Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

June 26, 2007

Dear Tarun

First of all go and Join preliminary level English course as I sad to

tell that you cannot read English.

You didn't understand anything from my message.

Btw I am also Indian, and I know what you want to say don't try to act

smart!!!!!!

Anyway God bless you in all your endeavors.

Kind Regards,

Jim.

Ardent Sisya of Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz.

sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Jim,

>

> Thanks for your kind words,

> my name is Tarun not Taurn, as i am indian and like to be have my

own name :-)

>

> Plaese donot jump in this thread . My humble request to you again.

>

> As i am not disrespecting anyone. Nor i am against the Parampara.

>

> I never opposed anyone in this forum, neither in anyother forum.

Every one has right to express but without dominating and making other

feel low.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> -

> vedicastro_mind

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:21 AM

> Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

>

> Hey Taurn,

>

> Man's karma pull him down.Listen to your action until liberation,

> fantastic upadesa given to me by my Guru and I strictly follow that.

> Do openly brother, its my advice to you.

> I am not Christian but once while going for some work i was " Wages of

> Sin are death " so beautiful quote.

>

> You shouldn't have done that way.

>

> Its really hard to get nice and knowledgeable person like Guruji.

> Person with strong patience and perseverance.

> He tolerates worst sisya like me and still teaches so beautifully.

>

> Kind Regards,

> Jim.

>

> sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafal ji,

> >

> > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me

> guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession /

> eductation of the charts posted by me.

> > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance

> from my guru.

> >

> > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can

> answer this one atleast.

> >

> > 1) Male chart

> > October 30, 1961

> > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > Jodhpur, India

> >

> > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

> >

> > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to

> explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again

> dominated by you.

> >

> > -

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > sohamsa

> > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects --

> Charts

> >

> > hraum namah adityaya

> >

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu

> in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji

> warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they

> should do tons of Guru mantras.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> >

> > hii Sharat,

> >

> > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

> >

> > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > i looked at dasha first.

> >

> > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so

> both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961

> so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

> >

> > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to

> saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good.

> > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> >

> > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

> >

> > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point

> that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i

> missed doctor profesion.)

> >

> > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house.

> > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality

> checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got

> a chance for medical.

> >

> > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)

> >

> > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i

> am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > -

> > Sharat

> > sohamsa

> > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects

> -- Charts

> >

> > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > Please read below, you were close.

> >

> > -

> > ~Tarun~

> > sohamsa

> > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects

> -- Charts

> >

> > >>The first chart of female.

> > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a

> housewife.

> >

> > **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher,

> later as Head and Principal

> >

> > >>About the male chart

> > I concluded that he might have changed his professions several

> times.

> > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a

> consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of

> product.

> >

> > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly

> specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting

> observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> >

> > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,

> perhaps different from what I chose.

> >

> > Regards

> > Sharat

> >

>

June 26, 2007

Dear Jim,

Thats like a good boy.

Thanks for writing my name is Exact spelling... I hope you do understand now, what is english.

Regards,

Tarun

-

vedicastro_mind

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:43 AM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear TarunFirst of all go and Join preliminary level English course as I sad totell that you cannot read English.You didn't understand anything from my message.Btw I am also Indian, and I know what you want to say don't try to actsmart!!!!!!Anyway God bless you in all your endeavors.Kind Regards,Jim.Ardent Sisya of Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz.sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo wrote:>> Dear Jim,> > Thanks for your kind words,> my name is Tarun not Taurn, as i am indian and like to be have myown name :-)> > Plaese donot jump in this thread . My humble request to you again.> > As i am not disrespecting anyone. Nor i am against the Parampara.> > I never opposed anyone in this forum, neither in anyother forum.Every one has right to express but without dominating and making otherfeel low.> > Regards,> > Tarun> > > > > - > vedicastro_mind > sohamsa > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:21 AM> Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts> > > Hey Taurn,> > Man's karma pull him down.Listen to your action until liberation,> fantastic upadesa given to me by my Guru and I strictly follow that.> Do openly brother, its my advice to you.> I am not Christian but once while going for some work i was" Wages of> Sin are death" so beautiful quote.> > You shouldn't have done that way.> > Its really hard to get nice and knowledgeable person like Guruji.> Person with strong patience and perseverance.> He tolerates worst sisya like me and still teaches so beautifully.> > Kind Regards,> Jim.> > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> >> > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me> guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession /> eductation of the charts posted by me. > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance> from my guru.> > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can> answer this one atleast.> > > > 1) Male chart> > October 30, 1961> > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > Jodhpur, India> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to> explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again> dominated by you.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Rafal Gendarz > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects --> Charts> > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu> in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji> warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they> should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > email: rafal@> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > hii Sharat,> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.> > > > in the first chart which u sent me...> > i looked at dasha first.> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so> both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961> so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.> > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to> saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good.> > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)> > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point> that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i> missed doctor profesion.)> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house. > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got> a chance for medical.> > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)> > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i> am awaitn for rafal's answer first.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sharat > > sohamsa > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects> -- Charts> > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Tarun,> > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > - > > ~Tarun~ > > sohamsa > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects> -- Charts> > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a> housewife.> > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher,> later as Head and Principal> > > > > > >>About the male chart > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions several> times.> > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a> consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> product.> > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> observation, the product in question are ' humans' !> > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> perhaps different from what I chose.> > > > > > Regards> > Sharat> >>

June 26, 2007

Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!

And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what

needs to be done in idealistic situation.

Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with it!!!

Jim.

sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> I dont want to debate with you :-)

> and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.

>

> and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna as

sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is not

good for you.

>

> and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> -

> Rafal Gendarz

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects --

Charts

>

> hraum namah adityaya

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru

after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your

Rahu in ninth is helping You!

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me

guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the

profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

> Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis

guidance from my guru.

>

> for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you

can answer this one atleast.

>

> 1) Male chart

> October 30, 1961

> Time: 10:45:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> Jodhpur, India

>

> donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

>

> Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to

explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not

again dominated by you.

