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Dear Members,

 

I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri Rafal ji,

The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian Standard Timings.

 

I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my Dasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

 

Please give little time to read whole conversation.

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello RafalTarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im finejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility readingTarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my sitejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time backjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): wwwTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa.comTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and views on it.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kooljyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra tableTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced itTarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming professional astrologer Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DCTarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM): jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once moreTarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): okTarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but i think its impossible in forums to learn Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics behind everything.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is neededTarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to explore.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology. but unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): tooTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in India or from poland itself.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): polandTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is linkjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpagejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandhajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yesTarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good articleTarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definately it is going to be good.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM): jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admitTarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be my guru in astrology..but was afraid .Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little moreTarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of your website. too.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be doneTarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all search engines along with my websites too. Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come up in top in google and and msn.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a domain www.vedic-jyotish.netTarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterdayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm okTarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going to use that.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see okTarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya then there is no problem in thatTarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months to come up.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but 2 siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa or something like thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhereTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise it...means you have to give keywords in the title barjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitation in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taughtTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Your photo in my sisyas categoryyTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sirTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to youTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to doTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation is long time backjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little informal but stillTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal your full name / date of birth / chart / photoTarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddha in kendra.good muhurta.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): greatTarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in right time.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahuratTarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo toojyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my is GeminiTarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Greatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send itTarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writing that mail to youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): okTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting Youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days agoTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really gladjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continueTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM): Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now. Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to understand....to read few times to understand.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with my Guruji Visijyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in gemini and cancer.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of RahuTarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can say me..no problem you are after all my Guru nowjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is importantTarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sake of knowledge reception.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my Karma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles....including job, money, personal life...all sorts of problemsTarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot buy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currentlyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i seeTarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest in astrologyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill see your chart in more details ok?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to understand astrologyTarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked you....it was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhereTarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You livingjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): JohdpurTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): JodhpurTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): IndiTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): indiaTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in Indiajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its okjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.com/content/view/15/21/lang,en/Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alotjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topazjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphirejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra'sTarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasa mantrajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas dailyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad for vidyaTarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during all time with mejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sureTarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman alsojyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by doing Daan. or donation to cows.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curseTarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by VishnuTarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and guru curse this are worstjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from riseTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7 from ALTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies with wednesday fastingjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should helpTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercuryjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weakjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL brings moneyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no moneyTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmeshTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul tooTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good personjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM): Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...no venus in 12th effects.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is goodjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is badjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7HTarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is therejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect myself with external places. ..means out of my countryjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good info for me.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that Jagganath treat me as Gurujyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who You meetTarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu / sani period thats weird understand?Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true teachings.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teachesjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make strongerjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which representsjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that periodTarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail : rafalgenjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questionsjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): NamaskarTarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Tarun,

 

There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and one by

Brhaspati.

 

Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few things

from the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu as

Guru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha.

 

Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayed

emotionally.

 

In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, and

You also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that there was

no Guru-Sisya relationship.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

~Tarun~ napisał(a):

 

 

 

Dear

Members,

 

I am

posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri Rafal ji,

The time

and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian Standard Timings.

 

I have

bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my Dasha , which

Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

 

Please

give little time to read whole conversation.

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

Tarun

(1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility reading

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw

my chart?

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time

back

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa.com

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to

hear abt ur site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and views

on it.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i

added new nakshatra table

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i

announced it

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming professional

astrologer

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth

...but i think its impossible in forums to learn

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics

behind everything.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is

needed

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to

explore.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology. but

unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in India

or from poland itself.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is

link

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpage

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good

article

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than

definately it is going to be good.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and

admit

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to

be my guru in astrology..but was afraid .

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not

so busy

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of

your website. too.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see

what can be done

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all

search engines along with my websites too.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come up

in top in google and and msn.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a

domain www.vedic-jyotish.net

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just

bought it yesterday

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no

going to use that.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You

want to be sisya then there is no problem in that

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8

months to come up.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my

site its on google but 2 site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You

write gendarz rohinaa or something like that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise

it...means you have to give keywords in the title bar

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You

must know my limitation in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish

haven

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You

agree I will put Your photo in my sisyas categoryy

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM):

anyway our corespondation is long time back

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little informal

but still

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com your full name / date

of birth / chart / photo

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddha in kendra.good muhurta.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in right

time.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good

paraspara karaka - my is Gemini

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me

when You send it

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was

writing that mail to you

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im

putting You

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really

glad

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we

continue

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM):

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i

prefer mails for now.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to understand....to

read few times to understand.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i

also prefer this with my Guruji Visi

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i

had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in

gemini and cancer.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you

can say me..no problem you are after all my Guru now

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no

problem. attitude is important

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and

attitude is only for sake of knowledge reception.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my Karma

stana...so give me all sorts of troubles....including job, money,

personal life...all sorts of problems

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot buy a

book even. ...i am not self dependant currently

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest

in astrology

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get

some time ill see your chart in more details ok?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to

understand astrology

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked you....it

was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save

this example somewhere

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are

You living

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now

its ok

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.com/content/view/15/21/lang,en/

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should

get topaz

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra's

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I

will give You vyasa mantra

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas daily

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad for

vidya

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you

must do during all time with me

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to

Hanuman also

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by doing

Daan. or donation to cows.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will

alleviate this curse

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu

in ninth and guru curse this are worst

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because

influencing AL and 7 from AL

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these

two remedies with wednesday fasting

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact

mercury should be weak

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha

weak in 3 from AL brings money

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are

spirital and good person

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM):

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual

....no venus in 12th effects.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in

12H is good

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is

there

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect myself

with external places. ..means out of my country

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM):

but Sani-Guru-Guru is good info for me.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that Jagganath

treat me as Guru

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who You

meet

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You

meet Guru's in rahu / sani period thats weird understand?

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true

teachings.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti

teaches

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make

stronger

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru =

brhaspati or Siva.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM):

this is my mail : rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pl

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Tarun,

this putting the extract of your chat with Rafalji in front of the

public could be easily judged as a disgraceful for the idea of Guru-

Sisya parampara. It supposed to be the intimate conntact between Guru

and Sisya.

It does not tell us anything about Rafalji that we didn`t know or

that he didn`t say about himself already. Honestly, i can only admire

his moderate and wise replies to you. As he said, his and all

mortals` knowledge is limited and we are bound to make mistakes. His

only mistake here was accepting you as a Sisya and that would not be

the problem, as Jagannath`s Mercy is unlimited, if you had done

remedial measures he gave you.

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

sohamsa , " ~Tarun~ " <tarun.virgo wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri

Rafal ji,

> The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian

Standard Timings.

>

> I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my

Dasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

>

> Please give little time to read whole conversation.

