Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

July 31, 2007

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Sharat,

Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject

line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle,

however there are two points to it.

1.

You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example,

if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to

Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

2.

You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th

house, instead of Lagna.

In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with

Moon and Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury

are in the 10th house. Benefics placement in Kendra gives great

support in life, which is being done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a

powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th, hence there is a

boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon in the lagna

would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them are debilitated.

You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this

works.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sharat

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM

sohamsa

Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (

correction)

||Namah

Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your

Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.

VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I

was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn

is YK for my Libra ascendant.

The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my

natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji

mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving in the right direction

as per AL.

He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and

then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL,

while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed,

as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.

Best wishes

Sharat

July 31, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? That will make a difference as well.

You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in Aquarius)

My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in 1/7 axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind wanderings'.

Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan with Ra, in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more responsibilty for my family than ever before!

Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that makes me think this change makes sense.

I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change further.

Best wishes

Sharat

(for your ref I attach my chart)

-

Sarajit Poddar

sohamsa

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM

Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Sharat,

Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle, however there are two points to it.

1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example, if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th house, instead of Lagna.

In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house. Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is being done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them are debilitated.

You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of SharatTuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness ( correction)

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.

VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn is YK for my Libra ascendant.

The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving in the right direction as per AL.

He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed, as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.

Best wishes

Sharat

July 31, 2007

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Sharat,

Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets.

There is no re-computation of Arudha… It’s always reckoned computed from Lagna.

You can check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.

Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your

gains). If they are well placed from 12th house, the person must

move out. If they are good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sharat

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM

sohamsa

Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change??

That will make a difference as well.

You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in

Aquarius)

My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in

1/7 axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind

wanderings'.

Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan

with Ra, in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much

more responsibilty for my family than ever before!

Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that

makes me think this change makes sense.

I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change

further.

Best wishes

Sharat

(for your ref I attach my chart)

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Original Message -----

Sarajit Poddar

sohamsa

Tuesday, July 31,

2007 7:47 PM

Shifting

focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Sharat,

Since you have changed the subject, I

have changed the subject line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an

important principle, however there are two points to it.

1. You do not need to change the lordship

of planets. For example, if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after

I have moved to Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

2. You see the placement of planets and

yoga from the 12th house, instead of Lagna.

In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th

house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house;

Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house. Benefics placement in

Kendra gives great support in life, which is being done by Jupiter. In

addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th,

hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon

in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them are

debilitated.

You can apply these principles to your

chart and see if this works.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Sharat

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM

sohamsa

Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (

correction)

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for your response again, I have also

been awaiting your Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.

VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of

learning.

Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will

change more things soon. I was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in

10H in Cancer although Saturn is YK for my Libra ascendant.

The next turning point may be when Jupiter

in transit (over my natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

I wanted to touch upon an interesting

concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving

in the right direction as per AL.

He says if one moves to foreign land, to

make the 12H as lagna and then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h

in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has

completely changed, as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet

tooth'.

Will appreciate your thoughts if you have

had any such experience.

Best wishes

Sharat

July 31, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks .

Just wondering if this would work in Vargas like Dasamsa.? Any thoughts!

Best wishes

Sharat

-

Sarajit Poddar

sohamsa

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:53 PM

RE: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Sharat,

Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There is no re-computation of Arudha… It’s always reckoned computed from Lagna. You can check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.

Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your gains). If they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If they are good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of SharatTuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? That will make a difference as well.

You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in Aquarius)

My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in 1/7 axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind wanderings'.

Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan with Ra, in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more responsibilty for my family than ever before!

Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that makes me think this change makes sense.

I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change further.

Best wishes

Sharat

(for your ref I attach my chart)

-

Sarajit Poddar

sohamsa

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM

Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Sharat,

Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle, however there are two points to it.

1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example, if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th house, instead of Lagna.

In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house. Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is being done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them are debilitated.

You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of SharatTuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PMsohamsa Subject: Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness ( correction)

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.

VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn is YK for my Libra ascendant.

The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving in the right direction as per AL.

He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed, as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.

