Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear SS, This is because Ketu represents mahasunyam. Ketu in tenth gives havoc planning, quick mind (10H is Mana also) and administration havoc (if strong then good intuition), this graha when in fifth, tenth or tenth from Moon can be very bad for career and native often has delays in his profesional life. Malefics in Upachaya are good for native support and work - they also give long life and raja yoga. Hope this helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Soul Sadhak napisał(a): Hi All, It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of that hs are denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, the hs 2nd to the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs of concern; so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then fruits as indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the statement of COVA pertain to 10h. Thanx a tonne SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Rafal, That is an interesting comment. Sanjay ji does say in one his lectures that the arudha associated with Ketu, shows the area of life we can make a mistake. I have seen Ketu in 10H as well as 10th from Moon, associated with great careers, so will it not depend upon how auspicious Ra-Ket are in one's chart. Can you please say when do we consider Ra-Ket to give Rajyoga apart from being in upachayas. Thanks and regards Sharatsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear SS,> > This is because Ketu represents mahasunyam. Ketu in tenth gives havoc > planning, quick mind (10H is Mana also) and administration havoc (if > strong then good intuition), this graha when in fifth, tenth or tenth > from Moon can be very bad for career and native often has delays in his > profesional life. Malefics in Upachaya are good for native support and > work - they also give long life and raja yoga.> > Hope this helps.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> >> > Hi All,> >> > It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of that hs are> > denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, the hs 2nd to> > the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs of concern;> > so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then fruits as> > indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the statement of> > COVA pertain to 10h.> >> > Thanx a tonne> > SS> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, When they conjoin Rajayoga like Yogakaraka or are strong in 3/6 from AL. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Sharat napisał(a): ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Rafal, That is an interesting comment. Sanjay ji does say in one his lectures that the arudha associated with Ketu, shows the area of life we can make a mistake. I have seen Ketu in 10H as well as 10th from Moon, associated with great careers, so will it not depend upon how auspicious Ra-Ket are in one's chart. Can you please say when do we consider Ra-Ket to give Rajyoga apart from being in upachayas. Thanks and regards Sharat sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear SS, > > This is because Ketu represents mahasunyam. Ketu in tenth gives havoc > planning, quick mind (10H is Mana also) and administration havoc (if > strong then good intuition), this graha when in fifth, tenth or tenth > from Moon can be very bad for career and native often has delays in his > profesional life. Malefics in Upachaya are good for native support and > work - they also give long life and raja yoga. > > Hope this helps. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > Hi All, > > > > It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of that hs are > > denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, the hs 2nd to > > the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs of concern; > > so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then fruits as > > indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the statement of > > COVA pertain to 10h. > > > > Thanx a tonne > > SS > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear SS, Please remember that D1 10H will show how you work and will show situation in work, tenth bhava in D9 will show association and fruits (wealth), while D10 will show exact nature of job. Ketu in tenth from Moon can give support from spiritual people but this yoga needs other assisting placements to be auspicious. Ketu in tenth from Rasi will show that one works in very spontanous way and His mind is working at fast speed. I have one example with that. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Soul Sadhak napisał(a): Thanx Rafal and Sharat, So what we r saying is that the statement in COVA pertains to the hs of placement and not to the one 2nd to it? Also what is an ill-placed Ke in 7th hs? (same pg)....does it mean that Ke in any hs other than upachaya is ill-placed or that there can be something like a well-placed Ke in 7h to? (like for benefics, if they r in friend's hs /well aspected/conj benefics etc makes them well-placed - howz it for Ke in quadrants and trines? Ke we say makes one headless (eg headless executor...shd say executive?) or spiritual so if Ke is in 10h cud it well be that the person's work is asso. with spiritual type of work or say in spiritual organisation? Thanx a tonne SS sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > Sharat napisa?