-

> Rafal Gendarz

> sohamsa@ .com

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects

-- Charts

>

> hraum namah adityaya

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this

Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.

Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely

they should do tons of Guru mantras.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

>

> hii Sharat,

>

> Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

>

> in the first chart which u sent me...

> i looked at dasha first.

>

> she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn,

so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in

1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

>

> and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to

saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good.

> so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

>

> and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

>

> Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to

point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i

missed doctor profesion.)

>

> surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house.

> In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality

checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got

a chance for medical.

>

> if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)

>

> abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent

you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

-

> Sharat

> sohamsa@ .com

> Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> Re: Re: Which planets for science

subjects -- Charts

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

> Dear Tarun,

>

> Please read below, you were close.

>

> -

> ~Tarun~

> sohamsa@ .com

> Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> Re: Re: Which planets for science

subjects -- Charts

>

> >>The first chart of female.

> My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working

otherwise a housewife.

>

> **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher,

later as Head and Principal

>

> >>About the male chart

> I concluded that he might have changed his professions

several times.

> initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a

consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of

product.

>

> **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly

specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting

observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

>

> Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,

perhaps different from what I chose.

>

> Regards

> Sharat

>

June 26, 2007

Dear Jim,

you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

He too have Rahu in 9th house.

So dont take So senior person in these things.

and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in

words.

Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa , " vedicastro_mind "

<vedicastro_mind wrote:

>

> Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!

> And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what

> needs to be done in idealistic situation.

>

> Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

>

> Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with

it!!!

>

> Jim.

>

> sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafal ji,

> >

> > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.

> >

> > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna

as

> sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is

not

> good for you.

> >

> > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > -

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > sohamsa

> > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -

-

> Charts

> >

> > hraum namah adityaya

> >

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish

Guru

> after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your

> Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal ji,

> >

> > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and

suggesting me

> guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the

> profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

> > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis

> guidance from my guru.

> >

> > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that

you

> can answer this one atleast.

> >

> > 1) Male chart

> > October 30, 1961

> > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > Jodhpur, India

> >

> > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

> >

> > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me

to

> explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not

> again dominated by you.

> >

> > -

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science

subjects

> -- Charts

> >

> > hraum namah adityaya

> >

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this

> Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.

> Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth.

Surely

> they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >

> > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> >

> > hii Sharat,

> >

> > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

> >

> > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > i looked at dasha first.

> >

> > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with

saturn,

> so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born

in

> 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

> >

> > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due

to

> saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again

good.

> > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> >

> > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

> >

> > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to

> point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought

but i

> missed doctor profesion.)

> >

> > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th

house.

> > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality

> checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he

got

> a chance for medical.

> >

> > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an

architect :-)

> >

> > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent

> you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > -

> > Sharat

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> subjects -- Charts

> >

> > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > Dear Tarun,

> >

> > Please read below, you were close.

> >

> > -

> > ~Tarun~

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> subjects -- Charts

> >

> > >>The first chart of female.

> > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working

> otherwise a housewife.

> >

> > **Working ever since finishing college; First as

Teacher,

> later as Head and Principal

> >

> > >>About the male chart

> > I concluded that he might have changed his professions

> several times.

> > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto

a

> consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of

> product.

> >

> > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly

> specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting

> observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> >

> > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,

> perhaps different from what I chose.

> >

> > Regards

> > Sharat

> >

>

June 26, 2007

Dear Mr.Tarun,

What are the other components of language you know??

Brother still I say you don't know English ask any Language expert he

may help you!!!!Watch out your own statement!!!!

I am closing conversation with you anyway.

Regards,

Jim.

sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Jim,

>

> Thats like a good boy.

> Thanks for writing my name is Exact spelling... I hope you do

understand now, what is english.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> -

> vedicastro_mind

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:43 AM

> Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

>

> Dear Tarun

>

> First of all go and Join preliminary level English course as I sad to

> tell that you cannot read English.

> You didn't understand anything from my message.

>

> Btw I am also Indian, and I know what you want to say don't try to act

> smart!!!!!!

>

> Anyway God bless you in all your endeavors.

>

> Kind Regards,

> Jim.

> Ardent Sisya of Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz.

>

> sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > Thanks for your kind words,

> > my name is Tarun not Taurn, as i am indian and like to be have my

> own name :-)

> >

> > Plaese donot jump in this thread . My humble request to you again.

> >

> > As i am not disrespecting anyone. Nor i am against the Parampara.

> >

> > I never opposed anyone in this forum, neither in anyother forum.

> Every one has right to express but without dominating and making other

> feel low.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > -

> > vedicastro_mind

> > sohamsa

> > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:21 AM

> > Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

> >

> > Hey Taurn,

> >

> > Man's karma pull him down.Listen to your action until liberation,

> > fantastic upadesa given to me by my Guru and I strictly follow that.

> > Do openly brother, its my advice to you.

> > I am not Christian but once while going for some work i was "

Wages of

> > Sin are death " so beautiful quote.

> >

> > You shouldn't have done that way.

> >

> > Its really hard to get nice and knowledgeable person like Guruji.

> > Person with strong patience and perseverance.

> > He tolerates worst sisya like me and still teaches so beautifully.

> >

> > Kind Regards,

> > Jim.

> >

> > sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me

> > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the

profession /

> > eductation of the charts posted by me.

> > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance

> > from my guru.

> > >

> > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that

you can

> > answer this one atleast.

> > >

> > > 1) Male chart

> > > October 30, 1961

> > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > Jodhpur, India

> > >

> > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

> > >

> > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to

> > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again

> > dominated by you.

> > >

> > > -

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > sohamsa

> > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects --

> > Charts

> > >

> > > hraum namah adityaya

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu

> > in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.

Guruji

> > warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they

> > should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > >

> > > hii Sharat,

> > >

> > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

> > >

> > > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > > i looked at dasha first.

> > >

> > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so

> > both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born

in 1961

> > so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

> > >

> > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to

> > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again

good.

> > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> > >

> > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

> > >

> > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point

> > that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i

> > missed doctor profesion.)

> > >

> > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house.

> > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality

> > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun,

he got

> > a chance for medical.

> > >

> > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)

> > >

> > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i

> > am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > -

> > > Sharat

> > > sohamsa

> > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects

> > -- Charts

> > >

> > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Please read below, you were close.

> > >

> > > -

> > > ~Tarun~

> > > sohamsa

> > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects

> > -- Charts

> > >

> > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a

> > housewife.

> > >

> > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher,

> > later as Head and Principal

> > >

> > > >>About the male chart

> > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions several

> > times.

> > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a

> > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of

> > product.

> > >

> > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly

> > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting

> > observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> > >

> > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,

> > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Sharat

> > >

> >

>

June 26, 2007

Dear Shri JIm.

Thanks. I am also not interested.

Regards,

tarun

-

vedicastro_mind

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:59 AM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear Mr.Tarun,What are the other components of language you know??Brother still I say you don't know English ask any Language expert hemay help you!!!!Watch out your own statement!!!!I am closing conversation with you anyway.Regards,Jim.sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo wrote:>> Dear Jim,> > Thats like a good boy. > Thanks for writing my name is Exact spelling... I hope you dounderstand now, what is english.> > Regards,> > Tarun> > - > vedicastro_mind > sohamsa > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:43 AM> Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts> > > Dear Tarun> > First of all go and Join preliminary level English course as I sad to> tell that you cannot read English.> You didn't understand anything from my message.> > Btw I am also Indian, and I know what you want to say don't try to act> smart!!!!!!> > Anyway God bless you in all your endeavors.> > Kind Regards,> Jim.> Ardent Sisya of Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz.> > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> >> > Dear Jim,> > > > Thanks for your kind words,> > my name is Tarun not Taurn, as i am indian and like to be have my> own name :-)> > > > Plaese donot jump in this thread . My humble request to you again.> > > > As i am not disrespecting anyone. Nor i am against the Parampara.> > > > I never opposed anyone in this forum, neither in anyother forum.> Every one has right to express but without dominating and making other> feel low.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > > > - > > vedicastro_mind > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:21 AM> > Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts> > > > > > Hey Taurn,> > > > Man's karma pull him down.Listen to your action until liberation,> > fantastic upadesa given to me by my Guru and I strictly follow that.> > Do openly brother, its my advice to you.> > I am not Christian but once while going for some work i was"Wages of> > Sin are death" so beautiful quote.> > > > You shouldn't have done that way.> > > > Its really hard to get nice and knowledgeable person like Guruji.> > Person with strong patience and perseverance.> > He tolerates worst sisya like me and still teaches so beautifully.> > > > Kind Regards,> > Jim.> > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me> > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss theprofession /> > eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance> > from my guru.> > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so thatyou can> > answer this one atleast.> > > > > > 1) Male chart> > > October 30, 1961> > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > Jodhpur, India> > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.> > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to> > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again> > dominated by you.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > sohamsa > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects --> > Charts> > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu> > in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.Guruji> > warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they> > should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > hii Sharat,> > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.> > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me...> > > i looked at dasha first.> > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so> > both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and bornin 1961> > so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.> > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to> > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is againgood.> > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)> > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957> > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point> > that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i> > missed doctor profesion.)> > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house. > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun,he got> > a chance for medical.> > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)> > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i> > am awaitn for rafal's answer first.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sharat > > > sohamsa > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects> > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > - > > > ~Tarun~ > > > sohamsa > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects> > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a> > housewife.> > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher,> > later as Head and Principal> > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions several> > times.> > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a> > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > product.> > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > observation, the product in question are ' humans' !> > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > perhaps different from what I chose.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > Sharat> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

Dear Mr.Tarun,

Its matter of deep regret you have pulled Guru Vistiji, did I took his

name??

So you took it right , you have burnt you own lips.

Don't talk with me this is another thread where I am saying I am

closing this conversation with you.

Jim.

sohamsa , " Tarun " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Jim,

>

> you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

>

> He too have Rahu in 9th house.

>

> So dont take So senior person in these things.

>

> and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in

> words.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> sohamsa , " vedicastro_mind "

> <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:

> >

> > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!

> > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what

> > needs to be done in idealistic situation.

> >

> > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

> >

> > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with

> it!!!

> >

> > Jim.

> >

> > sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.

> > >

> > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna

> as

> > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is

> not

> > good for you.

> > >

> > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > -

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > sohamsa

> > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -

> -

> > Charts

> > >

> > > hraum namah adityaya

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish

> Guru

> > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your

> > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and

> suggesting me

> > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the

> > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

> > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis

> > guidance from my guru.

> > >

> > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that

> you

> > can answer this one atleast.

> > >

> > > 1) Male chart

> > > October 30, 1961

> > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > Jodhpur, India

> > >

> > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

> > >

> > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me

> to

> > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not

> > again dominated by you.

> > >

> > > -

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> subjects

> > -- Charts

> > >

> > > hraum namah adityaya

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this

> > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.

> > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth.

> Surely

> > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > >

> > > hii Sharat,

> > >

> > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

> > >

> > > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > > i looked at dasha first.

> > >

> > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with

> saturn,

> > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born

> in

> > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

> > >

> > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due

> to

> > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again

> good.

> > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> > >

> > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

> > >

> > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to

> > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought

> but i

> > missed doctor profesion.)

> > >

> > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th

> house.

> > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality

> > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he

> got

> > a chance for medical.

> > >

> > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an

> architect :-)

> > >

> > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent

> > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > -

> > > Sharat

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> > subjects -- Charts

> > >

> > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Please read below, you were close.

> > >

> > > -

> > > ~Tarun~

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> > subjects -- Charts

> > >

> > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working

> > otherwise a housewife.

> > >

> > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as

> Teacher,

> > later as Head and Principal

> > >

> > > >>About the male chart

> > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions

> > several times.

> > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto

> a

> > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of

> > product.

> > >

> > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly

> > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting

> > observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> > >

> > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,

> > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Sharat

> > >

> >

>

June 26, 2007

Dear Shri Jim,

Many Thanks for your really great words.

Thanks for closing the thread by yourself.

Regards,

Tarun

-

vedicastro_mind

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:05 PM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear Mr.Tarun,Its matter of deep regret you have pulled Guru Vistiji, did I took hisname??So you took it right , you have burnt you own lips.Don't talk with me this is another thread where I am saying I amclosing this conversation with you.Jim.sohamsa , "Tarun" <tarun.virgo wrote:>> Dear Jim,> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > words.> > Regards,> > Tarun> > sohamsa , "vedicastro_mind" > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:> >> > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > it!!!> > > > Jim.> > > > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > as> > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > not> > good for you.> > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > - > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > sohamsa > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> -> > Charts> > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > Guru> > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > suggesting me> > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > you> > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > October 30, 1961> > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > to> > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > subjects> > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > Surely> > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > saturn,> > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > in> > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > to> > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > good. > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > but i> > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > house. > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > got> > a chance for medical. > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > architect :-) > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sharat > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > - > > > ~Tarun~ > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > Teacher,> > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > several times.> > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > a> > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > product.> > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > Sharat> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Tarun,

#1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an

exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is

sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are

mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always

predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.

#2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.

Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month

Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki

Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to

justify this misguidance.

I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in

Jyotish in future.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

>

> Dear Jim,

>

> you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

>

> He too have Rahu in 9th house.

>

> So dont take So senior person in these things.

>

> and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in

> words.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

> sohamsa , " vedicastro_mind "

> <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:

> >

> > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!

> > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what

> > needs to be done in idealistic situation.

> >

> > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

> >

> > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with

> it!!!

> >

> > Jim.

> >

> > sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.

> > >

> > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna

> as

> > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is

> not

> > good for you.

> > >

> > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > -

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > sohamsa

> > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -

> -

> > Charts

> > >

> > > hraum namah adityaya

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish

> Guru

> > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your

> > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and

> suggesting me

> > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the

> > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

> > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis

> > guidance from my guru.

> > >

> > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that

> you

> > can answer this one atleast.

> > >

> > > 1) Male chart

> > > October 30, 1961

> > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > Jodhpur, India

> > >

> > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

> > >

> > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me

> to

> > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not

> > again dominated by you.

> > >

> > > -

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> subjects

> > -- Charts

> > >

> > > hraum namah adityaya

> > >

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this

> > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.

> > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth.

> Surely

> > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > >

> > > hii Sharat,

> > >

> > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

> > >

> > > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > > i looked at dasha first.

> > >

> > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with

> saturn,

> > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born

> in

> > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

> > >

> > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due

> to

> > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again

> good.

> > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> > >

> > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

> > >

> > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to

> > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought

> but i

> > missed doctor profesion.)

> > >

> > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th

> house.

> > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality

> > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he

> got

> > a chance for medical.

> > >

> > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an

> architect :-)

> > >

> > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent

> > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > -

> > > Sharat

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> > subjects -- Charts

> > >

> > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > Dear Tarun,

> > >

> > > Please read below, you were close.

> > >

> > > -

> > > ~Tarun~

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> > subjects -- Charts

> > >

> > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working

> > otherwise a housewife.

> > >

> > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as

> Teacher,

> > later as Head and Principal

> > >

> > > >>About the male chart

> > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions

> > several times.

> > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto

> a

> > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of

> > product.

> > >

> > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly

> > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting

> > observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> > >

> > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,

> > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Sharat

> > >

> >

>

June 26, 2007

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa , " Rafal " <starsuponme wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa , " vedicastro_mind "

> > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have changed his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 26, 2007

Om Guruve NamahDear Tarun,Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)?I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru.Best Regards AJAY ASTROajayzharotia On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa , "Rafal" <starsuponme wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastro_mind" > > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa , "Rafal" <starsuponme wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastro_mind" > > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Tarun

Just to let you know that at your request I did give my opinion. However you havent responded,instead lost direction.

Anyway, I have nothing further to add.

Regards

Sharat

-

~Tarun~

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:15 PM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa , "Rafal" <starsuponme wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastro_mind" > > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

Hello Sharat ,

Thanks for your mail.

Abt your analysis.

the chart.you studied.

The person is government servant. Works in Railways workshop.in painting section. and comes among labour.

His another profession is astrology. He is a very good astrologer.( not my guru )

His education, didnt studied after 10th. i.e. Secondary.

But i emailed you, in morning i hope you read that.

as i thanked you for boosting my confidence in my mail.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

-

Sharat

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:19 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Tarun

Just to let you know that at your request I did give my opinion. However you havent responded,instead lost direction.

Anyway, I have nothing further to add.

Regards

Sharat

-

~Tarun~

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:15 PM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa , "Rafal" <starsuponme wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastro_mind" > > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

||Hare Rama Krishna||Dear Tarun,

That is very interesting indeed. It seems the KSY did dominate this person.

Note the affliction on Guru who is also 10th lord in 8H , in Rasi.

I wonder if the Dasamsa requires correction, as Kumbha lagna will show Guru in Vrischika in the 10h and no planets in the artha trikona, but Karka in 6H of service aspected by Chandra can give a job in a govt place. If we do take Meena lagna in Dasamsa, as per your time, the exalted Chandra in 2H should have given him a good career in beaurocracy..points to ponder perhaps.

Regards

Sharat

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~Tarun~

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:26 PM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Hello Sharat ,

Thanks for your mail.

Abt your analysis.

the chart.you studied.

The person is government servant. Works in Railways workshop.in painting section. and comes among labour.

His another profession is astrology. He is a very good astrologer.( not my guru )

His education, didnt studied after 10th. i.e. Secondary.

