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Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Tijana and Tarun,

I was clearing my mail after a long time being away from the list. In the process I found this mai,

so I think there are some points which should be cleared.

If you improve the karaka, Marana Sthana effects on the house will be neutralized.

However, the lordship remains unattended and houses ruled by it will suffer due to decisions under

the terrible circumstances. Normally under such circumstances Karak of that bhava must protect the house.

There are so many things about Marana Sthana try to think. I will give a few hints. For example if Marana Sthana

planet has Shtana bala, the mental resources of the planet will not be harmed, however physical aspect to it

will suffer a lot, particularly in case of Asura Grahas..Sura Grahas behave differently... What happens when

there is conjunction with a planet? How then Marana behaves? What about Tatva and Guna, who can help Marana planets in

such cases?

So many things. It is not as simple..

Have to leave now,

Best wishes

Zoran

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of nix_nixen20. srpanj 2007 22:34sohamsa Subject: Re: Planets in MKS and remedies

 

Om Gurave NamahDear Tarun,I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do hope Gurus will give the explanation.Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew about this by now. MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, planet will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be in a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of a planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can see why Adityas for the process of "re-birth". If the statement about the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than Adityas must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation that planet doesn`t possess. It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg wrote:>> Hello Soul Sadhaka> > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji> and other discussions is this:-> > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its> Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That> means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect> it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any> combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also lords> only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?> > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of> MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into> focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the> MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I> guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that> house and that intern would make the experience of that house better> but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?> > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels> and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the> MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I> maybe wrong.> > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I> guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this one> > Regards> > Tarun> > sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote:> >> > Hi All,> > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> > - worship Su > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks> > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those > > houses? > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz > > signifactions)?> > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> > > > Thanx a tonne> > SS> >>

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Hello Soul Sadhaka

 

Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this

 

As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji

and other discussions is this:-

 

1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its

Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That

means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect

it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any

combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also lords

only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?

 

From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of

MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into

focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the

MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I

guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that

house and that intern would make the experience of that house better

but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?

 

The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels

and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the

MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I

maybe wrong.

 

I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I

guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this one

 

Regards

 

Tarun

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use

> - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,

> - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),

> - worship Su

> - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) -

> now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the

> bhava lorded by the planet in mks

>

> Please can someone clarify on the following:

>

> 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we

> use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the

> malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is

> it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain

> the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?

>

> 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?

> if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites

> like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep

> mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?

>

> 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary

> Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those

> houses?

> a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp

> if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz

> signifactions)?

> b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su

> in 12h, Ve in 6h)

>

> 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana?

> then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?

>

> Thanx a tonne

> SS

>

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These are quite complicated queries :)

Please read within **

sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote:>> Hi All,> > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> - worship Su > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the > bhava lorded by the planet in mks

**For MKS planets we can use Adityas, which can get activated by JL mantras..so both seem right. Worship of the Karaka of that planet is also right.

**Gems for planets in MKS can make their signification stronger and can be used, like Pukhraj for Guru in MKS in 3H, provided it is good for the lagna and natal chart.

**Gem for Karaka of the bhava..is a thought.. but seems like stretching it a bit . It has to be the bhava which houses the MKS planet. I woudnt go after this one.> > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?>

**MKS planets' bhava significations get destroyed, the one it owns. By itself it may be strong depending upon avastha and bhava; like Guru in 3H is MKS but is good as it aspects 9H of fortune.

> 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those > houses?

** If one worships the karaka's of those bhavas that could save them.

> a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz > signifactions)?> b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su > in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?>

**Like for Taur asc, Venus lords 6H and is MKS if placed in it. This still needs remedy. Worship karaka ..Shiva worship helps.

> Thanx a tonne> SS

**On a different note, could you recommend Shiva dhyana for Shiva panchakshari

Best wishes

Sharat Misra

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Dear Tarun,

>> From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of> MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into> focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the> MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I> guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that> house and that intern would make the experience of that house better> but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?

** Adityas are givers of all resources, they can endow the karaka with the same. Karaka then makes it easy for the MKS planet it tenants, so it doesnt feel like dying; if that happens then the planet can save its own bhavas( one it lords). So if we make the planet strong( like with a gem) it will still be in MKS if the karaka is not apeased or doesnt get the light from its Aditya.