>

> Regards,

> Tarun

>

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM):

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility

reading

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time back

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa.com

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur site

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and

views on it.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra

table

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced it

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming

professional astrologer

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM):

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but i

think its impossible in forums to learn

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics

behind everything.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is needed

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to

explore.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology.

but unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in

India or from poland itself.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is link

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on

frontpage

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good article

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definately

it is going to be good.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM):

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admit

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be my

guru in astrology..but was afraid .

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busy

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of your

website. too.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be done

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all

search engines along with my websites too.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come

up in top in google and and msn.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a

domain www.vedic-jyotish.net

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterday

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going to

use that.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya then

there is no problem in that

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months

to come up.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student

Sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but

2 site

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa

or something like that

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise

it...means you have to give keywords in the title bar

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my

limitation in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Your

photo in my sisyas categoryy

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation is

long time back

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little

informal but still

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal

your full name / date of birth / chart / photo

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and

buddha in kendra.good muhurta.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in

right time.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my is

Gemini

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send it

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writing

that mail to you

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting You

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really glad

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continue

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM):

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for

now.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to

understand....to read few times to understand.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with

my Guruji Visi

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart

i had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in

gemini and cancer.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont

mind.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can

say me..no problem you are after all my Guru now

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is

important

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sake

of knowledge reception.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my

Karma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles....including job,

money, personal life...all sorts of problems

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot

buy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currently

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest in

astrology

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill see

your chart in more details ok?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to

understand astrology

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked

you....it was just my lagna time i.e 2'30 " ...and that was exact time

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhere

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You living

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its ok

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM):

http://www.rohinaa.com/content/view/15/21/lang,en/

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topaz

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru

mantra's

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasa

mantra

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas

daily

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad

for vidya

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during all

time with me

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman also

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by

doing Daan. or donation to cows.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curse

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and guru

curse this are worst

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7

from AL

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies with

wednesday fasting

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weak

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be

paid

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL

brings money

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good

person

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM):

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...no

venus in 12th effects.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is good

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is there

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect

myself with external places. ..means out of my country

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good

info for me.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that

Jagganath treat me as Guru

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who

You meet

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu /

sani period thats weird understand?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true

teachings.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teaches

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make

stronger

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail : rafalgen

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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Dear taruni will request stop this... Rafal ji is only one who is putting time and efforts for group this time and he is good teacher or guru there is no doubt in this .... and a guru is away or beyond from mahurta for his teaching and there must be lacking in your guru mantra otherwise what ever is happening was not possible. please stop this now and say sorry not to Guru to a Gentleman and good human who is always their to help any body..

Amit PuriOn 29/06/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Tarun,

 

There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and one by

Brhaspati.

 

Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few things

from the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu as

Guru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha.

 

Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayed

emotionally.

 

In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, and

You also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that there was

no Guru-Sisya relationship.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

~Tarun~ napisa³(a):

 

 

 

Dear

Members,

 

I am

posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri Rafal ji,

The time

and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian Standard Timings.

 

I have

bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my Dasha , which

Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

 

Please

give little time to read whole conversation.

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

Tarun

(1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility reading

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw

my chart?

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time

back

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa.com

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to

hear abt ur site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and views

on it.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i

added new nakshatra table

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i

announced it

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming professional

astrologer

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth

...but i think its impossible in forums to learn

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics

behind everything.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is

needed

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to

explore.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology. but

unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in India

or from poland itself.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is

link

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpage

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good

article

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than

definately it is going to be good.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and

admit

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to

be my guru in astrology..but was afraid .

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not

so busy

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of

your website. too.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see

what can be done

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all

search engines along with my websites too.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come up

in top in google and and msn.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a

domain www.vedic-jyotish.net

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just

bought it yesterday

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no

going to use that.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You

want to be sisya then there is no problem in that

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8

months to come up.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my

site its on google but 2 site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You

write gendarz rohinaa or something like that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise

it...means you have to give keywords in the title bar

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You

must know my limitation in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish

haven

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You

agree I will put Your photo in my sisyas categoryy

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM):

anyway our corespondation is long time back

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little informal

but still

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal

your full name / date

of birth / chart / photo

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddha in kendra.good muhurta.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in right

time.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good

paraspara karaka - my is Gemini

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me

when You send it

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was

writing that mail to you

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im

putting You

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really

glad

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we

continue

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM):

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i

prefer mails for now.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to understand....to

read few times to understand.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i

also prefer this with my Guruji Visi

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i

had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in

gemini and cancer.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you

can say me..no problem you are after all my Guru now

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no

problem. attitude is important

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and

attitude is only for sake of knowledge reception.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my Karma

stana...so give me all sorts of troubles....including job, money,

personal life...all sorts of problems

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot buy a

book even. ...i am not self dependant currently

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest

in astrology

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get

some time ill see your chart in more details ok?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to

understand astrology

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked you....it

was just my lagna time i.e 2'30 " ...and that was exact time

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save

this example somewhere

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are

You living

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now

its ok

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.com/content/view/15/21/lang,en/

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should

get topaz

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra's

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I

will give You vyasa mantra

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas daily

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad for

vidya

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you

must do during all time with me

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to

Hanuman also

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by doing

Daan. or donation to cows.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will

alleviate this curse

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu

in ninth and guru curse this are worst

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because

influencing AL and 7 from AL

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these

two remedies with wednesday fasting

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact

mercury should be weak

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha

weak in 3 from AL brings money

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are

spirital and good person

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM):

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual

....no venus in 12th effects.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in

12H is good

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is

there

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect myself

with external places. ..means out of my country

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM):

but Sani-Guru-Guru is good info for me.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that Jagganath

treat me as Guru

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who You

meet

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You

meet Guru's in rahu / sani period thats weird understand?

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true

teachings.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti

teaches

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make

stronger

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru =

brhaspati or Siva.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM):

this is my mail : rafalgen

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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Dear Rafal ji,

 

Yes there was guru sishya relationship. But at some stage - you felt suffocated, so wanted to come out. Is it wrong

 

If it was that way i had said he forcefully added me, but i said in my mail that i accepted to be his shishya. ..

Even i trusted your said mahurata. even we discussed that.

 

i wrote that to sharat "

 

 

""I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that ""

 

Sir my motive is not to prove you wrong but just that we had mahurata discussion. Thats it.

I previously said you that please donot take on heart , but as you say that i didnt had faith in you, thats wrong. I had faith in you , but the problem is that if i have certain things to explain with my own calculations , i can write them.

and those writings cant be ignored by saying its out of parampara. I was glad to have your guidence no doubt in that.