But i emailed you, in morning i hope you read that.

as i thanked you for boosting my confidence in my mail.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

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Sharat

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:19 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Tarun

Just to let you know that at your request I did give my opinion. However you havent responded,instead lost direction.

Anyway, I have nothing further to add.

Regards

Sharat

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~Tarun~

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:15 PM

Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

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AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa , "Rafal" <starsuponme wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "vedicastro_mind" > > <vedicastro_mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa , "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

June 26, 2007

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, Can I look at his birth chart if you dont mind ? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah

adityayaDear Tarun,You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your Rahu in ninth is helping You!Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Rafal ji, Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance from my guru. for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can answer this one atleast. 1) Male chart October 30, 1961Time: 10:45:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Jodhpur, India donot worry abt the exactness of the time. Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is

helping me to explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. Regards, Tarun PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again dominated by you. - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts hraum namah adityaya Dear Tarun,Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu in ninth is

dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they should do tons of Guru mantras.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): hii Sharat, Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. in the first chart which u sent me... i looked at dasha first. she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this due to saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good. so she saw a upside movement in life :-) and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i missed doctor profesion.) surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house. In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got a chance for medical. if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-) abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. Regards, Tarun - Sharat sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts ||Namah Shivaya||Dear Tarun,Please read below, you were close.- ~Tarun~ sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AMRe: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts>>The first chart of female. My conculsion is that she is

a teacher, if working otherwise a housewife. **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher, later as Head and Principal >>About the male chart I concluded that he might have changed his professions several times.initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of product. **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did, perhaps different from what I chose. Regards Sharat

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June 26, 2007

Dear Ramadas ji,

do you want my chart ?

Regards,

Tarun

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Ramadas Rao

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:51 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Rafal,

Can I look at his birth chart if you dont mind ?

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your Rahu in ninth is helping You!Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Rafal ji,

Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance from my guru.

for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can answer this one atleast.

1) Male chart

October 30, 1961Time: 10:45:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Jodhpur, India

donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

Regards,

Tarun

PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again dominated by you.

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

hraum namah adityaya Dear Tarun,Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they should do tons of Guru mantras.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

hii Sharat,

Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

in the first chart which u sent me...

i looked at dasha first.

she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good.

so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i missed doctor profesion.)

surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house.

In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got a chance for medical.

if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)

abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

Regards,

Tarun

-

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com

Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

||Namah Shivaya||Dear Tarun,Please read below, you were close.- ~Tarun~ sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AMRe: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts>>The first chart of female. My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a housewife.

**Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher, later as Head and Principal

>>About the male chart I concluded that he might have changed his professions several times.initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of product.

**Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did, perhaps different from what I chose.

Regards

Sharat

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June 26, 2007

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Tarun, Yes.The reason is many of the listed members are giving so many things about you,so I though let me have your chart and see. Just for a curiosity, is your name Tarun Chopra ?? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Dear Ramadas ji, do you want my chart ? Regards, Tarun - Ramadas

Rao sohamsa Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:51 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, Can I look at his birth chart if you dont mind ? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your Rahu in ninth is helping You!Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Rafal ji, Many thanks for your

concern for my well being and suggesting me guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance from my guru. for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can answer this one atleast. 1) Male chart October 30, 1961Time: 10:45:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Jodhpur, India donot worry abt the

exactness of the time. Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. Regards, Tarun PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again dominated by you. - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts hraum namah

adityaya Dear Tarun,Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they should do tons of Guru mantras.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): hii Sharat, Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. in the first chart which u sent me... i looked at dasha first. she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961 so upto

that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good. so she saw a upside movement in life :-) and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i missed doctor profesion.) surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house. In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got a chance for medical. if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-) abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i am awaitn

for rafal's answer first. Regards, Tarun - Sharat sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts ||Namah Shivaya||Dear Tarun,Please read below, you were close.- ~Tarun~ sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AMRe: Re: Which

planets for science subjects -- Charts>>The first chart of female. My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a housewife. **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher, later as Head and Principal >>About the male chart I concluded that he might have changed his professions several times.initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of product. **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did, perhaps different from what I chose. Regards Sharat

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June 26, 2007

Dear Ramadas ji,

None of the list members pointed my chart :-) yes Rafal ji did.

My name is Tarun Agarwal, not Tarun Chopra.

My details are.

Dob: 19-07-1983

Time : 10.35 AM

Place : Jodhpur - Rajasthan- India

Sir share your views too , it would be great. As my chart shows Logical Person, not theoritical.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

-

Ramadas Rao

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:51 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Tarun,

Yes.The reason is many of the listed members are giving so many things about you,so I though let me have your chart and see.

Just for a curiosity, is your name Tarun Chopra ??

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo > wrote:

Dear Ramadas ji,

do you want my chart ?

Regards,

Tarun

-

Ramadas Rao

sohamsa

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:51 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Rafal,

Can I look at his birth chart if you dont mind ?

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your Rahu in ninth is helping You!Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Rafal ji,

Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well.

Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession / eductation of the charts posted by me.

Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance from my guru.

for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can answer this one atleast.

1) Male chart

October 30, 1961Time: 10:45:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Jodhpur, India

donot worry abt the exactness of the time.

Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.

Regards,

Tarun

PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again dominated by you.

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

hraum namah adityaya Dear Tarun,Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they should do tons of Guru mantras.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

hii Sharat,

Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.

in the first chart which u sent me...

i looked at dasha first.

she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.

and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good.

so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957

Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i missed doctor profesion.)

surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house.

In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got a chance for medical.

if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)

abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first.

Regards,

Tarun

-

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com

Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

||Namah Shivaya||Dear Tarun,Please read below, you were close.- ~Tarun~ sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AMRe: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts>>The first chart of female. My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a housewife.

**Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher, later as Head and Principal

>>About the male chart I concluded that he might have changed his professions several times.initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of product.

**Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did, perhaps different from what I chose.

Regards

Sharat

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June 26, 2007

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Tarun, Thanks for your exact name and the chart details.I will be giving my inputs about your chart tomorrow as now I have to go for night duty. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Dear Ramadas ji, None of the list members pointed my chart :-) yes Rafal ji did. My name is Tarun Agarwal, not Tarun Chopra. My details are. Dob: 19-07-1983 Time : 10.35 AM Place : Jodhpur -

Rajasthan- India Sir share your views too , it would be great. As my chart shows Logical Person, not theoritical. Warm Regards, Tarun -----

Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao sohamsa Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:51 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Tarun, Yes.The reason is many of the listed members are giving so many things about you,so I though let me have your chart and see. Just for a curiosity, is

your name Tarun Chopra ?? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo > wrote: Dear Ramadas ji, do you want my chart ? Regards, Tarun - Ramadas Rao sohamsa Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:51 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, Can I look at his birth chart if you

dont mind ? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your Rahu in ninth is helping You!Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Rafal ji, Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance from my guru. for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can answer this one atleast. 1) Male chart October 30,

1961Time: 10:45:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Jodhpur, India donot worry abt the exactness of the time. Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. Regards, Tarun PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again dominated by you. - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts hraum namah adityaya Dear Tarun,Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they should do tons of Guru mantras.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): hii Sharat, Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. in the first chart which u sent me... i looked at dasha first. she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good. so she saw a upside movement in life :-) and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i missed doctor profesion.) surya budh shukra - these

3 planets are sitting in 5th house. In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got a chance for medical. if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-) abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. Regards, Tarun - Sharat sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts ||Namah Shivaya||Dear Tarun,Please read below, you were close.- ~Tarun~ sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AMRe: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts>>The first chart of female. My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a housewife. **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher, later as Head and Principal >>About the male chart I concluded that he might have changed his professions several times.initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of product. **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did, perhaps different from what I chose. Regards Sharat Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more... you name it, we have it.

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June 26, 2007

Dear Gurujis and all Pranams The Guru's feet represent the power of the Guru to uplift and transform us. The scriptures tells us that the grace which God pours upon human beings actually flows through the feet of the greatbeings. Hence the padukas or sandals of the Guru are regarded reverentially. Everybody should refrain from denigrading a Guru regardless of age and the parampara/tradition should be followed. May the merciful almighty forgive mistakes of the ignorant. Regards Avinash Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote: OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Tarun, Thanks for your exact name and the chart details.I will be giving my inputs about your chart tomorrow as now I have to go for night duty. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo > wrote:

Dear Ramadas ji, None of the list members pointed my chart :-) yes Rafal ji did. My name is Tarun Agarwal, not Tarun Chopra. My details are. Dob: 19-07-1983 Time : 10.35 AM Place : Jodhpur -

Rajasthan- India Sir share your views too , it would be great. As my chart shows Logical Person, not theoritical. Warm Regards, Tarun -----

Original Message ----- Ramadas Rao sohamsa Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:51 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Tarun, Yes.The reason is many of the listed members are giving so many things about you,so I though let me have your chart and see. Just for a curiosity, is

your name Tarun Chopra ?? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo > wrote: Dear Ramadas ji, do you want my chart ? Regards, Tarun - Ramadas Rao sohamsa Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:51 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, Can I look at his birth chart if you

dont mind ? With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish Guru after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your Rahu in ninth is helping You!Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Rafal ji, Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance from my guru. for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can answer this one atleast. 1) Male chart October 30,

1961Time: 10:45:00 pmTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Jodhpur, India donot worry abt the exactness of the time. Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. Regards, Tarun PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again dominated by you. - Rafal Gendarz sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts hraum namah adityaya Dear Tarun,Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they should do tons of Guru mantras.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): hii Sharat, Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. in the first chart which u sent me... i looked at dasha first. she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born in 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good. so she saw a upside movement in life :-) and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i missed doctor profesion.) surya budh shukra - these

3 planets are sitting in 5th house. In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got a chance for medical. if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-) abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. Regards, Tarun - Sharat sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts ||Namah Shivaya||Dear Tarun,Please read below, you were close.- ~Tarun~ sohamsa@ .com Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AMRe: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts>>The first chart of female. My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a housewife. **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher, later as Head and Principal >>About the male chart I concluded that he might have changed his professions several times.initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of product. **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did, perhaps different from what I chose. Regards Sharat Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more... you name it, we have it. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more... you name it, we have it.

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June 27, 2007

à¥¥à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥ Om adityaya namaha

Dear guru bhai Jim and Tarun,

Namaskar.

Please desist from these exchanges. It does neither the parampara nor the individuals any good. But whatever you do, let Dharma guide you. These are not empty words but stemming from experience. Always remember that Dharmic conduct holds you in good stead. A Guru is always great, with only the good of the sisyas at heart. It is our perceptions that alter and show some in a good light and not so good at times. Guruji's advice of Guru mantra sadhana is the best, specially with Rahu in the ninth. Why can it not be proved wrong, being stereotyped?

Excuse me for barging in,

Let the Universal Guru guide us all,

Regards

Nalini

vedicastro_mind <vedicastro_mindsohamsa Sent: Tuesday, 26 June, 2007 6:13:06 PM Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Dear TarunFirst of all go and Join preliminary level English course as I sad totell that you cannot read English.You didn't understand anything from my message.Btw I am also Indian, and I know what you want to say don't try to actsmart!!!!!!Anyway God bless you in all your endeavors.Kind Regards,Jim.Ardent Sisya of Jyotish Guru Rafal Gendarz.sohamsa@ .com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Jim,> > Thanks for your kind words,> my name is Tarun not Taurn, as i am indian and like to be have myown name :-)> > Plaese donot jump in this thread . My humble request to you again.> > As i am not disrespecting anyone. Nor i am against the Parampara.> > I never opposed anyone in this forum, neither in anyother forum.Every one has right

to express but without dominating and making otherfeel low.> > Regards,> > Tarun> > > > > - > vedicastro_mind > sohamsa@ .com > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:21 AM> Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts> > > Hey Taurn,> > Man's karma pull him down.Listen to your action until liberation,> fantastic upadesa given to me by my Guru and I strictly follow that.> Do openly brother, its my advice to you.> I am not Christian but once while going for some work i was" Wages of> Sin are death" so beautiful quote.> > You shouldn't have done that way.> > Its really hard to get nice and knowledgeable person like Guruji.> Person with strong

patience and perseverance.> He tolerates worst sisya like me and still teaches so beautifully.> > Kind Regards,> Jim.> > sohamsa@ .com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and suggesting me> guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the profession /> eductation of the charts posted by me. > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis guidance> from my guru.> > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that you can> answer this one atleast.> > > > 1) Male chart> > October 30, 1961> > Time:

