Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Om Gurave Namah, Dear Tijana and Tarun, I was clearing my mail after a long time being away from the list. In the process I found this mai, so I think there are some points which should be cleared. If you improve the karaka, Marana Sthana effects on the house will be neutralized. However, the lordship remains unattended and houses ruled by it will suffer due to decisions under the terrible circumstances. Normally under such circumstances Karak of that bhava must protect the house. There are so many things about Marana Sthana try to think. I will give a few hints. For example if Marana Sthana planet has Shtana bala, the mental resources of the planet will not be harmed, however physical aspect to it will suffer a lot, particularly in case of Asura Grahas..Sura Grahas behave differently... What happens when there is conjunction with a planet? How then Marana behaves? What about Tatva and Guna, who can help Marana planets in such cases? So many things. It is not as simple.. Have to leave now, Best wishes Zoran sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of nix_nixen20. srpanj 2007 22:34sohamsa Subject: Re: Planets in MKS and remedies Om Gurave NamahDear Tarun,I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do hope Gurus will give the explanation.Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew about this by now. MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, planet will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be in a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of a planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can see why Adityas for the process of "re-birth". If the statement about the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than Adityas must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation that planet doesn`t possess. It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg wrote:>> Hello Soul Sadhaka> > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji> and other discussions is this:-> > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its> Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That> means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect> it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any> combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also lords> only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?> > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of> MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into> focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the> MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I> guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that> house and that intern would make the experience of that house better> but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?> > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels> and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the> MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I> maybe wrong.> > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I> guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this one> > Regards> > Tarun> > sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote:> >> > Hi All,> > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> > - worship Su > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks> > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those > > houses? > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz > > signifactions)?> > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> > > > Thanx a tonne> > SS> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hello Soul Sadhaka Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji and other discussions is this:- 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also lords only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be? From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that house and that intern would make the experience of that house better but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS? The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I maybe wrong. I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this one Regards Tarun sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > Hi All, > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa), > - worship Su > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the > bhava lorded by the planet in mks > > Please can someone clarify on the following: > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone? > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed? > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good? > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those > houses? > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz > signifactions)? > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su > in 12h, Ve in 6h) > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best? > > Thanx a tonne > SS > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| These are quite complicated queries Please read within ** sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote:>> Hi All,> > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> - worship Su > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the > bhava lorded by the planet in mks **For MKS planets we can use Adityas, which can get activated by JL mantras..so both seem right. Worship of the Karaka of that planet is also right. **Gems for planets in MKS can make their signification stronger and can be used, like Pukhraj for Guru in MKS in 3H, provided it is good for the lagna and natal chart. **Gem for Karaka of the bhava..is a thought.. but seems like stretching it a bit . It has to be the bhava which houses the MKS planet. I woudnt go after this one.> > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> **MKS planets' bhava significations get destroyed, the one it owns. By itself it may be strong depending upon avastha and bhava; like Guru in 3H is MKS but is good as it aspects 9H of fortune. > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those > houses? ** If one worships the karaka's of those bhavas that could save them. > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz > signifactions)?