The energy/light of the Adityas come from the JL, hence the connection with the same.

Thats how I understand this concept.

Best wishes

Sharat

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Tarun,

I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka

of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do

hope Gurus will give the explanation.

Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew about

this by now.

MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, planet

will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a

certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be in

a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of a

planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona

(rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can

see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the statement about

the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than Adityas

must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation that

planet doesn`t possess.

It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva.

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

 

sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg wrote:

>

> Hello Soul Sadhaka

>

> Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this

>

> As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji

> and other discussions is this:-

>

> 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its

> Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That

> means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect

> it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any

> combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also

lords

> only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?

>

> From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case

of

> MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into

> focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the

> MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that

remedy. I

> guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for

that

> house and that intern would make the experience of that house

better

> but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?

>

> The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels

> and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the

> MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I

> maybe wrong.

>

> I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I

> guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this

one

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun

>

> sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use

> > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,

> > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),

> > - worship Su

> > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are

ok) -

> > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or

the

> > bhava lorded by the planet in mks

> >

> > Please can someone clarify on the following:

> >

> > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So

if we

> > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of

the

> > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage -

or is

> > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and

enhance/maintain

> > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?

> >

> > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?

> > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all

qualitites

> > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and

keep

> > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?

> >

> > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can

voluntary

> > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of

those

> > houses?

> > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks

esp

> > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save

itz

> > signifactions)?

> > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in

8h, Su

> > in 12h, Ve in 6h)

> >

> > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana?

> > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?

> >

> > Thanx a tonne

> > SS

> >

>

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear SS,

I don`t think that letting any planet to die is a good idea. No

planet has only one role and even when it is a malefic it has a whole

range of things that come under its inflence. Every planet will be

involved in one of the important things for life-sustaining,

protection, growth... be it by lordship, conjunction or dristi.

MKS of malefic planets as AK is a bit different situation. It gives

good impulse for spirituality, but it will create problem in

relative.

The idea about manifestation is based on the nature of the planet and

the house. Yes, we can say that Rh will manifest in 9th but what kind

of manifestation is that? Will Rahu here manifest that what`s good

about him? What does Rahu know about Dharma, or Sun about

restriction, or Saturn about ideals...? Maybe we can say that it will

spoil the place out of the ignorance about it. That`s why we always

have to strenghten the karaka of the house where the MKS (i guess i

cleared my own doubts) and the planet itself if it holds the key to

vital resources-lagnseh, pakesh etc.

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> Dear Tijana/Tarun,

>

> the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying, shdnt

we

> let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will the

> luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need be

> strengthened?

>

> so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra (planet in

> mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is in 9h.

>

> actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) - cant

> say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that the lord

> of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence gemstone

for

> Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested.

>

> Thanx a tonne

> SS

>

>

> sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear Tarun,

> > I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS,

karaka

> > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i

do

> > hope Gurus will give the explanation.

> > Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew

about

> > this by now.

> > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is,

> planet

> > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in

a

> > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be

> in

> > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty

of

> a

> > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona

> > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i

can

> > see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the statement

> about

> > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than

> Adityas

> > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation

> that

> > planet doesn`t possess.

> > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from

Shiva.

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> >

> > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Soul Sadhaka

> > >

> > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this

> > >

> > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from

Visti

> Ji

> > > and other discussions is this:-

> > >

> > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to

its

> > > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless.

> That

> > > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant

> protect

> > > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any

> > > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also

> > lords

> > > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?

> > >

> > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe

> case

> > of

> > > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes

into

> > > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out

of

> the

> > > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that

> > remedy. I

> > > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka

for

> > that

> > > house and that intern would make the experience of that house

> > better

> > > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?

> > >

> > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul

> levels

> > > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in

> the

> > > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka

> Sthana. I

> > > maybe wrong.

> > >

> > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes

> so I

> > > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on

> this

> > one

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Tarun

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi All,

> > > >

> > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use

> > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,

> > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),

> > > > - worship Su

> > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem

> are

> > ok) -

> > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself)

> or

> > the

> > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks

> > > >

> > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites

destroyed.

