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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Hmuttagi,

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

hmuttagi napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Guruji,

 

The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn is

greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the mistake.

 

Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same mantra * om

namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?

 

Look forward to your advise.

 

Sincerely

>

> > sohamsa@

..com, "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > om gurave namah

> > > Dear H Muttagi

> > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord Mercury is

 

> aspecting

> > the 5th

> > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the 4th kind

of

> > sambandha. The

> > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further the Moon

form of

> > Vishnu is

> > > Krishna as per Parasara.

> > >

> > > Next step is to look into the details of the planets and

you

have

> > stated

> > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the *address*

to Sri

> > Krishna should

> > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in the Vishnu

Purana

is

> > *Vasudeva*

> > >

> > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo bhagavate

vaasudevaaya*

> > 12 akshara

> > > moksha mantra

> > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and before food.

May you

> have

> > > realisation.

> > >

> > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a Brahmana

by

> seeking

> > his

> > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit greatly

in both

> > spiritual

> > > advancement and material prosperity. This is based on

the rasi

> > chart. If

> > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata then the

bija of

> that

> > planet

> > > can be added to the mantra.

> > >

> > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija after 1

year.

> First

> > do this

> > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my book

Vedic

> Remedies

> > in

> > > Astrology

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > <http://srath. com/>

http://srath. com <http://jiva. us/>

> > http://jiva. us

> > > <http://siva- edu-com/>

http://siva- edu-com

> > > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/>

> > http://sagittariusp

ublications. com

> > > <http://

..org/> http://

..org

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com [sohamsa@

..com]

On

> > Behalf Of

> > > hmuttagi

> > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM

> > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > Re: 5th house mantra

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > >

> > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?

> > >

> > > Thanks in anticipation.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> 40. com> .com,

> > > "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > >

> > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th house mantras

classes

and

> am

> > > > trying to understand which mantra could be

applicable for the

> > chart

> > > > below:

> > > >

> > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun

20:16:44(Sag-

> Purvasadha

> > 3;

> > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37(

Lib-Svati 1);

> > Mer:6:09:28

> > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta

1);Ven:5:54: 05(Aqu-

> > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati

3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-U

> > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> > > >

> > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth lord in

4th.

> > Additionally

> > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji says 8th

lord in 12th

> has

> > to

> > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna mantra

suffice if so

waht

> > be

> > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should start with

"Va".

> > > >

> > > > Please advise.

> > > >

> > > > best regards

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Rafal Ji,

 

Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th lord

is Chandra so should the starting letter not be " Va " like

Vamdev/Vasudeva.

 

I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can you

help me come out of this confusion?

 

Eagerly awaiting your advise.

 

sincerely

Hanmant Muttagi

 

PS: Please find below the chart details:

Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-

Purvasadha3;Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

Mer:6:09:28(Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05

(Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-

UBhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa); ATMAKARAKA:

Saturn

 

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Hmuttagi,

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> hmuttagi napisa?(a):

> >

> >

> > Dear Guruji,

> >

> > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn is

> > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the mistake.

> >

> > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same mantra *

om

> > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?

> >

> > Look forward to your advise.

> >

> > Sincerely

> > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>, " Sanjay Rath " <sanjayrath@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om gurave namah

> > > > > Dear H Muttagi

> > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord Mercury is

> > > aspecting

> > > > the 5th

> > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the 4th kind of

> > > > sambandha. The

> > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further the Moon form

of

> > > > Vishnu is

> > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.

> > > > >

> > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the planets and you

> > have

> > > > stated

> > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the *address* to

Sri

> > > > Krishna should

> > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in the Vishnu

Purana

> > is

> > > > *Vasudeva*

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo bhagavate

> > vaasudevaaya*

> > > > 12 akshara

> > > > > moksha mantra

> > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and before food. May

you

> > > have

> > > > > realisation.

> > > > >

> > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a Brahmana by

> > > seeking

> > > > his

> > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit greatly in

both

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is based on the

rasi

> > > > chart. If

> > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata then the bija

of

> > > that

> > > > planet

> > > > > can be added to the mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija after 1 year.

> > > First

> > > > do this

> > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my book Vedic

> > > Remedies

> > > > in

> > > > > Astrology

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > <http://srath. com/ <http://srath.com/>> http://srath. com

> > <http://srath.com> <http://jiva. us/ <http://jiva.us/>>

> > > > http://jiva. us <http://jiva.us>

> > > > > <http://siva- edu-com/ <http://siva-edu-com/>> http://siva-

> > edu-com <http://siva-edu-com>

> > > > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/

> > <http://sagittariuspublications.com/>>

> > > > http://sagittariusp ublications. com

> > <http://sagittariuspublications.com>

> > > > > <http:// .org/ <http://.org/>>

> > http:// .org <http://.org>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>

[sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>]

> > On

> > > > Behalf Of

> > > > > hmuttagi

> > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40>

> > > > > Re: 5th house mantra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in anticipation.