> b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su > in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> **Like for Taur asc, Venus lords 6H and is MKS if placed in it. This still needs remedy. Worship karaka ..Shiva worship helps. > Thanx a tonne> SS **On a different note, could you recommend Shiva dhyana for Shiva panchakshari Best wishes Sharat Misra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Tarun, >> From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of> MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into> focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the> MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I> guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that> house and that intern would make the experience of that house better> but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS? ** Adityas are givers of all resources, they can endow the karaka with the same. Karaka then makes it easy for the MKS planet it tenants, so it doesnt feel like dying; if that happens then the planet can save its own bhavas( one it lords). So if we make the planet strong( like with a gem) it will still be in MKS if the karaka is not apeased or doesnt get the light from its Aditya. The energy/light of the Adityas come from the JL, hence the connection with the same. Thats how I understand this concept. Best wishes Sharat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear Tarun, I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do hope Gurus will give the explanation. Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew about this by now. MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, planet will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be in a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of a planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the statement about the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than Adityas must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation that planet doesn`t possess. It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg wrote: > > Hello Soul Sadhaka > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji > and other discussions is this:- > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also lords > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be? > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case of > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that remedy. I > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for that > house and that intern would make the experience of that house better > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS? > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I > maybe wrong. > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this one > > Regards > > Tarun > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa), > > - worship Su > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following: > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone? > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed? > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good? > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those > > houses? > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz > > signifactions)? > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su > > in 12h, Ve in 6h) > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best? > > > > Thanx a tonne > > SS > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear SS, I don`t think that letting any planet to die is a good idea. No planet has only one role and even when it is a malefic it has a whole range of things that come under its inflence. Every planet will be involved in one of the important things for life-sustaining, protection, growth... be it by lordship, conjunction or dristi. MKS of malefic planets as AK is a bit different situation. It gives good impulse for spirituality, but it will create problem in relative. The idea about manifestation is based on the nature of the planet and the house. Yes, we can say that Rh will manifest in 9th but what kind of manifestation is that? Will Rahu here manifest that what`s good about him? What does Rahu know about Dharma, or Sun about restriction, or Saturn about ideals...? Maybe we can say that it will spoil the place out of the ignorance about it. That`s why we always have to strenghten the karaka of the house where the MKS (i guess i cleared my own doubts) and the planet itself if it holds the key to vital resources-lagnseh, pakesh etc. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > Dear Tijana/Tarun, > > the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying, shdnt we > let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will the > luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need be > strengthened? > > so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra (planet in > mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is in 9h. > > actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) - cant > say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that the lord > of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence gemstone for > Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested. > > Thanx a tonne > SS > > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Tarun, > > I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka > > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do > > hope Gurus will give the explanation. > > Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew about > > this by now. > > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, > planet > > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a > > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be > in > > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of > a > > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona > > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can > > see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the statement > about > > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than > Adityas > > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation > that > > planet doesn`t possess. > > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Soul Sadhaka > > > > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti > Ji > > > and other discussions is this:- > > > > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its > > > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. > That > > > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant > protect > > > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any > > > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also > > lords > > > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be? > > > > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe > case > > of > > > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into > > > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of > the > > > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that > > remedy. I > > > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for > > that > > > house and that intern would make the experience of that house > > better > > > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS? > > > > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul > levels > > > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in > the > > > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka > Sthana. I > > > maybe wrong. > > > > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes > so I > > > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on > this > > one > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa), > > > > - worship Su > > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem > are > > ok) - > > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) > or > > the > > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks > > > > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following: > > > > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. > So > > if we > > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites > of > > the > > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs > courage - > > or is > > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > > enhance/maintain > > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone? > > > > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed? > > > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all > > qualitites > > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option > and > > keep > > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good? > > > > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can > > voluntary > > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of > > those > > > > houses? > > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in > mks > > esp > > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to > save > > itz > > > > signifactions)? > > > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo > in > > 8h, Su > > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h) > > > > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best? > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Dear Tijana, Sadik, all, Marana K.S somehow escaped the picture- planet behaves as it it were dead, but IS still alive enough to give frustration related to its weakness in expressing its karakatva, protecting the houses lorded, the houses owned, and some natural significations. It's not just Rahu in 9th that escapes the picture altogether, or 6th H Venus dissapear- Rahu will 'work hard' spoiling your luck, religious devotion, Venus will be giving heart troubles, relationship problems. Planet never disappears, just its /+/ manifestations suffer and the planet will never never act HEALTHY- from a position of strenght. Healthy Mars full of energy and vitality, energizing whatever he touches, while when in MKS it brings lack of energy, 'thin skin', irritability, petty complainer, bad-thought action etc.. As Tijana said, it won't be desirable to 'lose' the planet, even it were possible /and it's not!/ I was tought that planet with some and above mentioned weaknesses, can be easier dealt with through the planet which is favourably apecting it. If that's a bad Mars, for ex., Ju in aspect can offer unique back up and favourable effects to the native. My 2cts. Regards, AnnaSoul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Dear Tijana/Tarun,the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying, shdnt we let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will the luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need be strengthened? so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra (planet in mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is in 9h.actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) - cant say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that the lord of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence gemstone for Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested.Thanx a tonneSSsohamsa , "nix_nixen" <nix_nixen wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah> Dear Tarun,> I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, karaka > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and i do > hope Gurus will give the explanation.> Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew about > this by now. > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, planet > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are in a > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not be in > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty of a > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i can > see why Adityas for the process of "re-birth". If the statement about > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than Adityas > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the creation that > planet doesn`t possess. > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from Shiva.> Warm regards,> Tijana> > > sohamsa , "tarungarg" <tarungarg@> wrote:> >> > Hello Soul Sadhaka> > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from Visti Ji> > and other discussions is this:-> > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to its> > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords helpless. That> > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant protect> > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see any> > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and also > lords> > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be?> > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that inthe case > of> > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes into> > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out of the> > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that > remedy. I> > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka for > that> > house and that intern would make the experience of that house > better> > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS?> > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul levels> > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is in the> > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka Sthana. I> > maybe wrong.> > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras Classes so I> > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on this > one> > > > Regards> > > > Tarun> > > > sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi All,> > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> > > - worship Su > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are > ok) - > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or > the > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks> > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So > if we > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of > the > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - > or is > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > enhance/maintain > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all > qualitites > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and > keep > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can > voluntary > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of > those > > > houses? > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks > esp > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save > itz > > > signifactions)?> > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in > 8h, Su > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > SS> > >> >> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Dear SS, No Jyotish remedy can promote death of anything. Remedies are diminshing or nullifying negative effects of a planet caused by bad karma (on the level of particular planet) so the essence of the remedy is penance-mantras, prayers, sacrifice... " Repairing " of life is done only by God otherwise we would create a lot of mess throwing out what we think is not needed etc. In the particular example, the remedy will be given for Jupiter to make him stronger in upholding the Dharma. This won`t cause death of Rahu but will control his actions from the 9th. However, the question is what will happen to the areas of life ruled by Rahu, especially in the certain dasas (Narayana of the sign where Rahu is posited). Some loss and fight for sustaining will be seen. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > that does make sense Tijana, however, then why is stone for Ju given > and not for Ra in 9h (considering other factors in chart and of > course we'd know that Ra is destroying dharma there/and fortune; so > to counter Ra we strengthen the bhava/bhavakaraka) - arent we > promoting Ra's death - to put it a bit euphemistically, reducing the > life force of Ra? - ((that is already in mks (dying?) - or does the > term dying create a confusion. > > brgds, > SS > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear SS, > > I don`t think that letting any planet to die is a good idea. No > > planet has only one role and even when it is a malefic it has a > whole > > range of things that come under its inflence. Every planet will be > > involved in one of the important things for life-sustaining, > > protection, growth... be it by lordship, conjunction or dristi. > > MKS of malefic planets as AK is a bit different situation. It gives > > good impulse for spirituality, but it will create problem in > > relative. > > The idea about manifestation is based on the nature of the planet > and > > the house. Yes, we can say that Rh will manifest in 9th but what > kind > > of manifestation is that? Will Rahu here manifest that what`s good > > about him? What does Rahu know about Dharma, or Sun about > > restriction, or Saturn about ideals...? Maybe we can say that it > will > > spoil the place out of the ignorance about it. That`s why we always > > have to strenghten the karaka of the house where the MKS (i guess i > > cleared my own doubts) and the planet itself if it holds the key to > > vital resources-lagnseh, pakesh etc. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tijana/Tarun, > > > > > > the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying, shdnt > > we > > > let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will the > > > luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need be > > > strengthened? > > > > > > so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra (planet > in > > > mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is in > 9h. > > > > > > actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) - > cant > > > say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that the > lord > > > of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence gemstone > > for > > > Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested. > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > SS > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear Tarun, > > > > I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of MKS, > > karaka > > > > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture and > i > > do > > > > hope Gurus will give the explanation. > > > > Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i knew > > about > > > > this by now. > > > > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that is, > > > planet > > > > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations are > in > > a > > > > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will not > be > > > in > > > > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to duty > > of > > > a > > > > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. Moolatrikona > > > > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and here i > > can > > > > see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the statement > > > about > > > > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, than > > > Adityas > > > > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the > creation > > > that > > > > planet doesn`t possess. > > > > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only from > > Shiva. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Soul Sadhaka > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of this > > > > > > > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt from > > Visti > > > Ji > > > > > and other discussions is this:- > > > > > > > > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad experience to > > its > > > > > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords > helpless. > > > That > > > > > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord cant > > > protect > > > > > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you see > any > > > > > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic and > also > > > > lords > > > > > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be? > > > > > > > > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that > inthe > > > case > > > > of > > > > > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening comes > > into > > > > > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get out > > of > > > the > > > > > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for that > > > > remedy. I > > > > > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the Karaka > > for > > > > that > > > > > house and that intern would make the experience of that > house > > > > better > > > > > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into MKS? > > > > > > > > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the soul > > > levels > > > > > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet is > in > > > the > > > > > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana Karaka > > > Sthana. I > > > > > maybe wrong. > > > > > > > > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras > Classes > > > so I > > > > > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can elaborate on > > > this > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > > > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > > > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa), > > > > > > - worship Su > > > > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the > gem > > > are > > > > ok) - > > > > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks > itself) > > > or > > > > the > > > > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites > > destroyed. > > > So > > > > if we > > > > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the > qualitites > > > of > > > > the > > > > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs > > > courage - > > > > or is > > > > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > > > > enhance/maintain > > > > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites > > destroyed? > > > > > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all > > > > qualitites > > > > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem > option > > > and > > > > keep > > > > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain > > good? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can > > > > voluntary > > > > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions > of > > > > those > > > > > > houses? > > > > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet > in > > > mks > > > > esp > > > > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords > (to > > > save > > > > itz > > > > > > signifactions)? > > > > > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana > (Mo > > > in > > > > 8h, Su > > > > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h) > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords > > dusthana? > > > > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hare Rama Krishna Dear SS, Done with maleficiency? Barely yet began. With elaborating on it-most certainly am. Thank you for participating in this process of learning. Warm regards, Tijana sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: > > Much appreciated, Tijana - mantras/prayers/penance do the best Repair > of the Life / Direction the veiled Soul is taking. > > and i guess what we r on the same page when we look at upholding the > Soul's ideals over the material existence in the long run to pay us > better in that respect....that was the whole idea of asking why not > let the maleficence die- ok -reduce - done?? :-) > > GodBless > SS > sohamsa , " tijana damjanovic " <nix_nixen@> > wrote: > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear SS, > > No Jyotish remedy can promote death of anything. Remedies are > > diminshing or nullifying negative effects of a planet caused by bad > > karma (on the level of particular planet) so the essence of the > > remedy is penance-mantras, prayers, sacrifice... " Repairing " of > life > > is done only by God otherwise we would create a lot of mess > throwing > > out what we think is not needed etc. > > In the particular example, the remedy will be given for Jupiter to > > make him stronger in upholding the Dharma. This won`t cause death > of > > Rahu but will control his actions from the 9th. However, the > question > > is what will happen to the areas of life ruled by Rahu, especially > in > > the certain dasas (Narayana of the sign where Rahu is posited). > Some > > loss and fight for sustaining will be seen. > > Warm regards, > > Tijana > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > that does make sense Tijana, however, then why is stone for Ju > > given > > > and not for Ra in 9h (considering other factors in chart and of > > > course we'd know that Ra is destroying dharma there/and fortune; > so > > > to counter Ra we strengthen the bhava/bhavakaraka) - arent we > > > promoting Ra's death - to put it a bit euphemistically, reducing > > the > > > life force of Ra? - ((that is already in mks (dying?) - or does > the > > > term dying create a confusion. > > > > > > brgds, > > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Dear SS, > > > > I don`t think that letting any planet to die is a good idea. No > > > > planet has only one role and even when it is a malefic it has a > > > whole > > > > range of things that come under its inflence. Every planet will > > be > > > > involved in one of the important things for life-sustaining, > > > > protection, growth... be it by lordship, conjunction or dristi. > > > > MKS of malefic planets as AK is a bit different situation. It > > gives > > > > good impulse for spirituality, but it will create problem in > > > > relative. > > > > The idea about manifestation is based on the nature of the > planet > > > and > > > > the house. Yes, we can say that Rh will manifest in 9th but > what > > > kind > > > > of manifestation is that? Will Rahu here manifest that what`s > > good > > > > about him? What does Rahu know about Dharma, or Sun about > > > > restriction, or Saturn about ideals...? Maybe we can say that > it > > > will > > > > spoil the place out of the ignorance about it. That`s why we > > always > > > > have to strenghten the karaka of the house where the MKS (i > guess > > i > > > > cleared my own doubts) and the planet itself if it holds the > key > > to > > > > vital resources-lagnseh, pakesh etc. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tijana/Tarun, > > > > > > > > > > the question remains that if say Ra in 9h is already dying, > > shdnt > > > > we > > > > > let it die -why show it the Light from the Luminary - will > the > > > > > luminary enlighten ra or the bhava or the bhava's lord need > be > > > > > strengthened? > > > > > > > > > > so JL mantra shd be for bhava/bhava-lord (Ju) or for Ra > (planet > > > in > > > > > mks) - what wud be the case if Ra is AK vs Ju is AK and Ra is > > in > > > 9h. > > > > > > > > > > actually Ra in 9h is destroying fortune (nat signifactor Ju) - > > > > cant > > > > > say Ra here is not able to manifest itself - it seems that > the > > > lord > > > > > of the bhava (Ju) is not able to manifest itself - hence > > gemstone > > > > for > > > > > Ju (nat karaka) of the mks for Ra is suggested. > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " nix_nixen " <nix_nixen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > Dear Tarun, > > > > > > I also have doubts on the statement that in the case of > MKS, > > > > karaka > > > > > > of the house where the MKS is happening comes into picture > > and > > > i > > > > do > > > > > > hope Gurus will give the explanation. > > > > > > Karakatwas of the planet itself and lordships are what i > knew > > > > about > > > > > > this by now. > > > > > > MKS is related to the primal function of the planet, that > is, > > > > > planet > > > > > > will feel as dead in the bhava whose primal significations > > are > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > certain opposition to the planet`s karakatwas, planet will > > not > > > be > > > > > in > > > > > > a position to manifest itself. This is strongly related to > > duty > > > > of > > > > > a > > > > > > planet or the concept of moolatrikona of a planet. > > Moolatrikona > > > > > > (rooth trine) coincide with the three nabhis-Brahma and > here > > i > > > > can > > > > > > see why Adityas for the process of " re-birth " . If the > > statement > > > > > about > > > > > > the karaka of the house where the MKS is posited stands, > than > > > > > Adityas > > > > > > must stand here for the knowledge about the part of the > > > creation > > > > > that > > > > > > planet doesn`t possess. > > > > > > It`s clear why Shiva linga for AK as Atma can come only > from > > > > Shiva. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Tijana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " tarungarg " <tarungarg@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Soul Sadhaka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to share with the group my understanding of > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As per my understanding so far from what I have learnt > from > > > > Visti > > > > > Ji > > > > > > > and other discussions is this:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. If there is a planet in MKS then we have bad > experience > > to > > > > its > > > > > > > Karakatwa. But it also leads the bhavas that it lords > > > helpless. > > > > > That > > > > > > > means that any malefic influence on the bhavas the lord > > cant > > > > > protect > > > > > > > it and thus the bhava gets destroyed. Then again can you > > see > > > any > > > > > > > combination where there is a planet which is a malefic > and > > > also > > > > > > lords > > > > > > > only evil bhavas? I mean what lagna would that be? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the discussions on Srigaruda.com it was hinted that > > > inthe > > > > > case > > > > > > of > > > > > > > MKS the karaka of the house where the MKS is happening > > comes > > > > into > > > > > > > focus and we should use the Aditya for that Karaka to get > > out > > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > MKS. I still cant understand what is the real basis for > > that > > > > > > remedy. I > > > > > > > guess the Aditya would help give more resources to the > > Karaka > > > > for > > > > > > that > > > > > > > house and that intern would make the experience of that > > > house > > > > > > better > > > > > > > but what about the lordships of the planet that went into > > MKS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Jyotirlinga mantras I understand are working at the > > soul > > > > > levels > > > > > > > and I understood that they should be used incase a planet > > is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > MKS of the AK from it or the AK itself is in marana > Karaka > > > > > Sthana. I > > > > > > > maybe wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that most of the Gurus are in the Jaimini Sutras > > > Classes > > > > > so I > > > > > > > guess we might have to wait, unless Rafal ji can > elaborate > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " > <soulsadhak@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use > > > > > > > > - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, > > > > > > > > - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for > > Sa), > > > > > > > > - worship Su > > > > > > > > - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for > the > > > gem > > > > > are > > > > > > ok) - > > > > > > > > now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks > > > itself) > > > > > or > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > bhava lorded by the planet in mks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can someone clarify on the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites > > > > destroyed. > > > > > So > > > > > > if we > > > > > > > > use the above options, will it not enhance all the > > > qualitites > > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs > > > > > courage - > > > > > > or is > > > > > > > > it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > > > > > > enhance/maintain > > > > > > > > the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites > > > > destroyed? > > > > > > > > if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance > > all > > > > > > qualitites > > > > > > > > like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem > > > option > > > > > and > > > > > > keep > > > > > > > > mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and > > maintain > > > > good? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so > can > > > > > > voluntary > > > > > > > > Donation / Fasting be an option to save the > signifactions > > > of > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > houses? > > > > > > > > a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the > > planet > > > in > > > > > mks > > > > > > esp > > > > > > > > if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it > lords > > > (to > > > > > save > > > > > > itz > > > > > > > > signifactions)? > > > > > > > > b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is > dusthana > > > (Mo > > > > > in > > > > > > 8h, Su > > > > > > > > in 12h, Ve in 6h) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords > > > > dusthana? > > > > > > > > then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be > > best? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Om Gurave Namah Namaste SS Ji, Today, I was scanning the messages and I found this discussion is interesting. I know our Gurus and learned members have already given their thoughts on this. Let me add few more pointers from my point of view. As you know, there are four different types of Karmas 1) Sanchita Karma (Sum of All past Actions), 2) Prarabdha Karma (Karma ready to be experienced in this life), 3) Kriyamana Karma (Karma now being sown) and 4) Agami Karma (Karma which has been foreseen / expected.) A native goes thru the above Karmas in different periods of the life time. Some years ago, a native approached to me for help. He mentioned that he is working very hard as there is a lot of work for him at office and also he was experiencing a lot of stress at the office / work too. So when I looked at his Rasi and Dasamsa Chart, I have noticed that Surya is in Marana Karaka Shtana and this native's Surya Antar Dasa is running when he consulted me. The above described problem is a typical instances of where " Prarabdha Karma " acts in the life of individuals. Marana kaarakaa denotes not only physical death, it also signifies instances in life where transformation is needed in the life of the individual by way of adjustments, change of attitudes, change of circumstances, etc., Important issues have to be resolved and the difficulties experienced during these times are a part of the " Conditioning Process " of the soul. It is best not to perform remedies for these. What is required during these times is patience coupled with an unbiased and objective appropriate response to the challenges of life. These periods and sub-periods of maraka sthana planets in various divisional charts are time-markers when " Prarabdha Karmas " related to the different aspects of life can be expected to operate. It is best to experience the results and learn from the experiences. " Prarabdha Karmas " are very difficult to modify unless a person has a very powerful will power and Absolute Faith in Divine Grace to transform things coupled with patience. Obviously a normal person cannot be expected to display such rare characteristics immersed as they are in the maya called mundane physical existence. So I have suggested to him : Sincere prayers to one's " Ishta Devata " are the best supports during these periods as a remedy at a soul level. Regards Raghunatha Rao sohamsa , " Soul Sadhak " <soulsadhak wrote: Hi All, Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet, - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa), - worship Su - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are ok) - now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) or the bhava lorded by the planet in mks Please can someone clarify on the following: 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if we use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of the malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage - or is it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and enhance/maintain the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone? 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed? if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and keep mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good? 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those houses? a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz signifactions)? b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, Su in 12h, Ve in 6h) 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana? then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best? Thanx a tonne SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2007 Report Share Posted August 8, 2007 !Om Gurave Namah! Dear Raghunath Rao, Namaskar! Since one of the karakas of 10th House is in MKS, doesn't it mean that this aspect of life is badly damaged or even absent i.e. he will not be able to work or have severe problems in his work life? Let me know when you get a moment. Warm Regards, PranavSoul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Thank You RRji,i understand the essence of what you have elaborated about karmic balances and experiences of the soul, it is just that while on the mundane level it was that mundane that came into focus, else i wish to be soulsadhak truly - but physical existence bids me to question it's aspects :-)Best Regards,SSsohamsa , "Raghunatha Rao Nemani" <raon1008 wrote:>> Om Gurave Namah> > Namaste SS Ji,> > Today, I was scanning the messages and I found this discussion is > interesting. I know our Gurus and learned members have already given > their thoughts on this. Let me add few more pointers from my point > of view.> > As you know, there are four different types of Karmas 1) Sanchita > Karma (Sum of All past Actions), 2) Prarabdha Karma (Karma ready to > be experienced in this life), 3) Kriyamana Karma (Karma now being > sown) and 4) Agami Karma (Karma which has been foreseen / expected.) > A native goes thru the above Karmas in different periods of the life > time.> > Some years ago, a native approached to me for help. He mentioned that> he is working very hard as there is a lot of work for him at office> and also he was experiencing a lot of stress at the office / work > too. So when I looked at his Rasi and Dasamsa Chart, I have noticed > that Surya is in Marana Karaka Shtana and this native's Surya Antar > Dasa is running when he consulted me.> > The above described problem is a typical instances of > where "Prarabdha Karma" acts in the life of individuals. Marana > kaarakaa denotes not only physical death, it also signifies > instances in life where transformation is needed in the life of the > individual by way of adjustments, change of attitudes, change of > circumstances, etc.,> > Important issues have to be resolved and the difficulties experienced> during these times are a part of the "Conditioning Process" of the> soul. It is best not to perform remedies for these. What is required > during these times is patience coupled with an unbiased and > objective appropriate response to the challenges of life.> > These periods and sub-periods of maraka sthana planets in various> divisional charts are time-markers when "Prarabdha Karmas" related > to the different aspects of life can be expected to operate. It is > best to experience the results and learn from the experiences.> > "Prarabdha Karmas" are very difficult to modify unless a person has a> very powerful will power and Absolute Faith in Divine Grace to> transform things coupled with patience. Obviously a normal person> cannot be expected to display such rare characteristics immersed as> they are in the maya called mundane physical existence.> > So I have suggested to him : Sincere prayers to one's "Ishta Devata" > are the best supports during these periods as a remedy at a soul > level.> > Regards> Raghunatha Rao> > sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@> wrote:> Hi All,> > Wat i cud gather is that for planets in mks, we can use> - JL (jyotirling mantra) for the respective planet,> - worship deity for the respective planet (?Varuna for Sa),> - worship Su> - gem for bhavakaraka (provided other requisites for the gem are > ok) - now is tha bhava that of placement of mks planet (mks itself) > or the bhava lorded by the planet in mks> > Please can someone clarify on the following:> > 1. Plaent in mks if malefic has it's bad qualitites destroyed. So if > we use the above options, will it not enhance all the qualitites of > the malefic (bad and good) - like Ma: too much agression vs courage -> or is it like the mantra/worship wud mitigate the bad and > enhance/maintain the good? and we can opt out of the gemstone?> > 2. Pl in mks if benefic wud have it's good qualitites destroyed?> if yes, then again, the worship/mantra/gem wud enhance all qualitites> like Ve: creativity vs. exc passion, or we discard gem option and > keep mantra/worship expecting them to mitigate bad and maintain good?> > 3. Pl in mks have the houses they lord destroyed, so can voluntary> Donation / Fasting be an option to save the signifactions of those> houses?> a. If yes, then wud the donation/fasting be for the planet in mks esp> if malefic (to get itz bad destroyed) or the hs it lords (to save itz> signifactions)?> b. wud donation/fast be beneficial if the mks is dusthana (Mo in 8h, > Su in 12h, Ve in 6h)> > 4. wudnt it be gud to have a planet in mks that lords dusthana?> then no remedy wud be needed? if needed - which wud be best?> > Thanx a tonne> SS> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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