10:45:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > Jodhpur, India> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time.> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me to> explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not again> dominated by you.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Rafal Gendarz > > sohamsa@ .com > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects --> Charts> >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this Rahu> in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami. Guruji> warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. Surely they> should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > Regards,> > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > email: rafal@> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > hii Sharat,> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother.> > > > in the first chart which u sent me...> > i looked at dasha first.> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with saturn, so> both are forming strong yoga to be a

guru.or teacher. and born in 1961> so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet.> > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due to> saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again good.> > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)> > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to point> that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought but i> missed doctor profesion.)> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th house. > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he got> a chance for medical.> > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an architect :-)> > > > abt the answers for

real profession of the charts i sent you...i> am awaitn for rafal's answer first.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sharat > > sohamsa@ .com > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects> -- Charts> > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Tarun,> > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > - > > ~Tarun~ > > sohamsa@ .com > > Monday, June 25, 2007

11:45 AM> > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects> -- Charts> > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working otherwise a> housewife.> > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as Teacher,> later as Head and Principal> > > > > > >>About the male chart > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions several> times.> > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto a> consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> product.> > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> observation, the product in question are ' humans' !> > > > Would be interesting

to see how you chose what you did,> perhaps different from what I chose.> > > > > > Regards> > Sharat> >>Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

June 27, 2007

Dear friends,

Attached herewith my few words of analysis of Tarun Aggarwal's chart on 'Practical and Theoritical' inclinations of the chart in a MS Word File along with chart details- rais-navamsa and dasamsa chart.

With best wishes and regards to all,

Mrutyunjay

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Planet

Length

Navamsa

Karaka

KP Lord

Sublord

Shastiamsa

AV

Ascendant

02 31'36" Vir

Cap

Sun

Jupiter

Kroora (M)

Bhava Lagna

11 00'52" Vir

Ari

Moon

Amrita (B)

Hora Lagna

19 40'16" Sco

Sag

Mercury

Venus

Heramba (B)

Ghatika Lagna

15 38'31" Gem

Aqu

Rahu

Venus

Kaala (M)

Sun

02 21'27" Can

Can

Gnati

Jupiter

Rahu

Atiseetala (B)

7

Moon

27 43'33" Lib

Gem

Atma

Jupiter

Venus

Atiseetala (B)

4

Mars

19 41'38" Gem

Pis

Amatya

Rahu

Mars

Vishadagdha (M)

4

Mercury

13 03'34" Can

Lib

Bhratru

Saturn

Rahu

Ghora (M)

5

Jupiter

R 07 35'46" Sco

Vir

Pitru

Saturn

Ketu

Saumya (B)

3

Venus

11 42'40" Leo

Can

Matru

Ketu

Mercury

Maheswara (B)

5

Saturn

04 21'11" Lib

Sco

Putra

Mars

Venus

Garala (M)

3

Rahu

29 40'49" Tau

Vir

Dara

Mars

Saturn

Ghora (M)

Ketu

29 40'49" Sco

Pis

Mercury

Saturn

Ghora (M)

Having faith and conviction on the existing or accepted social, religious as well as scientific values in the proper perspectives depends upon the good disposition and strength of the 9th lords and the overall cumulative influences on the 9th house of the natal chart. Having weaker or afflicted 9th lord or 9th house having influenced by the natural malefics would show either improper import or grasp of these values resulting in lack of conviction and confidence in these value systems.

Going deep into the formative theory and perceptions of these values- how they work, what are their basic purpose of existence as per law of nature, why should not we dis-belive them, put them to logical/ scientific test in a manner rational generally acceptable to all etc. are undoubtedly the workings of the sixth house of the natal chart. The sixth house lord well disposited and the sixth house well influenced, the native gets the ability and chance to peep into the secrets of these values systems, their formations, purpose and coherence with the organic or universal law of nature. Happening otherwise, the native only enjoys the intellectual exercise of criticizing one and all systems and values here and there, but never able to clearly understand the intricacies that baffles his intelligence and rational analysis of the various happenings and the underlying organic law of nature, its coherence and purposeful existence in relation to human life. Thereby although the individual may be gifted the extraordinary intellgence of breaking into a existing systems/belief he is quite unable to integrate his/her own self alongwith the happenings of the day to day mundane as well as his emotional life.

As we know all the mundane day to day activities of practical nature as well as `practicalness' of things are ruled by the 10th lord, 10th house and the mater of fact and most non-philosophical planet Mars.

In the rasi chart above, please see the position of the 9th lord, 9th house and 6th lord and 6th house.

The 9th house is occupied by exalted Rahu- thereby giving the native an exceptionally good understanding of the various value systems and its purposefulness in relation to the environmental factors(exaltation in rasi). However the rasi dispositor venus being placed in 12th house indicates perpetual struggle in individual/ personal life to integrate the mundane wisdom acquired by Rahu- to be put into practical personal use.

The emotional limitations:- The Rahu is placed in the star of Mars and sub of Saturn. Mars being lord of 3rd and 8 placed in the 10th house in the house of enemy mercury with directional strength inspite of its vigorous activity and involvement of practical and rational nature still dissipiates much of its output to lack of focus and clarity in expressions of the hard earned wisdom.

However, the exalted Saturn being the Yogakaraka planet for virgo placed in the 2nd house of foresight trying hard to keep the overtly practical looking but impulsive mars under harness, the unintended cooperation extended by the Saturnine sign dispositor Venus to the Mars- shows the –unfavourableness of the environmental/ external factors-putting Saturn to extra hard work for planning and management of thoughts, ideas and expressions- to building a theory !

