Here is chart of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation - For Ramadas ji

June 28, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Jyotishas

In Muhurta chart eight bhava is occupied by Rahu (cause of break -

doubts/lack of faith) and Lagna by Sani.

Its also noteworthy to see Moola Dasa: Rahu-Rahu-Jupiter - all sitting

in 9H in D9.

Tarun's chart:

July 19, 1983

Time: 10:35:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rafal Gendarz napisał(a):

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta

January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

"Note

that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered

a cursed

period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya

that

the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya

on any of

these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial

distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the

only way

out of this mess in guru's life."

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

~Tarun~ napisał(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long

time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological

views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will

take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted

that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i

disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself

correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological

analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science

subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from

the

parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following

this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous

guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your threads,

and

i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the direction

of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to

this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka

or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack

of

faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is

against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four times

per

Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali

or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its

not

possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles and

have

good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like

.....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, "vedicastro_ mind"

> > <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for

Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating

with

you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS

for

rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play

with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to control

your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making

a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you now

on

this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier that

You

took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and

You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for my

well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for

the

guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish,

let

us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted

by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do with

my

pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting only

one

chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the

time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating

me,

but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow

anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya,

but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially

when

one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have

Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru

is

sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a

guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh

dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in life

:-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake

,

that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes

one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets

are

sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and

venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house, then

he

was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real profession

of

the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher,

if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college;

First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed

his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business, and

then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as consultant.

Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession, always

one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question are '

humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how you

chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

June 28, 2007

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH Dear Rafal, It is written in the fate of Tarun that he has to take the initiation during this bad period.Already Sanjay Ji has given his comments,so I dont want to tell any more. So please take care in initiation of Shishya.Please go through Muhurta Chintamani or any other Muhurta classics. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: hraum namah adityayaDear Ramadas, JyotishasEx-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta January 19, 2007Time: 17:50:48Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"Tithi: Shukla Pratipad Sanjay Rath:"Note that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a cursed period and only

when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life."Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a): Dear Ajay ji, I thought that this thread is finished but .. anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member. and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time. I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that. and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too. In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too. I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it. Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone. Regards, Tarun - AJAY ASTRO sohamsa@ .com Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts Om Guruve Namah Dear Tarun, Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)? I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru. Best Regards AJAY ASTRO ajayzharotia@ gmail.com On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote: Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on

heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa@ .com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all

rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So

senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "vedicastro_ mind" > > <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th

bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna >

> as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets

for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > >

email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > >

to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > >

Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal

Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or

teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i>

> > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > >

Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,>

> > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' !

> > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

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June 28, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Ramadasji,

Yes, defenitely I will.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Ramadas Rao napisał(a):

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Rafal,

It is written in the fate of Tarun that he

has to take the initiation during this bad period.Already Sanjay Ji has

given his comments,so I dont want to tell any more.

So please take care in initiation of

Shishya.Please go through Muhurta Chintamani or any other Muhurta

classics.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah

adityaya

Dear Ramadas, Jyotishas

Ex-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta

January 19, 2007

Time: 17:50:48

Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"

Tithi: Shukla Pratipad

Sanjay Rath:

"Note that

the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a

cursed period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the

dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru

takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the

Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and

financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of

Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life."

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite

long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological

views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will

take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted

that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i

disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved

myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's

astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do

it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was

discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for

science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from

the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is

following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his

previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,

Thanks for your kind words,

i will definately like to learn more from your threads,

and i will

be happy to do that too.

just the mails from another shishya changed the

direction of thread.

Donot take my words on heart.

Warm Regards,

Tarun

sohamsa@

..com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Tarun,

>

> #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to

this.There is an

> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is

Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka

is

> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and

lack of faith are

> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul.

Atmakaraka has

always

> predominance. This is the case with me and my

Gurudev.

>

> #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence

is against all

rules.

> Otherwise You could say that native has four times

per Month

> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is

Patanjali or Vasuki

> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its

not possible to

> justify this misguidance.