Best wishes

Sharat

July 31, 2007

Dear Sarajit and Sharat,

It's really hard to agree with your conclusions with any

conviction, but Sharat's " Jupiter in Lagna causing a love for

sweets " comment make me remain open :-) I have been in the US for

almost 18 yrs now. I dont think this " taking Lagna as the 12th

house " works very well in my case (29 June 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46,

22N12, +5:30GMT, rectified). My birth chart has no planets in

Kendra. You would think my life in India was " without support " , no?

Actually not, life in India was definitely easier than here. Also, I

have lived in several places for long periods. I think each place

brings with it its own modification of the chart. I once tried

Richard Houck's method (constructing a birth chart at the place you

are *currently* living but at the exact time you were born) which

seemed a little better.

Also I lived in Nigeria, Africa from 1972-1978. That was very

different from life in the US. I had an extremely tough time at

school, frequently fearful of being ambushed and beaten up. Not at

all the same as the US (my educational experience here was excellent

from 1989-1996). When you take 12th house as Lagna, exalted

Simhasanamsa Jupiter moves to the 7th, and it is originally ruler of

the 2nd and 11th. Shouldnt that give me significant Hamsa Yoga

results? None so far, neither in Nigeria in the 6 yrs I was there,

nor in the US. But Jupiter, 2L is in the parivartana with the Moon,

6L, and sure enough in Venus dasa, Moon antardasa (while in the US)

I went headlong into huge debt. I mean all these things can be seen

from the birth chart, what do I attribute to the modified 12th-house-

as-Lagna chart.

So the real question is: Where do you draw the line in merging Lagna

and 12th-from Lagna based influences?

Thanks,

Sundeep

sohamsa , " Sarajit Poddar "

<sarajit.poddar wrote:

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There

is no

> re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed from

Lagna. You can

> check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.

>

> Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your

gains). If

> they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If

they are

> good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change??

That will

> make a difference as well.

>

> You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in

Aquarius)

>

> My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously

in 1/7

> axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind

wanderings'.

>

> Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in

parivartan with Ra,

> in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more

> responsibilty for my family than ever before!

>

> Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

>

> Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that

makes me

> think this change makes sense.

>

> I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change

further.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

> (for your ref I attach my chart)

>

> -

>

> Sarajit Poddar <sarajit.poddar

>

> sohamsa

>

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM

>

> Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject

line of the

> mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle,

however

> there are two points to it.

>

> 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For

example, if

> Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to

> Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

>

> 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th

house,

> instead of Lagna.

>

> In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu

in it.

> Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th

house.

> Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is

being

> done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-

karmadhipatya yoga

> in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However,

presence

> of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and

suffering

> as both of them are debilitated.

>

> You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ] On

Behalf Of

> Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (

> correction)

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your

Singapore

> site to take off..although I live in UK.

>

> VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

>

> Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon.

I was

> under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer

although Saturn

> is YK for my Libra ascendant.

>

> The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my

natal Saturn

> in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

>

> I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji

mentions. Of

> course he cites your example about moving in the right direction

as per AL.

>

> He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and

then

> judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th

fromAL, while

> Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely

changed, as

> if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

>

> Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

July 31, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sundeep,

I have looked at these options for a while now and Sarajit today has re-affirmed.

Basically I have great faith in Sanjay ji's words, perhaps that is why I believe in it. I dont think this may work favorably in all cases, perhaps where there is a ' loaded' 8H and 12H with benefics.

Lets examine your chart in a different way.

Look at the changes it brings, basically lagna continues to be owned by Saturn but important change is: Nodes in kendra , Ra in 4H gives you foreign education Ketu moving to 10H, making you work spontaneously/quickly which is good as Ke in 9H makes you give up society norms ( go to the mountains perhaps), Venus isnt MKS any more thus good for relationships. Mars moves to 9H, giving possiblities of litigation/fights being unlucky but Mo from 3H aspecting 9H can make things favourable for you.Ju , vara lord , becomes conjunt with Venus, thus giving good health following re-location. 10L from Moon in original rasi, is in dushthana(6H) making you seek work abroad. Its change to 7H forebodes well for career. However parivartan with Moon in 3H, makes Ju in MKS and hence will cause problems depending upon dasas.