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com> .com,

> > > > > " hmuttagi " <hmuttagi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th house mantras classes

> > and

> > > am

> > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could be applicable for

the

> > > > chart

> > > > > > below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-

> > > Purvasadha

> > > > 3;

> > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

> > > > Mer:6:09:28

> > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54:

05(Aqu-

> > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35

(Pis-U

> > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth lord in 4th.

> > > > Additionally

> > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji says 8th lord in

12th

> > > has

> > > > to

> > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna mantra suffice if so

> > waht

> > > > be

> > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should start with " Va " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best regards

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear HMuttagi,

 

I will not comment what Sanjayji said - it would be ridiculous.

 

Mukti mantra or Param-Padam mantra is determined based on 12 from

Karakamsa, while fifth bhava in D1 shows attitude and mood. If Sani is

in fifth then based on what Sanjayji said we can perscribe Akooparaya

mantra.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

hmuttagi napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal Ji,

 

Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th lord

is Chandra so should the starting letter not be "Va" like

Vamdev/Vasudeva.

 

I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can you

help me come out of this confusion?

 

Eagerly awaiting your advise.

 

sincerely

Hanmant Muttagi

 

PS: Please find below the chart details:

Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-

Purvasadha3; Mon:25:26: 03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

Mer:6:09:28( Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05

(Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-

UBhadrapad3) ; Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa); ATMAKARAKA:

Saturn

 

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Hmuttagi,

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> hmuttagi napisa?(a):

> >

> >

> > Dear Guruji,

> >

> > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn

is

> > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the

mistake.

> >

> > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same

mantra *

om

> > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?

> >

> > Look forward to your advise.

> >

> > Sincerely

> > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa% 40. com>, "Sanjay Rath"

<sanjayrath@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om gurave namah

> > > > > Dear H Muttagi

> > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord

Mercury is

> > > aspecting

> > > > the 5th

> > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the

4th kind of

> > > > sambandha. The

> > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further

the Moon form

of

> > > > Vishnu is

> > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.

> > > > >

> > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the

planets and you

> > have

> > > > stated

> > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the

*address* to

Sri

> > > > Krishna should

> > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in

the Vishnu

Purana

> > is

> > > > *Vasudeva*

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo

bhagavate

> > vaasudevaaya*

> > > > 12 akshara

> > > > > moksha mantra

> > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and

before food. May

you

> > > have

> > > > > realisation.

> > > > >

> > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a

Brahmana by

> > > seeking

> > > > his

> > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit

greatly in

both

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is

based on the

rasi

> > > > chart. If

> > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata

then the bija

of

> > > that

> > > > planet

> > > > > can be added to the mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija

after 1 year.

> > > First

> > > > do this

> > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my

book Vedic

> > > Remedies

> > > > in

> > > > > Astrology

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > <http://srath.

com/ <http://srath. com/>> http://srath. com

> > <http://srath. com> <http://jiva. us/ <http://jiva.

us/>>

> > > > http://jiva. us <http://jiva. us>

> > > > > <http://siva-

edu-com/ <http://siva- edu-com/>>

http://siva-

> > edu-com <http://siva- edu-com>

> > > > > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/

> > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/>>

> > > > http://sagittariusp

ublications. com

> > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com>

> > > > > <http://

..org/ <http:// .org/>>

 

> > http:// .org

<http:// .org>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa% 40. com>

[sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa% 40. com>]

> > On

> > > > Behalf Of

> > > > > hmuttagi

> > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

40. com>

> > > > > Re: 5th house mantra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in anticipation.

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com> .com,

> > > > > "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th

house mantras classes

> > and

> > > am

> > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could

be applicable for

the

> > > > chart

> > > > > > below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun

20:16:44(Sag-

> > > Purvasadha

> > > > 3;

> > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2);

Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

> > > > Mer:6:09:28

> > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12:

46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54:

05(Aqu-

> > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati

3);Rah:10:28: 35

(Pis-U

> > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth

lord in 4th.

> > > > Additionally

> > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji

says 8th lord in

12th

> > > has

> > > > to

> > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna

mantra suffice if so

> > waht

> > > > be

> > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should

start with "Va".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best regards

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Rafal and others, Namaskar

We are actually supposed to choose the adhi devata of the strongest

influence on the fifth house/lord. For new readers do refer to the Atri

class on the same.

The issue arises that the Adhi Devatas for Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are

Brahma, Sarpa and Naga respectively which normally are not to be

worshiped as Adhi Devatas as they can bring wrong desires, etc. Instead

these planets in the fifth actually cause problems in the persons

future/progress to begin with, and normally its the people who have

these planets in the fifth or influencing it that come to us with this

question. Example: check those people who have nodes in the fifth house

or joining the lord. They are often confused /unclear about their

future goals/direction.

