.Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. comsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hare rama krsna*>> Dear Anurag,>> Very good points.>> I was taught that for serious dosha, DK, 7L or Ve(or at least 2) must> be involved. Ive never heard about 7L and 7H butthat for certain can be> problem..but small.>> Very good point about affliction to Guru. Guru inkona gives chaste> lady, but afflicted gives problem to chastity, Ivefound one good mail> from Sanjay about it. It was Sani Ketu afflictingGuru so the ghosts> take the chastity away..rather sad state ofaffairs.>>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa. com> (+48) 503 44 18 18>> Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Namaskar.> >> > Another reason for problems in getting marriedcould be the fact that> > both the 7th House and 7th Lord Shani are inMarana Karaka Sthana from> > the Atmakaraka. The Soul disfavours the idea andthe people who arrive> > to take on the role of spouse.> >> > About Guru in Navamsha Lagna: shall we take itto be just Guru alone> > or a repetition of the Guru-Chandala Yoga as itobtains in the Rashi?> > Would this be akin to Guru being placed alone inVrishchik and giving> > great innate wisdom and width of philosophicalthought, purity etc OR> > would it give the effects of Guru-Chandala Yoga?> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot.com> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hare rama krsna*> > >> > > Dear Ramadas and Anurag:> > >> > > *Ramadasji:*> > > Point 1: What is that rule about mobility ofRasis? Pls elaborate.> > > Point 2: Malefic aspecting Venus show badexperience, no delay. Infact> > > Sani will not damage own house and Sani aspectcan be good and often> > > shows early marriage. (Ju and Sa givesKuja-bhanga) .> > > Point 5: Yes, that was the point I see strong:Sarpa dosha gives delay!> > > Point 6: 12L with Upagraha gives delay?> > > Point 7: Distance between Shukra and Suryatell us about strength of> > > attachement.> > > Point 8: What has Surya here to say aboutmarriage?> > >> > > *Anuragji:*> > > 1. You didnt tell why it shows delay and notbad marriage?> > > 2. She wasnt asociating with too many..Guru inVrscika Lagna D9.> > > 3. Regarding Moon and UL - it has nothing todo with delay.> > > 4. UL Lord in 8 from AL shows relation, andwhen Lord is there then its> > > changed,> > > even if its dushtana from AL.> > >> > > Still there are two (I see three more) thingswhich needs to be> > > mentioned (factor for delay).> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > www.rohinaa. com> > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > >> > > Ramadas Rao napisa?(a):> > > > OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH> > > > OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > The following points are important incausing delay in marriage in> > the> > > > present chart :> > > > 1) Lagna - Fixed Rashi,7th- Kumbha, anotherfixed Rashi,its lord> > Shani> > > > (V) in another fixed Rashi and Chandra in achara Rashi ( Tula ).> > > > 2) 7th is aspected by its own lord who isVakra ie., Shani and Vivaha> > > > Karaka Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani andafflicted by the> > > > association of another malefic Kuja.> > > > 3) Mutual aspect of Shani (V) with Kuja asShani is involved in 7th> > > > house ( Lord ).> > > > 4) Influence of Vakra Graha Shani on 7thhouse.> > > > 5) Navamsha Lagna and 7th are afflicted bythe nodes.> > > > 6) DK Chandra is 12th lord and is withMandi.> > > > 7) The distance between Surya and Shukra iswithin 42 Degs.20' and> > > > Shukra is aspected by Vakra Shani.> > > > 8) Surya is afflicted by Rahu's eclipse.Rahu is at a higher> > longitude> > > > and Surya is at lower longitude,so Rahu iscoming near to Surya to> > > > swallow him.> > > > So by looking into all these,7th house, 7thlord Shani,Vivaha Karaka> > > > Shukra,affliction of nodes are a main factorin delaying the marriage.> > > > Remedies for Grahana Dosha,SarpaShaapa,Stree Shaapa and chanting of> > > > Shri Rukmini Vallabha Mantra will help her.> > > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > > > Ramadas Rao.> > > >> > > > */Rafal Gendarz starsuponme@ .../* wrote:> > > >> > > > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> > > > Dear Krishna, Anurag,> > > >> > > > *Krishna:> > > > *Point 1: Navamsa is Scorpio.> > > > Point 2: Darakaraka.. yes..but also 12L!> > > > Point 3: Jupiter should be in Navamsa Lagna.> > > >> > > > *Anurag:*> > > > Point 1: That is not delay yoga.> > > > Point 2,3: Curse can show problems, notneccesarily delay.> > > > Point 5: But 8 from AL, has Lagnesh of AL.> > > >> > > > You missed one or two important point(s),please see again.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > www.rohinaa. com> > > > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma napisa³(a):> > > >> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > >> Namaskar.> > > >> Some thoughts on the chart:> > > >> 1. Arudha Lagna is opposed to the Upapada.There may be a> > > >> tendency for potential spouse to exhibitconflicts of interest> > > >> with the native at a manifest level.> > > >> 2. Though the Primary Shrapa is Curse ofJupiter caused by Surya> > > >> Yuti Guru-Chandala Yoga, there is secondaryCurse of Venus. The> > > >> Naisargika Karaka Shukra is afflicted byMangal and Shani.> > > >> 3.The Brahman Shrapa involves the 7th lordRahu showing that> > > >> marriage and relationships shall be thefocal area of the> > > >> suffering. This is severe as Lagnesh and8th Lord are involved.> > > >> It can be remedied.> > > >> 4.The UL lord is involved in a secondaryKalatra Shrapa in the> > > >> 2nd House from the UL. The co-lord of the7th House, Shani is> > > >> involved in the secondary curse.> > > >> 5. The 9th Lord and Karaka is involved inCurses showing some> > > >> elements of Durbhagya. Shani also occupiesthe 9th Bhava in> > > >> Navamsha.> > > >> 6.The UL Lord is placed in the 8th Housefrom the AL.> > > >> Regards,> > > >> Anurag Sharma> > > >> http://www.planetar ytransformation.blogspot. com> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> sohamsa@ .com, RafalGendarz <starsuponme@ ...>> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > *hare rama krsna*> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear Jyotisha,> > > >> >> > > >> > This is religious and spiritual person,who was not married yet> > > >> altough> > > >> > she is 35 (past Shukra Mahadasa ofNaisargik = delayed). There> > > >> were some> > > >> > tries but nothing materialized.> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > *December 28, 1972> > > >> > Time: 22:25:02> > > >> > Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)> > > >> > Place: 17 E 23' 00", 51 N 12' 00"> > > >> > *> > > >> > I have some clues (I found 5 seriousdoshas) and waiting for Your> > > >> > replies, what are the yogas which supportdelay ?> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards,> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > >> > email: rafal@> > > >> > www.rohinaa. com> > > >> > (+48) 503 44 18 18> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------> > --------- ------> > > > Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT> > > > <http://us.rd. / mail/in/ywebmessenger/*http:> > //in.messenger. / webmessengerpromo.php>> > > > from any browser, without download.> > > >> > >> >> >>-------------------------Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Goto Answers. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (44) 2a. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" sarbani (AT) (DOT) org sarbani3062002 Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:01 am (PST) Shri Brahmadaru SmaramiDear Anurag and Zoran,The most important fact I think is the defamation. Dinanath falsely claimed in a dubious website, that there was a FIR against Sanjay. So Sanjayji had to file cases against such claims, which included submitting all the defamatory mails written in Vedic-Astrology, Varahamihira and other lists along with that web site contains. The end result was that the police were hauled up in court by the judge! And the judge gave orders for 11 other cases where the police had done similar things. So Sanjayji's case enabled the clearance of 11 other such cases!! Then in the high court, the court enforced the submissions of the reports of the Finance Ministry which cleared his name from other allegations. At the end the judge admonished the other party very harshly forbidding them even to appeal against the order.Now that didn't stop our friends either! We have recently heard from someone, that these people are going around and telling people that it is they who have won the cases and painting quite the opposite picture. It is a very maligned and directed defamation. And he has very quietly fought against them and won the cases about a year and a half ago. I think no one even knows this.Best Regards,Sarbani Sarkar Rathhttp://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/> _____ sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of amarFriday, June 01, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathOm Namah Shivaya,Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.And Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded bysarpas. COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and two malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which givesbetrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing. Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someonewho is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5th lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his heart.Incidentally,the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strongGuru too idealistic..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of hmuttagi1. lipanj 2007 8:56sohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathDear Shri Sanjay Ji,Pranam:Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?sincere regardssohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath wrote:>> This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare Krishna> movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish with> me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to go> to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I asked> my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500 and> so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna with> Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal purpose in> addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges <http://jyotishdigest.com> t.com> Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no other> option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases âEUR"Writ Petition> No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin face me> in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of dirty> tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the SmugglerI> am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment. All> equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally imported.> He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his huge> excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this, forget> it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > --> Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2b. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:05 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Anuragji,Yes, I agree.I think You misunderstood my intentions which are purely 'scientific'. I only wanted to discuss what are the yogas which nullify this in my chart, as I dont identify myself with cheater.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comAnurag Sharma napisa?(a):>> |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|>> Dear Rafal,>> Namaskar.>> What I wrote is with reference to two Grahas in Sanjay Ji's chart and > Visti's lecture, I think about Tatkalika Relationships where he > mentions these /broad based /placements. If I recall correctly, he > also spoke about 5th House placements in similar light.>> If we were to go by what you are saying in this email then you would > dispute Sanjay Ji also. When he links 'hard hearted devilish fellow' > with Kumbha Lagna, is he condemning all Kumbha Lagnas to a hard heart > and devilishness? I do not really think so.>> Likewise when he cites Rahu in Mithun Lagna for the said person in his > email/ post, I don't think Sanjay Ji thinks the gentleman's Rahu is > akin to Guru in that case! Certainly not. I think it is Sanjay Ji's > way of describing the man's Rahu dominated nature /in that case. /Does > that mean your Rahu is similar or are you a similar person? I do not > think that is the necessary conclusion that must follow.>> To be absolutely honest, I am quite surprised to see that > interpretation on my email, because that is the last thing I could > have intended. Are there any /specific /references in my email or is > it a /generic /counter-examination of the traits of Guru and Rahu? It > is the latter, obviously.>> The annulment of /a /Sarpa Yoga in /a /chart are all /specifics /in > /that /horoscope and have nothing to do with my previous email.>> Then Sanjay Ji also mentions Rahu in Karka Lagna for the other person > he cites. Is everyone with that placement under suspicion and > scrutiny? Not in my book.>> In the alternative, if you just want my opinion on your chart in the > light of the specific placements in your chart, I would be delighted > to offer it at some point. The reason being that in the process I > would doubtlessly learn a few things from you.>> However, at the instant time, it is important to reiterate in a > /generic /sense, just as Sanjay Ji has done in his email/ post, that > Guru in Hamsa Mahapurusha Yoga (and this is in continuation of the > response to the gentleman/ lady who posed the query as to why Sanjay > Ji taught such a man in the first place...) in Lagna and Rahu in the > 4th House lead to such experiences. On numerous occasions, Sanjay Ji > in his Hindi lectures at SJC Attri has referred to this strong Rahu > trying to meddle with Sukha through shocks, lying and deceit.>> Best Regards,>> Anurag Sharma>> http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com > <http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>> sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Anuragji,> >> > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> >> > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa Yoga.> >> > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth > lord).> >> > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> >> > How You see those?> >> > *My chart: http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> >> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > >> > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In Sanjay> > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata Yoga.> > >> > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself has > the> > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there is a> > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > >> > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how will> > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if it> > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > >> > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after being> > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to > spot> > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin with.> > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have in> > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional > Christian> > > thought goes.> > >> > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate. In> > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this manner.> > >> > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it > will.> > > Nothing can really change that.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Anurag Sharma> > >> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" hmuttagi@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > >> > > > Pranam:> > > >> > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?> > > >> > > > sincere regards> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > Krishna> > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish> > > > with> > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He > was to> > > > go> > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I> > > > asked> > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave > $500> > > > and> > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife > wrote a> > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer > lagna> > > > with> > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha > in the> > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > purpose in> > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges t.com> > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> > > > other> > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the > court.By the> > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases > âEUR"Writ> > > > Petition> > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I > openly> > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> > > > face me> > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> > > > dirty> > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > SmugglerI> > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics > project by> > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> > > > All> > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > imported.> > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a > sädhu> > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily > fooled. The> > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> > > > huge> > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> > > > forget> > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 > 05:35:00 PM> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2c. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:26 am (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do that by the means of rightiousness.But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadipati yoga formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you. Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?Warm regards,Tijana sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Anuragji,> > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa Yoga.> > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth lord).> > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > How You see those?> > *My chart: http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In Sanjay > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata Yoga.> >> > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself has the > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there is a > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> >> > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how will > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if it > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> >> > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after being > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to spot > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin with. > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have in > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional Christian > > thought goes.> >> > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate. In > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this manner.> >> > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it will. > > Nothing can really change that.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > >> > > Pranam:> > >> > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?> > >> > > sincere regards> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > Krishna> > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish> > > with> > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to> > > go> > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I> > > asked> > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500> > > and> > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna> > > with> > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > purpose in> > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges t.com> > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> > > other> > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases âEUR"Writ> > > Petition> > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> > > face me> > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> > > dirty> > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > SmugglerI> > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> > > All> > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > imported.> > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> > > huge> > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> > > forget> > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2d. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:47 am (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Just a few thoughts here that maybe can help us.Being the last nakshatra it relates to the final end-emancipation-the highest ideal. The exaltation of the Shukra-highest ideals (related to people)-falls in the fourth (moksha) pada of the Revati. The presiding deity is Poosha, Sun God-noone can measure His generosity.Revati is the wife of the Lord Balarama. She ascendend to skies with her father looking for the suitable husband as she could not find any on the earth. 27! eons have passed until she got the Bramha`s mercy to merry Balaram.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Zoranji,> > Why Revati gives idealism? Symbol? Devata? Lord?> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > amar napisa?(a):> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic > > and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,> > which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.And > > Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded by> > sarpas.> > COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and two > > malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which gives> > betrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing. > > Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someone> > who is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5th > > lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his > > heart.Incidentally,> > the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)> > I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa > > Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. > > Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and > > strong> > Guru too idealistic..> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > > > ** sohamsa > > [sohamsa ]*On Behalf Of *hmuttagi> > *Sent:* 1. lipanj 2007 8:56> > *To:* sohamsa > > *Subject:* Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath> >> > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> >> > Pranam:> >> > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?> >> > sincere regards> >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>,> > "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@>> > wrote:> > >> > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > Krishna> > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish> > with> > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to> > go> > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I> > asked> > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500> > and> > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna> > with> > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > purpose in> > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdigest.com <http://jyotishdigest.com>> > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> > other> > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > âEUR"Writ> > Petition> > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> > face me> > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> > dirty> > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > SmugglerI> > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> > All> > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > imported.> > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> > huge> > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> > forget> > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > >> > > --> > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2e. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 9:02 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Tijana,Thank You.Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisa?(a):>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Rafal,> Just a few thoughts here that maybe can help us.> Being the last nakshatra it relates to the final end-emancipation- the> highest ideal. The exaltation of the Shukra-highest ideals (related> to people)-falls in the fourth (moksha) pada of the Revati. The> presiding deity is Poosha, Sun God-noone can measure His generosity.> Revati is the wife of the Lord Balarama. She ascendend to skies with> her father looking for the suitable husband as she could not find any> on the earth. 27! eons have passed until she got the Bramha`s mercy> to merry Balaram.> Warm regards,> Tijana>> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Zoranji,> >> > Why Revati gives idealism? Symbol? Devata? Lord?> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> >> > amar napisa?(a):> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too> idealistic> > > and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,> > > which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic> nature.And> > > Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded by> > > sarpas.> > > COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and> two> > > malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which gives> > > betrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back> stabbing.> > > Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someone> > > who is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of> the 5th> > > lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his> > > heart.Incidentally,> > > the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)> > > I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa> > > Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and> charished.> > > Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment,> and> > > strong> > > Guru too idealistic..> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > >> > > > > > ** sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > [sohamsa@ .com > <sohamsa%40>]*On Behalf Of *hmuttagi> > > *Sent:* 1. lipanj 2007 8:56> > > *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath> > >> > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > >> > > Pranam:> > >> > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> cheated?> > >> > > sincere regards> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40> > <sohamsa%> 40. com>,> > > "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@ >> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> Hare> > > Krishna> > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> jyotish> > > with> > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> He was to> > > go> > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there> and I> > > asked> > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> gave $500> > > and> > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> into a> > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> wife wrote a> > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> (Cancer lagna> > > with> > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of> SJVC.> > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> Narasimha in the> > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > purpose in> > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > > http://jyotishdiges t.com <http://jyotishdigest.com> > <http://jyotishdiges t.com <http://jyotishdigest.com>>> > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> the hard> > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> had no> > > other> > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> court.By the> > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > âEUR"Writ> > > Petition> > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> 2004> > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and> I openly> > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> agin> > > face me> > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> bag of> > > dirty> > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > SmugglerI> > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> fight> > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> clandestinely> > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> project by> > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> the> > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> equipment.> > > All> > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > imported.> > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of> a sädhu> > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> fooled. The> > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> checking his> > > huge> > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> this,> > > forget> > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> 05:35:00 PM> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2f. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 9:14 am (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Tijana,Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals? Nodes in kendra gives spirituality..Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisa?(a):>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Rafal,> Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining> and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do> that by the means of rightiousness.> But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to> fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yoga> formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not> turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.> Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and> father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> Warm regards,> Tijana>> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Anuragji,> >> > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> >> > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa> Yoga.> >> > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth> lord).> >> > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> >> > How You see those?> >> > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> >> > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > >> > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > >> > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> Sanjay> > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> Yoga.> > >> > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> has the> > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there> is a> > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > >> > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how> will> > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if> it> > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > >> > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> being> > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to> spot> > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin> with.> > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have> in> > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> Christian> > > thought goes.> > >> > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.> In> > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> manner.> > >> > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it> will.> > > Nothing can really change that.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Anurag Sharma> > >> > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > >> > > > Pranam:> > > >> > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> cheated?> > > >> > > > sincere regards> > > >> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > Krishna> > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> jyotish> > > > with> > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He> was to> > > > go> > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there> and I> > > > asked> > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> gave $500> > > > and> > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> into a> > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife> wrote a> > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer> lagna> > > > with> > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of> SJVC.> > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha> in the> > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > purpose in> > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges> t.com> > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the> hard> > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> had no> > > > other> > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> court.By the> > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> âEUR"Writ> > > > Petition> > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> 2004> > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I> openly> > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> agin> > > > face me> > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag> of> > > > dirty> > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > SmugglerI> > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> fight> > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> clandestinely> > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> project by> > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> the> > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> equipment.> > > > All> > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > imported.> > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a> sädhu> > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> fooled. The> > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking> his> > > > huge> > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> this,> > > > forget> > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > >> > > > > --> > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> 05:35:00 PM> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2g. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 12:04 pm (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to spirituality-its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is needed here. I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating personality, inovative and different approaches…but he is still someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I forgot something important that modifies what I said.Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals? > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality..> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining> > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do> > that by the means of rightiousness.> > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to> > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yoga> > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not> > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.> > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and> > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Anuragji,> > >> > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > >> > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa> > Yoga.> > >> > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth> > lord).> > >> > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > >> > > How You see those?> > >> > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > Sanjay> > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > Yoga.> > > >> > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > has the> > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there> > is a> > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > >> > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how> > will> > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if> > it> > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > >> > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > being> > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to> > spot> > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin> > with.> > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have> > in> > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > Christian> > > > thought goes.> > > >> > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.> > In> > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > manner.> > > >> > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it> > will.> > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Pranam:> > > > >> > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > cheated?> > > > >> > > > > sincere regards> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > > Krishna> > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > jyotish> > > > > with> > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He> > was to> > > > > go> > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there> > and I> > > > > asked> > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > gave $500> > > > > and> > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> > into a> > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife> > wrote a> > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer> > lagna> > > > > with> > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and of> > SJVC.> > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha> > in the> > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > > purpose in> > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges> > t.com> > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the> > hard> > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > had no> > > > > other> > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > court.By the> > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > âEUR"Writ> > > > > Petition> > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> > 2004> > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I> > openly> > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > agin> > > > > face me> > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag> > of> > > > > dirty> > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > fight> > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > clandestinely> > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > project by> > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> > the> > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > equipment.> > > > > All> > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > > imported.> > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a> > sädhu> > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > fooled. The> > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking> > his> > > > > huge> > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > this,> > > > > forget> > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2h. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 12:11 pm (PST) *hraum namah adityaya*Dear Tijana,Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I have also few devotees with that).Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com*Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisa?(a):>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Rafal,> I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL> which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in> general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every> malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in> the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-> Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who> is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in> a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is> needed here.> I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good> things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating> personality, inovative and different approaches...but he is still> someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible> to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I> forgot something important that modifies what I said.> Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in> your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> Warm regards,> Tijana>> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*> >> > Dear Tijana,> >> > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high> ideals?> > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> >> >> > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > email: rafal > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> >> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Rafal,> > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards> gaining> > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> certainly do> > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> capability to> > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati> yoga> > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have> not> > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for> you.> > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma> and> > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> 40. com>,> > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > >> > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > >> > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > > >> > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> Sarpa> > > Yoga.> > > >> > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini> (ninth> > > lord).> > > >> > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > >> > > > How You see those?> > > >> > > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>>> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > >> > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > > Sanjay> > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > > has the> > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th,> there> > > is a> > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > >> > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu> loves to> > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset,> how> > > will> > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much,> and if> > > it> > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > >> > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > > being> > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of> how to> > > spot> > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to> begin> > > with.> > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will> have> > > in> > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > > Christian> > > > > thought goes.> > > > >> > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might> indicate.> > > In> > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > > manner.> > > > >> > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And> it> > > will.> > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > >> > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > >> > > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior> to> > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > > cheated?> > > > > >> > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> sanjayrath@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> Hare> > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > > jyotish> > > > > > with> > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> He> > > was to> > > > > > go> > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out> there> > > and I> > > > > > asked> > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > > gave $500> > > > > > and> > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow> got> > > into a> > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> wife> > > wrote a> > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> (Cancer> > > lagna> > > > > > with> > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and > of> > > SJVC.> > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> Narasimha> > > in the> > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his> personal> > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> http://jyotishdiges> > > t.com> > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> the> > > hard> > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > > had no> > > > > > other> > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > > court.By the> > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501> of> > > 2004> > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005> and I> > > openly> > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > > agin> > > > > > face me> > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> bag> > > of> > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic> the> > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > > fight> > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > > clandestinely> > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > > project by> > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well> as> > > the> > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > > equipment.> > > > > > All> > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are> illegally> > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes> of a> > > sädhu> > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > > fooled. The> > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> checking> > > his> > > > > > huge> > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > > this,> > > > > > forget> > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >>> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2i. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Anurag Sharma" anuraagsharma27 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com anuraagsharma27 Fri Jun 1, 2007 1:46 pm (PST) |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|Dear Sarbani Ji,Yes, the dubious website continues to host these things and this isimproper. As a Counsel I find no difficulty in examining what has beenreferred to, and what is now a part of public record. The impropriety iswrit large in view of the Final Judgment and Order passed by the Hon'bleHigh Court of Delhi in WP (Cr.) 1512 of 2004. This was a batch matter(and you have pointed out several matters were disposed off together:this is the reason. Many matters were clubbed together.) The Cause Titleof the Main Petition is Sunil Kumar & Ors. Vs. Delhi S.C. Financial andDev. Corporation. The name of the Petitioner in the specifically citedcase is Mahesh Kumar Rahi.The other Petition cited, namely, WP (Cr.) 1501 of 2004 was decidedalong with the other matters by virtue of a common Order dated July 27,2005. The Final Judgment and Order dated 27.7.2005 issued by R.C.Chopra, J. in the above cited matters is reproduced below for the readyreference of all concerned:IN THE HIGH COURT OF DELHI AT NEW DELHI27.07.2005Present : Mr.Jitender Kumar Singh for the petitioners.Ms.Mukta Gupta for the State.Mr.Nachiket Joshi with Mr.Anil Shrivastava for respondent No.4WP (Crl) No 1512/2004Status Report seen.After perusing the averments made in the petitioner, Status Report andhearing learned counsel for the parties, this Court finds that theallegations being made by the petitioner against one U.K.Rath and othersare in regard to cheating. According to Poice, the disputes between them are of civil nature. Considering thenature of the allegations, this Court is of the considered view thatthere are no good grounds for issuance of direction to register FIR asprayed. The petitioner, however, may file acomplaint under Section 200 Cr.PC., if so advised.The petition stands disposed of.July 27, 2005 R.C.CHOPRA, J.rkIt is thus clear that no case of cheating etc was made out and theHon'ble Court refused to direct that an FIR be registered. Thus, itshould be clear to all concerned that it is not 'they' who have 'won'but it is Shri U.K. Rath & Ors, who have been exonerated of theallegations that may have been advanced.There is no particular mystery about S.200 of the Cr.P.C, reference towhich has been made in the Order of the Hon'ble Court. The same is alsoreproduced below:"200. Examination of complainant.A Magistrate taking cognizance of an offence on complaint shall examineupon oath the complainant and the witnesses present, if any, and thesubstance of such examination shall be reduced to writing and shall besigned by the complainant and the witnesses, and also by the Magistrate:Provided that, when the complaint is made in writing, the Magistrateneed not examine the complainant and the witnesses-(a) If a public servant acting or purporting to act in the discharge ofhis official duties or a court has made the complaint; or(b) If the Magistrate makes over the case for inquiry, or trial toanother Magistrate under section 192:Provided further that if the Magistrate makes over the case to anotherMagistrate under section 192 after examining the complainant and thewitnesses, the latter Magistrate need not re-examine them."It is just a procedural provision.In view of this, it is foolhardy for them to continue to try and indulgein such libel, apart from the Karmic implications that might ensue.Best Regards,Anurag Sharmahttp://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com'>http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com<http://www.planetarytransformation.blogspot.com>--- In sohamsa , "Sarbani Sarkar Rath" <sarbaniwrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami>> Dear Anurag and Zoran,>> The most important fact I think is the defamation. Dinanath falselyclaimed in a dubious website, that there was a FIR against Sanjay. SoSanjayji had to file cases against such claims, which includedsubmitting all the defamatory mails written in Vedic-Astrology,Varahamihira and other lists along with that web site contains. The endresult was that the police were hauled up in court by the judge! And thejudge gave orders for 11 other cases where the police had done similarthings. So Sanjayji's case enabled the clearance of 11 other suchcases!! Then in the high court, the court enforced the submissions ofthe reports of the Finance Ministry which cleared his name from otherallegations. At the end the judge admonished the other party veryharshly forbidding them even to appeal against the order.>> Now that didn't stop our friends either! We have recently heard fromsomeone, that these people are going around and telling people that itis they who have won the cases and painting quite the opposite picture.It is a very maligned and directed defamation. And he has very quietlyfought against them and won the cases about a year and a half ago. Ithink no one even knows this.>> Best Regards,>> Sarbani Sarkar Rath> http://sarbani.com <http://sarbani.com/>>>>>> _____>> sohamsa [sohamsa ] OnBehalf Of amar> Friday, June 01, 2007 4:47 PM> sohamsa > RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath>>>>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealisticand has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,> which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.AndSarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded by> sarpas.> COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and twomalefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which gives> betrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing.Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someone> who is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5thlord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to hisheart.Incidentally,> the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)> I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogasand have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Againplanet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strong> Guru too idealistic..