> So

> > if we

> > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites

> of

> > the

> > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs

> courage -

> > or is

> > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and

> > enhance/maintain

> > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?

> > > >

> > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites

destroyed?

> > > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all

> > qualitites

> > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option

> and

> > keep

> > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain

good?

> > > >

> > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can

> > voluntary

> > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of

> > those

> > > > houses?

> > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in

> mks

> > esp

> > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to

> save

> > itz

> > > > signifactions)?

> > > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo

> in

> > 8h, Su

> > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)

> > > >

> > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords

dusthana?

> > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?

> > > >

> > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Tijana, Sadik, all, Marana K.S somehow escaped the picture- planet behaves as it it were dead, but IS still alive enough to give frustration related to its weakness in expressing its karakatva, protecting the houses lorded, the houses owned, and some natural significations. It's not just Rahu in 9th that escapes the picture altogether, or 6th H Venus dissapear- Rahu will 'work hard' spoiling your luck, religious devotion, Venus will be giving heart troubles, relationship problems. Planet never disappears, just its /+/ manifestations suffer and the planet will never never act HEALTHY- from a position of strenght. Healthy Mars full of energy and vitality, energizing whatever he touches, while when in MKS it brings lack of energy, 'thin skin', irritability, petty complainer, bad-thought action etc.. As Tijana said, it won't be desirable to 'lose' the planet, even it were possible /and it's

not!/ I was tought that planet with some and above mentioned weaknesses, can be easier dealt with through the planet which is favourably apecting it. If that's a bad Mars, for ex., Ju in aspect can offer unique back up and favourable effects to the native. My 2cts. Regards, AnnaSoul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Dear Tijana/Tarun,the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying, shdnt we let it die -why show it the Light from the

Luminary - will the luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need be strengthened? so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra (planet in mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is in 9h.actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) - cant say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that the lord of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence gemstone for Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested.Thanx a tonneSSsohamsa , "nix_nixen" <nix_nixen wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Tarun,> I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do > hope Gurus will give the explanation.> Karakatwas of the planet itself

and lordships are what i knew about > this by now. > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, planet > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be in > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of a > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can > see why Adityas for the process of "re-birth". If the statement about > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than Adityas > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation that > planet doesn`t possess. > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva.> Warm regards,> Tijana> > > sohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg@> wrote:> >> > Hello Soul Sadhaka> > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji> > and other discussions is this:-> > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its> > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That> > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect> > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any> > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also > lords> > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?> > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe

case > of> > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into> > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the> > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that > remedy. I> > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for > that> > house and that intern would make the experience of that house > better> > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?> > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels> > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the> > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I> > maybe wrong.> > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I> > guess we might have to wait, unless

Rafal ji can elaborate on this > one> > > > Regards> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi All,> > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> > > - worship Su > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are > ok) - > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or > the > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks> > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if

malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So > if we > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of > the > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - > or is > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > enhance/maintain > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all > qualitites > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and > keep > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can > voluntary > > > Donation / Fasting be an option

to save the signifactions of > those > > > houses? > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks > esp > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save > itz > > > signifactions)?> > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in > 8h, Su > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > SS> > >> >>

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear SS,

No Jyotish remedy can promote death of anything. Remedies are

diminshing or nullifying negative effects of a planet caused by bad

karma (on the level of particular planet) so the essence of the

remedy is penance-mantras, prayers, sacrifice... " Repairing " of life

is done only by God otherwise we would create a lot of mess throwing

out what we think is not needed etc.

In the particular example, the remedy will be given for Jupiter to

make him stronger in upholding the Dharma. This won`t cause death of

Rahu but will control his actions from the 9th. However, the question

is what will happen to the areas of life ruled by Rahu, especially in

the certain dasas (Narayana of the sign where Rahu is posited). Some

loss and fight for sustaining will be seen.

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> that does make sense Tijana, however, then why is stone for Ju

given

> and not for Ra in 9h (considering other factors in chart and of

> course we'd know that Ra is destroying dharma there/and fortune; so

> to counter Ra we strengthen the bhava/bhavakaraka) - arent we

> promoting Ra's death - to put it a bit euphemistically, reducing

the

> life force of Ra? - ((that is already in mks (dying?) - or does the

> term dying create a confusion.