So, as a result i advise them to worship Narayana, Durga and Ganesha

respectively, as these are the Pratyadhi devatas of these grahas, and

end up solving the issues which the grahas bring in the first place and

thus help the person progress. Sometimes more intense remedies are

required, such as Mahavidya, but this is a good start.

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Rafal Gendarz wrote:

 

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear HMuttagi,

 

I will not comment what Sanjayji said - it would be ridiculous.

 

Mukti mantra or Param-Padam mantra is determined based on 12 from

Karakamsa, while fifth bhava in D1 shows attitude and mood. If Sani is

in fifth then based on what Sanjayji said we can perscribe Akooparaya

mantra.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

hmuttagi napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal Ji,

 

Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th lord

is Chandra so should the starting letter not be "Va" like

Vamdev/Vasudeva.

 

I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can you

help me come out of this confusion?

 

Eagerly awaiting your advise.

 

sincerely

Hanmant Muttagi

 

PS: Please find below the chart details:

Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-

Purvasadha3; Mon:25:26: 03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

Mer:6:09:28( Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05

(Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-

UBhadrapad3) ; Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa); ATMAKARAKA:

Saturn

 

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Hmuttagi,

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.

com

>

> hmuttagi napisa?(a):

> >

> >

> > Dear Guruji,

> >

> > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn

is

> > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the

mistake.

> >

> > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same

mantra *

om

> > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?

> >

> > Look forward to your advise.

> >

> > Sincerely

> > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

40. com>, "Sanjay Rath"

<sanjayrath@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om gurave namah

> > > > > Dear H Muttagi

> > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord

Mercury is

> > > aspecting

> > > > the 5th

> > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the

4th kind of

> > > > sambandha. The

> > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further

the Moon form

of

> > > > Vishnu is

> > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.

> > > > >

> > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the

planets and you

> > have

> > > > stated

> > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the

*address* to

Sri

> > > > Krishna should

> > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in

the Vishnu

Purana

> > is

> > > > *Vasudeva*

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo

bhagavate

> > vaasudevaaya*

> > > > 12 akshara

> > > > > moksha mantra

> > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and

before food. May

you

> > > have

> > > > > realisation.

> > > > >

> > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a

Brahmana by

> > > seeking

> > > > his

> > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit

greatly in

both

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is

based on the

rasi

> > > > chart. If

> > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata

then the bija

of

> > > that

> > > > planet

> > > > > can be added to the mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija

after 1 year.

> > > First

> > > > do this

> > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my

book Vedic

> > > Remedies

> > > > in

> > > > > Astrology

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > <http://srath.

com/ <http://srath.

com/>> http://srath.

com

> > <http://srath.

com> <http://jiva.

us/ <http://jiva.

us/>>

> > > > http://jiva.

us <http://jiva. us>

> > > > > <http://siva-

edu-com/ <http://siva-

edu-com/>> http://siva-

 

> > edu-com <http://siva- edu-com>

> > > > > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/

> > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/>>

> > > > http://sagittariusp

ublications. com

> > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com>

> > > > > <http://

..org/ <http://

..org/>>

> > http://

..org

<http://

..org>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

40. com>

[sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

40. com>]

> > On

> > > > Behalf Of

> > > > > hmuttagi

> > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

40. com>

> > > > > Re: 5th house mantra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in anticipation.

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com> .com,

> > > > > "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th

house mantras classes

> > and

> > > am

> > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could

be applicable for

the

> > > > chart

> > > > > > below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun

20:16:44(Sag-

> > > Purvasadha

> > > > 3;

> > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2);

Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

> > > > Mer:6:09:28

> > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12:

46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54:

05(Aqu-

> > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati

3);Rah:10:28: 35

(Pis-U

> > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth

lord in 4th.

> > > > Additionally

> > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji

says 8th lord in

12th

> > > has

> > > > to

> > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna

mantra suffice if so

> > waht

> > > > be

> > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should

start with "Va".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best regards

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Learned,What Visti, have said is true, I have Rahu in my 5th house, I have confusion, fear what is going to happen and always two choices in life when I have to decide something ( Leading to confusion ).

Now my Diksha Guru has given me a Mahavidya Mantra along with Ganesha Mantra ( As I should not reveal them as per my guru's instruction ) along with Sri Yantra. But this remedy was specific to my chart, cannot be a general solution for people having Rahu in 5H. I hope to get some relief and some positive directions in my life soon.RegardsAnandOn 6/20/07, Visti Larsen <

visti wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Rafal and others, Namaskar

We are actually supposed to choose the adhi devata of the strongest

influence on the fifth house/lord. For new readers do refer to the Atri

class on the same.