 

no problem sir, if you want to close the issue, i dont have any trouble. But dont say that i didnt had faith in your teachings. this really hurt sir.

 

so what is my fault - ? just that I did not want to continue. So why all these fuss and attack on my personal chart? Can we find a single chart- without any negatives..it is a very bad practice..

 

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

 

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa

Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17 PM

Re: Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation

 

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and one by Brhaspati. Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few things from the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu as Guru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha. Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayed emotionally.In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, and You also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that there was no Guru-Sisya relationship. Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com~Tarun~ napisał(a):

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri Rafal ji,

The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian Standard Timings.

 

I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my Dasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

 

Please give little time to read whole conversation.

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

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Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come up in top in google and and msn.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a domain www.vedic-jyotish.netTarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterdayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm okTarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going to use that.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see okTarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya then there is no problem in thatTarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months to come up.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but 2 siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa or something like thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhereTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise it...means you have to give keywords in the title barjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitation in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taughtTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Your photo in my sisyas categoryyTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sirTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to youTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to doTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation is long time backjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little informal but stillTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com your full name / date of birth / chart / photoTarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddha in kendra.good muhurta.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): greatTarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in right time.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahuratTarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo toojyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my is GeminiTarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Greatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send itTarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writing that mail to youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): okTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting Youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days agoTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really gladjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continueTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM): Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now. Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to understand....to read few times to understand.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with my Guruji Visijyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in gemini and cancer.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of RahuTarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can say me..no problem you are after all my Guru nowjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is importantTarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sake of knowledge reception.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my Karma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles....including job, money, personal life...all sorts of problemsTarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot buy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currentlyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i seeTarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest in astrologyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill see your chart in more details ok?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to understand astrologyTarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked you....it was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhereTarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You livingjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): JohdpurTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): JodhpurTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): IndiTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): indiaTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in Indiajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its okjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.com/content/view/15/21/lang,en/Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alotjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topazjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphirejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra'sTarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasa mantrajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas dailyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad for vidyaTarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during all time with mejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sureTarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman alsojyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by doing Daan. or donation to cows.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curseTarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by VishnuTarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and guru curse this are worstjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from riseTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7 from ALTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies with wednesday fastingjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should helpTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercuryjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weakjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL brings moneyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no moneyTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmeshTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul tooTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good personjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM): Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...no venus in 12th effects.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is goodjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is badjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7HTarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is therejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect myself with external places. ..means out of my countryjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good info for me.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that Jagganath treat me as Gurujyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who You meetTarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu / sani period thats weird understand?Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true teachings.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teachesjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make strongerjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which representsjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that periodTarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail : rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pljyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questionsjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): NamaskarTarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Tarun,

 

I have no personal problem with You. For me topic is closed. I wanted

only to discuss muhurta chart.

 

Of course, this copying chat discussion was below rules of conduct, and

Ive also seen few contradiction in Your mails - but this will not

change anything about Your dosha. Only remedy is Guru mantra, otherwise

You will repeat the same mistake again and again. Fortunately not in my

'ashram'.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

 

 

~Tarun~ napisał(a):

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

Yes there was guru sishya relationship. But at some stage - you

felt suffocated, so wanted to come out. Is it wrong

If it was that way i had said he forcefully added me, but i

said in my mail that i accepted to be his shishya. ..

Even i trusted your said mahurata. even we discussed that.

i wrote that to sharat "

 

""I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his

astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware

that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt

objected, i accepted that ""

Sir my motive is not to prove you wrong but just that we had

mahurata discussion. Thats it.

I previously said you that please donot take on heart , but as

you say that i didnt had faith in you, thats wrong. I had faith in you

, but the problem is that if i have certain things to explain with my

own calculations , i can write them.

and those writings cant be ignored by saying its out of

parampara. I was glad to have your guidence no doubt in that.

no problem sir, if you want to close the issue, i dont have any

trouble. But dont say that i didnt had faith in your teachings. this

really hurt sir.

so what is my fault - ? just that I did not want to continue.

So why all these fuss and attack on my personal chart? Can we find a

single chart- without any negatives..it is a very bad practice..

Warm Regards,

Tarun

 

 

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa@ .com

Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17 PM

Re: Re: Here is Chat of Tarun

(exsisya) acceptation

 

 

 

hraum namah adityaya

 

Dear Tarun,

 

There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and one by

Brhaspati.

 

Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few things

from the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu as

Guru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha.

 

Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayed

emotionally.

 

In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, and

You also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that there was

no Guru-Sisya relationship.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

 

~Tarun~ napisał(a):

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and

Shri Rafal ji,

The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian

Standard Timings.

 

I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata

and my Dasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

 

Please give little time to read whole conversation.

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility reading

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time back

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM):

www.rohinaa. com

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and views

on it.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra table

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced it

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming professional

astrologer

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but i

think its impossible in forums to learn

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics

behind everything.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is needed

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to explore.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology. but

unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in India

or from poland itself.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is link

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpage

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good article

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definately it

is going to be good.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admit

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be my

guru in astrology..but was afraid .

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busy

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of your

website. too.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be done

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all search

engines along with my websites too.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come up

in top in google and and msn.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a

domain www.vedic-jyotish. net

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterday

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going to use

that.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya then there

is no problem in that

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months to

come up.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but 2

site

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa or

something like that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise it...means

you have to give keywords in the title bar

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitation in

Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Your photo

in my sisyas categoryy

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our

corespondation is long time back

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little informal

but still

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must

send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com your full name / date of birth / chart /

photo

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in

kona, shukra and buddha in kendra.good muhurta.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in right

time.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my is

Gemini

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send it

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writing that

mail to you

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting You

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really glad

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continue

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM):

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to understand..

...to read few times to understand.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with my

Guruji Visi

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i

had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in

gemini and cancer.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can say

me..no problem you are after all my Guru now

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is important

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sake of

knowledge reception .

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my Karma

stana...so give me all sorts of troubles.... including job, money,

personal life...all sorts of problems

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot buy a

book even. ...i am not self dependant currently

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest in

astrology

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill see your

chart in more details ok?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to

understand astrology

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked you....it

was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhere

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You living

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its ok

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM):

http://www.rohinaa. com/content/ view/15/21/ lang,en/

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topaz

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra's

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasa

mantra

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas daily

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad for

vidya

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during all time

with me

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman also

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by doing

Daan. or donation to cows.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curse

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and guru curse

this are worst

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7 from

AL

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies with

wednesday fasting

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weak

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL brings

money

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good person

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM):

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...no

venus in 12th effects.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is good

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is there

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect myself

with external places. ..means out of my country

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru

is good info for me.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that Jagganath

treat me as Guru

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who You

meet

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu /

sani period thats weird understand?