Practical ness:-

The 10th lord of the Rasi Chart Mercury in 11th house alongwith the 12th lord Sun.

The 10th house of the Rasi Chart is with directionally strong Mars.

The 10th lord of the Navamsa Chart is Venus placed in 7th house of utility.

The 10th house of Navamsa Chart having 9th lord philosophical Mercury.

The 10th lord of D10(dasamsa chart) Saturn in 7th house alongwith 6th lord of question Venus and 6th house being occupied by Rahu gives the native enormous thrust on concentrating on practical aspects of life.

The second lord of the dasamsa chart placed in 3rd house with 3rd lord Moon who in Rasi Chart is placed in the 2nd house of intelligence and foresight endows the native with extra-ordinary practical wisdom and foresight into things. Hope all these god-gifted wisdom and foresight would be optimally used without their dissipitation through too much of uncontrollable emotional urge to put each and every bit of wisdom into commonly expressible and graspable form – a philosophy or theory !

Note that the Atmakaraka Moon is placed in the 2nd house and 9th to it i.e. in the place of advisor is placed the directionally strong Mars in the constellation of Rahu exalted in the house of theory/philosophy !

Let us hope the in the tug of emotional wars, the Atmakarak finally wins cutting all the hazes of confusion and enters into the undisturbed and unfathomable depth in the sea of ultimate wisdom.

June 27, 2007

Dear friends,

Placed below my few lines on the matter.

Having faith and conviction on the existing or accepted social,

religious as well as scientific values in the proper perspectives

depends upon the good disposition and strength of the 9th lords and

the overall cumulative influences on the 9th house of the natal

chart. Having weaker or afflicted 9th lord or 9th house having

influenced by the natural malefics would show either improper

import or grasp of these values resulting in lack of conviction and

confidence in these value systems.

Going deep into the formative theory and perceptions of these values-

how they work, what are their basic purpose of existence as per law

of nature, why should not we dis-belive them, put them to logical/

scientific test in a manner rational generally acceptable to all

etc. are undoubtedly the workings of the sixth house of the natal

chart. The sixth house lord well disposited and the sixth house

well influenced, the native gets the ability and chance to peep into

the secrets of these values systems, their formations, purpose and

coherence with the organic or universal law of nature. Happening

otherwise, the native only enjoys the intellectual exercise of

criticizing one and all systems and values here and there, but never

able to clearly understand the intricacies that baffles his

intelligence and rational analysis of the various happenings and the

underlying organic law of nature, its coherence and purposeful

existence in relation to human life. Thereby although the individual

may be gifted the extraordinary intellgence of breaking into a

existing systems/belief he is quite unable to integrate his/her own

self alongwith the happenings of the day to day mundane as well as

his emotional life.

As we know all the mundane day to day activities of practical nature

as well as `practicalness' of things are ruled by the 10th lord,

10th house and the mater of fact and most non-philosophical planet

Mars.

In the rasi chart above, please see the position of the 9th lord,

9th house and 6th lord and 6th house.

The 9th house is occupied by exalted Rahu- thereby giving the native

an exceptionally good understanding of the various value systems and

its purposefulness in relation to the environmental factors

(exaltation in rasi). However the rasi dispositor venus being placed

in 12th house indicates perpetual struggle in individual/ personal

life to integrate the mundane wisdom acquired by Rahu- to be put

into practical personal use.

The emotional limitations:- The Rahu is placed in the star of Mars

and sub of Saturn. Mars being lord of 3rd and 8 placed in the 10th

house in the house of enemy mercury with directional strength

inspite of its vigorous activity and involvement of practical and

rational nature still dissipiates much of its output to lack of

focus and clarity in expressions of the hard earned wisdom.

However, the exalted Saturn being the Yogakaraka planet for virgo

placed in the 2nd house of foresight trying hard to keep the overtly

practical looking but impulsive mars under harness, the unintended

cooperation extended by the Saturnine sign dispositor Venus to the

Mars- shows the –unfavourableness of the environmental/ external

factors-putting Saturn to extra hard work for planning and

management of thoughts, ideas and expressions- to building a theory !

Practical ness:-

The 10th lord of the Rasi Chart Mercury in 11th house alongwith the

12th lord Sun.

The 10th house of the Rasi Chart is with directionally strong Mars.

The 10th lord of the Navamsa Chart is Venus placed in 7th house of

utility.

The 10th house of Navamsa Chart having 9th lord philosophical

Mercury.

The 10th lord of D10(dasamsa chart) Saturn in 7th house alongwith

6th lord of question Venus and 6th house being occupied by Rahu

gives the native enormous thrust on concentrating on practical

aspects of life.

The second lord of the dasamsa chart placed in 3rd house with 3rd

lord Moon who in Rasi Chart is placed in the 2nd house of

intelligence and foresight endows the native with extra-ordinary

practical wisdom and foresight into things. Hope all these god-

gifted wisdom and foresight would be optimally used without their

dissipitation through too much of uncontrollable emotional urge to

put each and every bit of wisdom into commonly expressible and

graspable form – a philosophy or theory !

Note that the Atmakaraka Moon is placed in the 2nd house and 9th to

it i.e. in the place of advisor is placed the directionally strong

Mars in the constellation of Rahu exalted in the house of

theory/philosophy !

Let us hope the in the tug of emotional wars, the Atmakarak finally

wins cutting all the hazes of confusion and enters into the

undisturbed and unfathomable depth in the sea of ultimate wisdom.

With best wishes and regard to all,

Mrutyunjay

June 27, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sri Tripathi,

Perhaps it is typo but Rahu in Taurus is not in exaltation!! Its sign of exaltation is Mithuna.

Regards

Sharat

> The 9th house is occupied by exalted Rahu- thereby giving the native > an exceptionally good understanding of the various value systems and > its purposefulness in relation to the environmental factors> (exaltation in rasi).

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