The issue arises that the Adhi Devatas for Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are

Brahma, Sarpa and Naga respectively which normally are not to be

worshiped as Adhi Devatas as they can bring wrong desires, etc. Instead

these planets in the fifth actually cause problems in the persons

future/progress to begin with, and normally its the people who have

these planets in the fifth or influencing it that come to us with this

question. Example: check those people who have nodes in the fifth house

or joining the lord. They are often confused /unclear about their

future goals/direction.

So, as a result i advise them to worship Narayana, Durga and Ganesha

respectively, as these are the Pratyadhi devatas of these grahas, and

end up solving the issues which the grahas bring in the first place and

thus help the person progress. Sometimes more intense remedies are

required, such as Mahavidya, but this is a good start.

Yours sincerely,

 

 

--

 

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Rafal Gendarz wrote:

 

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear HMuttagi,

 

I will not comment what Sanjayji said - it would be ridiculous.

 

Mukti mantra or Param-Padam mantra is determined based on 12 from

Karakamsa, while fifth bhava in D1 shows attitude and mood. If Sani is

in fifth then based on what Sanjayji said we can perscribe Akooparaya

mantra.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

hmuttagi napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal Ji,

 

Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th lord

is Chandra so should the starting letter not be " Va " like

Vamdev/Vasudeva.

 

I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can you

help me come out of this confusion?

 

Eagerly awaiting your advise.

 

sincerely

Hanmant Muttagi

 

PS: Please find below the chart details:

Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-

Purvasadha3; Mon:25:26: 03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

Mer:6:09:28( Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05

(Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-

UBhadrapad3) ; Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa); ATMAKARAKA:

Saturn

 

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Hmuttagi,

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.

com

>

> hmuttagi napisa?(a):

> >

> >

> > Dear Guruji,

> >

> > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn

is

> > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the

mistake.

> >

> > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same

mantra *

om

> > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?

> >

> > Look forward to your advise.

> >

> > Sincerely

> > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

40. com>, " Sanjay Rath "

<sanjayrath@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > om gurave namah

> > > > > Dear H Muttagi

> > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord

Mercury is

> > > aspecting

> > > > the 5th

> > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the

4th kind of

> > > > sambandha. The

> > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further

the Moon form

of

> > > > Vishnu is

> > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.

> > > > >

> > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the

planets and you

> > have

> > > > stated

> > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the

*address* to

Sri

> > > > Krishna should

> > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in

the Vishnu

Purana

> > is

> > > > *Vasudeva*

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo

bhagavate

> > vaasudevaaya*

> > > > 12 akshara

> > > > > moksha mantra

> > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and

before food. May

you

> > > have

> > > > > realisation.

> > > > >

> > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a

Brahmana by

> > > seeking

> > > > his

> > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit

greatly in

both

> > > > spiritual

> > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is

based on the

rasi

> > > > chart. If

> > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata

then the bija

of

> > > that

> > > > planet

> > > > > can be added to the mantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija

after 1 year.

> > > First

> > > > do this

> > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my

book Vedic

> > > Remedies

> > > > in

> > > > > Astrology

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > > Sanjay Rath

> > > > > <http://srath.

com/ <http://srath.

com/>> http://srath.

com

> > <http://srath.

com> <http://jiva.

us/ <http://jiva.

us/>>

> > > > http://jiva.

us <http://jiva. us>

> > > > > <http://siva-

edu-com/ <http://siva-

edu-com/>> http://siva-

 

> > edu-com <http://siva- edu-com>

> > > > > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/

> > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com/>>

> > > > http://sagittariusp

ublications. com

> > <http://sagittariusp

ublications. com>

> > > > > <http://

..org/ <http://

..org/>>

> > http://

..org

<http://

..org>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

40. com>

[sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

40. com>]

> > On

> > > > Behalf Of

> > > > > hmuttagi

> > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

40. com>

> > > > > Re: 5th house mantra

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in anticipation.

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com> .com,

> > > > > " hmuttagi " <hmuttagi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th

house mantras classes

> > and

> > > am

> > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could

be applicable for

the

> > > > chart

> > > > > > below:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun

20:16:44(Sag-

> > > Purvasadha

> > > > 3;

> > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2);

Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);

> > > > Mer:6:09:28

> > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12:

46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54:

05(Aqu-

> > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati

3);Rah:10:28: 35

(Pis-U

> > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth

lord in 4th.

> > > > Additionally

> > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji

says 8th lord in

12th

> > > has

> > > > to

> > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna

mantra suffice if so

> > waht

> > > > be

> > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should

start with " Va " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please advise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best regards

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- ThanksAnand Srivatsa

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Dear Anand,

Perhaps you have a different mantra, other than based on Durga.

It would help if when the time comes, you could let us know how it helped you .