>

> brgds,

> SS

>

> sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear SS,

> > I don`t think that letting any planet to die is a good idea. No

> > planet has only one role and even when it is a malefic it has a

> whole

> > range of things that come under its inflence. Every planet will

be

> > involved in one of the important things for life-sustaining,

> > protection, growth... be it by lordship, conjunction or dristi.

> > MKS of malefic planets as AK is a bit different situation. It

gives

> > good impulse for spirituality, but it will create problem in

> > relative.

> > The idea about manifestation is based on the nature of the planet

> and

> > the house. Yes, we can say that Rh will manifest in 9th but what

> kind

> > of manifestation is that? Will Rahu here manifest that what`s

good

> > about him? What does Rahu know about Dharma, or Sun about

> > restriction, or Saturn about ideals...? Maybe we can say that it

> will

> > spoil the place out of the ignorance about it. That`s why we

always

> > have to strenghten the karaka of the house where the MKS (i guess

i

> > cleared my own doubts) and the planet itself if it holds the key

to

> > vital resources-lagnseh, pakesh etc.

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tijana/Tarun,

> > >

> > > the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying,

shdnt

> > we

> > > let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will the

> > > luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need be

> > > strengthened?

> > >

> > > so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra (planet

> in

> > > mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is

in

> 9h.

> > >

> > > actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) -

> cant

> > > say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that the

> lord

> > > of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence

gemstone

> > for

> > > Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested.

> > >

> > > Thanx a tonne

> > > SS

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > > I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS,

> > karaka

> > > > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture

and

> i

> > do

> > > > hope Gurus will give the explanation.

> > > > Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew

> > about

> > > > this by now.

> > > > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is,

> > > planet

> > > > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations

are

> in

> > a

> > > > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will

not

> be

> > > in

> > > > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to

duty

> > of

> > > a

> > > > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet.

Moolatrikona

> > > > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here

i

> > can

> > > > see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the

statement

> > > about

> > > > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than

> > > Adityas

> > > > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the

> creation

> > > that

> > > > planet doesn`t possess.

> > > > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from

> > Shiva.

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Tijana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Soul Sadhaka

> > > > >

> > > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of

this

> > > > >

> > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from

> > Visti

> > > Ji

> > > > > and other discussions is this:-

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience

to

> > its

> > > > > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords

> helpless.

> > > That

> > > > > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord

cant

> > > protect

> > > > > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you

see

> any

> > > > > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and

> also

> > > > lords

> > > > > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?

> > > > >

> > > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that

> inthe

> > > case

> > > > of

> > > > > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening

comes

> > into

> > > > > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get

out

> > of

> > > the

> > > > > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for

that

> > > > remedy. I

> > > > > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the

Karaka

> > for

> > > > that

> > > > > house and that intern would make the experience of that

> house

> > > > better

> > > > > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into

MKS?

> > > > >

> > > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the

soul

> > > levels

> > > > > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet

is

> in

> > > the

> > > > > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka

> > > Sthana. I

> > > > > maybe wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras

> Classes

> > > so I

> > > > > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate

on

> > > this

> > > > one

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use

> > > > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,

> > > > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for

Sa),

> > > > > > - worship Su

> > > > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the

> gem

> > > are

> > > > ok) -

> > > > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks

> itself)

> > > or

> > > > the

> > > > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites

> > destroyed.

> > > So

> > > > if we

> > > > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the

> qualitites

> > > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs

> > > courage -

> > > > or is

> > > > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and

> > > > enhance/maintain

> > > > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites

> > destroyed?

> > > > > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance

all

> > > > qualitites

> > > > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem

> option

> > > and

> > > > keep

> > > > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and

maintain

> > good?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can

> > > > voluntary

> > > > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions

> of

> > > > those

> > > > > > houses?

> > > > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the

planet

> in

> > > mks

> > > > esp

> > > > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords

> (to

> > > save

> > > > itz

> > > > > > signifactions)?

> > > > > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana

> (Mo

> > > in

> > > > 8h, Su

> > > > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords

> > dusthana?

> > > > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be

best?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hare Rama Krishna

Dear SS,

Done with maleficiency? Barely yet began. With elaborating on it-most

certainly am.

Thank you for participating in this process of learning.

Warm regards,

Tijana

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

>

> Much appreciated, Tijana - mantras/prayers/penance do the best

Repair

> of the Life / Direction the veiled Soul is taking.

>

> and i guess what we r on the same page when we look at upholding

the

> Soul's ideals over the material existence in the long run to pay us

> better in that respect....that was the whole idea of asking why not

> let the maleficence die- ok -reduce - done?? :-)

>

> GodBless

> SS

> sohamsa , " tijana damjanovic " <nix_nixen@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > Dear SS,

> > No Jyotish remedy can promote death of anything. Remedies are

> > diminshing or nullifying negative effects of a planet caused by

bad

> > karma (on the level of particular planet) so the essence of the

> > remedy is penance-mantras, prayers, sacrifice... " Repairing " of

> life

> > is done only by God otherwise we would create a lot of mess

> throwing

> > out what we think is not needed etc.

> > In the particular example, the remedy will be given for Jupiter

to

> > make him stronger in upholding the Dharma. This won`t cause death

> of

> > Rahu but will control his actions from the 9th. However, the

> question

> > is what will happen to the areas of life ruled by Rahu,

especially

> in

> > the certain dasas (Narayana of the sign where Rahu is posited).

> Some

> > loss and fight for sustaining will be seen.

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> > >

> > > that does make sense Tijana, however, then why is stone for Ju

> > given

> > > and not for Ra in 9h (considering other factors in chart and of

> > > course we'd know that Ra is destroying dharma there/and

fortune;

> so

> > > to counter Ra we strengthen the bhava/bhavakaraka) - arent we

> > > promoting Ra's death - to put it a bit euphemistically,

reducing

> > the

> > > life force of Ra? - ((that is already in mks (dying?) - or does

> the

> > > term dying create a confusion.

> > >

> > > brgds,

> > > SS

> > >

> > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Dear SS,

> > > > I don`t think that letting any planet to die is a good idea.

No

> > > > planet has only one role and even when it is a malefic it has

a

> > > whole

> > > > range of things that come under its inflence. Every planet

will

> > be

> > > > involved in one of the important things for life-sustaining,

> > > > protection, growth... be it by lordship, conjunction or

dristi.

> > > > MKS of malefic planets as AK is a bit different situation. It

> > gives

> > > > good impulse for spirituality, but it will create problem in

> > > > relative.

> > > > The idea about manifestation is based on the nature of the

> planet

> > > and

> > > > the house. Yes, we can say that Rh will manifest in 9th but

> what

> > > kind

> > > > of manifestation is that? Will Rahu here manifest that what`s

> > good

> > > > about him? What does Rahu know about Dharma, or Sun about

> > > > restriction, or Saturn about ideals...? Maybe we can say that

> it

> > > will

> > > > spoil the place out of the ignorance about it. That`s why we

> > always

> > > > have to strenghten the karaka of the house where the MKS (i

> guess

> > i

> > > > cleared my own doubts) and the planet itself if it holds the

> key

> > to

> > > > vital resources-lagnseh, pakesh etc.

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Tijana

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Tijana/Tarun,

> > > > >

> > > > > the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying,

> > shdnt

> > > > we

> > > > > let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will

> the

> > > > > luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need

> be

> > > > > strengthened?

> > > > >

> > > > > so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra

> (planet

> > > in

> > > > > mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra

is

> > in

> > > 9h.

> > > > >

> > > > > actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor

Ju) -

>

> > > cant

> > > > > say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that

> the

> > > lord

> > > > > of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence

> > gemstone

> > > > for

> > > > > Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > > Dear Tarun,

> > > > > > I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of

> MKS,

> > > > karaka

> > > > > > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into

picture

> > and

> > > i

> > > > do

> > > > > > hope Gurus will give the explanation.

> > > > > > Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i

> knew

> > > > about

> > > > > > this by now.

> > > > > > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that

> is,

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal

significations

> > are

> > > in

> > > > a

> > > > > > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet

will

> > not

> > > be

> > > > > in

> > > > > > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related

to

> > duty

> > > > of

> > > > > a

> > > > > > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet.