>

> I wish You to understand these few principles and

have good times

in

> Jyotish in future.

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> >

> > Dear Jim,

> >

> > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,

> >

> > He too have Rahu in 9th house.

> >

> > So dont take So senior person in these things.

> >

> > and i again say you jim ...why u always act

like ....cant

explain in

> > words.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Tarun

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com, "vedicastro_ mind"

> > <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad

for Guruji!!!

> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating

with you just he said

what

> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.

> > >

> > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS

for rahu is 9th!!!

> > >

> > > Good Luck now, ball is in your

court.Play with it or grin with

> > it!!!

> > >

> > > Jim.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@

..com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ >

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)

> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is

helping me.

> > > >

> > > > and my humber request you to

control your Rahu sitting in

Lagna

> > as

> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is

making a sun-

rahu...which is

> > not

> > > good for you.

> > > >

> > > > and i am closing debate with you

now on this topic.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01

AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

subjects -

> > -

> > > Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > You should talk to me earlier that

You took another

Jyotish

> > Guru

> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete

and You dare to say that

Your

> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your concern for my

well being and

> > suggesting me

> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for

the guidance as well.

> > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish,

let us discuss the

> > > profession / eductation of the charts

posted by me.

> > > > Those charts have nothing to do

with my pursuits visavis

> > > guidance from my guru.

> > > >

> > > > for your concern i am posting only

one chart again, so

that

> > you

> > > can answer this one atleast.

> > > >

> > > > 1) Male chart

> > > > October 30, 1961

> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"

> > > > Jodhpur, India

> > > >

> > > > donot worry abt the exactness of

the time.

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating

me, but it is helping

me

> > to

> > > explore astrology more deeply as not

follow anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > PS - Please remove me from your

shishyas list , so i am

not

> > > again dominated by you.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for science

> > subjects

> > > -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > hraum namah adityaya

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Its completely against parampara

vidya, but seems that

this

> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially

when one starts in

Ashtami.

> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have

Rahu in first /

ninth.

> > Surely

> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a):

> > > >

> > > > hii Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence

brother.

> > > >

> > > > in the first chart which u sent

me...

> > > > i looked at dasha first.

> > > >

> > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and

guru is sitting with

> > saturn,

> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a

guru.or teacher. and

born

> > in

> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in

effect of that planet.

> > > >

> > > > and later on as u said teacher to

principal ...this

due

> > to

> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then

budh dasha , which is

again

> > good.

> > > > so she saw a upside movement in

life :-)

> > > >

> > > > and in second chart. born on

13/03/1957

> > > >

> > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my

mistake , that i

forgot to

> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also

makes one doctor, i

thought

> > but i

> > > missed doctor profesion.)

> > > >

> > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets

are sitting in

5th

> > house.

> > > > In 5th house these planets make a

combination of

Quality

> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha ,

and venus conjuct to

sun, he

> > got

> > > a chance for medical.

> > > >

> > > > if the same was in 11th house, then

he was an

> > architect :-)

> > > >

> > > > abt the answers for real profession

of the charts i

sent

> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer

first.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tarun

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Sharat

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > >

> > > > Please read below, you were close.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > ~Tarun~

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM

> > > > Re: Re: Which

planets for

science

> > > subjects -- Charts

> > > >

> > > > >>The first chart of female.

> > > > My conculsion is that she is a

teacher, if working

> > > otherwise a housewife.

> > > >

> > > > **Working ever since finishing

college; First as

> > Teacher,

> > > later as Head and Principal

> > > >

> > > > >>About the male chart

> > > > I concluded that he might have

changed his

professions

> > > several times.

> > > > initaly he should be in business,

and then turned

upto

> > a

> > > consultant and now working as

consultant. Who checks the

quality of

> > > product.

> > > >

> > > > **Never changed profession, always

one.. Doctor,

higly

> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of

product' is a very

interesting

> > > observation, the product in question are

' humans' !

> > > >

> > > > Would be interesting to see how you

chose what you

did,

> > > perhaps different from what I chose.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sharat

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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June 28, 2007

Tarun seems to have created a controversy for nothing. Tarun please keep yourself away from this site.