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true

teachings.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teaches

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make

stronger

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail : rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pl

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.

Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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॥हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Tarun,

Namaskar.

You accept you had a guru sishya relationship with Rafalji. You also say you have faith in his teachings. When you feel you have your 'way' of doing things, something not along he lines of parampara, would not have been wise to say so,inform your guru and get on with it. Jyotish, teachings not along the principles of the parampara are superflous to it. Though no knowledge is to be shunned, all I want to tell you that they are probably not relevant(the principles) now,to you, any more. All further actions, words of yours are only being successful in denigrating a Guru and a man who is vastly knowledgeable ,a good human being. Not only those but also the greatness of the parampara, if you cannot find shelter under it is it not time to make a graceful exit? Bad karma is very easy to accumulate remember please. So desist from whatever you are doing and make amends. No amount of words can take effect now, it is past

time.

 

regards

Nalini

 

 

~Tarun~ <tarun.virgosohamsa Sent: Friday, 29 June, 2007 11:26:01 PM Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

 

Yes there was guru sishya relationship. But at some stage - you felt suffocated, so wanted to come out. Is it wrong

 

If it was that way i had said he forcefully added me, but i said in my mail that i accepted to be his shishya. ..

Even i trusted your said mahurata. even we discussed that.

 

i wrote that to sharat "

 

 

""I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that ""

 

Sir my motive is not to prove you wrong but just that we had mahurata discussion. Thats it.

I previously said you that please donot take on heart , but as you say that i didnt had faith in you, thats wrong. I had faith in you , but the problem is that if i have certain things to explain with my own calculations , i can write them.

and those writings cant be ignored by saying its out of parampara. I was glad to have your guidence no doubt in that.

 

no problem sir, if you want to close the issue, i dont have any trouble. But dont say that i didnt had faith in your teachings. this really hurt sir.

 

so what is my fault - ? just that I did not want to continue. So why all these fuss and attack on my personal chart? Can we find a single chart- without any negatives..it is a very bad practice..

 

 

Warm Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

 

 

 

-

Rafal Gendarz

sohamsa@ .com

Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17 PM

Re: Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation

 

 

hraum namah adityayaDear Tarun,There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and one by Brhaspati. Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few things from the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu as Guru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha. Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayed emotionally.In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, and You also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that there was no Guru-Sisya relationship. Regards,Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comJyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com~Tarun~ napisał(a):

 

 

Dear Members,

 

I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri Rafal ji,

The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian Standard Timings.

 

I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my Dasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

 

Please give little time to read whole conversation.

 

Regards,

Tarun

 

Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello RafalTarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im finejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility readingTarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my sitejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time backjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): wwwTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa. comTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and views on it.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kooljyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra tableTarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced itTarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming professional astrologer Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DCTarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM):

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once moreTarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): okTarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but i think its impossible in forums to learn Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics behind everything.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is neededTarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to explore.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology. but unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): tooTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in India or from poland itself.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): polandTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM):

studied online.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is linkjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpagejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandhajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yesTarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good articleTarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definately it is going to be good.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM): jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admitTarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be my guru in astrology..but was afraid .Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007

10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little moreTarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of your website. too.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be doneTarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all search engines along with my websites too. Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come up in top in google and and msn.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a domain www.vedic-jyotish. netTarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterdayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm okTarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going to use that.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see okTarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya then there is no problem in thatTarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months to come up.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but 2 siteTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa or something

like thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhereTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise it...means you have to give keywords in the title barjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitation in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taughtTarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Your photo in my sisyas categoryyTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sirTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to youTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to doTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for thatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation is long time backjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little informal but stillTarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM):

okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com your full name / date of birth / chart / photoTarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddha in kendra.good muhurta.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): greatTarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in right time.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahuratTarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo toojyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my is GeminiTarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Greatjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM):

tell me when You send itTarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writing that mail to youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): okTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting Youjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days agoTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really gladjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continueTarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM): Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now. Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to understand.. ..to read few times to understand.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with my Guruji Visijyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in gemini and cancer.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of RahuTarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can say me..no problem you are after all my Guru nowjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is importantTarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sake of knowledge reception.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.Tarun

(1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my Karma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles.... including job, money, personal life...all sorts of problemsTarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot buy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currentlyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i seeTarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest in astrologyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill see your chart in more details ok?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to understand astrologyTarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked you....it was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example

somewhereTarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You livingjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): JohdpurTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): JodhpurTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): IndiTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): indiaTarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in Indiajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its okjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa. com/content/ view/15/21/ lang,en/Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41

PM): Thanks alotjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topazjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphirejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra'sTarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasa mantrajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas dailyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad for vidyaTarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during all time with mejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sureTarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman alsojyotraff108 (1/19/2007

11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by doing Daan. or donation to cows.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curseTarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by VishnuTarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopajyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and guru curse this are worstjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from riseTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7 from ALTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies with wednesday fastingjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should

helpTarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercuryjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weakjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL brings moneyjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no moneyTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmeshTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul tooTarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good personjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM): Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...no venus in 12th effects.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu

yoga..Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is goodjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is badjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7HTarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is therejyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect myself with external places. ..means out of my countryjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good info for me.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that Jagganath treat me as Gurujyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who You meetTarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007

11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu / sani period thats weird understand?Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true teachings.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teachesjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make strongerjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which representsjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that periodTarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okayjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okayTarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail : rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pljyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questionsjyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): NamaskarTarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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|| Om Namo Narayanaya ||

Dear Sister Naliniji and List,

Namaskar,

 

Sorry I couldn't reply to your earlier email , I was just keeping

watch on all emails.

There is no point in talking with Mr.Tarun.

1)He doesn't have sense how to talk about Guruji and elder

people.[unnecessary dragging senior Jyotish figure in between for no

reason at all.]

2)His words are really senseless and baseless, why didn't he asked

Guruji I don't want to be your sisya.Means he wanted and at later

stage he did this.

3)I am really annoyed by his words " you felt suffocated " , how can Guru

feel suffocated???

Guruji is Benovelent figure, he takes more time than anyone to help

on list, teaching Jyotisha, clearing darkness , opening light , new

horizons.

 

4)Its really foolish thing to put chat openly on public forum.What he

want to prove I don't know he should first learn English, Guruji wrote

about Muhurta good study material.He doesn't know simple English.

 

5) Means he wanted to be and now he say no Guru-sisya relationship.

He say he hasn't disrespect anyone then how come he says I wait for

" rafals " answer.

 

Its matter of regret Tarun is doing this way.

He is on his mission to accumulate bad karma , let him enjoy.

 

Final words Mr.Tarun I am not interested having any communication with

you anything you write I will not see that email.

 

Kind Regards,

Jim.

Guruji's Sisya.