The mahapurush yogas(Ve,Ju) may not work as Sun/Aditya cannot sustain it.

Do you think all this has been happening?

Regarding chart change on relocation, I change the time zone in original birth time, so dasa becomes accurate including a more accurate TPC.

Best wishes

Sharat

-

vedicastrostudent

sohamsa

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:22 PM

Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

Dear Sarajit and Sharat,It's really hard to agree with your conclusions with any conviction, but Sharat's "Jupiter in Lagna causing a love for sweets" comment make me remain open :-) I have been in the US for almost 18 yrs now. I dont think this "taking Lagna as the 12th house" works very well in my case (29 June 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30GMT, rectified). My birth chart has no planets in Kendra. You would think my life in India was "without support", no? Actually not, life in India was definitely easier than here. Also, I have lived in several places for long periods. I think each place brings with it its own modification of the chart. I once tried Richard Houck's method (constructing a birth chart at the place you are *currently* living but at the exact time you were born) which seemed a little better.Also I lived in Nigeria, Africa from 1972-1978. That was very different from life in the US. I had an extremely tough time at school, frequently fearful of being ambushed and beaten up. Not at all the same as the US (my educational experience here was excellent from 1989-1996). When you take 12th house as Lagna, exalted Simhasanamsa Jupiter moves to the 7th, and it is originally ruler of the 2nd and 11th. Shouldnt that give me significant Hamsa Yoga results? None so far, neither in Nigeria in the 6 yrs I was there, nor in the US. But Jupiter, 2L is in the parivartana with the Moon, 6L, and sure enough in Venus dasa, Moon antardasa (while in the US) I went headlong into huge debt. I mean all these things can be seen from the birth chart, what do I attribute to the modified 12th-house-as-Lagna chart.So the real question is: Where do you draw the line in merging Lagna and 12th-from Lagna based influences?Thanks,Sundeepsohamsa , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit.poddar wrote:>> || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > > > Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There is no> re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed from Lagna. You can> check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.> > > > Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your gains). If> they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If they are> good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM> sohamsa > Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? That will> make a difference as well.> > You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in Aquarius)> > My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in 1/7> axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind wanderings'.> > Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan with Ra,> in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more> responsibilty for my family than ever before! > > Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.> > Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that makes me> think this change makes sense.> > I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change further.> > > > Best wishes> > Sharat> > (for your ref I attach my chart)> > > > > > - > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit.poddar > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM> > Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject line of the> mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle, however> there are two points to it.> > 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example, if> Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to> Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.> > 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th house,> instead of Lagna.> > In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it.> Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house.> Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is being> done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga> in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence> of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering> as both of them are debilitated.> > You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.> > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM> sohamsa > Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (> correction)> > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your Singapore> site to take off..although I live in UK.> > VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.> > Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I was> under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn> is YK for my Libra ascendant.> > The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my natal Saturn> in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.> > I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of> course he cites your example about moving in the right direction as per AL.> > He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and then> judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while> Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed, as> if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.> > Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.> > Best wishes> > Sharat>

August 1, 2007

Dear Sharat,

Actually most of what actually happened fits in much better with

the birth chart. Specifically:

[sharat] Look at the changes it brings, basically lagna continues to

be owned by Saturn but important change is: Nodes in kendra , Ra in

4H gives you foreign education Ketu moving to 10H, making you work

spontaneously/quickly which is good as Ke in 9H makes you give up

society norms ( go to the mountains perhaps)

From 1989-1996 I was running Ketu mahadasha, virtually all of it in

the US. Exactly according to its 9th house placement I was fully

engrossed in higher studies. And exactly as you say for Ketu in 9th

house I was a loner - spent most of time locked away alone in my

own " mountains " i.e in my university office, doing research until

the wee hours of the morning. And for a significant part of the

dasa, I was viewed by many people as a bit of a crazy guy... " giving

up society norms " ..