Sincerely,

Sharat

 

 

-

Anand Srivatsa

sohamsa

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:35 PM

Re: Re: Sanjay Ji: 5th house mantra-error on AK

 

 

Dear Learned,What Visti, have said is true, I have Rahu in my 5th house, I have confusion, fear what is going to happen and always two choices in life when I have to decide something ( Leading to confusion ).Now my Diksha Guru has given me a Mahavidya Mantra along with Ganesha Mantra ( As I should not reveal them as per my guru's instruction ) along with Sri Yantra. But this remedy was specific to my chart, cannot be a general solution for people having Rahu in 5H. I hope to get some relief and some positive directions in my life soon.RegardsAnand

On 6/20/07, Visti Larsen < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Rafal and others, NamaskarWe are actually supposed to choose the adhi devata of the strongest influence on the fifth house/lord. For new readers do refer to the Atri class on the same. The issue arises that the Adhi Devatas for Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are Brahma, Sarpa and Naga respectively which normally are not to be worshiped as Adhi Devatas as they can bring wrong desires, etc. Instead these planets in the fifth actually cause problems in the persons future/progress to begin with, and normally its the people who have these planets in the fifth or influencing it that come to us with this question. Example: check those people who have nodes in the fifth house or joining the lord. They are often confused /unclear about their future goals/direction.

So, as a result i advise them to worship Narayana, Durga and Ganesha respectively, as these are the Pratyadhi devatas of these grahas, and end up solving the issues which the grahas bring in the first place and thus help the person progress. Sometimes more intense remedies are required, such as Mahavidya, but this is a good start.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Rafal Gendarz wrote:

 

hraum namah adityayaDear HMuttagi,I will not comment what Sanjayji said - it would be ridiculous.Mukti mantra or Param-Padam mantra is determined based on 12 from Karakamsa, while fifth bhava in D1 shows attitude and mood. If Sani is in fifth then based on what Sanjayji said we can perscribe Akooparaya mantra.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comhmuttagi napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal Ji,Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th lord is Chandra so should the starting letter not be "Va" like Vamdev/Vasudeva. I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can you help me come out of this confusion?Eagerly awaiting your advise.sincerelyHanmant MuttagiPS: Please find below the chart details:Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-Purvasadha3; Mon:25:26: 03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);Mer:6:09:28( Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05(Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-UBhadrapad3) ; Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa); ATMAKARAKA: Saturnsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Hmuttagi,> > Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > hmuttagi napisa?(a):> >> >> > Dear Guruji,> >> > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn is> > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the mistake.> >> > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same mantra * om> > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?> >> > Look forward to your advise.> >> > Sincerely> > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > om gurave namah> > > > > Dear H Muttagi> > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord Mercury is> > > aspecting> > > > the 5th> > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the 4th kind of> > > > sambandha. The> > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further the Moon form of> > > > Vishnu is> > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.> > > > >> > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the planets and you> > have> > > > stated> > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the *address* to Sri> > > > Krishna should> > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in the Vishnu Purana> > is> > > > *Vasudeva*> > > > >> > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo bhagavate> > vaasudevaaya*> > > > 12 akshara> > > > > moksha mantra> > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and before food. May you> > > have> > > > > realisation.> > > > >> > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a Brahmana by> > > seeking> > > > his> > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit greatly in both> > > > spiritual> > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is based on the rasi> > > > chart. If> > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata then the bija of> > > that> > > > planet> > > > > can be added to the mantra.> > > > >> > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija after 1 year.> > > First> > > > do this> > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my book Vedic> > > Remedies> > > > in> > > > > Astrology> > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > <http://srath. com/ <http://srath. com/>> http://srath. com > > <http://srath. com> <http://jiva. us/ <http://jiva. us/>>> > > > http://jiva. us <http://jiva. us>> > > > > <http://siva- edu-com/ <http://siva- edu-com/>> http://siva- > > edu-com <http://siva- edu-com>> > > > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/ > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/>>> > > > http://sagittariusp ublications. com > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com>> > > > > <http:// .org/ <http:// .org/>> > > http:// .org <http:// .org>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > _____> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> [sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com>]> > On> > > > Behalf Of> > > > > hmuttagi> > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>> > > > > Re: 5th house mantra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,> > > > >> > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in anticipation.> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%> > > 40. com> .com,> > > > > "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,> > > > > >> > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th house mantras classes> > and> > > am> > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could be applicable for the> > > > chart> > > > > > below:> > > > > >> > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-> > > Purvasadha> > > > 3;> > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);> > > > Mer:6:09:28> > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05(Aqu-> > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-U> > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)> > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969> > > > > >> > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth lord in 4th.> > > > Additionally> > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji says 8th lord in 12th> > > has> > > > to> > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna mantra suffice if so> > waht> > > > be> > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should start with "Va".> > > > > >> > > > > > Please advise.> > > > > >> > > > > > best regards> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