 

 

sohamsa , nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote:

>

> ॥हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

> Dear Tarun,

> Namaskar.

> You accept you had a guru sishya relationship with Rafalji. You also

say you have faith in his teachings. When you feel you have your 'way'

of doing things, something not along he lines of parampara, would not

have been wise to say so,inform your guru and get on with it.

Jyotish, teachings not along the principles of the parampara are

superflous to it. Though no knowledge is to be shunned, all I want to

tell you that they are probably not relevant(the principles) now,to

you, any more. All further actions, words of yours are only being

successful in denigrating a Guru and a man who is vastly knowledgeable

,a good human being. Not only those but also the greatness of the

parampara, if you cannot find shelter under it is it not time to make

a graceful exit? Bad karma is very easy to accumulate remember please.

So desist from whatever you are doing and make amends. No amount of

words can take effect now, it is past time.

>

> regards

> Nalini

>

>

>

>

>

> ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo

> sohamsa

> Friday, 29 June, 2007 11:26:01 PM

> Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> Yes there was guru sishya relationship. But at some stage - you felt

suffocated, so wanted to come out. Is it wrong

>

> If it was that way i had said he forcefully added me, but i said in

my mail that i accepted to be his shishya. ..

> Even i trusted your said mahurata. even we discussed that.

>

> i wrote that to sharat "

>

> " " I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological views

and other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will take

me in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that " "

>

> Sir my motive is not to prove you wrong but just that we had

mahurata discussion. Thats it.

> I previously said you that please donot take on heart , but as you

say that i didnt had faith in you, thats wrong. I had faith in you ,

but the problem is that if i have certain things to explain with my

own calculations , i can write them.

> and those writings cant be ignored by saying its out of parampara. I

was glad to have your guidence no doubt in that.

>

> no problem sir, if you want to close the issue, i dont have any

trouble. But dont say that i didnt had faith in your teachings. this

really hurt sir.

>

> so what is my fault - ? just that I did not want to continue. So why

all these fuss and attack on my personal chart? Can we find a single

chart- without any negatives..it is a very bad practice..

>

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

>

> -

> Rafal Gendarz

> sohamsa@ .com

> Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17 PM

> Re: Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation

>

>

> hraum namah adityaya

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and one

by Brhaspati.

>

> Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few things

from the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu as

Guru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha.

>

> Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayed

emotionally.

>

> In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, and

You also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that there

was no Guru-Sisya relationship.

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> ~Tarun~ napisał(a):

> Dear Members,

>

> I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and Shri

Rafal ji,

> The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian Standard

Timings.

>

> I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and my

Dasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.

>

> Please give little time to read whole conversation.

>

> Regards,

> Tarun

>

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM):

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility reading

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time back

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa. com

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur site

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles and

views on it.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra table

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced it

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becoming

professional astrologer

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM):

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but i

think its impossible in forums to learn

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logics

behind everything.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is needed

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to explore.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology.

but unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being in

India or from poland itself.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is link

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpage

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good article

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definately

it is going to be good.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM):

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admit

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be my

guru in astrology..but was afraid .

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busy

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of your

website. too.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be done

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all search

engines along with my websites too.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to come

up in top in google and and msn.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase a

domain www.vedic-jyotish. net

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterday

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going to

use that.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya then

there is no problem in that

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months to

come up.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but

2 site

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa or

something like that

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimise

it...means you have to give keywords in the title bar

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitation

in Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Your

photo in my sisyas categoryy

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation is

long time back

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was little

informal but still

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT)

com your full name / date of birth / chart / photo

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddha

in kendra.good muhurta.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student in

right time.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my is

Gemini

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send it

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writing

that mail to you

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting You

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really glad

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continue

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM):

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me to

understand.. ..to read few times to understand.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with my

Guruji Visi

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart i

had seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn in

gemini and cancer.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can say

me..no problem you are after all my Guru now

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is important

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sake

of knowledge reception.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over my

Karma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles.... including job,

money, personal life...all sorts of problems

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannot

buy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currently

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest in

astrology

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill see

your chart in more details ok?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now to

understand astrology

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i asked

you....it was just my lagna time i.e 2'30 " ...and that was exact time

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhere

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You living

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its ok

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.

com/content/ view/15/21/ lang,en/

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topaz

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra's

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasa

mantra

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas daily

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is bad

for vidya

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during all

time with me

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman also

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru by

doing Daan. or donation to cows.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curse

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and guru

curse this are worst

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7

from AL

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies with

wednesday fasting

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weak

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL brings

money

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good person

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM):

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...no

venus in 12th effects.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is good

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is there

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connect

myself with external places. ..means out of my country

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good info

for me.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know that

Jagganath treat me as Guru

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows who

You meet

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu /

sani period thats weird understand?

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives true

teachings.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teaches

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation make

stronger

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail :

rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pl

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!

> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.

> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day

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Dear Nalini and Jim,

 

Me and Rafal have closed this topic, and your mails just make me to laugh at you both.

 

Regards,

 

Tarun

 

 

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Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:46 AM

Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation

 

 