(a): > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > That is an interesting comment. Sanjay ji does say in one his lectures > > that the arudha associated with Ketu, shows the area of life we can > > make a mistake. > > > > I have seen Ketu in 10H as well as 10th from Moon, associated with > > great careers, so will it not depend upon how auspicious Ra-Ket are > > in one's chart. > > > > Can you please say when do we consider Ra-Ket to give Rajyoga apart > > from being in upachayas. > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Sharat > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear SS, > > > > > > This is because Ketu represents mahasunyam. Ketu in tenth gives havoc > > > planning, quick mind (10H is Mana also) and administration havoc (if > > > strong then good intuition), this graha when in fifth, tenth or tenth > > > from Moon can be very bad for career and native often has delays in his > > > profesional life. Malefics in Upachaya are good for native support and > > > work - they also give long life and raja yoga. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of that hs are > > > > denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, the hs 2nd to > > > > the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs of concern; > > > > so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then fruits as > > > > indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the statement of > > > > COVA pertain to 10h. > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Dear SS, Ketu in 7H, can give ' adultery' esp if Ve is in 12H (curse of Tulsi). As Rafal ji said, Ketu in 10H from Rasi shows how you work..the work is likely to be routine. But I can appreciate as Rafal says that it can show someone who thinks spontaneously and quickly, I know such a person too. It is said thta Ke in 10H in D10 can show someone who works with small machines, computers. Best wishes Sharat - Soul Sadhak sohamsa Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:50 AM Re: fruits of a house Thanx Rafal and Sharat,So what we r saying is that the statement in COVA pertains to the hs of placement and not to the one 2nd to it?Also what is an ill-placed Ke in 7th hs? (same pg)....does it mean that Ke in any hs other than upachaya is ill-placed or that there can be something like a well-placed Ke in 7h to?(like for benefics, if they r in friend's hs /well aspected/conj benefics etc makes them well-placed - howz it for Ke in quadrants and trines?Ke we say makes one headless (eg headless executor...shd say executive?) or spiritual so if Ke is in 10h cud it well be that the person's work is asso. with spiritual type of work or say in spiritual organisation?Thanx a tonneSSsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > > Sharat napisa?(a):> >> > ||Namah Shivaya||> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > That is an interesting comment. Sanjay ji does say in one his lectures > > that the arudha associated with Ketu, shows the area of life we can > > make a mistake.> >> > I have seen Ketu in 10H as well as 10th from Moon, associated with > > great careers, so will it not depend upon how auspicious Ra-Ket are > > in one's chart.> >> > Can you please say when do we consider Ra-Ket to give Rajyoga apart > > from being in upachayas.> >> > Thanks and regards> >> > Sharat> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear SS,> > >> > > This is because Ketu represents mahasunyam. Ketu in tenth gives havoc> > > planning, quick mind (10H is Mana also) and administration havoc (if> > > strong then good intuition), this graha when in fifth, tenth or tenth> > > from Moon can be very bad for career and native often has delays in his> > > profesional life. Malefics in Upachaya are good for native support and> > > work - they also give long life and raja yoga.> > >> > > Hope this helps.> > >> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > >> > >> > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > Hi All,> > > >> > > > It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of that hs are> > > > denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, the hs 2nd to> > > > the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs of concern;> > > > so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then fruits as> > > > indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the statement of> > > > COVA pertain to 10h.> > > >> > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > SS> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear SS, 1. In D10, artha trikona, shows work,the lords and planets influence that along with dasas. So Ketu can show type of job, like export, military/covert operations, dealing with small machinery, computers 2.D10 , 10L can show actual skills so Ketu in 10H can indicate ketu like activity- routine/sudden/headless/intutive..so all is not bad here. If Ketu can be intuitive, it can also be spontaneous and quick. 3.Ke in 10H/L of Rasi, shows how it can effect or show your working..as above. 4.If it is not lord , it can show external influences. Like Ke in 5H of D10 can show devoted/headless students or in 6H can show similar staff in your work place, if in service. 