Here is chart of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation - For Ramadas ji

June 28, 2007

N

amskarm Rafal ji

Missing one more things he is born on Tuesday (Ghat day for you )and Paka lagna is in grip of Shani which has a power to debilitate guru,,his dhi will work on this way only ..........and on other side you are born on navmi Ghata tithi for Tarun how can we can avoid this ...........what do you say ....?

Nothing personal only Joytish

regardAmit puriOn 28/06/07, Rafal Gendarz <

starsuponme wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Jyotishas

In Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break -

doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani.

Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting

in 9H in D9.

Tarun's chart:

July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rafal Gendarz napisa³(a):

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta

January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

" Note

that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered

a cursed

period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya

that

the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya

on any of

these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial

distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the

only way

out of this mess in guru's life. "

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long

time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological

views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will

take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted

that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i

disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself

correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological

analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science

subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from

the

parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following

this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous

guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your threads,

and

i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the direction

of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, " Rafal " <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to

this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka

or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack

of

faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is

against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four times

per

Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali

or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its

not

possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles and

have

good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like

.....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, " vedicastro_ mind "

> > <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for

Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating

with

you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS

for

rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play

with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to control

your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making

a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you now

on

this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier that

You

took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and

You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for my

well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for

the

guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish,

let

us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted

by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do with

my

pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting only

one

chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the

time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating

me,

but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow

anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya,

but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially

when

one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have

Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru

is

sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a

guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh

dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in life

:-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake

,

that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes

one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets

are

sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and

venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house, then

he

was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real profession

of

the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher,

if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college;

First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed

his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business, and

then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as consultant.

Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession, always

one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question are '

humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how you

chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 28, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Amit,

#1Sarbaniji said we should use specifically Lagna-Ghatak for this kind

of relation.

#2 Paka Lagna in grip of Shani...You mean Pakesha or Sani-Drsti or?

Tarun's Lagnesh is in kona to Guru so its wellplaced. 5L is also

exalted so this also favours Him. This Rahu aspecting Guru (curse/kmy)

and aspecting Badhak with A6 is real problem. Rahu is in ninth both in

D1 and D9.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Amit Puri napisa³(a):

N

amskarm Rafal ji

Missing one more things he is born on Tuesday

(Ghat day for you )and Paka lagna is in grip of Shani which has a power

to debilitate guru,,his dhi will work on this way only ..........and on

other side you are born on navmi Ghata tithi for Tarun how can we can

avoid this ...........what do you say ....?

Nothing personal only Joytish

regard

Amit puri

On 28/06/07, Rafal Gendarz <

starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Jyotishas

In Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break -

doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani.

Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting

in 9H in D9.

Tarun's chart:

Date: July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

Rafal Gendarz napisa³(a):

hraum

namah adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptatio n Muhurta

Date: January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

"Note

that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered

a cursed

period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya

that

the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya

on any of

these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If

the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial

distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the

only way

out of this mess in guru's life."

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long

time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his

astrological

views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will

take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted

that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail

where i

disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved

myself

correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological

analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for

science

subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she

from

the

parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following

this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous

guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your

threads,

and

i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the

direction

of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@

....>

wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more

to

this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is

Atmakaraka

or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and

lack

of

faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence

is

against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four

times

per

Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali

or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way

its

not

possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles

and

have

good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these

things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like

.....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, "vedicastro_ mind"

> > <vedicastro_ mind@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad

for

Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not

debating

with

you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic

situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and

MKS

for

rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your

court.Play

with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to

control

your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making

a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you

now

on

this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007

11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier

that

You

took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete

and

You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for

my

well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru

for

the

guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to

jyotish,

let

us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted

by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do

with

my

pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting

only

one

chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of

the

time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not

dominating

me,

but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow

anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya,

but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating,

especially

when

one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which

have

Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent

me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and

guru

is

sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be

a

guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then

budh

dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in

life

:-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my

mistake

,

that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also

makes

one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3

planets

are

sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha ,

and

venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house,

then

he

was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real

profession

of

the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59

PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of

female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher,

if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college;

First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed

his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business,

and

then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as

consultant.

Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession,

always

one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question

are '

humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how

you

chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 28, 2007

Namskar Rafal jithanks for reply ....yes i mean with paka lagna lord moon only 12th from guru in mks,,i think we should not avoid agni tatta mean Vara when it is Tuesday..and on other side jala tattwa is involved... what do you say...

regard Amit puriOn 28/06/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Amit,

#1Sarbaniji said we should use specifically Lagna-Ghatak for this kind

of relation.

#2 Paka Lagna in grip of Shani...You mean Pakesha or Sani-Drsti or?

Tarun's Lagnesh is in kona to Guru so its wellplaced. 5L is also

exalted so this also favours Him. This Rahu aspecting Guru (curse/kmy)

and aspecting Badhak with A6 is real problem. Rahu is in ninth both in

D1 and D9.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Amit Puri napisa³(a):

N

amskarm Rafal ji

Missing one more things he is born on Tuesday

(Ghat day for you )and Paka lagna is in grip of Shani which has a power

to debilitate guru,,his dhi will work on this way only ..........and on

other side you are born on navmi Ghata tithi for Tarun how can we can

avoid this ...........what do you say ....?

Nothing personal only Joytish

regard

Amit puri

On 28/06/07, Rafal Gendarz <

starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Jyotishas

In Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break -

doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani.

Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting

in 9H in D9.

Tarun's chart:

July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

Rafal Gendarz napisa³(a):

hraum

namah adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptatio n Muhurta

January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

" Note

that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered

a cursed

period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya

that

the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya

on any of

these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If

the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial

distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the

only way

out of this mess in guru's life. "

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long

time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his

astrological

views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will

take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted

that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail

where i

disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved

myself

correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological

analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for

science

subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she

from

the

parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following

this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous

guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your

threads,

and

i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the

direction

of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, " Rafal " <starsuponme@

....>

wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more

to

this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is

Atmakaraka

or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and

lack

of

faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence

is

against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four

times

per

Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali

or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way

its

not

possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles

and

have

good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these

things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like

.....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, " vedicastro_ mind "

> > <vedicastro_ mind@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad

for

Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not

debating

with

you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic

situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and

MKS

for

rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your

court.Play

with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to

control

your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making

a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you

now

on

this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007

11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier

that

You

took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete

and

You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for

my

well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru

for

the

guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to

jyotish,

let

us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted

by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do

with

my

pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting

only

one

chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of

the

time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not

dominating

me,

but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow

anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya,

but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating,

especially

when

one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which

have

Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent

me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and

guru

is

sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be

a

guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then

budh

dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in

life

:-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my

mistake

,

that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also

makes

one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3

planets

are

sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha ,

and

venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house,

then

he

was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real

profession

of

the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59

PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of

female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher,

if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college;

First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed

his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business,

and

then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as

consultant.

Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession,

always

one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question

are '

humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how

you

chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 28, 2007

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, Muhurta Lagna itself is afflicted by Shani Vakra,thus afflicting 7th house also.8th house is occupied by Rahu.In initiation of any Mantra,8th house should be unoccupied.Nakshatra on that day was Shravana which becomes Vadha tara for Tarun's Janma Nakshatra Vishaka.Yoga was Vajra which is not desirable.Nakshatra Nadika was Chitra indicating grief.Tithi was Shukla Paksha Prathama and Chandra lost Paksha Bala.So overall Muhurta itself is very bad and it is not good for the Jyotisha also.So you have to perform the remedy as mentioned by Sanjay Ji. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear JyotishasIn Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break - doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani. Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting in 9H in D9.Tarun's chart: July 19, 1983Time: 10:35:00Time

Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRafal Gendarz napisa³(a): hraum namah adityayaDear Ramadas, JyotishasEx-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta January 19,

2007Time: 17:50:48Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"Tithi: Shukla Pratipad Sanjay Rath:"Note that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a cursed period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life."Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Ajay ji, I thought that this thread is finished but .. anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member. and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time. I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his

astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that. and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too. In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too. I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it. Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone. Regards, Tarun - AJAY ASTRO sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts Om Guruve Namah Dear Tarun, Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)? I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru. Best Regards AJAY ASTRO ajayzharotia@ gmail.com On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun

wrote: Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa@ .com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka

is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal

Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "vedicastro_ mind" > > <vedicastro_

mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote:> > >

>> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > >

> > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against

Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting

me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of

GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially

when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-)

> > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > >

> > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > >

> Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > >

> > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the

quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >>

>>

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June 28, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadasji,

Yes, I knew it was bad, but then my emotions/empathy won which was

wrong.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Ramadas Rao napisał(a):

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Rafal,

Muhurta Lagna itself is afflicted by Shani

Vakra,thus afflicting 7th house also.8th house is occupied by Rahu.In

initiation of any Mantra,8th house should be unoccupied.Nakshatra

on that day was Shravana which becomes Vadha tara for Tarun's Janma

Nakshatra Vishaka.Yoga was Vajra which is not desirable.Nakshatra

Nadika was Chitra indicating grief.Tithi was Shukla Paksha Prathama and

Chandra lost Paksha Bala.So overall Muhurta itself is very bad and it

is not good for the Jyotisha also.So you have to perform the remedy as

mentioned by Sanjay Ji.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah

adityaya

Dear Jyotishas

In Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break -

doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani.

Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting

in 9H in D9.

Tarun's chart:

July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rafal Gendarz napisa³(a):

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta

January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

"Note that

the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a

cursed period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the

dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru

takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of

Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life."

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his

astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware

that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt

objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where

i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved

myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do

it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for

science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she

from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his

previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your

threads, and i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the

direction of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more

to this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is

Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and

lack of faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence

is against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four

times per Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way

its not possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles

and have good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these

things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like ....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, "vedicastro_ mind"

> > <vedicastro_ mind@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad

for Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not

debating with you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic

situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and

MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your

court.Play with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to

control your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you

now on this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007

11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier

that You took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete

and You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for

my well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru

for the guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to

jyotish, let us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do

with my pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting

only one chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of

the time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not

dominating me, but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya, but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating,

especially when one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which

have Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent

me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and

guru is sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be

a guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then

budh dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in

life :-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my

mistake , that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also

makes one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3

planets are sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha ,

and venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house,

then he was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real

profession of the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59

PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of

female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher, if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college; First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business,

and then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as

consultant. Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession,

always one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question

are ' humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how

you chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Answers

June 28, 2007

Hare Rama Krsna : : Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah Dear Ramdasji and Rafalji, Can anybody please guide me as to how does one see the unordained muhurata timing of deciding a shishya, as in what moment. There is a moment when Shishya wrote a mail probably to the Guru , and than there is a reply back from Guru after some discussions. or is it the moment when shishya decided to do the first round of mala of parampara mantra?

Also when the shishya decides to take a guru, she/he has not much knowledge regarding muhurata's, should Guru at this point not decide time accordingly to write back to shisya after finding a good muhurta for their convenience , so that there is no discomfort in future. i think once a Guru, always a Guru than u may have arguments debates, debacles. U can chose to have as many Gurus, But Knowledge Remains One and Infinite, which is what we all should be pious towards.Thanks in advance. Swatzilina On 6/29/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadasji,

Yes, I knew it was bad, but then my emotions/empathy won which was

wrong.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Ramadas Rao napisaù(a):

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Rafal,

Muhurta Lagna itself is afflicted by Shani

Vakra,thus afflicting 7th house also.8th house is occupied by Rahu.In

initiation of any Mantra,8th house should be unoccupied.Nakshatra

on that day was Shravana which becomes Vadha tara for Tarun's Janma

Nakshatra Vishaka.Yoga was Vajra which is not desirable.Nakshatra

Nadika was Chitra indicating grief.Tithi was Shukla Paksha Prathama and

Chandra lost Paksha Bala.So overall Muhurta itself is very bad and it

is not good for the Jyotisha also.So you have to perform the remedy as

mentioned by Sanjay Ji.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

hraum namah

adityaya

Dear Jyotishas

In Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break -

doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani.

Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting

in 9H in D9.