Mike

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Ramadas Rao28 June 2007 22:09sohamsa Subject: Re: Here is chart of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation - For Ramadas ji

OM SHRI RAGHAVENDRAAYA NAMAH

OM SHRI LAKSHMI NRUSIMHAAYA NAMAH

Dear Rafal,

It is written in the fate of Tarun that he has to take the initiation during this bad period.Already Sanjay Ji has given his comments,so I dont want to tell any more.

So please take care in initiation of Shishya.Please go through Muhurta Chintamani or any other Muhurta classics.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

hraum namah adityayaDear Ramadas, JyotishasEx-Sisya-Acceptation Muhurta January 19, 2007Time: 17:50:48Time Zone: 1:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 18 E 40' 00", 50 N 13' 00"Tithi: Shukla Pratipad Sanjay Rath:"Note that the period from Krsna Chaturdasi to Sukla Pratipada is considered a cursed period and only when the Moon begins to show its face from the dwiteeya that the curse is lifted. It is for this reason that no Guru takes a sisya on any of these days i.e. K14, K15 and S01 Tithi's....If the Sisya comes on Sukla Pratipada, then the Guru suffers penury and financial distress as this tithi is ruled by the Sun. Worship of Lakshmi is the only way out of this mess in guru's life."Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

Dear Ajay ji,

I thought that this thread is finished but ..

anyways, my current guru is not a SJC Member.

and my current Guru is not my new Guru , he is from quite long time.

I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that.

and can u please provide me some cuttings of my mail where i disrespect Rafal ji, if he was calm with me too.

In this thread , i shared what i explored and i proved myself correct too.

I posted 2 charts in this thread abt the Sharat's astrological analysis according to parampara, but he was not able to do it.

Now few other persons jump in this thread , where i was discussing with Sharat and Rafal and no where i disrespect anyone.

Regards,

Tarun

-

AJAY ASTRO

sohamsa@ .com

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:16 PM

Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -- Charts

Om Guruve Namah

Dear Tarun,

Can I know the name of your current Guru? Is he/she from the parampara (SJC)?

I am very keen to know that if your present guru is following this thread and overseeing how his shisya is reacting to his previous guru.

Best Regards

AJAY ASTRO

ajayzharotia@ gmail.com

On 26-Jun-07, at 12:38 PM, Tarun wrote:

Dear Rafal ji,Thanks for your kind words,i will definately like to learn more from your threads, and i will be happy to do that too.just the mails from another shishya changed the direction of thread.Donot take my words on heart.Warm Regards,Tarunsohamsa@ .com, "Rafal" <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> hraum namah adityaya> Dear Tarun,> > #1 Its not so easy. I was taught few rules more to this.There is an> exception. If Rahu/Sani sitting in 1/9 is Atmakaraka or Atmakaraka is> sitting in Kona, then thoughts of rebelion and lack of faith are> mitigated by sincere effort from depth of soul. Atmakaraka has always> predominance. This is the case with me and my Gurudev.> > #2 Gochara doesnt set the yoga, so Your sentence is against all rules.> Otherwise You could say that native has four times per Month> Gajakesari by Indu-Gochar. Surya-Rahu Yog is Patanjali or Vasuki> Yoga, when Jupiter is strong, so even this way its not possible to> justify this misguidance. > > I wish You to understand these few principles and have good times in> Jyotish in future.> > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > Dear Jim,> > > > you are pointing Honourable Guru Visti ji,> > > > He too have Rahu in 9th house.> > > > So dont take So senior person in these things.> > > > and i again say you jim ...why u always act like ....cant explain in > > words.> > > > Regards,> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "vedicastro_ mind" > > <vedicastro_ mind@> wrote:> > >> > > Don't worry about what is good and bad for Guruji!!!> > > And just hold on Guruji is not debating with you just he said what> > > needs to be done in idealistic situation.> > > > > > Malefics in 9th bring durbhagya and MKS for rahu is 9th!!!> > > > > > Good Luck now, ball is in your court.Play with it or grin with > > it!!!> > > > > > Jim.> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "~Tarun~" <tarun.virgo@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > I dont want to debate with you :-)> > > > and yes I DARE to say my rahu is helping me.> > > > > > > > and my humber request you to control your Rahu sitting in Lagna > > as> > > sun is in ur Lagna in transit. and is making a sun-rahu...which is > > not> > > good for you.> > > > > > > > > > > > and i am closing debate with you now on this topic.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Tarun> > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:01 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science subjects -> > -> > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya> > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > You should talk to me earlier that You took another Jyotish > > Guru> > > after me. Its against Vedic Ettiquete and You dare to say that Your> > > Rahu in ninth is helping You!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your concern for my well being and > > suggesting me> > > guru mantra. I will consult my guru for the guidance as well. > > > > Meanwhile - coming back to jyotish, let us discuss the> > > profession / eductation of the charts posted by me. > > > > Those charts have nothing to do with my pursuits visavis> > > guidance from my guru. > > > > > > > > > > > > for your concern i am posting only one chart again, so that > > you> > > can answer this one atleast. > > > > > > > > 1) Male chart > > > > October 30, 1961> > > > Time: 10:45:00 pm> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 73 E 01' 00", 26 N 17' 00"> > > > Jodhpur, India > > > > > > > > donot worry abt the exactness of the time. > > > > > > > > Rafal ji my Rahu is not dominating me, but it is helping me > > to> > > explore astrology more deeply as not follow anything blindly. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > PS - Please remove me from your shishyas list , so i am not> > > again dominated by you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:10 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science > > subjects> > > -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > hraum namah adityaya > > > > > > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Its completely against parampara vidya, but seems that this> > > Rahu in ninth is dominating, especially when one starts in Ashtami.> > > Guruji warned me about sisyas which have Rahu in first / ninth. > > Surely> > > they should do tons of Guru mantras.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tarun~ napisal(a): > > > > > > > > hii Sharat, > > > > > > > > Thanks for boosting my confidence brother. > > > > > > > > in the first chart which u sent me... > > > > i looked at dasha first. > > > > > > > > she had Guru dasha in 1985. and guru is sitting with > > saturn,> > > so both are forming strong yoga to be a guru.or teacher. and born > > in> > > 1961 so upto that dasha she must be in effect of that planet. > > > > > > > > and later on as u said teacher to principal ...this due > > to> > > saturn dasha. which is good and then budh dasha , which is again > > good. > > > > so she saw a upside movement in life :-) > > > > > > > > and in second chart. born on 13/03/1957 > > > > > > > > Saturn mars are opposite ( my mistake , that i forgot to> > > point that saturn-mars opposite also makes one doctor, i thought > > but i> > > missed doctor profesion.) > > > > > > > > surya budh shukra - these 3 planets are sitting in 5th > > house. > > > > In 5th house these planets make a combination of Quality> > > checker, and due to his venus dasha , and venus conjuct to sun, he > > got> > > a chance for medical. > > > > > > > > if the same was in 11th house, then he was an > > architect :-) > > > > > > > > abt the answers for real profession of the charts i sent> > > you...i am awaitn for rafal's answer first. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sharat > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 9:59 PM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Tarun,> > > > > > > > Please read below, you were close.> > > > > > > > - > > > > ~Tarun~ > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > Monday, June 25, 2007 11:45 AM> > > > Re: Re: Which planets for science> > > subjects -- Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > >>The first chart of female. > > > > My conculsion is that she is a teacher, if working> > > otherwise a housewife. > > > > > > > > **Working ever since finishing college; First as > > Teacher,> > > later as Head and Principal > > > > > > > > > > > > >>About the male chart > > > > I concluded that he might have changed his professions> > > several times.> > > > initaly he should be in business, and then turned upto > > a> > > consultant and now working as consultant. Who checks the quality of> > > product.> > > > > > > > **Never changed profession, always one.. Doctor, higly> > > specialised Consultant, ' quality of product' is a very interesting> > > observation, the product in question are ' humans' ! > > > > > > > > Would be interesting to see how you chose what you did,> > > perhaps different from what I chose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Sharat> > > >> > >> >>

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