5. Ke in 2H of Rasi, can make one stammer. How you speak is 2H from Rasi, what you speak is 2H from Mercury. 6. Denial of fruits..now why should Ketu deny us fruits of karma.because it wants Moksha. So Ketu in 12H can delay marriage. Ke in 7H can give adultery if you dont have family ?!..if you do it wont give that. So basically we need to know what Ke does in each house? I think we need to look at the nodes together. Perhaps one should look at what arudha Ke conjoins...it is that area one can maek a sudden mistake..thats what I look at. Hope this helps but may not be the answer you wanted. Best Sharat sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote:>> Hi Sharat,> > agreed that Ke in 10h in D-10 can also indicate compus, but can also > indicate export isnt it? Routine job i thought was when Lord of 10h > conj Ke> i also read that with Ke in 10h (in rasi) they are like headless > execs meaning will just do the job as told - but how come quick > thinkers without a head (Ke=headless?) - no! thatz not what i wud > want an answer for!> > the ques is with Ke in a hs fruits of that hs are denied - so if Ke > is in 2h, how does it create an overtly verbal native may be with > clear speech - shdnt it make someone dumb?> > ofcourse we see other parameters maybe, but focussing on denial of > fruits any ideas?> > Thanx a tonne> SS> > sohamsa , "Sharat" gidoc@ wrote:> >> > Dear SS,> > Ketu in 7H, can give ' adultery' esp if Ve is in 12H (curse of > Tulsi).> > As Rafal ji said, Ketu in 10H from Rasi shows how you work..the > work is likely to be routine. But I can appreciate as Rafal says that > it can show someone who thinks spontaneously and quickly, I know such > a person too. It is said thta Ke in 10H in D10 can show someone who > works with small machines, computers.> > > > Best wishes> > Sharat> > > > - > > Soul Sadhak > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:50 AM> > Re: fruits of a house> > > > > > Thanx Rafal and Sharat,> > > > So what we r saying is that the statement in COVA pertains to the > hs > > of placement and not to the one 2nd to it?> > > > Also what is an ill-placed Ke in 7th hs? (same pg)....does it > mean > > that Ke in any hs other than upachaya is ill-placed or that there > can > > be something like a well-placed Ke in 7h to?> > (like for benefics, if they r in friend's hs /well aspected/conj > > benefics etc makes them well-placed - howz it for Ke in quadrants > and > > trines?> > > > Ke we say makes one headless (eg headless executor...shd say > > executive?) or spiritual so if Ke is in 10h cud it well be that > the > > person's work is asso. with spiritual type of work or say in > > spiritual organisation?> > > > Thanx a tonne> > SS> > > > sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Sharat napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > That is an interesting comment. Sanjay ji does say in one his > > lectures > > > > that the arudha associated with Ketu, shows the area of life > we > > can > > > > make a mistake.> > > >> > > > I have seen Ketu in 10H as well as 10th from Moon, associated > > with > > > > great careers, so will it not depend upon how auspicious Ra-> Ket > > are > > > > in one's chart.> > > >> > > > Can you please say when do we consider Ra-Ket to give Rajyoga > > apart > > > > from being in upachayas.> > > >> > > > Thanks and regards> > > >> > > > Sharat> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear SS,> > > > >> > > > > This is because Ketu represents mahasunyam. Ketu in tenth > gives > > havoc> > > > > planning, quick mind (10H is Mana also) and administration > > havoc (if> > > > > strong then good intuition), this graha when in fifth, > tenth or > > tenth> > > > > from Moon can be very bad for career and native often has > > delays in his> > > > > profesional life. Malefics in Upachaya are good for native > > support and> > > > > work - they also give long life and raja yoga.> > > > >> > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > >> > > > > > It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of > that > > hs are> > > > > > denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, > the hs > > 2nd to> > > > > > the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs > of > > concern;> > > > > > so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then > > fruits as> > > > > > indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the > > statement of> > > > > > COVA pertain to 10h.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 om gurave namah Dear SS Vivaha Phalam is 5th house... Best Wishes Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://jiva.us http://siva-edu-com http://sagittariuspublications.com http://.org sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Soul SadhakMonday, July 30, 2007 5:36 PMsohamsa Subject: fruits of a house Hi All,It is said that in whichever hs Ke is placed, fruits of that hs are denied (pg 256, COVA). Also if i understand correctly, the hs 2nd to the hs of concern indicates the fruits (phalam) of the hs of concern; so does it mean that if Ke is in 10h (e.g. career), then fruits as indicated by 11h (e.g. income) will be denied or wud the statement of COVA pertain to 10h.Thanx a tonneSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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