 

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om guruve namahDear Hanmant,What Sanjay ji has said and what Rafal has suggested both are right.Sanjay ji said that "The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord Mercury is aspecting the 5th house geerating a rajayoga association of the 4th kind of sambandha. The devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further the Moon form of Vishnu is Krishna as per Parasara."Further he said that "...Next step is to look into the details of the planets and you have stated that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the *address* to Sri Krishna should be as Paramatma.." Now here is the confusion cropping in your mind because you have wrongly stated that *moon is your AK*. But the mantra which he has suggested * om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* is still hold good since moon is in the 4th house and dispositor is mercury. So surly you will like doing this mantra. Since it is 12 akshara moksa mantra it is wise to see 12th from karkamsa as guruji has also suggested to check ista deveta. In your case Saturn is the AK conjoined mercury in navamsa. Saturn is your  ista deveta too. So the mantra which Rafal has suggested is also right *om namo bhagavate akooparaya*. To add to this, 8th lord in 12th is straight yoga for "Krisna Bhakti". So do not worry or get confused. Your other confusion is about mantra starting from "Va". This is not a hard and fast rule. This is something to do with tattvas, and it is used for very specific purpose. Do the dwadashakshari as suggested by guruji, to keep the words of guru, it is important. May be after one year you can do the ista mantra suggested by Rafal.Best Regards AJAY ASTROajayzharotia On 20-Jun-07, at 7:07 PM, Rafal Gendarz wrote:hraum namah adityayaDear HMuttagi,I will not comment what Sanjayji said - it would be ridiculous.Mukti mantra or Param-Padam mantra is determined based on 12 from Karakamsa, while fifth bhava in D1 shows attitude and mood. If Sani is in fifth then based on what Sanjayji said we can perscribe Akooparaya mantra.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comhmuttagi napisał(a):Dear Rafal Ji,Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th lord is Chandra so should the starting letter not be "Va" like Vamdev/Vasudeva. I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can you help me come out of this confusion?Eagerly awaiting your advise.sincerelyHanmant MuttagiPS: Please find below the chart details:Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-Purvasadha3; Mon:25:26: 03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);Mer:6:09:28( Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05(Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-UBhadrapad3) ; Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa); ATMAKARAKA: Saturnsohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Hmuttagi,> > Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > hmuttagi napisa?(a):> >> >> > Dear Guruji,> >> > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn is> > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the mistake.> >> > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same mantra * om> > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?> >> > Look forward to your advise.> >> > Sincerely> > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, "Sanjay Rath" <sanjayrath@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > om gurave namah> > > > > Dear H Muttagi> > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord Mercury is> > > aspecting> > > > the 5th> > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the 4th kind of> > > > sambandha. The> > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further the Moon form of> > > > Vishnu is> > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.> > > > >> > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the planets and you> > have> > > > stated> > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the *address* to Sri> > > > Krishna should> > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in the Vishnu Purana> > is> > > > *Vasudeva*> > > > >> > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo bhagavate> > vaasudevaaya*> > > > 12 akshara> > > > > moksha mantra> > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and before food. May you> > > have> > > > > realisation.> > > > >> > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a Brahmana by> > > seeking> > > > his> > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit greatly in both> > > > spiritual> > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is based on the rasi> > > > chart. If> > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata then the bija of> > > that> > > > planet> > > > > can be added to the mantra.> > > > >> > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija after 1 year.> > > First> > > > do this> > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my book Vedic> > > Remedies> > > > in> > > > > Astrology> > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > Sanjay Rath> > > > > <http://srath. com/ <http://srath. com/>> http://srath. com > > <http://srath. com> <http://jiva. us/ <http://jiva. us/>>> > > > http://jiva. us <http://jiva. us>> > > > > <http://siva- edu-com/ <http://siva- edu-com/>> http://siva- > > edu-com <http://siva- edu-com>> > > > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/ > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/>>> > > > http://sagittariusp ublications. com > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com>> > > > > <http:// .org/ <http:// .org/>> > > http:// .org <http:// .org>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > _____> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com> [sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% 40. com>]> > On> > > > Behalf Of> > > > > hmuttagi> > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40. com>> > > > > Re: 5th house mantra> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,> > > > >> > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in anticipation.> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%> > > 40. com> .com,> > > > > "hmuttagi" <hmuttagi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,> > > > > >> > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th house mantras classes> > and> > > am> > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could be applicable for the> > > > chart> > > > > > below:> > > > > >> > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-> > > Purvasadha> > > > 3;> > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-Svati 1);> > > > Mer:6:09:28> > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:5:54: 05(Aqu-> > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-U> > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)> > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969> > > > > >> > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth lord in 4th.> > > > Additionally> > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji says 8th lord in 12th> > > has> > > > to> > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna mantra suffice if so> > waht> > > > be> > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should start with "Va".> > > > > >> > > > > > Please advise.> > > > > >> > > > > > best regards> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Ajay,

Ista devata can not be also Saturn. This is an exception from the

rule-the same planet being Atma karaka and Ista Devata is seen only

in the lifes of the Lord`s incarnations like Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu

for example. Instead, Venus and Moon have rasi dristi on the 12th

from karakamsa. Moon being exalted is stronger and thus determines

Ista Devata. Also, in vimsamsa, Saturn-AK conjoins Chandra. Mantra

given by Sanjayji is perfect for Hanmant.