> > Moolatrikona

> > > > > > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and

> here

> > i

> > > > can

> > > > > > see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the

> > statement

> > > > > about

> > > > > > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands,

> than

> > > > > Adityas

> > > > > > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the

> > > creation

> > > > > that

> > > > > > planet doesn`t possess.

> > > > > > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only

> from

> > > > Shiva.

> > > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > > Tijana

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello Soul Sadhaka

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of

> > this

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt

> from

> > > > Visti

> > > > > Ji

> > > > > > > and other discussions is this:-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad

> experience

> > to

> > > > its

> > > > > > > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords

> > > helpless.

> > > > > That

> > > > > > > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord

> > cant

> > > > > protect

> > > > > > > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can

you

> > see

> > > any

> > > > > > > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic

> and

> > > also

> > > > > > lords

> > > > > > > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted

that

> > > inthe

> > > > > case

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening

> > comes

> > > > into

> > > > > > > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to

get

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for

> > that

> > > > > > remedy. I

> > > > > > > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the

> > Karaka

> > > > for

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > house and that intern would make the experience of

that

> > > house

> > > > > > better

> > > > > > > but what about the lordships of the planet that went

into

> > MKS?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the

> > soul

> > > > > levels

> > > > > > > and I understood that they should be used incase a

planet

> > is

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana

> Karaka

> > > > > Sthana. I

> > > > > > > maybe wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras

> > > Classes

> > > > > so I

> > > > > > > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can

> elaborate

> > on

> > > > > this

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tarun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak "

> <soulsadhak@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can

use

> > > > > > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,

> > > > > > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna

for

> > Sa),

> > > > > > > > - worship Su

> > > > > > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for

> the

> > > gem

> > > > > are

> > > > > > ok) -

> > > > > > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks

> > > itself)

> > > > > or

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites

> > > > destroyed.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > if we

> > > > > > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the

> > > qualitites

> > > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression

vs

> > > > > courage -

> > > > > > or is

> > > > > > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and

> > > > > > enhance/maintain

> > > > > > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites

> > > > destroyed?

> > > > > > > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud

enhance

> > all

> > > > > > qualitites

> > > > > > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard

gem

> > > option

> > > > > and

> > > > > > keep

> > > > > > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and

> > maintain

> > > > good?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so

> can

> > > > > > voluntary

> > > > > > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the

> signifactions

> > > of

> > > > > > those

> > > > > > > > houses?

> > > > > > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the

> > planet

> > > in

> > > > > mks

> > > > > > esp

> > > > > > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it

> lords

> > > (to

> > > > > save

> > > > > > itz

> > > > > > > > signifactions)?

> > > > > > > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is

> dusthana

> > > (Mo

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 8h, Su

> > > > > > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords

> > > > dusthana?

> > > > > > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud

be

> > best?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste SS Ji,

 

Today, I was scanning the messages and I found this discussion is

interesting. I know our Gurus and learned members have already given

their thoughts on this. Let me add few more pointers from my point

of view.

 

As you know, there are four different types of Karmas 1) Sanchita

Karma (Sum of All past Actions), 2) Prarabdha Karma (Karma ready to

be experienced in this life), 3) Kriyamana Karma (Karma now being

sown) and 4) Agami Karma (Karma which has been foreseen / expected.)

A native goes thru the above Karmas in different periods of the life

time.

 

Some years ago, a native approached to me for help. He mentioned that

he is working very hard as there is a lot of work for him at office

and also he was experiencing a lot of stress at the office / work

too. So when I looked at his Rasi and Dasamsa Chart, I have noticed

that Surya is in Marana Karaka Shtana and this native's Surya Antar

Dasa is running when he consulted me.

 

The above described problem is a typical instances of

where " Prarabdha Karma " acts in the life of individuals. Marana

kaarakaa denotes not only physical death, it also signifies

instances in life where transformation is needed in the life of the

individual by way of adjustments, change of attitudes, change of

circumstances, etc.,

 

Important issues have to be resolved and the difficulties experienced

during these times are a part of the " Conditioning Process " of the

soul. It is best not to perform remedies for these. What is required

during these times is patience coupled with an unbiased and

objective appropriate response to the challenges of life.