> Best wishes> Zoran>> > sohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of hmuttagi> 1. lipanj 2007 8:56> sohamsa > Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath>>>> Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,>> Pranam:>> Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?>> sincere regards>> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com,"Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> wrote:> >> > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> Krishna> > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learnjyotish> with> > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to> go> > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out thereand I> asked> > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500> and> > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancerlagna> with> > Rähu) completely captured the websites and ofSJVC.> > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for hispersonal> purpose in> > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges<http://jyotishdigest.com> t.com> > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no> other> > option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all thecases â€"Writ> Petition> > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin> face me> > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of> dirty> > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> SmugglerI> > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.> All> > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> imported.> > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of asädhu> > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his> huge> > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,> forget> > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> >> > --> > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2j. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "nix_nixen" nix_nixen nix_nixen Fri Jun 1, 2007 4:10 pm (PST) Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Yes, kendras are ruled by the Moon based on the four tides and are responsible for creation and growth. Nodes oppose society-Moon, but in different ways making it a kind of a victim of their influence as the Rahu pulls it upward and Ketu downward. Here again the different nature of two nodes is very obvious. Society also don`t think friendly of them from different reasons-Ketu is not liked because of his ascetism that rejects world and Rahu because of his diabolic affairs and shocks he causes.The placement of malefics in kendra is pretty broad subject. Exalted malefics (Ma, Sa) in kendra produce Mahapurusha yoga and should be studied separately. Exalted retograde ones give different effects from the exalted in direct motion as they produce Pravraja. Still, i don`t think that malefics presence in kendra is indicative for spirituality by itself unless involved in some yoga (Mahapurusha or other), special status as yoga karaka or a very specific position regarding AL.In the case of Maharishi`s chart, Mars in lagna forms Ruchaka Mahapurusha yoga, is the lord of the 4th and conjoins 9th lord, and in Pt. Sanjayji`s chart Rahu is posited in the 7th from AL.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct > astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers > and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. > Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and > approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while > the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong > malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I > have also few devotees with that).> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> > spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL> > which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in> > general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every> > malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in> > the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-> > Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who> > is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in> > a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is> > needed here.> > I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good> > things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating> > personality, inovative and different approaches...but he is still> > someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible> > to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I> > forgot something important that modifies what I said.> > Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in> > your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > >> > > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high> > ideals?> > > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards> > gaining> > > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> > certainly do> > > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> > capability to> > > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati> > yoga> > > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have> > not> > > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for> > you.> > > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma> > and> > > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> > Sarpa> > > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini> > (ninth> > > > lord).> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > How You see those?> > > > >> > > > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > > > Sanjay> > > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > > > Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > > > has the> > > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th,> > there> > > > is a> > > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu> > loves to> > > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset,> > how> > > > will> > > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much,> > and if> > > > it> > > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > > > being> > > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of> > how to> > > > spot> > > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to> > begin> > > > with.> > > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will> > have> > > > in> > > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > > > Christian> > > > > > thought goes.> > > > > >> > > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might> > indicate.> > > > In> > > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > > > manner.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And> > it> > > > will.> > > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior> > to> > > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > > > cheated?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> > sanjayrath@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> > Hare> > > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > > > jyotish> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> > He> > > > was to> > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out> > there> > > > and I> > > > > > > asked> > > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > > > gave $500> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow> > got> > > > into a> > > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> > wife> > > > wrote a> > > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> > (Cancer> > > > lagna> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and > > of> > > > SJVC.> > > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> > Narasimha> > > > in the> > > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his> > personal> > > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdiges> > > > t.com> > > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> > the> > > > hard> > > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > > > had no> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > > > court.By the> > > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501> > of> > > > 2004> > > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005> > and I> > > > openly> > > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > > > agin> > > > > > > face me> > > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> > bag> > > > of> > > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic> > the> > > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > > > fight> > > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > > > clandestinely> > > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > > > project by> > > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well> > as> > > > the> > > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > > > equipment.> > > > > > > All> > > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are> > illegally> > > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes> > of a> > > > sädhu> > > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > > > fooled. The> > > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> > checking> > > > his> > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > > > this,> > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2k. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "vedicastrostudent" vedicastrostudent vedicastrostudent Fri Jun 1, 2007 5:01 pm (PST) Dear Rafalji and Tijanaji,I have heard a lot of things about Rahu. I constantly have a hard time understanding them since they do not seem to apply to me, even though the conditions are satisfied.. I have Rahu in the 3rd in AL in Aries (Rahu ruled Aquarius ascendant, with Rahu's rasi-dristi). Rahu is MK, has graha dristi only from Mars in the 8th. No planets have rasi dristi on it. No planets in kendras.How would you classify my Rahu antaradasa in Venus dasa (Venus is AK in 6th in Gandanta, but I have a lot of CK replacements in my chart).One practicing astrologer (has lots of experience, has been a professor of astrology, has big gemstone business, his own chart is packed with planets in the 5th house) in India was convinced I had a relationship with a foreign woman during that time, outside of marriage.What is your opinion and why? Birthdate: June 29, 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46, 22N12, GMT+5:30, rectified.Thanks,Sundeepsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct > astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers > and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. > Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and > approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while > the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong > malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I > have also few devotees with that).> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> > spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL> > which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in> > general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every> > malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in> > the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-> > Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who> > is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in> > a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is> > needed here.> > I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good> > things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating> > personality, inovative and different approaches...but he is still> > someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible> > to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I> > forgot something important that modifies what I said.> > Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in> > your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > >> > > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high> > ideals?> > > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards> > gaining> > > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> > certainly do> > > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> > capability to> > > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati> > yoga> > > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have> > not> > > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for> > you.> > > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma> > and> > > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > --- In sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> > Sarpa> > > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini> > (ninth> > > > lord).> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > How You see those?> > > > >> > > > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*>>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > > > Sanjay> > > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > > > Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > > > has the> > > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th,> > there> > > > is a> > > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu> > loves to> > > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset,> > how> > > > will> > > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much,> > and if> > > > it> > > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > > > being> > > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of> > how to> > > > spot> > > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to> > begin> > > > with.> > > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will> > have> > > > in> > > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > > > Christian> > > > > > thought goes.> > > > > >> > > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might> > indicate.> > > > In> > > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > > > manner.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And> > it> > > > will.> > > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior> > to> > > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > > > cheated?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> > sanjayrath@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the> > Hare> > > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn> > > > jyotish> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years.> > He> > > > was to> > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out> > there> > > > and I> > > > > > > asked> > > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > > > gave $500> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow> > got> > > > into a> > > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his> > wife> > > > wrote a> > > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju> > (Cancer> > > > lagna> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and > > of> > > > SJVC.> > > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri,> > Narasimha> > > > in the> > > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his> > personal> > > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdiges> > > > t.com> > > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing,> > the> > > > hard> > > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > > > had no> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > > > court.By the> > > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases> > > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501> > of> > > > 2004> > > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005> > and I> > > > openly> > > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > > > agin> > > > > > > face me> > > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their> > bag> > > > of> > > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic> > the> > > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > > > fight> > > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > > > clandestinely> > > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > > > project by> > > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well> > as> > > > the> > > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > > > equipment.> > > > > > > All> > > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are> > illegally> > > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes> > of a> > > > sädhu> > > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > > > fooled. The> > > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of> > checking> > > > his> > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > > > this,> > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2l. Odp: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "Rafal G" starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl jyotraff Fri Jun 1, 2007 7:01 pm (PST) hraum namah adityayaDear Tijana,Me and Guruji are very strict with the teachings of parampara.There are more combinations required for the spirituality ofcourse. Nodes exalted shows some very unique and idealistic, ifthere is spiritual spark coming from Satva then this mix givesinspiration to follow Upward path. Sanjayji told me that exaltedgrahas are like Narayana..and it was in the context of my Rahu inLagna.RegardsRafal GendarzDnia 2-06-2007 o godz. 1:07 nix_nixen napisa³(a):Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane.Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Yes, kendras are ruled by the Moon based on the four tides andareresponsible for creation and growth. Nodes oppose society-Moon,butin different ways making it a kind of a victim of their influenceasthe Rahu pulls it upward and Ketu downward. Here again thedifferentnature of two nodes is very obvious. Society also don`t thinkfriendly of them from different reasons-Ketu is not liked becauseofhis ascetism that rejects world and Rahu because of his diabolicaffairs and shocks he causes.The placement of malefics in kendra is pretty broad subject.Exalted malefics (Ma, Sa) in kendra produce Mahapurusha yoga andshould be studied separately. Exalted retograde ones givedifferenteffects from the exalted in direct motion as they producePravraja.Still, i don`t think that malefics presence in kendra isindicativefor spirituality by itself unless involved in some yoga(Mahapurushaor other), special status as yoga karaka or a very specificpositionregarding AL.In the case of Maharishi`s chart, Mars in lagna forms RuchakaMahapurusha yoga, is the lord of the 4th and conjoins 9th lord,andin Pt. Sanjayji`s chart Rahu is posited in the 7th from AL.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*>> Dear Tijana,>> Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong theyconstruct> astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they cangiverapers> and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to takeothersmoney.> Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and> approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career,while> the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagnais).Strong> malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, SanjayRath, I> have also few devotees with that).>>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa.com>> nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to> > spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7thfrom AL> > which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad forspiritualityin> > general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (asevery> > malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall ofRahuin> > the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposesMercury-> > Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a personwho> > is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association ofpersons in> > a high position. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahuis> > needed here.> > I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not givesomegood> > things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence,penetrating> > personality, inovative and different approaches...but he isstill> > someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is neveradvisible> > to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Couldbe I> > forgot something important that modifies what I said.> > Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagnalord,in> > your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > --- In sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>,> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > >> > > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it nothigh> > ideals?> > > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a persontowards> > gaining> > > > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exaltedand> > > > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not> > certainly do> > > > that by the means of rightiousness.> > > > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the> > capability to> > > > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatifulspiritual> > > > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadipati> > yoga> > > > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa broughtyoumuch> > > > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas untilyouhave> > not> > > > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks theSarpafor> > you.> > > > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems relatedtodharma> > and> > > > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Anuragji,> > > > >> > > > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I amcheater?> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in> > Sarpa> > > > Yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter forGemini> > (ninth> > > > lord).> > > > >> > > > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > > > >> > > > > How You see those?> > > > >> > > > > *My chart: http://docs. <http://docs.> rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> > > > <http://docs. <http://docs.> rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*> > <http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*<http://docs.rohinaa.com/chart.pdf*> >>> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > > > >> > > > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4thHouse. In> > > > Sanjay> > > > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. ThisisKapata> > > > Yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, thenativehimself> > > > has the> > > > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and4th,> > there> > > > is a> > > > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, thepersonmay be> > > > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th.Rahu> > loves to> > > > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at theoutset,> > how> > > > will> > > > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves somuch,> > and if> > > > it> > > > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > > > >> > > > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later,maybeafter> > > > being> > > > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have someawareness of> > how to> > > > spot> > > > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest init to> > begin> > > > with.> > > > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahuwill> > have> > > > in> > > > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar astraditional> > > > Christian> > > > > > thought goes.> > > > > >> > > > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahumight> > indicate.> > > > In> > > > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evilinthis> > > > manner.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its owncourse.And> > it> > > > will.> > > > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Anurag Sharma> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.planetar <http://www.planetar> ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi"<hmuttagi@>wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Pranam:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Could you not make out his character(astrologically)prior> > to> > > > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) causeforbeing> > > > cheated?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sincere regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath"> > sanjayrath@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director withISKCON,the> > Hare> > > > > > > Krishna> > > > > > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellowcame tolearn> > > > jyotish> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost forfouryears.> > He> > > > was to> > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha VedicCenter out> > there> > > > and I> > > > > > > asked> > > > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500,Narasimha> > > > gave $500> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but thisfellow> > got> > > > into a> > > > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supportedRobert,his> > wife> > > > wrote a> > > > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along withVijayDeep> > > > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) andV.S.Raju> > (Cancer> > > > lagna> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and> > of> > > > SJVC.> > > > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from SatSiri,> > Narasimha> > > > in the> > > > > > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used itfor his> > personal> > > > > > > purpose in> > > > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website> > http://jyotishdiges <http://jyotishdiges>> > > > t.com> > > > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such anevilthing,> > the> > > > hard> > > > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in histirade.I> > > > had no> > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought themin the> > > > court.By the> > > > > > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I havewon all thecases> > > > âEUR"Writ> > > > > > > Petition> > > > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ PetitionNo.1501> > of> > > > 2004> > > > > > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered onJuly2005> > and I> > > > openly> > > > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for anappealor to> > > > agin> > > > > > > face me> > > > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law andnottheir> > bag> > > > of> > > > > > > dirty> > > > > > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath,DejanKocic> > the> > > > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws inIndia to> > > > fight> > > > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler andhas> > > > clandestinely> > > > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment foranimatronics> > > > project by> > > > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhiaswell> > as> > > > the> > > > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the dutyforthe> > > > equipment.> > > > > > > All> > > > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projectsare> > illegally> > > > > > > imported.> > > > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear thesaffronrobes> > of a> > > > sädhu> > > > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can beeasily> > > > fooled. The> > > > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him insteadof> > checking> > > > his> > > > > > > huge> > > > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get awaywith all> > > > this,> > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at5/31/2007> > > > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>-------------------Top Trendy. Najwa¿niejsze muzyczne wydarzenie roku!POLSAT 8-11 czerwca 2007 r. godz. 20:00http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.toptrendy.wp.pl=1170<http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=www.toptrendy.wp.pl & sid=1170> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2m. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "rashmi patel" rashmihpatel rashmihpatel Sat Jun 2, 2007 12:14 am (PST) Namaste Tijana & rafal,Talking on nodes & spirituality please tell me on my kundali & what is your opinion i have ketu in lagna & rahu in 7th house,nowi can tell you that i really do belive in god & also recently built ganeshas temple opened in 29/dec/06 my kundali is as ARIES LAGNA in aries=sun,mercury,ketu, tauras=venus, gemini=mars,leo=jupiter,libra=moon,rahu, scorpio=saturndob=12/may/57, tob=04;25 am, place=aden [yemen]thankspatelRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>sohamsa Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 3:10:48 PMRe: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanathhraum namah adityayaDear Tijana,Nodes shows opposition to society. When they are strong they construct astrologers, spiritualists etc. When they are weak they can give rapers and criminals, for sure - person who dont hesitate to take others money. Kendra are mind concept so every graha contribute to ideals and approaches to various spheres of life like relationship & career, while the Lagnesh is most important and controling one (like Lagna is). Strong malefics in Kendra give spiritualist (I think Maharishi, Sanjay Rath, I have also few devotees with that). Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. comnix_nixen napisa©È(a): Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,I know for two good kendra position of Rahu when it comes to spirituality- its placement in the 10th from lagna and 7th from AL which is a separate issue. Rahu in lagna is bad for spirituality in general (if Rahu is not BK or AK). But debilitated Rahu (as every malefic) in kendra will produce Rajyoga. Debility or fall of Rahu in the highest sence is Krishna consciousness as Rahu opposes Mercury-Vishnu (in Kalachakra). This Rajyoga gives spirituality, a person who is a favourite of Krishna and who will have association of persons in a high position.. So, I think that for spirituality weak Rahu is needed here. I don`t think that Rahu (especially exalted) can not give some good things. It will give keen-eye, sharp intelligence, penetrating personality, inovative and different approaches¡Äbut he is still someone who always opposes Brihaspati and thus it is never advisible to let him take control. What concept you had in mind? Could be I forgot something important that modifies what I said.Also i think that high ideals comes from the exalted lagna lord, in your case Mercury, not the exalted Rahu in lagna?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Tijana,> > Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals? > Nodes in kendra gives spirituality. .> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www..rohinaa. com> > nix_nixen napisa?(a):> >> > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Rafal,> > Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gaining> > and money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted and> > mooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly do> > that by the means of rightiousness.> > But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability to> > fight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritual> > yogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yoga> > formed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you much> > troubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have not> > turned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.> > Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma and> > father (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?> > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Anuragji,> > >> > > What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?> > >> > > Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in Sarpa> > Yoga.> > >> > > Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninth> > lord).> > >> > > Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.> > >> > > How You see those?> > >> > > *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf* > > <http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*>> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > > Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> > > >> > > > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. In> > Sanjay> > > > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is Kapata> > Yoga.> > > >> > > > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himself> > has the> > > > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, there> > is a> > > > cheating tug-of-war going on.> > > >> > > > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > > > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > > > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, how> > will> > > > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and if> > it> > > > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> > > >> > > > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe after> > being> > > > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how to> > spot> > > > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to begin> > with.> > > > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will have> > in> > > > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditional> > Christian> > > > thought goes.> > > >> > > > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.> > In> > > > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in this> > manner.> > > >> > > > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And it> > will.> > > > Nothing can really change that.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > Anurag Sharma> > > >> > > > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Pranam:> > > > >> > > > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being> > cheated?> > > > >> > > > > sincere regards> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > > > Krishna> > > > > > movement started by Prabhupªª¢ðda. This fellow came to learn> > jyotish> > > > > with> > > > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He> > was to> > > > > go> > > > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannªª¢ðtha Vedic Center out there> > and I> > > > > asked> > > > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha> > gave $500> > > > > and> > > > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got> > into a> > > > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife> > wrote a> > > > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rªª¢ðhu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer> > lagna> > > > > with> > > > > > Rªª¢ðhu) completely captured the websites and of> > SJVC.> > > > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha> > in the> > > > > > name of Jagannªª¢ðtha Mahªª¢ðprabhu and used it for his personal> > > > > purpose in> > > > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdiges> > t.com> > > > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the> > hard> > > > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I> > had no> > > > > other> > > > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in the> > court.By the> > > > > > grace of Jagannªª¢ðtha Mahªª¢ðprabhu, I have won all the cases> > «¤EUR"Writ> > > > > Petition> > > > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of> > 2004> > > > > > against V..S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I> > openly> > > > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to> > agin> > > > > face me> > > > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag> > of> > > > > dirty> > > > > > tricks, by Jagannªª¢ðtha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > > > SmugglerI> > > > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to> > fight> > > > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has> > clandestinely> > > > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics> > project by> > > > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as> > the> > > > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the> > equipment.> > > > > All> > > > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > > > imported.> > > > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a> > sªª¢ðdhu> > > > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily> > fooled. The> > > > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking> > his> > > > > huge> > > > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all> > this,> > > > > forget> > > > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007> > 05:35:00 PM> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>________Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase.http://farechase./ Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2n. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "amar" ahimsa.yu ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:35 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,1. Place of exalted Shukra2. Meena rashi gives idealism.3. Aditya is Vishnu, Vamana Brahmin, who stood up as a small Brahmin infront of Baalisohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf OfRafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 13:29sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanathhraum namah adityayaDear Zoranji,Why Revati gives idealism? Symbol? Devata? Lord?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comamar napisal(a):Om Namah Shivaya,Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic andhas Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.AndSarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded bysarpas.COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and twomalefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which givesbetrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing.Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someonewho is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5thlord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to hisheart.Incidentally,the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogasand have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Again planetand Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strongGuru too idealistic..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]OnBehalf Of hmuttagi1. lipanj 2007 8:56sohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathDear Shri Sanjay Ji,Pranam:Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior toteaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?sincere regardssohamsa , "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrathwrote:>> This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the HareKrishna> movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotishwith> me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was togo> to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and Iasked> my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500and> so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagnawith> Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personalpurpose in> addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdigest.com> Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had noother> option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases â€"WritPetition> No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to aginface me> in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag ofdirty> tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic theSmugglerI> am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment.All> equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegallyimported.> He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking hishuge> excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this,forget> it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.>> --> Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2o. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "amar" ahimsa.yu ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:44 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Sara,It is good that you brought this matter. Most people do not know the truth.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar Rath1. lipanj 2007 16:57sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Shri Brahmadaru SmaramiDear Anurag and Zoran,The most important fact I think is the defamation. Dinanath falsely claimed in a dubious website, that there was a FIR against Sanjay. So Sanjayji had to file cases against such claims, which included submitting all the defamatory mails written in Vedic-Astrology, Varahamihira and other lists along with that web site contains. The end result was that the police were hauled up in court by the judge! And the judge gave orders for 11 other cases where the police had done similar things. So Sanjayji's case enabled the clearance of 11 other such cases!! Then in the high court, the court enforced the submissions of the reports of the Finance Ministry which cleared his name from other allegations. At the end the judge admonished the other party very harshly forbidding them even to appeal against the order.Now that didn't stop our friends either! We have recently heard from someone, that these people are going around and telling people that it is they who have won the cases and painting quite the opposite picture. It is a very maligned and directed defamation. And he has very quietly fought against them and won the cases about a year and a half ago. I think no one even knows this.Best Regards,Sarbani Sarkar Rathhttp://sarbani.com-------------------------sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of amarFriday, June 01, 2007 4:47 PMsohamsa Subject: RE: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathOm Namah Shivaya,Of course Guruji could have done this. However, he is too idealistic and has Guru in meena with Lagnesha in Revati,which gives mistakes in judgment due to his overidealistic nature.And Sarpa Yoga...too many times he is surrounded bysarpas. COmbinations for being cheated are formed by one (at least) and two malefics in 4th house. It is known as Kapata Yoga which givesbetrayals from close ones. Rahu is the worst it gives back stabbing. Guruji has Rahu in 4th house which means backstabbed by someonewho is close to his heart. Rahu is 12th lord and dispositor of the 5th lord, so his student from abroad, someone very closed to his heart.Incidentally,the person was Kumbha Lagna (Rahu)I also have Rahu and Shani in the 4th house involved with Sarpa Yogas and have been betrayed by many people I loved and charished. Again planet and Arudha Lagna in Revati nakshatra, poor judment, and strongGuru too idealistic..Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of hmuttagi1. lipanj 2007 8:56sohamsa Subject: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty DinanathDear Shri Sanjay Ji,Pranam:Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for being cheated?sincere regards--- In sohamsa , "Pt.Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath wrote:>> This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare Krishna> movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learn jyotish with> me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. He was to go> to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out there and I asked> my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimha gave $500 and> so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow got into a> fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wife wrote a> threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancer lagna with> Rähu) completely captured the websites and of SJVC.> Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimha in the> name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal purpose in> addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdigest.com> Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, the hard> hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.I had no other> option but to file a court case and fought them in the court.By the> grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the cases âEUR"Writ Petition> No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of 2004> against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and I openly> challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or to agin face me> in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bag of dirty> tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the SmugglerI> am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India to fight> Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and has clandestinely> imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronics project by> defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well as the> Government of India as he has not paid the duty for the equipment. All> equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally imported.> He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of a sädhu> (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easily fooled. The> customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checking his huge> excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with all this, forget> it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > --> Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/2007 05:35:00 PM> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 2p. Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanath Posted by: "amar" ahimsa.yu ahimsavm Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:52 am (PST) Om Namah Shivaya,I am afraid we will get into a long discussion here.Exaltation does not change the graha being saumya or crura. Hitler Hadexaled Rahu in9th house, and look at his dharma. I am not comparing nor attributing youbad traits, just discussingthe matter. SO, one graha does not make a character. What Tijana stated therest of the chart should bejudged to see the person.What you stated is correct, I agree that Exatled Rahu gives high ideals, andexalted nodes in kendra givespirituality. However, Rahu is still crura. Do not take this personally, weare discussing Jyotish.To analyze your character, I repeat the whole picture will count.Best wishesZoransohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf OfRafal Gendarz1. lipanj 2007 18:10sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: [Rath's Rhapsody] Dirty Dinanathhraum namah adityayaDear Tijana,Why Rahu exalted should give bad traits still? Is it not high ideals?Nodes in kendra gives spirituality..Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comnix_nixen napisal(a):Om Gurave NamahDear Rafal,Rahu in Mercury signs in lagna will direct a person towards gainingand money issues. Rahu will give his best here (exalted andmooltrikona) to acchieve what he desires and he will not certainly dothat by the means of rightiousness.But your chart is separate issue and what gives you the capability tofight that Rahu`s influence is the storage of beuatiful spiritualyogas in your 5th house, in the first place-Darmakarmaadi pati yogaformed by AK and 9th lord. I`m sure that Sarpa brought you muchtroubles in life and much questions and dillemas until you have notturned to the light of Vishnu (Mercury) who breaks the Sarpa for you.Rahu as the co-lord of the 9th brought problems related to dharma andfather (as you are born catholic and have become bhakta)?Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*>> Dear Anuragji,>> What with me? Ra in first, Buddha in forth...I am cheater?>> Other perspective: Buddha as Lagnesh (me) is only benefic in SarpaYoga.>> Other perspective: Rahu in Lagna is like Jupiter for Gemini (ninthlord).>> Other perspective: Ju and Su are in kona to D1 Lagna.>> How You see those?>> *My chart: http://docs. rohinaa.com/ chart.pdf*>> Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal *Jyotish pages*: www.rohinaa. com>> Anurag Sharma napisa?(a):> >> > |Om Shreenivasaya Namah|> >> > Being cheated can be seen from a malefic in the 4th House. InSanjay> > Ji's chart, exalted Rahu tenants the 4th House. This is KapataYoga.> >> > If there is a natural malefic in the Lagna, the native himselfhas the> > capacity to cheat. If malefics tenant both Lagna and 4th, thereis a> > cheating tug-of-war going on.> >> > Suppose, there is Guru in Lagna in strength, the person may be> > teaching, instead of cheating like Rahu in the 4th. Rahu loves to> > shock with deceit. If he is discovered right at the outset, howwill> > it garner the shock and terrible deceit, it loves so much, and ifit> > does not Rahu will not be Rahu.> >> > Guru Graha is just not bothered ab initio. Later, maybe afterbeing> > subjected to many cheatings, it may have some awareness of how tospot> > cheats. But I doubt, Guru will have any interest in it to beginwith.> > Guru will have interest in things Sanatan, while Rahu will havein> > things that belong to Satan, at least insofar as traditionalChristian> > thought goes.> >> > So, Sanatan Versus Satan is what Guru Versus Rahu might indicate.In> > Hindu thought, we do not really divide Good and Evil in thismanner.> >> > Thus, we are happy to say Karma will take its own course. And itwill.> > Nothing can really change that.> >> > Regards,> >> > Anurag Sharma> >> > http://www.planetar ytransformation. blogspot. com> > sohamsa@ .com, "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shri Sanjay Ji,> > >> > > Pranam:> > >> > > Could you not make out his character (astrologically) prior to> > > teaching him? what factors (astrologically) cause for beingcheated?> > >> > > sincere regards> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Pt.Sanjay Rath" sanjayrath@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > This is about a fellow who is a Director with ISKCON, the Hare> > > Krishna> > > > movement started by Prabhupäda. This fellow came to learnjyotish> > > with> > > > me at Delhi and I taught him free of cost for four years. Hewas to> > > go> > > > to the USA and start Sri Jagannätha Vedic Center out thereand I> > > asked> > > > my friends to contribute.Sat Siri Ji gave $500, Narasimhagave $500> > > and> > > > so many sent money to him to start SJVC but this fellow gotinto a> > > > fight with Robert Koch and when I supported Robert, his wifewrote a> > > > threatening mail and thereafter he along with Vijay Deep> > > > (ex-politician, Gemini Lagna with Rähu) and V.S.Raju (Cancerlagna> > > with> > > > Rähu) completely captured the websites and ofSJVC.> > > > Dinanath used the money he had taken from Sat Siri, Narasimhain the> > > > name of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu and used it for his personal> > > purpose in> > > > addition to hosting the captured website http://jyotishdigest.com> > > > Inspite of all my pleadings not to do such an evil thing, thehard> > > > hearted devilish fellow (Kumbha) continued in his tirade.Ihad no> > > other> > > > option but to file a court case and fought them in thecourt.By the> > > > grace of Jagannätha Mahäprabhu, I have won all the casesâEUR"Writ> > > Petition> > > > No.1512 of 2004 against Vijay Deep Writ Petition No.1501 of2004> > > > against V.S.RajuThe judgment was delivered on July 2005 and Iopenly> > > > challenged them to have the guts to go for an appeal or toagin> > > face me> > > > in any court. So long as we are talking law and not their bagof> > > dirty> > > > tricks, by Jagannätha I will win. Dinanath, Dejan Kocic the> > > SmugglerI> > > > am now in the process of examining cyber laws in India tofight> > > > Dinanath a.k.a Dejan Kocic. He is a smuggler and hasclandestinely> > > > imported millions of rupees of equipment for animatronicsproject by> > > > defrauding both the Hare Krishna temple at Delhi as well asthe> > > > Government of India as he has not paid the duty for theequipment.> > > All> > > > equipment used in those animatronics projects are illegally> > > imported.> > > > He used to change his clothes and wear the saffron robes of asädhu> > > > (monk) so that Indians, who are spiritual can be easilyfooled. The> > > > customs officers would do pranaams to him instead of checkinghis> > > huge> > > > excess baggage.If you think that you can get away with allthis,> > > forget> > > > it. The law if India and of Karma will catch up.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Posted By Pt.Sanjay Rath to Rath's Rhapsody at 5/31/200705:35:00 PM> > > >> > >> >> >> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (26) 3a. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "Ramadas Rao" ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in ramadasrao Fri Jun 1, 2007 1:30 pm (PST) OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Bharat Ji,Thanks for your mail.You have given a good interpretation using Vimshottari Dasa.But as per me,we have to use transits of major planets along with Budha and Kuja also.Now let us see now what Lord Narasimha can do ie., when he will take the lady's Seva of Tulabhara.Anyhow I also feel that both you and Ramanarayanan Ji gave almost similar period and now we have to wait for Lord Narasimha's Blessings.Meanwhile I am interested in her D-60 chart analysis with Moola Dasa.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > wrote:Namaste Sri RamadasjiI haven't used Moola Dasha. I have used good old Vimshottari Dasa. I took the dates only for one month in advance since it was quite late at night. My reasonings are as follows:For any chart, for performing Tulabhara - the sign Libra (Tula) is important and so is its lord. Since dana is given, there has to be a connection between the 12th house or lord to the 9th house since it is being given for Dharma. Since coconut and rice is being offered, Moon has to be connected to the process. 12th lord is Shani. It is in Mercury's Nakshatra which is in the 9th house. This makes Mercury very important for performing any danam. This also gives her the trait of giving for religious purposes. Venus, the Tula rasi lord, is in nakshatra of Shani - lord of giving. Venus and Mercury combine in 9th house shows Tulabhara is possible in the Venus-Mercury mahadasha. Lord Narasimha Temple seems to near the coast, hence Moon is important once again. Prabhu Narasimha is the lord of Mars. There has to be a connection of Mars itself. Since Mercury, Venus, Mars and Moon are conjunct, the combination of their dasha, antardasha, prayantar,etc..should give the dates of Tulabhara. Mars in Mercury's nakshatra shows a possibility of the connection of an Avatara of Prabhu Vishnu the one that is denoted by Mars (Prabhu Narasimha) Considering the period of Sri Ramanarayanan to be correct, the following dates come to my mind:11- Oct -200715-10-2007 26-10-200731-10-200702-11-200711-11-2007Do let me know on the decided date as and when it happens, it'll help me in my study. Thanks for this wonderful query and it does help us think. Thanks & RegardsBharatOn 5/31/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Bharat Ji, Thanks for your mail.How you arrived such dates ? The lady wants to know when such event may happen during a particular Dasa- Antara- Pratyantara.You can use any Dasa system.It also seems that she is very good in occult Astrology and that is why she wrote to me that she is giving a clue to check her Moola Dasa to perform such Karma which may be due to some Past life incidents.Here what she wants is that as she wants to help a girl in getting her married by religious means,so she gave the Janma Nakshatra of the girl to make us know why she wants to perform Tulabhara. As per me this is really a tough query she asked and we have to analyse the chart with as much as methods we know.Also she wrote to me that she has performed the Tulabhara in a Krishna temple in Hyderabad many years before.I hope this helps.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu@ gmail.com> wrote:Namaste Sri RamadasjiThank you for the detailed information. I'd love to visit this place one day whenever I am down south. I have never attempted such a query before. The following days are what I have shortlisted for the Tulabhara Seva with Cocunuts and Rice: June 25, 2007June 27, 2007 to July 1, 2007July 4, 2007July 30, 2007August 22 and 27, 2007I shall try and shortlist further. Can you also confirm whether this lady has performed Tulabhara Seva many times before? It appears so from the chart. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 5/31/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Bharat Ji, Namaste.I gave a detailed explanation.Tulabhara Seva has to be performed by the said lady and not the girl to be married.Tulabhara has to be performed by rice and coconuts with the weight of the lady.The Narasimha temple is almost more than 800 years-1000 years old and is situated in a place called Saligrama which is a small village in Dakshina Kannada district and is about 55 Kms.from Mangalore city.The Sthala Purana says the idol of Lord Narasimha was earlier installed by Narada Maharshi.This Narasimha is called Guru Narasimha and is Ugra in look.The Sthala Purana says that when this idol was installed in that village,there was a paddy field which belonged to a Satwic Brahmin who is a worshipper of this Narasimha Swamy.But as the years were passed the power of Narasimha became so fierce that the crops started burning when that Brahmin was cultivating the paddy.Finally with a metal piece, he hit the idol on its head and a mark was formed due to his hit but still the problems not solved.Then finally the villagers changed the face of the idol to the reverse direction so that the Brahmin's crops should not be burnt.But eventhen in front of this idol, any house or any construction started to burn.Finally as per the advise of a Maharshi,Lord Anjaneya ( Hanuman ) has been installed and almost for 24 Hrs. a day, Chandana + butter paste is being applied to the body ofHanuman as HE started getting very hot ( Lord Hanuman's idol getting red hot ).This procedure is being followed now also. A powerful Lord Narasimha who can give boons to HIS woshippers.So when this said lady approaced the chief priest of this Narasimha temple, he said Lord Narasimha will arrange the marriage of the girl very soon but the lady has to perform the Tulabhara Seva within a week after the marraige and she agreed for that. So now the question is that by studying her chart, when she can perform this Seva to Lord Narasimha ? We can use any Dasa system to arrive at a appropriate period. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smaran,Ramadas Rao.Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu@ gmail.com> wrote:Namaste Sri RamadasjiA few queries:1. Is the Tulabhara to be performed by the lady whose birth details are given? 2. With what substance is the Tulabhara to be performed?3. Where is the Sri Narasimha Temple located? Awaiting your response.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 5/29/07, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in > wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Listed members,Here is one twisted query from a lady whose birth particulars are given below.You will see this special chart who has a Parivrajya Yoga along with some other occult experiences the lady is experiencing.She is helping a lot to the needed.She is highly religious and spiritual also.Recently she went to a Narasimha temple and performed her Prayers there and suddenly she asked a query to the chief Priest who is a Narasimha Upasaka that when the marriage of a girl whose Janma Nakshatra Krittika-4th Pada will take place ? Immidiately the priest told her that the girl will get married very soon but then she has to perform Tulabhara in front of Narasimha by means of rice and coconuts.Then she agreed for this special but important Seva.Now she asked me a query that when she can perform this Tulabhara ? Here the query is slightly a twisted one .The Seva of Tulabhara will be performed within a week of the marriage.So the query is when the marriage of the girl takes place so that thislady can perform the Seva of Tulabhara in front of Lord Narasimha ? She says that please check her Moola Dasa and find out what is in store with her .She does not wanted to give the birth particulars of the girl to be married excpet the Janma Nakshatra. Here are the birth details of the lady :7/12/1961 ,Time of birth : 13:57:50 Hrs.Place of Birth : Munirabad, India ( Long. : 76 Deg.E 20',Lat.: 15 Deg.N20')Discussions are welcome regarding this matter.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smaran,Ramadas Rao.Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3b. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "rama narayanan" sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in sree88ganesha Fri Jun 1, 2007 8:26 pm (PST) SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. i am happy to receive your responses. i had taken the birth time as 13hrs 52mts and 53secs. The Lagna in Shastyamsa is Kshiteesa. The lagna(Vrischika) lord Mars is placed in 12th in Thula. This indicates that she was born in Brahmin family in a north facing house in the past birth. Look at the rasi chart. The jala rasis get greater emphasis. This gives clue of her intuitive/psychic nature. The navamsa lagna is also Vrischika with Moon in it(intuitive/psychic). Mars the lagna lord placed in Kendra (Mars in kumbha in general is said to generate electrical energy which sometimes harms the vision - 10th house rules vision and Mars in 11th can harm this) in navamsa indicates the extra efforts/energy put by the atma to see through what's happening.Atmakaraka represent the spectacle/glasses worn by Atma to have a view of the world/life. The Atmakaraka shown in/for the rasi diagram is the manifested one/the one adopted by the jiva. Jivanmukthamsa is the 12th sign from the Karakamsa. This has nothing to do with AK generated by the software for the navamsa.The software generated varga Atmakarakas are nothing but the view points of jiva relating to the respective varga which is however,subject to the approval of AK of the rasi diagram. For eg. the navamsa generated AK can represent the dharmaatma but the manifested AK(rasi diagram) need not necessarily see eye to eye with this AK. In the case under consideration we have Venus as the software generated AK for navamsa which does not see eye to eye with Mars the Manifested AK. Mars blocks Venus ruler of Agneya in dik chakra by tenanting in Agneya in Kalachakra. This speaks of the inner struggle. Using the software generated longitudes we can know the varga nakshatra/varga thithi/varga yoga/varga karana. Is there a way to know the varga vaara?!!! We have to necessarily adopt the birth time only. This does not permit conversion. As per the sage the dina lord is akin to Sun and is closely associated with the jivaatma. Please take the AK generated for the birth time and found exhibited in rasi diagram as the AK. Greater clues are available with the deities associated with the varga chakras.The topic of varga longitudes and dasas for vargas is a subject by itself. Infact the dasas popularly called as conditional dasas throw greater light.As regards the curses - She has to offer Thirumangalya on a Friday during the rahu kala after lighting a lamp to Mother Lakshmi.Ask her to do the remedies. She can consider her Ista as Mahakaaleswara(Aghoramurthy to be specific).Mars with A8(Rna) in shastyamsa and subject to the aspects of Rahu and Sani gives the clue relating to the curse of the past life which needs to be set right. Ask her to chant the Narsimha mantra given already.i hope this is of some help.!!Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Your explanation is simply superb and I agree with you.Please elaborate further about the remedies you mentioned.She wrote me that she offered Mangalya ,one on a wednesday and the 2nd time on a Saturday recently.But is this should be on Fridays only ??Another thing is that Avinash wrote that Shukra is AK and in Navamsha he is with Ketu in 10th from Navamsha Lagna.I think he was mentioning about Shukra is AK for Navamsha chart which is correct.So he analyses the Navamsha chart's AK and gave the prediction.What do you say regarding this ?What about her D-60 chart ? How you rectified her birth time and what is the new time ? In D-60, Shukra becomes again AK placed in Vrishabha Rashi and is in 4th from D-60 Lagna.Rashi chart AK Kuja is in Tula and both planets are in Shastashtaka. What does this say ?Please elaborate little more.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. Thula represents the natural balance/7th house of kala purusha. It is symbolic of the act of harmonizing/yoking/balancing. She is currently running the Narayana dasa of Mesha the Lord of which is Mars. This Mars is placed in Scorpio in the 8th from the dasa rasi and 9th from Lagna which gives a subtle clue about the debts/deva rna. The antar dasa is that of Scorpio the natural 8th house. We see that the lord of dasa rasi involved in curse in the 8th from dasa rasi and we also see that the 10th house from dasa rasi is also housing a curse wherein we find the involvement of the 10th lord(from dasa rasi) also.We find AK Mars in Yama in dasamsa. This means that the Atmakaraka is having a proper direction. This Mars is placed in apaampati(ruler of ocean) in shastyamsa.i had rectified her birth time. i had used shat trimsa sama dasa(Balarama) and Moola dasa to arrive at the timings. More later..Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Today I got an email from the lady whose birth particulars we are discussing that she has conveyed sincere heartful thanks to you.She also feels that during the period mentioned by you she may perform the Seva of Tulabhara. She is already doing the remedies you have written in your previous mail. She wrote me that how you arrived at such a remedy ? She has already offered Mangalya to the LORD 2 times.She is also chanting the following Shivopasana /Rudra Mantra while performing Abhisheka on Shiva Linga :Om Shambhave Namah. Namaste astu bhagavan vishveshvaraya mahadevaya tryambakaya tripurantakaya trikagni kalaya kalagnirudraya nilakanthaya mrutyunjayaya sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya shriman mahadevaya namah. Om Nidhanapataye Namah Nidhanapatantikaya NamahUrdhvaya Namah Urdhvalingaya NamahHiranyaya Namah Hiranyalingaya NamahSuvarnaya Namah Suvarnalingaya NamahDivyaya Namah Divyalingaya NamahBhavaya Namah Bhavalingaya NamahSarvaya Namah Sarvalingaya NamahShivaya Namah Shivalingaya NamahJwalaya Namah Jwalalingaya NamahAtmaya Namah Atmalingaya NamahParamaya Namah Paramalingaya NamahEtath Somasya Suryasya SarvalingagaSthapayati Panimantram PavitramSadyo jatam prapadyami sadyojatayavai namo namahBhave bave naati bhave bhavasmamam bhavodbhavaya namahVama devaya namo jyesthaya nama shresthaya namoRudraya nama kalaya nama kalavikaranaya namo Balavikaranaya namo balaya namo balapramathanaya namahSarva bhoota damanaya namo manonmanaya namahAghorebhyo thagorebhyo ghora ghora tharebhyahSarvebhya sarva sarvebhya namaste astu rudra rupebhyaTat purshaya vidmahe mahadevaya dheemahi Tanno rudra prachodayaatEeshana sarva vidyanaam eeshwara sarva bhootanamBrahmadhipati brahmanodhipati Brahma shivome astu sada shivohamNamo hiranya bahave hiranya varnyaya Hiranya roopaya hiranya pataye Vikapataya umapataye pashupataye namo namahOm hara hara namah parvati pataye hara hara mahadevAlso one thing she wrote me that the chief priest told her to perform the Tulabhara Seva for the married couple.She asked me to write to you that is there any more remedies she has to do or what you wrote are enough ?Can you please analyse her D-60 chart and interpret her Moola Dasa ?I also request Sanjay Ji , other SJC Gurus and members of this list participate in this discussion and give their valuable analysis.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3c. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "Ramadas Rao" ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in ramadasrao Fri Jun 1, 2007 11:19 pm (PST) OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,Thanks for your analysis through different Sahams.Now after using different Sahams and other methods, you wrote that when Guru transits Makaraka Rashi, the said Lady may perform Tulabhara Seva in front of Lord Narasimha.Now the problem is that as the birth particulars of the girl to be married is not available except her Janma Nakshatra Krittika -4th Pada,we can not judge from one side only.Anyhow we know that the Janma Rashi is Vrishabha,so Guru becomes 8th and 11th lord.Guru is the lord of Mangalya Sthana.So Guru transitting over his own house of Mangalya Sthana can bring about the marriage.This is what I feel.But when Guru transits over Makara which is 2nd from Mangalya Sthana which is considered Maraka for Mangalya Sthana, will marriage take place during this period or during Guru's transit over Vrischika Rashi itself as Guru aspects Vrishabha now ? As this is a direct aspect, I strongly feel that the girl's marriage may get fixed during this time and marriage may take place when Guru transits over Mangalya Sthana ie.,Dhanu Rashi.Now the remaining things either for early or delayed marriage of the girl will be decided by Lord Narasimha only.Thanks again for your inputs.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,PranamsLooking at Sahams, Karyasiddi Saham( fruitification of work) is in Dhanishta nakshatra and Vivaha Saham is in Dhanishta nakshatra, Yashas Saham (fame) is in Sravana.All are in Makara Rasi. I am therefore thinking ( along with dasas/bhukti and Transits)Tulabhara (linked to a marriage event) can take place when Guru transits in Makara Rasi in Dhanishta nakshatra ie Oct 2009. also I noted how mars is at that time Since each Saham indicates over one particular event of life, events as marriage, child birth, fame, travel, illness, death, crossing oceans etc I took note of it also. There is no indicative Saham in Dhanur rasi in this lady's chart that can relate in this aspect. Please see the labha saham is Kruttika nakshatra and the labha in this case could be Yashas for the lady because from Makara Guru will aspect Vrishabha at that time. When Shani is about to enter Kanya Rasi, her mental preparations for Daana ( Thulabhara)will begin because Shani is 12th lord (charity) and Kuja (AK)9th lord will be well aspecting each other around that time Please correct me and help me learn on this as I am a beginner.I offer my humble prayers to Sri. LakshmiNarasimhaSwamy to fulfil her wish much before predictive date as he is my Kulavamshadeva. Let my analysis be wrong.