[sharat] Venus isnt MKS any more thus good for relationships.

All my relationships and relationship tensions (lots of it) were in

the US, none in India.

[sharat] Mars moves to 9H, giving possiblities of litigation/fights

being unlucky but Mo from 3H aspecting 9H can make things favourable

for you.

No litigations fights at all anywhere, so I cant comment whether I'd

be lucky or unlucky.

[sharat] Ju , vara lord , becomes conjunt with Venus, thus giving

good health following re-location.

Definitely good health in US

[sharat] 10L from Moon in original rasi, is in dushthana(6H) making

you seek work abroad. Its change to 7H forebodes well for career.

I went through Ketu-Jupiter and Venus-Jupiter (currently running). I

cant recall anything significant from a career point of view.

Mercury-Jupiter in India was excellent, lots of success in

competitive examinations.

[sharat] However parivartan with Moon in 3H, makes Ju in MKS and

hence will cause problems depending upon dasas.

The mahapurush yogas(Ve,Ju) may not work as Sun/Aditya cannot

sustain it.

All Sun antaradasas have been remarkably excellent especially from

an academic/career point of view. Mercury-Sun in India, Ketu-Sun in

the US, Venus-Sun in the US.

In general, it should be evident from the above why I'm a little

reluctant to accept the conclusion.. However, perhaps there's a

different way to look at it that makes more sense?

Sundeep

August 1, 2007

Namaskar,

I do understand that Lagna is changed to 12 H.However , how about

Navamsha? Do we keep it as the original one or if it needs to be

changed- how to adjust?

One more question, some people go back to native land after say 20

years. Will their lagna come back to original ? Also can this second

relocation be preidcted according to the natal lagna or the 12 H

lagna?

Thanks

Suchitra

sohamsa , " Sharat " <gidoc wrote:

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

> Dear Sarajit,

> Thanks .

> Just wondering if this would work in Vargas like Dasamsa.? Any

thoughts!

> Best wishes

> Sharat

>

> -

> Sarajit Poddar

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:53 PM

> RE: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets.

There is no re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed

from Lagna. You can check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from

12th house.

>

> Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your

gains). If they are well placed from 12th house, the person must

move out. If they are good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never

move out

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change??

That will make a difference as well.

>

> You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju

in Aquarius)

>

> My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously

in 1/7 axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind

wanderings'.

>

> Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in

parivartan with Ra, in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I

have had much more responsibilty for my family than ever before!

>

> Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

>

> Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never

before...that makes me think this change makes sense.

>

> I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change

further.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

> (for your ref I attach my chart)

>

> -

>

> Sarajit Poddar

>

> sohamsa

>

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM

>

> Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject

line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important

principle, however there are two points to it.

>

> 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For

example, if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I

have moved to Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

>

> 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th

house, instead of Lagna.

>

> In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and

Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in

the 10th house. Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in

life, which is being done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a

powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th, hence there is a

boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon in the

lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them

are debilitated.

>

> You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this

works.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son

illness ( correction)

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your

Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.

>

> VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

>

> Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things

soon. I was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in

Cancer although Saturn is YK for my Libra ascendant.

>

> The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my

natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

>

> I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji

mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving in the right

direction as per AL.

>

> He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna

and then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo,

4th fromAL, while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life

has completely changed, as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of

spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

>

> Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such

experience.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

August 1, 2007

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Namaskar,

I think I gave a wrong impression by saying the lagna changes. I

should have said, the point from which you reckon the houses change. The vargas

remain intact.

Anyway, I have not applied this principle on Varga. Those who

are interested can see if it works in the vargas or not. Anyway, you must note

that 12th houses in the varga does not necessarily mean relocation

to foreign land.

Best Wishes

Sarajiit

sohamsa

[sohamsa ] On Behalf Of suchitra_kamath

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:37 PM

sohamsa

Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

Namaskar,

I do understand that Lagna is changed to 12 H.However , how about

Navamsha? Do we keep it as the original one or if it needs to be

changed- how to adjust?