|| Om Namo Narayanaya ||Dear Sister Naliniji and List,Namaskar,Sorry I couldn't reply to your earlier email , I was just keepingwatch on all emails.There is no point in talking with Mr.Tarun.1)He doesn't have sense how to talk about Guruji and elderpeople.[unnecessary dragging senior Jyotish figure in between for noreason at all.]2)His words are really senseless and baseless, why didn't he askedGuruji I don't want to be your sisya.Means he wanted and at laterstage he did this.3)I am really annoyed by his words" you felt suffocated", how can Gurufeel suffocated???Guruji is Benovelent figure, he takes more time than anyone to helpon list, teaching Jyotisha, clearing darkness , opening light , newhorizons.4)Its really foolish thing to put chat openly on public forum.What hewant to prove I don't know he should first learn English, Guruji wroteabout Muhurta good study material.He doesn't know simple English.5) Means he wanted to be and now he say no Guru-sisya relationship.He say he hasn't disrespect anyone then how come he says I wait for"rafals" answer.Its matter of regret Tarun is doing this way.He is on his mission to accumulate bad karma , let him enjoy.Final words Mr.Tarun I am not interested having any communication withyou anything you write I will not see that email.Kind Regards,Jim.Guruji's Sisya.sohamsa , nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote:>> ॥हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥> Dear Tarun,> Namaskar.> You accept you had a guru sishya relationship with Rafalji. You alsosay you have faith in his teachings. When you feel you have your 'way'of doing things, something not along he lines of parampara, would nothave been wise to say so,inform your guru and get on with it. Jyotish, teachings not along the principles of the parampara aresuperflous to it. Though no knowledge is to be shunned, all I want totell you that they are probably not relevant(the principles) now,toyou, any more. All further actions, words of yours are only beingsuccessful in denigrating a Guru and a man who is vastly knowledgeable,a good human being. Not only those but also the greatness of theparampara, if you cannot find shelter under it is it not time to makea graceful exit? Bad karma is very easy to accumulate remember please.So desist from whatever you are doing and make amends. No amount ofwords can take effect now, it is past time.> > regards> Nalini > > > > > > ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo> sohamsa > Friday, 29 June, 2007 11:26:01 PM> Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation> > Dear Rafal ji,> > Yes there was guru sishya relationship. But at some stage - you feltsuffocated, so wanted to come out. Is it wrong> > If it was that way i had said he forcefully added me, but i said inmy mail that i accepted to be his shishya. ..> Even i trusted your said mahurata. even we discussed that. > > i wrote that to sharat "> > ""I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological viewsand other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will takeme in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that ""> > Sir my motive is not to prove you wrong but just that we hadmahurata discussion. Thats it. > I previously said you that please donot take on heart , but as yousay that i didnt had faith in you, thats wrong. I had faith in you ,but the problem is that if i have certain things to explain with myown calculations , i can write them.> and those writings cant be ignored by saying its out of parampara. Iwas glad to have your guidence no doubt in that.> > no problem sir, if you want to close the issue, i dont have anytrouble. But dont say that i didnt had faith in your teachings. thisreally hurt sir.> > so what is my fault - ? just that I did not want to continue. So whyall these fuss and attack on my personal chart? Can we find a singlechart- without any negatives..it is a very bad practice..> > > Warm Regards,> > Tarun> > > > > - > Rafal Gendarz > sohamsa@ .com > Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17 PM> Re: Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation> > > hraum namah adityaya> > Dear Tarun,> > There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and oneby Brhaspati. > > Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few thingsfrom the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu asGuru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra Pratipad Dosha. > > Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayedemotionally.> > In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, andYou also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that therewas no Guru-Sisya relationship. > > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > ~Tarun~ napisaÅ‚(a): > Dear Members,> > I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and ShriRafal ji,> The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian StandardTimings.> > I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and myDasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.> > Please give little time to read whole conversation.> > Regards,> Tarun> > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility reading> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time back> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa. com> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur site> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles andviews on it.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra table> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced it> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becomingprofessional astrologer > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM): > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM): ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but ithink its impossible in forums to learn > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logicsbehind everything.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is needed> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to explore.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology.but unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being inIndia or from poland itself.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is link> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpage> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good article> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definatelyit is going to be good.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM): > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admit> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be myguru in astrology..but was afraid .> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busy> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of yourwebsite. too.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be done> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all searchengines along with my websites too. > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to comeup in top in google and and msn.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase adomain www.vedic-jyotish. net> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterday> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going touse that.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my pleasure.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya thenthere is no problem in that> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months tocome up.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but2 site> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa orsomething like that> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimiseit...means you have to give keywords in the title bar> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitationin Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put Yourphoto in my sisyas categoryy> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation islong time back> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was littleinformal but still> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com your full name / date of birth / chart / photo> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddhain kendra.good muhurta.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student inright time.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my isGemini> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send it> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writingthat mail to you> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting You> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really glad> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continue> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM): > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now. > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM): sure no problem.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me tounderstand.. ..to read few times to understand.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with myGuruji Visi> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart ihad seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn ingemini and cancer.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can sayme..no problem you are after all my Guru now> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is important> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM): and attitude is only for sakeof knowledge reception.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over myKarma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles.... including job,money, personal life...all sorts of problems> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannotbuy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currently> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest inastrology> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill seeyour chart in more details ok?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now tounderstand astrology> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i askedyou....it was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhere> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You living> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its ok> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.com/content/ view/15/21/ lang,en/> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you sir.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topaz> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra's> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasamantra> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas daily> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is badfor vidya> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during alltime with me> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman also> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru bydoing Daan. or donation to cows.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curse> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and gurucurse this are worst> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7from AL> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies withwednesday fasting> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weak> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid > Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL bringsmoney> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good person> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM): > Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...novenus in 12th effects.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is good> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is there> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also > Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connectmyself with external places. ..means out of my country> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good infofor me.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know thatJagganath treat me as Guru> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows whoYou meet> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu /sani period thats weird understand?> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives trueteachings.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teaches> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation makestronger> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail :rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pl> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM): sure i wil .> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day> > > Send instant 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Dear Tarunji, Sorry to say but when you calm down and reanalyze the whole thing at a later age you will feel humiliated at your own self. Many of them probably no contact or direct connection with Rafael. But at this young age he has more wealth of information compared to you and me. Calm down and do not make a joke of yourself. If you feel frustrated,type all the words you want to relive the steam and send the email to yourself This way you channelize your anger. regards yasoda yasoda~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo wrote: Dear Nalini and Jim, Me and Rafal have closed this topic, and your mails just make me to laugh at you both. Regards, Tarun -----

Original Message ----- vedicastro_mind sohamsa Saturday, June 30, 2007 5:46 AM Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation || Om Namo Narayanaya ||Dear Sister Naliniji and List,Namaskar,Sorry I couldn't reply to your earlier email , I was just keepingwatch on all emails.There is no point in talking with Mr.Tarun.1)He doesn't have sense how to talk about Guruji and elderpeople.[unnecessary dragging senior Jyotish figure in between for noreason at all.]2)His words are really

senseless and baseless, why didn't he askedGuruji I don't want to be your sisya.Means he wanted and at laterstage he did this.3)I am really annoyed by his words" you felt suffocated", how can Gurufeel suffocated???Guruji is Benovelent figure, he takes more time than anyone to helpon list, teaching Jyotisha, clearing darkness , opening light , newhorizons.4)Its really foolish thing to put chat openly on public forum.What hewant to prove I don't know he should first learn English, Guruji wroteabout Muhurta good study material.He doesn't know simple English.5) Means he wanted to be and now he say no Guru-sisya relationship.He say he hasn't disrespect anyone then how come he says I wait for"rafals" answer.Its matter of regret Tarun is doing this way.He is on his mission to accumulate bad karma , let him enjoy.Final words Mr.Tarun I am not interested having any communication withyou

anything you write I will not see that email.Kind Regards,Jim.Guruji's Sisya.sohamsa , nalini swamy <nalini2818 wrote:>> ॥हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥> Dear Tarun,> Namaskar.> You accept you had a guru sishya relationship with Rafalji. You alsosay you have faith in his teachings. When you feel you have your 'way'of doing things, something not along he lines of parampara, would nothave been wise to say so,inform your guru and get on with it. Jyotish, teachings not along the principles of the parampara aresuperflous to it. Though no knowledge is to be shunned, all I want totell you that they are probably not relevant(the principles) now,toyou, any more. All further actions, words of yours are only beingsuccessful in denigrating a Guru and a man who is vastly knowledgeable,a good