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

sohamsa , AJAY ASTRO <ajayzharotia wrote:

>

> om guruve namah

>

> Dear Hanmant,

>

> What Sanjay ji has said and what Rafal has suggested both are right.

>

> Sanjay ji said that " The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord

> Mercury is aspecting the 5th house geerating a rajayoga

association

> of the 4th kind of sambandha. The devata insicated by chart is

> Vishnu. Further the Moon form of Vishnu is Krishna as per Parasara. "

>

> Further he said that " ...Next step is to look into the details of

the

> planets and you have stated that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating

that

> the *address* to Sri Krishna should be as Paramatma.. "

>

> Now here is the confusion cropping in your mind because you have

> wrongly stated that *moon is your AK*. But the mantra which he has

> suggested * om namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* is still hold good

since

> moon is in the 4th house and dispositor is mercury. So surly you

will

> like doing this mantra.

>

> Since it is 12 akshara moksa mantra it is wise to see 12th from

> karkamsa as guruji has also suggested to check ista deveta. In

your

> case Saturn is the AK conjoined mercury in navamsa. Saturn is

your

> ista deveta too. So the mantra which Rafal has suggested is also

> right *om namo bhagavate akooparaya*.

>

> To add to this, 8th lord in 12th is straight yoga for " Krisna

> Bhakti " . So do not worry or get confused.

>

> Your other confusion is about mantra starting from " Va " . This is

not

> a hard and fast rule. This is something to do with tattvas, and it

is

> used for very specific purpose.

>

> Do the dwadashakshari as suggested by guruji, to keep the words of

> guru, it is important. May be after one year you can do the ista

> mantra suggested by Rafal.

>

> Best Regards

>

>

> AJAY ASTRO

> ajayzharotia

>

>

>

> On 20-Jun-07, at 7:07 PM, Rafal Gendarz wrote:

>

> > hraum namah adityaya

> >

> > Dear HMuttagi,

> >

> > I will not comment what Sanjayji said - it would be ridiculous.

> >

> > Mukti mantra or Param-Padam mantra is determined based on 12

from

> > Karakamsa, while fifth bhava in D1 shows attitude and mood. If

Sani

> > is in fifth then based on what Sanjayji said we can perscribe

> > Akooparaya mantra.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > hmuttagi napisał(a):

> >> Dear Rafal Ji,

> >>

> >> Thanks for the response, but I need one clarification. The 5th

lord

> >> is Chandra so should the starting letter not be " Va " like

> >> Vamdev/Vasudeva.

> >>

> >> I have heard the recording again where the above is stated. Can

you

> >> help me come out of this confusion?

> >>

> >> Eagerly awaiting your advise.

> >>

> >> sincerely

> >> Hanmant Muttagi

> >>

> >> PS: Please find below the chart details:

> >> Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44(Sag-

> >> Purvasadha3; Mon:25:26: 03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-

> >> Svati 1);

> >> Mer:6:09:28( Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta 1);Ven:

> >> 5:54: 05

> >> (Aqu-Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28: 35(Pis-

> >> UBhadrapad3) ; Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> >> TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> >> KARAKAMSA: Aquarius(no planet in 12th from Karakamsa);

ATMAKARAKA:

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >> >

> >> > Dear Hmuttagi,

> >> >

> >> > Om Namo Bhagavate Akooparaya.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Regards,

> >> > Rafal Gendarz

> >> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> >> > email: rafal@

> >> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >> >

> >> > hmuttagi napisa?(a):

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> > > Dear Guruji,

> >> > >

> >> > > The AK is Saturn and not Chandra as mentioned earlier.Saturn

is

> >> > > greater in longitude by few seconds. Apologize for the

mistake.

> >> > >

> >> > > Since for Saturn deity is Brahm (Vishnu), does the same

mantra *

> >> om

> >> > > namo bhagavate vaasudevaaya* still hold good?

> >> > >

> >> > > Look forward to your advise.