One more question, some people go back to native land after say 20

years. Will their lagna come back to original ? Also can this second

relocation be preidcted according to the natal lagna or the 12 H

lagna?

Thanks

Suchitra

sohamsa ,

" Sharat " <gidoc wrote:

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

> Dear Sarajit,

> Thanks .

> Just wondering if this would work in Vargas like Dasamsa.? Any

thoughts!

> Best wishes

> Sharat

>

> -

> Sarajit Poddar

> sohamsa

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:53 PM

> RE: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets.

There is no re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed

from Lagna. You can check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from

12th house.

>

> Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your

gains). If they are well placed from 12th house, the person must

move out. If they are good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never

move out

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change??

That will make a difference as well.

>

> You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju

in Aquarius)

>

> My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously

in 1/7 axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind

wanderings'.

>

> Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in

parivartan with Ra, in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I

have had much more responsibilty for my family than ever before!

>

> Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

>

> Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never

before...that makes me think this change makes sense.

>

> I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change

further.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

> (for your ref I attach my chart)

>

> -

>

> Sarajit Poddar

>

> sohamsa

>

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM

>

> Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject

line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important

principle, however there are two points to it.

>

> 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For

example, if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I

have moved to Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

>

> 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th

house, instead of Lagna.

>

> In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and

Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in

the 10th house. Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in

life, which is being done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a

powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th, hence there is a

boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon in the

lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them

are debilitated.

>

> You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this

works.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son

illness ( correction)

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your

Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.

>

> VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

>

> Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things

soon. I was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in

Cancer although Saturn is YK for my Libra ascendant.

>

> The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my

natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

>

> I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji

mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving in the right

direction as per AL.

>

> He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna

and then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo,

4th fromAL, while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life

has completely changed, as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of

spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

>

> Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such

experience.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

August 1, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Suchitra,

I have only used this in Rasi chart.

It should be seen as per original chart when native returns to home country. For return, one must see strong dasa/planet in Lagna/4H and the influence of 9/12H having depleted.

Best

Sharat

sohamsa , "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath wrote:>> Namaskar,> > I do understand that Lagna is changed to 12 H.However , how about > Navamsha? Do we keep it as the original one or if it needs to be > changed- how to adjust?> > One more question, some people go back to native land after say 20 > years. Will their lagna come back to original ? Also can this second > relocation be preidcted according to the natal lagna or the 12 H > lagna?> > Thanks> Suchitra> sohamsa , "Sharat" gidoc@ wrote:> >> > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks .> > Just wondering if this would work in Vargas like Dasamsa.? Any > thoughts!> > Best wishes> > Sharat> > > > - > > Sarajit Poddar > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:53 PM> > RE: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for > relocation> > > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > > > Dear Sharat,> > > > > > > > Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. > There is no re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed > from Lagna. You can check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from > 12th house.> > > > > > > > Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your > gains). If they are well placed from 12th house, the person must > move out. If they are good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never > move out> > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > Sarajit> > > > > > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On Behalf Of Sharat> > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM> > sohamsa > > Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for > relocation> > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Sarajit,> > > > Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? > That will make a difference as well.> > > > You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju > in Aquarius)> > > > My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously > in 1/7 axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind > wanderings'.> > > > Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in > parivartan with Ra, in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I > have had much more responsibilty for my family than ever before! > > > > Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.> > > > Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never > before...that makes me think this change makes sense.> > > > I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change > further.> > > > > > > > Best wishes> > > > Sharat> > > > (for your ref I attach my chart)> > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sarajit Poddar > > > > sohamsa > > > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM> > > > Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for > relocation> > > > > > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > > > Dear Sharat,> > > > Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject > line of the mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important > principle, however there are two points to it.> > > > 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For > example, if Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I > have moved to Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.> > > > 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th > house, instead of Lagna.> > > > In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and > Rahu in it. Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in > the 10th house. Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in > life, which is being done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a > powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga in the 10th, hence there is a > boost in career prospects. However, presence of Rahu and Moon in the > lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering as both of them > are debilitated.> > > > You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this > works.> > > > Best Wishes> > > > Sarajit> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] > On Behalf Of Sharat> > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM> > sohamsa > > Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son > illness ( correction)> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > > > Dear Sarajit,> > > > Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your > Singapore site to take off..although I live in UK.> > > > VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.> > > > Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things > soon. I was under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in > Cancer although Saturn is YK for my Libra ascendant.> > > > The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my > natal Saturn in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.> > > > I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji > mentions. Of course he cites your example about moving in the right > direction as per AL.> > > > He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna > and then judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, > 4th fromAL, while Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life > has completely changed, as if Ju is in Lagna with onset of > spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.> > > > Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such > experience.> > > > Best wishes> > > > Sharat> >>