Tarun's chart:

July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rafal Gendarz napisa³(a):

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta

January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00 " , 50 N 13' 00 "

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

" Note that

the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a

cursed period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the

dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru

takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of

Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life. "

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his

astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware

that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt

objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where

i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved

myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do

it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for

science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she

from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his

previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your

threads, and i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the

direction of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, " Rafal " <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more

to this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is

Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and

lack of faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence

is against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four

times per Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way

its not possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles

and have good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these

things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like ....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, " vedicastro_ mind "

> > <vedicastro_ mind@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad

for Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not

debating with you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic

situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and

MKS for rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your

court.Play with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to

control your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you

now on this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007

11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier

that You took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete

and You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for

my well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru

for the guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to

jyotish, let us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do

with my pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting

only one chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00 " , 26 N 17' 00 "

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of

the time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not

dominating me, but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya, but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating,

especially when one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which

have Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent

me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and

guru is sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be

a guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then

budh dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in

life :-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my

mistake , that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also

makes one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3

planets are sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha ,

and venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house,

then he was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real

profession of the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59

PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of

female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher, if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college; First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business,

and then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as

consultant. Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession,

always one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question

are ' humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how

you chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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June 29, 2007

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Swati, There may be a number of times a Guru -Shishya discussions may take place either by phone or through e mails but for initiating any Mantras or any such religious purposes,a good Muhurta has to be selected by the Guru.As you said a Guru is a Guru but at the same time he should aware of the principles of Muhurta and which Nakshatra is good for which purpose etc.So while studying Jyotish, Muhurta comes 1st,then Mantra and then study.On a good Muhurta if a Shishya starts chanting Guru Mantra and start learning Jyotish or any other vidyas,then certainly he/she will learn it very quickly and gain a good name in the society.So Pancha Angas are more important in deciding a proper Muhurta ie., Nakshatra, Tithi,Vara,Yoga,Karana.Also a Muhurta is 2 Ghatikas ie., 48

minutes of time, we can further tune the auspicious time to Nadika which is 1 Ghatika or 24 minutes of time.So this means it is the Nadika which finally is more important in deciding a Muhurta's auspiciousness. With Shri Hari vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. healing spaces <healingspaces wrote: Hare Rama Krsna : : Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah Dear Ramdasji and Rafalji, Can anybody

please guide me as to how does one see the unordained muhurata timing of deciding a shishya, as in what moment. There is a moment when Shishya wrote a mail probably to the Guru , and than there is a reply back from Guru after some discussions. or is it the moment when shishya decided to do the first round of mala of parampara mantra? Also when the shishya decides to take a guru, she/he has not much knowledge regarding muhurata's, should Guru at this point not decide time accordingly to write back to shisya after finding a good muhurta for their convenience , so that there is no discomfort in future. i think once a Guru, always a Guru than u may have arguments debates, debacles. U can chose to have as many Gurus, But Knowledge Remains One and Infinite, which is what we all should be pious towards.Thanks in advance. Swatzilina On 6/29/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Ramadasji,Yes, I knew it was bad, but then my emotions/empathy won which was wrong.Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRamadas Rao napisaù(a): OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, Muhurta Lagna itself is afflicted by Shani Vakra,thus afflicting 7th house also.8th house is occupied by Rahu.In initiation of any Mantra,8th house should be unoccupied.Nakshatra on that day was Shravana which becomes Vadha tara for Tarun's Janma Nakshatra Vishaka.Yoga was Vajra which is not desirable.Nakshatra Nadika was Chitra indicating grief.Tithi was Shukla Paksha Prathama and Chandra lost Paksha Bala.So overall Muhurta itself is very bad and it is not good for the Jyotisha also.So you have to perform the remedy as mentioned by Sanjay Ji. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas

Rao. Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear JyotishasIn Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break - doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani. Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting in 9H in D9.Tarun's chart: July 19, 1983Time: 10:35:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00" Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center

Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.comRafal Gendarz napisa³(a): hraum namah adityayaDear Ramadas, JyotishasEx-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta January 19, 2007Time: 17:50:48Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"Tithi: Shukla Pratipad Sanjay

Rath:"Note that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a cursed period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life."Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Ajay ji, I thought that this thread is finished but .. anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member. and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time. I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that. and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too. In this thread ,

i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too. I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it. Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone. Regards, Tarun - AJAY ASTRO sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM Re: Re: Which planets for

science subjects -- Charts Om Guruve Namah Dear Tarun, Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)? I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru. Best Regards AJAY ASTRO ajayzharotia@ gmail.com On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote: Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from

another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa@ .com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in

9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "vedicastro_ mind" > > <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic

situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > >

> and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > >

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > >

> Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > >

Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my

Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and

guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > >

point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i

sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > >

> > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. >

> > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, '

quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php

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