> >> > >

> >> > > Sincerely

> >> > > >

> >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, " Sanjay Rath "

> >> <sanjayrath@ >

> >> wrote:

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > om gurave namah

> >> > > > > > Dear H Muttagi

> >> > > > > > The mantresa is in the 4th house and 4th lord Mercury

is

> >> > > > aspecting

> >> > > > > the 5th

> >> > > > > > house geerating a rajayoga association of the 4th kind

of

> >> > > > > sambandha. The

> >> > > > > > devata insicated by chart is Vishnu. Further the Moon

form

> >> of

> >> > > > > Vishnu is

> >> > > > > > Krishna as per Parasara.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Next step is to look into the details of the planets

and

> >> you

> >> > > have

> >> > > > > stated

> >> > > > > > that Moon is atmakaraka, indicating that the *address*

to

> >> Sri

> >> > > > > Krishna should

> >> > > > > > be as Paramatma for which the name given in the Vishnu

> >> Purana

> >> > > is

> >> > > > > *Vasudeva*

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Therefore the mantra for you is * om namo bhagavate

> >> > > vaasudevaaya*

> >> > > > > 12 akshara

> >> > > > > > moksha mantra

> >> > > > > > 4 mala everyday is minimum; after bath and before

food. May

> >> you

> >> > > > have

> >> > > > > > realisation.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > If on a Monday you can take this mantra from a

Brahmana by

> >> > > > seeking

> >> > > > > his

> >> > > > > > blessings in a temple, you will surely benefit greatly

in

> >> both

> >> > > > > spiritual

> >> > > > > > advancement and material prosperity. This is based on

the

> >> rasi

> >> > > > > chart. If

> >> > > > > > there is a planet indicating the ista devata then the

bija

> >> of

> >> > > > that

> >> > > > > planet

> >> > > > > > can be added to the mantra.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Check your karakamsa and you can add this bija after

1

> >> year.

> >> > > > First

> >> > > > > do this

> >> > > > > > mantra with all mantra samskara as given in my book

Vedic

> >> > > > Remedies

> >> > > > > in

> >> > > > > > Astrology

> >> > > > > > Best Wishes

> >> > > > > > Sanjay Rath

> >> > > > > > <http://srath. com/ <http://srath. com/>>

http://srath. com

> >> > > <http://srath. com> <http://jiva. us/ <http://jiva. us/>>

> >> > > > > http://jiva. us <http://jiva. us>

> >> > > > > > <http://siva- edu-com/ <http://siva- edu-com/>>

http://

> >> siva-

> >> > > edu-com <http://siva- edu-com>

> >> > > > > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/

> >> > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com/>>

> >> > > > > http://sagittariusp ublications. com

> >> > > <http://sagittariusp ublications. com>

> >> > > > > > <http:// .org/ <http:// .org/>>

> >> > > http:// .org <http:// .org>

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > _____

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > <sohamsa% 40. com>

> >> [sohamsa@ .com

> >> > > <sohamsa% 40. com>]

> >> > > On

> >> > > > > Behalf Of

> >> > > > > > hmuttagi

> >> > > > > > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:34 PM

> >> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> >> 40. com>

> >> > > > > > Re: 5th house mantra

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Could some one kindly guide on this query?

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Thanks in anticipation.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

> >> > > > 40. com> .com,

> >> > > > > > " hmuttagi " <hmuttagi@> wrote:

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Shree Ganeshaya namah,

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > I was listening to Sri Sanjay ji 5th house mantras

> >> classes

> >> > > and

> >> > > > am

> >> > > > > > > trying to understand which mantra could be

applicable for

> >> the

> >> > > > > chart

> >> > > > > > > below:

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Asc:4:29:21 (Pis-U Bhadrapad 1pada), Sun 20:16:44

(Sag-

> >> > > > Purvasadha

> >> > > > > 3;

> >> > > > > > > Mon:25:26:03( Gem-Punarvasu 2); Mar-9:35:37( Lib-

Svati

> >> 1);

> >> > > > > Mer:6:09:28

> >> > > > > > > (Cap-Uttarasadha 3);Jup:12:12: 46(Vir-Hasta

1);Ven:5:54:

> >> 05(Aqu-

> >> > > > > > > Dhanishtha 4);Sat:25:26: 46(Pis-Revati 3);Rah:10:28:

35

> >> (Pis-U

> >> > > > > > > Bhadrapad3); Ket:10:28: 35(Vir-Hasta1)

> >> > > > > > > TOB:11:15,POB: Hyderabad, DOB:4th Jan'1969

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > The fifth house is unoccupied with fifth lord in 4th.

> >> > > > > Additionally

> >> > > > > > > 5th lord is AK. In one sentence guruji says 8th lord

in

> >> 12th

> >> > > > has

> >> > > > > to

> >> > > > > > > be Krishna bhakta. Will doing Krishna mantra

suffice

> >> if so

> >> > > waht

> >> > > > > be

> >> > > > > > > the appropriate mantra (gues it should start

with " Va " .

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Please advise.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > best regards

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > >

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

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