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,That is a very good explanation.You had gone little deeper using Nakshatra lords in each divisional chart.I agree that Ketu's Nakshatra lord is Rahu in D-10 chart and is in 9th in D-10 chart with Budha who is the dispositor for Ketu.Also Rahu becomes AmK for D-10 and Kuja becomes AK again.So I feel that the transit of Guru over Dhanu Rashi which becomes 10th from Rashi chart,transitting over 10th lord Budha and aspecting Guru in D-9 chart,Transitting over AmK Rahu and Budha the dispositor for Ketu in D-10 and aspecting Surya and Shani,Budha and Ketu in D-60 chart.Now Karma giver is Shani and the Phala or the result giver is Guru,so I strongly feel that Guru's transit over Dhanu Rashi will enable the lady to perform this Dharmic Seva of Tulabhara but to help a girl who is yet to be married.Just see that in D-60 chart,Surya is in Amrita Shastyamsha, Shani in Nirmala Shastyamsha and Ketu in Yaksha Shastyamsha.So transit Guru's aspect on these planets in D-60 may bringabout the event.Thanks for your inputs.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,PranamsVenus is her AK in Navamsa in the Chitta nakshatra which is ruled by Mars and is placed in her 10th house.Also her AK is Mars in the Poorvabhadra nakshatra ruled by Guru in D-10 and Venus is again her AK in D-60 chart in the mrigashira nakshatra ruled by Mars. Mars being her Rasi AK placed in 9th in the rasi chart has more to say and involved in the curse. Please look at her Ketu in dhanishta nakshatra in Rasi, it is in Hastha moon's nakshatra in navamsa ( in 10th)and in Aridra ruled by Rahu in D-10. Rahu is in cancer in the Rasi chart This is the reasoning behind my timing of Tulabhara around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate. Please excuse me if I am wrongCan you please ask the lady to atleast provide the birth details of the girl's father & that will help in timing.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,There is no problem even you are a beginner.But Kuja is AK and not Shukra as you wrote.Please check your calculations.Also I feel that Ketu's Moola Dasa will be more appropriate to give the results of debts of Past life.Is it not ?I request others to join this discussion to give more analysis of D-60 chart and Moola Dasa.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,Pranams. I am a beginner with bare basics. I very humbly put forth my thoughts. I think the said Tulabhara could take place around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate.Kindly look at Venus-Ketu position in the Navamsa in the 10th from Dhanur. Venus is also the atmakaraka in Navamsa Around the same time when shani transits into Kanya Rasi. Transit Shani will aspect the 9th house of the Rasi chart and it will pass over Venus and Ketu placed in Kanya Rasi in the 10th house in navamsa, Simultaneously Guru transit will also take place in Makara. Guru will be transiting over its natal position of the D-1, D10 chart D-60 ( In all Guru is in Makara) and also over Shani and ketu of the D-1which is important. By this time the Ketu Moola dasa ends and Guru moola dasa begins. If the girl's nakshatra is kruttika then Guru will be transiting through the 9th house for the girl in question in October 2009 for whose sake this Tulabhara is performed.I think we can expect a dharma karya when Guru transits over so many natal divisions for this lady in combination with 9th house Guru transit for the girl in question.Kindly forgive my mistakes. RegardsAvinashGet your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3d. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "Ramadas Rao" ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in ramadasrao Fri Jun 1, 2007 11:30 pm (PST) OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.That is a fantastic analysis.I agree with you in all considerations.You have used all the Astrological parameters in this analysis.So you wanted to analyse her Shattrimsha Sama Dasa as her birth Lagna is in Simha and the birth being in day time.I will pass on your message to her so that she can perform the remedies correctly.Thanks again.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. i am happy to receive your responses. i had taken the birth time as 13hrs 52mts and 53secs. The Lagna in Shastyamsa is Kshiteesa. The lagna(Vrischika) lord Mars is placed in 12th in Thula. This indicates that she was born in Brahmin family in a north facing house in the past birth. Look at the rasi chart. The jala rasis get greater emphasis. This gives clue of her intuitive/psychic nature. The navamsa lagna is also Vrischika with Moon in it(intuitive/psychic). Mars the lagna lord placed in Kendra (Mars in kumbha in general is said to generate electrical energy which sometimes harms the vision - 10th house rules vision and Mars in 11th can harm this) in navamsa indicates the extra efforts/energy put by the atma to see through what's happening.Atmakaraka represent the spectacle/glasses worn by Atma to have a view of the world/life. The Atmakaraka shown in/for the rasi diagram is the manifested one/the one adopted by the jiva. Jivanmukthamsa is the 12th sign from the Karakamsa. This has nothing to do with AK generated by the software for the navamsa.The software generated varga Atmakarakas are nothing but the view points of jiva relating to the respective varga which is however,subject to the approval of AK of the rasi diagram. For eg. the navamsa generated AK can represent the dharmaatma but the manifested AK(rasi diagram) need not necessarily see eye to eye with this AK. In the case under consideration we have Venus as the software generated AK for navamsa which does not see eye to eye with Mars the Manifested AK. Mars blocks Venus ruler of Agneya in dik chakra by tenanting in Agneya in Kalachakra. This speaks of the inner struggle. Using the software generated longitudes we can know the varga nakshatra/varga thithi/varga yoga/varga karana. Is there a way to know the varga vaara?!!! We have to necessarily adopt the birth time only. This does not permit conversion. As per the sage the dina lord is akin to Sun and is closely associated with the jivaatma. Please take the AK generated for the birth time and found exhibited in rasi diagram as the AK. Greater clues are available with the deities associated with the varga chakras.The topic of varga longitudes and dasas for vargas is a subject by itself. Infact the dasas popularly called as conditional dasas throw greater light.As regards the curses - She has to offer Thirumangalya on a Friday during the rahu kala after lighting a lamp to Mother Lakshmi.Ask her to do the remedies. She can consider her Ista as Mahakaaleswara(Aghoramurthy to be specific).Mars with A8(Rna) in shastyamsa and subject to the aspects of Rahu and Sani gives the clue relating to the curse of the past life which needs to be set right. Ask her to chant the Narsimha mantra given already.i hope this is of some help.!!Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Your explanation is simply superb and I agree with you.Please elaborate further about the remedies you mentioned.She wrote me that she offered Mangalya ,one on a wednesday and the 2nd time on a Saturday recently.But is this should be on Fridays only ??Another thing is that Avinash wrote that Shukra is AK and in Navamsha he is with Ketu in 10th from Navamsha Lagna.I think he was mentioning about Shukra is AK for Navamsha chart which is correct.So he analyses the Navamsha chart's AK and gave the prediction.What do you say regarding this ?What about her D-60 chart ? How you rectified her birth time and what is the new time ? In D-60, Shukra becomes again AK placed in Vrishabha Rashi and is in 4th from D-60 Lagna.Rashi chart AK Kuja is in Tula and both planets are in Shastashtaka. What does this say ?Please elaborate little more.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAMAUM GURUBYO NAMAHDear Shri Ramadasji,Namaste. Thula represents the natural balance/7th house of kala purusha. It is symbolic of the act of harmonizing/yoking/balancing. She is currently running the Narayana dasa of Mesha the Lord of which is Mars. This Mars is placed in Scorpio in the 8th from the dasa rasi and 9th from Lagna which gives a subtle clue about the debts/deva rna. The antar dasa is that of Scorpio the natural 8th house. We see that the lord of dasa rasi involved in curse in the 8th from dasa rasi and we also see that the 10th house from dasa rasi is also housing a curse wherein we find the involvement of the 10th lord(from dasa rasi) also.We find AK Mars in Yama in dasamsa. This means that the Atmakaraka is having a proper direction. This Mars is placed in apaampati(ruler of ocean) in shastyamsa.i had rectified her birth time. i had used shat trimsa sama dasa(Balarama) and Moola dasa to arrive at the timings. More later..Best wishes.May Mother Bless.Astrologically & spiritually yours,p.s.ramanarayanan.Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Ramanarayanan Ji,Namaste.Today I got an email from the lady whose birth particulars we are discussing that she has conveyed sincere heartful thanks to you.She also feels that during the period mentioned by you she may perform the Seva of Tulabhara. She is already doing the remedies you have written in your previous mail. She wrote me that how you arrived at such a remedy ? She has already offered Mangalya to the LORD 2 times.She is also chanting the following Shivopasana /Rudra Mantra while performing Abhisheka on Shiva Linga :Om Shambhave Namah. Namaste astu bhagavan vishveshvaraya mahadevaya tryambakaya tripurantakaya trikagni kalaya kalagnirudraya nilakanthaya mrutyunjayaya sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya shriman mahadevaya namah. Om Nidhanapataye Namah Nidhanapatantikaya NamahUrdhvaya Namah Urdhvalingaya NamahHiranyaya Namah Hiranyalingaya NamahSuvarnaya Namah Suvarnalingaya NamahDivyaya Namah Divyalingaya NamahBhavaya Namah Bhavalingaya NamahSarvaya Namah Sarvalingaya NamahShivaya Namah Shivalingaya NamahJwalaya Namah Jwalalingaya NamahAtmaya Namah Atmalingaya NamahParamaya Namah Paramalingaya NamahEtath Somasya Suryasya SarvalingagaSthapayati Panimantram PavitramSadyo jatam prapadyami sadyojatayavai namo namahBhave bave naati bhave bhavasmamam bhavodbhavaya namahVama devaya namo jyesthaya nama shresthaya namoRudraya nama kalaya nama kalavikaranaya namo Balavikaranaya namo balaya namo balapramathanaya namahSarva bhoota damanaya namo manonmanaya namahAghorebhyo thagorebhyo ghora ghora tharebhyahSarvebhya sarva sarvebhya namaste astu rudra rupebhyaTat purshaya vidmahe mahadevaya dheemahi Tanno rudra prachodayaatEeshana sarva vidyanaam eeshwara sarva bhootanamBrahmadhipati brahmanodhipati Brahma shivome astu sada shivohamNamo hiranya bahave hiranya varnyaya Hiranya roopaya hiranya pataye Vikapataya umapataye pashupataye namo namahOm hara hara namah parvati pataye hara hara mahadevAlso one thing she wrote me that the chief priest told her to perform the Tulabhara Seva for the married couple.She asked me to write to you that is there any more remedies she has to do or what you wrote are enough ?Can you please analyse her D-60 chart and interpret her Moola Dasa ?I also request Sanjay Ji , other SJC Gurus and members of this list participate in this discussion and give their valuable analysis.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) 3e. Re: Re : When to perform Tulabhara ? Posted by: "avinash nandan" avina121 avina121 Sat Jun 2, 2007 12:12 am (PST) Dear Guruji,PranamsLooking at Sahams, Karyasiddi Saham( fruitification of work) is in Dhanishta nakshatra and Vivaha Saham is in Dhanishta nakshatra, Yashas Saham (fame) is in Sravana.All are in Makara Rasi. I am therefore thinking ( along with dasas/bhukti and Transits)Tulabhara (linked to a marriage event) can take place when Guru transits in Makara Rasi in Dhanishta nakshatra ie Oct 2009. also I noted how mars is at that time Since each Saham indicates over one particular event of life, events as marriage, child birth, fame, travel, illness, death, crossing oceans etc I took note of it also. There is no indicative Saham in Dhanur rasi in this lady's chart that can relate in this aspect. Please see the labha saham is Kruttika nakshatra and the labha in this case could be Yashas for the lady because from Makara Guru will aspect Vrishabha at that time. When Shani is about to enter Kanya Rasi, her mental preparations for Daana ( Thulabhara)will begin because Shani is 12th lord (charity) and Kuja (AK)9th lord will be well aspecting each other around that time Please correct me and help me learn on this as I am a beginner.I offer my humble prayers to Sri. LakshmiNarasimhaSwamy to fulfil her wish much before predictive date as he is my Kulavamshadeva. Let my analysis be wrong.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,That is a very good explanation.You had gone little deeper using Nakshatra lords in each divisional chart.I agree that Ketu's Nakshatra lord is Rahu in D-10 chart and is in 9th in D-10 chart with Budha who is the dispositor for Ketu.Also Rahu becomes AmK for D-10 and Kuja becomes AK again.So I feel that the transit of Guru over Dhanu Rashi which becomes 10th from Rashi chart,transitting over 10th lord Budha and aspecting Guru in D-9 chart,Transitting over AmK Rahu and Budha the dispositor for Ketu in D-10 and aspecting Surya and Shani,Budha and Ketu in D-60 chart.Now Karma giver is Shani and the Phala or the result giver is Guru,so I strongly feel that Guru's transit over Dhanu Rashi will enable the lady to perform this Dharmic Seva of Tulabhara but to help a girl who is yet to be married.Just see that in D-60 chart,Surya is in Amrita Shastyamsha, Shani in Nirmala Shastyamsha and Ketu in Yaksha Shastyamsha.So transit Guru's aspect on these planets in D-60 may bringabout the event.Thanks for your inputs.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,PranamsVenus is her AK in Navamsa in the Chitta nakshatra which is ruled by Mars and is placed in her 10th house.Also her AK is Mars in the Poorvabhadra nakshatra ruled by Guru in D-10 and Venus is again her AK in D-60 chart in the mrigashira nakshatra ruled by Mars. Mars being her Rasi AK placed in 9th in the rasi chart has more to say and involved in the curse. Please look at her Ketu in dhanishta nakshatra in Rasi, it is in Hastha moon's nakshatra in navamsa ( in 10th)and in Aridra ruled by Rahu in D-10. Rahu is in cancer in the Rasi chart This is the reasoning behind my timing of Tulabhara around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate. Please excuse me if I am wrongCan you please ask the lady to atleast provide the birth details of the girl's father & that will help in timing.RegardsAvinashRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAHOM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAHDear Avinash,There is no problem even you are a beginner.But Kuja is AK and not Shukra as you wrote.Please check your calculations.Also I feel that Ketu's Moola Dasa will be more appropriate to give the results of debts of Past life.Is it not ?I request others to join this discussion to give more analysis of D-60 chart and Moola Dasa.With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,Ramadas Rao.avinash nandan <avina121 > wrote:Dear Guruji,Pranams. I am a beginner with bare basics. I very humbly put forth my thoughts. I think the said Tulabhara could take place around October 2009 in the Venus Dasa-Ketu bhukti period, Ar-Cn Narayana dasa and at that time Guru Moola dasa will also start to operate.Kindly look at Venus-Ketu position in the Navamsa in the 10th from Dhanur. Venus is also the atmakaraka in Navamsa Around the same time when shani transits into Kanya Rasi. Transit Shani will aspect the 9th house of the Rasi chart and it will pass over Venus and Ketu placed in Kanya Rasi in the 10th house in navamsa, Simultaneously Guru transit will also take place in Makara. Guru will be transiting over its natal position of the D-1, D10 chart D-60 ( In all Guru is in Makara) and also over Shani and ketu of the D-1which is important. By this time the Ketu Moola dasa ends and Guru moola dasa begins. If the girl's nakshatra is kruttika then Guru will be transiting through the 9th house for the girl in question in October 2009 for whose sake this Tulabhara is performed.I think we can expect a dharma karya when Guru transits over so many natal divisions for this lady in combination with 9th house Guru transit for the girl in question.Kindly forgive my mistakes. RegardsAvinashGet your own web address.Have a HUGE year through Small Business.Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Need Mail bonding?Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users.Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (23) Recent Activity 2 New MembersVisit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Mail Next gen email? Try the all-new Mail Beta. Search Ads Get new customers. 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