 

These periods and sub-periods of maraka sthana planets in various

divisional charts are time-markers when " Prarabdha Karmas " related

to the different aspects of life can be expected to operate. It is

best to experience the results and learn from the experiences.

 

" Prarabdha Karmas " are very difficult to modify unless a person has a

very powerful will power and Absolute Faith in Divine Grace to

transform things coupled with patience. Obviously a normal person

cannot be expected to display such rare characteristics immersed as

they are in the maya called mundane physical existence.

 

So I have suggested to him : Sincere prayers to one's " Ishta Devata "

are the best supports during these periods as a remedy at a soul

level.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote:

Hi All,

 

Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use

- JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,

- worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),

- worship Su

- gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are

ok) - now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself)

or the bhava lorded by the planet in mks

 

Please can someone clarify on the following:

 

1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if

we use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of

the malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage -

or is it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and

enhance/maintain the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?

 

2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?

if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites

like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and

keep mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?

 

3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary

Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those

houses?

a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp

if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz

signifactions)?

b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h,

Su in 12h, Ve in 6h)

 

4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana?

then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?

 

Thanx a tonne

SS

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!Om Gurave Namah! Dear Raghunath Rao, Namaskar! Since one of the karakas of 10th House is in MKS, doesn't it mean that this aspect of life is badly damaged or even absent i.e. he will not be able to work or have severe problems in his work life? Let me know when you get a moment. Warm Regards, PranavSoul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Thank You RRji,i understand the essence of what you

have elaborated about karmic balances and experiences of the soul, it is just that while on the mundane level it was that mundane that came into focus, else i wish to be soulsadhak truly - but physical existence bids me to question it's aspects :-)Best Regards,SSsohamsa , "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" <raon1008 wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste SS Ji,> > Today, I was scanning the messages and I found this discussion is > interesting. I know our Gurus and learned members have already given > their thoughts on this. Let me add few more pointers from my point > of view.> > As you know, there are four different types of Karmas 1) Sanchita > Karma (Sum of All past Actions), 2) Prarabdha Karma (Karma ready to > be experienced in this life), 3) Kriyamana Karma (Karma

now being > sown) and 4) Agami Karma (Karma which has been foreseen / expected.) > A native goes thru the above Karmas in different periods of the life > time.> > Some years ago, a native approached to me for help. He mentioned that> he is working very hard as there is a lot of work for him at office> and also he was experiencing a lot of stress at the office / work > too. So when I looked at his Rasi and Dasamsa Chart, I have noticed > that Surya is in Marana Karaka Shtana and this native's Surya Antar > Dasa is running when he consulted me.> > The above described problem is a typical instances of > where "Prarabdha Karma" acts in the life of individuals. Marana > kaarakaa denotes not only physical death, it also signifies > instances in life where transformation is needed in the life of the > individual by way of adjustments, change of attitudes,

change of > circumstances, etc.,> > Important issues have to be resolved and the difficulties experienced> during these times are a part of the "Conditioning Process" of the> soul. It is best not to perform remedies for these. What is required > during these times is patience coupled with an unbiased and > objective appropriate response to the challenges of life.> > These periods and sub-periods of maraka sthana planets in various> divisional charts are time-markers when "Prarabdha Karmas" related > to the different aspects of life can be expected to operate. It is > best to experience the results and learn from the experiences.> > "Prarabdha Karmas" are very difficult to modify unless a person has a> very powerful will power and Absolute Faith in Divine Grace to> transform things coupled with patience. Obviously a normal person> cannot be

expected to display such rare characteristics immersed as> they are in the maya called mundane physical existence.> > So I have suggested to him : Sincere prayers to one's "Ishta Devata" > are the best supports during these periods as a remedy at a soul > level.> > Regards> Raghunatha Rao> > sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote:> Hi All,> > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use> - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,> - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> - worship Su> - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are > ok) - now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) > or the bhava lorded by the planet in mks> > Please can someone clarify on the

following:> > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if > we use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of > the malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage -> or is it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > enhance/maintain the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites> like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and > keep mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary> Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those> houses?> a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks

esp> if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz> signifactions)?> b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, > Su in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana?> then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> > Thanx a tonne> SS>

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