August 1, 2007

om gurave namah

Dear Sundeep

Lordships do not change in this analysis. Do not treat the 12th house as a lagna for seeing lordships.

Hamsa and other Mahapurusha yoga are Tattva related...the lagna cannot change as that is your physical makeup and so the tattva do not change, excet slight variations in dasa.

Use the natural signs of the various places or else use KaTaPaYadi varga or some suitable varga for the various places you visit.

What Houck uses is an adaptation from Modern Western Astrology...can we really change ourselves by simply changing places?? What then to speak of those who jet set all the time around the world and have two or more residences simultaneously?

If you can attach jhd chart then I can check Nigeria and others.

No planets in kendras does not mean *no support*. In fact only malefics in kendras can be poor support. It is not important that kendras have planets, it is important that they have *strong* planets. If too many malefics are weak in kendras, the native is given for adoption!!

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

http://srath.com http://jiva.us http://siva-edu-com http://sagittariuspublications.com http://.org

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vedicastrostudentWednesday, August 01, 2007 2:53 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

Dear Sarajit and Sharat,It's really hard to agree with your conclusions with any conviction, but Sharat's "Jupiter in Lagna causing a love for sweets" comment make me remain open :-) I have been in the US for almost 18 yrs now. I dont think this "taking Lagna as the 12th house" works very well in my case (29 June 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30GMT, rectified). My birth chart has no planets in Kendra. You would think my life in India was "without support", no? Actually not, life in India was definitely easier than here. Also, I have lived in several places for long periods. I think each place brings with it its own modification of the chart. I once tried Richard Houck's method (constructing a birth chart at the place you are *currently* living but at the exact time you were born) which seemed a little better.Also I lived in Nigeria, Africa from 1972-1978. That was very different from life in the US. I had an extremely tough time at school, frequently fearful of being ambushed and beaten up. Not at all the same as the US (my educational experience here was excellent from 1989-1996). When you take 12th house as Lagna, exalted Simhasanamsa Jupiter moves to the 7th, and it is originally ruler of the 2nd and 11th. Shouldnt that give me significant Hamsa Yoga results? None so far, neither in Nigeria in the 6 yrs I was there, nor in the US. But Jupiter, 2L is in the parivartana with the Moon, 6L, and sure enough in Venus dasa, Moon antardasa (while in the US) I went headlong into huge debt. I mean all these things can be seen from the birth chart, what do I attribute to the modified 12th-house-as-Lagna chart.So the real question is: Where do you draw the line in merging Lagna and 12th-from Lagna based influences?Thanks,Sundeepsohamsa , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit.poddar wrote:>> || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > > > Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There is no> re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed from Lagna. You can> check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.> > > > Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your gains). If> they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If they are> good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM> sohamsa > Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? That will> make a difference as well.> > You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in Aquarius)> > My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in 1/7> axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind wanderings'.> > Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan with Ra,> in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more> responsibilty for my family than ever before! > > Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.> > Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that makes me> think this change makes sense.> > I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change further.> > > > Best wishes> > Sharat> > (for your ref I attach my chart)> > > > > > - > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit.poddar > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM> > Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject line of the> mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle, however> there are two points to it.> > 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example, if> Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to> Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.> > 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th house,> instead of Lagna.> > In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it.> Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house.> Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is being> done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga> in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence> of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering> as both of them are debilitated.> > You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.> > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM> sohamsa > Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (> correction)> > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your Singapore> site to take off..although I live in UK.> > VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.> > Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I was> under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn> is YK for my Libra ascendant.> > The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my natal Saturn> in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.> > I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of> course he cites your example about moving in the right direction as per AL.> > He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and then> judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while> Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed, as> if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.> > Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.> > Best wishes> > Sharat>

August 1, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Sanjayji,

How to see natural sign of place/city? If we use the name of the city

then we can be trapped by the convention, names are choosed based on

some (sometimes unreasonable) decisions, while karma is above

conventions, how to resolve that issue?