human being. Not only those but also the greatness of theparampara, if you cannot find shelter under it is it not time to makea graceful exit? Bad karma is very easy to accumulate remember please.So desist from whatever you are doing and make amends. No amount ofwords can take effect now, it is past time.> > regards> Nalini > > > > > > ~Tarun~ <tarun.virgo> sohamsa > Friday, 29 June, 2007 11:26:01 PM> Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation> > Dear Rafal ji,> > Yes there was guru sishya relationship. But at some stage - you feltsuffocated, so wanted to come out. Is it wrong> > If it was that way i had said he forcefully added me, but i said inmy mail that i accepted to be his

shishya. ..> Even i trusted your said mahurata. even we discussed that. > > i wrote that to sharat "> > ""I did asked Rafal ji, if he can suggest me his astrological viewsand other things if he would like, i was not aware that he will takeme in his Student list that time. But i didnt objected, i accepted that ""> > Sir my motive is not to prove you wrong but just that we hadmahurata discussion. Thats it. > I previously said you that please donot take on heart , but as yousay that i didnt had faith in you, thats wrong. I had faith in you ,but the problem is that if i have certain things to explain with myown calculations , i can write them.> and those writings cant be ignored by saying its out of parampara. Iwas glad to have your guidence no doubt in that.> > no problem sir, if you want to close the issue, i dont have anytrouble. But dont say that i didnt had faith

in your teachings. thisreally hurt sir.> > so what is my fault - ? just that I did not want to continue. So whyall these fuss and attack on my personal chart? Can we find a singlechart- without any negatives..it is a very bad practice..> > > Warm Regards,> > Tarun> > > > > - > Rafal Gendarz > sohamsa@ .com > Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17 PM> Re: Re: Here is Chat of Tarun (exsisya) acceptation> > > hraum namah adityaya> > Dear Tarun,> > There are two types of muhurta, one is lorded by Shukracarya and oneby Brhaspati. > > Panchanga was bad without iota of doubt, still I pointed few thingsfrom the chart I casted, therefore I gave remedies for this Rahu asGuru mantras. In that time I didnt know the Shukra

Pratipad Dosha. > > Still Vistiji told me about danger with Rahu in ninth..I was swayedemotionally.> > In this discussion we can also see that I accepted You as Sisya, andYou also accepted it. So this is against what You said - that therewas no Guru-Sisya relationship. > > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > ~Tarun~ napisał(a): > Dear Members,> > I am posting a Chat Trascript that happened between me and ShriRafal ji,> The time and Date shown in this Transcript is as per Indian StandardTimings.> > I have bolded the places where he talked me abt mahurata and myDasha , which Sri Rafal ji is telling bad now.> > Please give little time to read whole conversation.> > Regards,> Tarun> > Tarun

(1/19/2007 10:05:23 PM): hello Rafal> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:26 PM): how are you> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): oh im fine> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:37 PM): > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:43 PM): just doing compatibility reading> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:45 PM): did u recognised me.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:46 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:48 PM): do You saw my chart?> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): my site> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:05:53 PM): ?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:05:58 PM): yes i saw ur chart long time back> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:04 PM): and site?> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:05 PM): www> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:07 PM): nope..> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): www.rohinaa. com> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:14 PM): thats great to hear abt ur site> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:29 PM): so are u sharing your articles andviews on

it.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:35 PM): yes.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:40 PM): thats kool> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:06:43 PM): today i added new nakshatra table> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:06:55 PM): i will hve a look at it..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:01 PM): why didnt u announced it in forum.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:07:15 PM): i announced it> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:22 PM): might be i missed that.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:07:55 PM): so rafal..are you becomingprofessional astrologer > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:04 PM): in ur Country.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:08:37 PM): sorry i got DC> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:09:04 PM): Guru Rafal > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:19 PM): > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:23 PM): I announced it once more> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:30 PM): yes you should.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:10:43 PM): but i m tired of astrology.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:10:57 PM):

ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:02 PM): i want to explore its depth ..but ithink its impossible in forums to learn > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:15 PM): i have to join SJC to get the logicsbehind everything.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:11:17 PM): Guru is needed> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:11:27 PM): yes guru is obviously needed to explore.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:29 PM): I want to explore marital astrology.but unfortunately i didnt got any nice article on that.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:12:30 PM): too> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:03 PM): Did u practised jyotish being inIndia or from poland itself.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:09 PM): poland> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:16 PM): studied online.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:21 PM): there is link> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:25 PM): to maritial article on frontpage> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:13:27 PM): of my site> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:29 PM):

okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:13:53 PM): sambandha> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:14:52 PM): yes> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:14:58 PM): okay.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:04 PM): good article> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:18 PM): yes if it is by you than definatelyit is going to be good.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:24 PM): > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:15:36 PM): read and admit> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:15:55 PM): i always thought to ask you to be myguru in astrology..but was afraid .> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:03 PM): might be because of ur busyness.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:21 PM): hm im not so busy> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:16:28 PM): nowadays maybe little more> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:49 PM): yes you can do marketing of yourwebsite. too.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:16:55 PM): to make it more popular in poland.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:17:10 PM): well see what can be done> Tarun

(1/19/2007 10:17:34 PM): i can submit it on most of all searchengines along with my websites too. > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:17:36 PM): no problem in that> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:18:14 PM): how?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:24 PM): i use a software > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:41 PM): and that has helped my site to comeup in top in google and and msn.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:18:55 PM): yest i asked my frend to purchase adomain www.vedic-jyotish. net> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:01 PM): he has just bought it yesterday> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:07 PM): hm ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:19:28 PM): but he has just kept it..no going touse that.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:19:51 PM): see ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:09 PM): i am submitting your site.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:16 PM): and will do it weekly > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:19 PM): thank You!> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:21 PM): my

pleasure.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:28 PM): if You want to be sisya thenthere is no problem in that> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:32 PM): but it will take almost 6-8 months tocome up.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:20:47 PM): i am really glad to be your Student Sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:20:55 PM): well my site its on google but2 site> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:08 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:11 PM): if You write gendarz rohinaa orsomething like that> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:15 PM): then it appears somewhere> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:31 PM): yes but you have to optimiseit...means you have to give keywords in the title bar> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:39 PM): but You must know my limitationin Jyotish, I can teach You what I was taught> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:21:53 PM): where it comes rohinna jyotish haven > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:21:57 PM): if You agree I will put