Please give example of Nigeria on one of the chart.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Sanjay Rath napisał(a):

om gurave

namah

Dear Sundeep

Lordships do not change in this analysis. Do not treat

the 12th house as a lagna for seeing lordships.

Hamsa and other Mahapurusha yoga are Tattva

related...the lagna cannot change as that is your physical makeup and

so the tattva do not change, excet slight variations in dasa.

Use the natural signs of the various places or else use

KaTaPaYadi varga or some suitable varga for the various places you

visit.

What Houck uses is an adaptation from Modern Western

Astrology...can we really change ourselves by simply changing

places?? What then to speak of those who jet set all the time around

the world and have two or more residences simultaneously?

If you can attach jhd chart then I can check Nigeria

and others.

No planets in kendras does not mean *no support*. In

fact only malefics in kendras can be poor support. It is not important

that kendras have planets, it is important that they have *strong*

planets. If too many malefics are weak in kendras, the native is given

for adoption!!

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

http://srath.com http://jiva.us http://siva-edu-com http://sagittariuspublications.com http://.org

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of vedicastrostudent

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:53 AM

sohamsa

Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house

for relocation

Dear Sarajit and Sharat,

It's really hard to agree with your conclusions with any

conviction, but Sharat's "Jupiter in Lagna causing a love for

sweets" comment make me remain open :-) I have been in the US for

almost 18 yrs now. I dont think this "taking Lagna as the 12th

house" works very well in my case (29 June 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46,

22N12, +5:30GMT, rectified). My birth chart has no planets in

Kendra. You would think my life in India was "without support", no?

Actually not, life in India was definitely easier than here. Also, I

have lived in several places for long periods. I think each place

brings with it its own modification of the chart. I once tried

Richard Houck's method (constructing a birth chart at the place you

are *currently* living but at the exact time you were born) which

seemed a little better.

Also I lived in Nigeria, Africa from 1972-1978. That was very

different from life in the US. I had an extremely tough time at

school, frequently fearful of being ambushed and beaten up. Not at

all the same as the US (my educational experience here was excellent

from 1989-1996). When you take 12th house as Lagna, exalted

Simhasanamsa Jupiter moves to the 7th, and it is originally ruler of

the 2nd and 11th. Shouldnt that give me significant Hamsa Yoga

results? None so far, neither in Nigeria in the 6 yrs I was there,

nor in the US. But Jupiter, 2L is in the parivartana with the Moon,

6L, and sure enough in Venus dasa, Moon antardasa (while in the US)

I went headlong into huge debt. I mean all these things can be seen

from the birth chart, what do I attribute to the modified 12th-house-

as-Lagna chart.

So the real question is: Where do you draw the line in merging Lagna

and 12th-from Lagna based influences?

Thanks,

Sundeep

sohamsa ,

"Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajit.poddar wrote:

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There

is no

> re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed from

Lagna. You can

> check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.

>

> Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your

gains). If

> they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If

they are

> good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On

Behalf Of

> Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change??

That will

> make a difference as well.

>

> You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in

Aquarius)

>

> My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously

in 1/7

> axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind

wanderings'.

>

> Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in

parivartan with Ra,

> in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more

> responsibilty for my family than ever before!

>

> Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.

>

> Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that

makes me

> think this change makes sense.

>

> I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change

further.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

> (for your ref I attach my chart)

>

> -

>

> Sarajit Poddar <sarajit.poddar

>

> sohamsa

>

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM

>

> Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

>

> Dear Sharat,

>

> Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject

line of the

> mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle,

however

> there are two points to it.