Yourphoto in my sisyas categoryy> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:05 PM): yes i agree sir> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:10 PM): i am really obliged to you> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:17 PM): what i have to do> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:19 PM): for that> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:24 PM): anyway our corespondation islong time back> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:30 PM): so teachings was littleinformal but still> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:22:39 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:22:54 PM): you must send me rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com your full name / date of birth / chart / photo> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:23:07 PM): sure. i will send it.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:24:00 PM): guru in kona, shukra and buddhain kendra.good muhurta.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:12 PM): great> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:38 PM): so i think i got your student inright time.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:24:41 PM): and mahurat> Tarun

(1/19/2007 10:25:02 PM): and my Lagna virgo too> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:25:14 PM): good paraspara karaka - my isGemini> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:25:22 PM): Great> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:21 PM): tell me when You send it> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:26:33 PM): i am just sending it..i was writingthat mail to you> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:26:43 PM): ok> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:01 PM): Mail sent.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:31 PM): Rafal ji when can we start > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:39 PM): ok im putting You> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:48 PM): start was done many days ago> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:49 PM): my pleasure...i m really really glad> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:28:51 PM): now we continue> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:28:54 PM): > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:00 PM): sure sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:23 PM): however i prefer mails for now. > Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:28 PM):

sure no problem.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:29:43 PM): that will also help me tounderstand.. ..to read few times to understand.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:55 PM): yes. i also prefer this with myGuruji Visi> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:29:57 PM): Visti*> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:30:02 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:24 PM): Rafal as you are seeing in my chart ihad seen a very tough time in past 3 yrs..in transit of saturn ingemini and cancer.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:31:35 PM): and as well in Dasha of Rahu> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:04 PM): Can i call you Rafal ,,,if you dont mind.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:32:12 PM): yes..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:32:36 PM): if you feel any kind of ..you can sayme..no problem you are after all my Guru now> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:00 PM): no problem. attitude is important> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:08 PM): thanks.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:33:13 PM):

and attitude is only for sakeof knowledge reception.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:33:45 PM): yes...attitude is most important.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:34:35 PM): Saturn was over my UL and over myKarma stana...so give me all sorts of troubles.... including job,money, personal life...all sorts of problems> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:35:17 PM): and now i am so down that i cannotbuy a book even. ...i am not self dependant currently> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:36:46 PM): i see> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:03 PM): and this thing put my interest inastrology> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:37:04 PM): when i get some time ill seeyour chart in more details ok?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:14 PM): no problem..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:19 PM): i am ur student now.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:37:41 PM): so i am not at all tensed now tounderstand astrology> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:46:40 PM): Rafal ji....the time i askedyou....it

was just my lagna time i.e 2'30" ...and that was exact time > jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:49:45 PM): hm save this example somewhere> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:49:58 PM): okay.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:50:37 PM): i did saved that sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:55:59 PM): where are You living> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:56:02 PM): now? City?> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:06 PM): Johdpur> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:08 PM): Jodhpur> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:09 PM): Indi> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:11 PM): india> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:56:25 PM): same as my birth place.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:00 PM): same as my birth place sir..> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:58:06 PM): i.e. Jodhpur in India> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:14 PM): now its ok> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 10:59:15 PM): http://www.rohinaa.com/content/ view/15/21/ lang,en/> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:39 PM): thank you

sir.> Tarun (1/19/2007 10:59:41 PM): Thanks alot> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:02 PM): you should get topaz> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:04 PM): or yellow saphire> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:13 PM): and chant a lot of guru mantra's> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:15 PM): okay.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:29 PM): tommorow I will give You vyasamantra> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:33 PM): and you willc hant it 3 malas daily> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:03:45 PM): otherwise rahu in ninth is badfor vidya> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:46 PM): okay sure.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:03:49 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:30 PM): that you must do during alltime with me> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:05:35 PM): rahu is also in ninth in d9> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:45 PM): sure> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:05:50 PM): i will.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:25 PM): pray to Hanuman also>

jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:06:27 PM): find some good mantra.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:44 PM): okay.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:06:50 PM): i do pray hanuman.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:15 PM): and trying to strengthen guru bydoing Daan. or donation to cows.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:16 PM): this will alleviate this curse> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:19 PM): as it is lorded by Vishnu> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:07:39 PM): Cows are Vishnu roopa> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:07:55 PM): this rahu in ninth and gurucurse this are worst> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:01 PM): and they stop you from rise> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:07 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:08 PM): because influencing AL and 7from AL> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:08:11 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:14 PM): so these two remedies withwednesday fasting> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:08:16 PM): should help> Tarun

(1/19/2007 11:08:43 PM): okay as to strength mercury> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:41 PM): infact mercury should be weak> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:09:51 PM): but your pitri rina should be paid > Tarun (1/19/2007 11:09:55 PM): ohh okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:00 PM): buddha weak in 3 from AL bringsmoney> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:10:04 PM): if strong no money> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:16 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:27 PM): but it is lagnesh and karmesh> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:34 PM): lord to ul too> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:10:42 PM): so wont be affected in those fields.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:03 PM): so you are spirital and good person> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:11:04 PM): > Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:24 PM): ha ha..yes i m quite spiritual ...novenus in 12th effects.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:11:34 PM): saturn and moon in 2nd...sadhu yoga..> Tarun (1/19/2007

11:11:39 PM): has made me more spiritual.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:31 PM): venus in 12H is good> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:34 PM): in 7H is bad> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:37 PM): sex is 7H> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:12:42 PM): yes.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:12:54 PM): but a8 is there> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:00 PM): so hardships also > Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:04 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:13:27 PM): i can utilise venus if i connectmyself with external places. ..means out of my country> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:13:49 PM): but Sani-Guru-Guru is good infofor me.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:00 PM): because now I know thatJagganath treat me as Guru> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:08 PM): because antardasas shows whoYou meet> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:17 PM): okay.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:14:23 PM): when You meet Guru's in rahu /sani period thats weird

understand?> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:39 PM): yes that gives cheatings.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:14:53 PM): but in Guru Period it gives trueteachings.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:39 PM): so Visti teaches> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:46 PM): when You want to relation makestronger> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:15:50 PM): pray to devata which represents> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:01 PM): antardasa in that period> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:07 PM): okay> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:16:12 PM): so Guru = brhaspati or Siva.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:17 PM): okay> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:16:38 PM): i got it sir.> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:35 PM): this is my mail :rafalgen (AT) (DOT) pl> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:41 PM): here I will wait for questions> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:45 PM): Namah Sivaya!> jyotraff108 (1/19/2007 11:22:46 PM): Namaskar> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:47 PM):

sure i wil .> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:50 PM): namaskar sir.> Tarun (1/19/2007 11:22:52 PM): have a nice day> > > Send instant messages to your online friendshttp://au.messenger.>

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