>

> 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For

example, if

> Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to

> Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.

>

> 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th

house,

> instead of Lagna.

>

> In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu

in it.

> Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th

house.

> Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is

being

> done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-

karmadhipatya yoga

> in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However,

presence

> of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and

suffering

> as both of them are debilitated.

>

> You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Sarajit

>

> sohamsa

[sohamsa ]

On

Behalf Of

> Sharat

> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (

> correction)

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your

Singapore

> site to take off..although I live in UK.

>

> VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.

>

> Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon.

I was

> under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer

although Saturn

> is YK for my Libra ascendant.

>

> The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my

natal Saturn

> in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.

>

> I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji

mentions. Of

> course he cites your example about moving in the right direction

as per AL.

>

> He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and

then

> judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th

fromAL, while

> Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely

changed, as

> if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.

>

> Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Sharat

>

August 1, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Sanjay ji,

Grateful for your response on this..It does seem that Shani moving out of Karaka has opened more doors..like I was saying to Sarajit,

I opened this concept here based on your teaching.

I noticed that the spirituality/jyotish knowledge I was experiencing and the craving for sweets ( never before ) began when I moved North to UK from India. Ju is 4 th from AL

in 12H and now appears to be in the asccendant. It did involve major career move abroad and I still wonder if it will work out in the long run!

Will appreciate your valued comments(Jhora chart attached)

Best wishes

Sharat

-

Sanjay Rath

sohamsa

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:50 PM

RE: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

om gurave namah

Dear Sundeep

Lordships do not change in this analysis. Do not treat the 12th house as a lagna for seeing lordships.

Hamsa and other Mahapurusha yoga are Tattva related...the lagna cannot change as that is your physical makeup and so the tattva do not change, excet slight variations in dasa.

Use the natural signs of the various places or else use KaTaPaYadi varga or some suitable varga for the various places you visit.

What Houck uses is an adaptation from Modern Western Astrology...can we really change ourselves by simply changing places?? What then to speak of those who jet set all the time around the world and have two or more residences simultaneously?

If you can attach jhd chart then I can check Nigeria and others.

No planets in kendras does not mean *no support*. In fact only malefics in kendras can be poor support. It is not important that kendras have planets, it is important that they have *strong* planets. If too many malefics are weak in kendras, the native is given for adoption!!

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

http://srath.com http://jiva.us http://siva-edu-com http://sagittariuspublications.com http://.org

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vedicastrostudentWednesday, August 01, 2007 2:53 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

Dear Sarajit and Sharat,It's really hard to agree with your conclusions with any conviction, but Sharat's "Jupiter in Lagna causing a love for sweets" comment make me remain open :-) I have been in the US for almost 18 yrs now. I dont think this "taking Lagna as the 12th house" works very well in my case (29 June 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30GMT, rectified). My birth chart has no planets in Kendra. You would think my life in India was "without support", no? Actually not, life in India was definitely easier than here. Also, I have lived in several places for long periods. I think each place brings with it its own modification of the chart. I once tried Richard Houck's method (constructing a birth chart at the place you are *currently* living but at the exact time you were born) which seemed a little better.Also I lived in Nigeria, Africa from 1972-1978. That was very different from life in the US. I had an extremely tough time at school, frequently fearful of being ambushed and beaten up. Not at all the same as the US (my educational experience here was excellent from 1989-1996). When you take 12th house as Lagna, exalted Simhasanamsa Jupiter moves to the 7th, and it is originally ruler of the 2nd and 11th. Shouldnt that give me significant Hamsa Yoga results? None so far, neither in Nigeria in the 6 yrs I was there, nor in the US. But Jupiter, 2L is in the parivartana with the Moon, 6L, and sure enough in Venus dasa, Moon antardasa (while in the US) I went headlong into huge debt. I mean all these things can be seen from the birth chart, what do I attribute to the modified 12th-house-as-Lagna chart.So the real question is: Where do you draw the line in merging Lagna and 12th-from Lagna based influences?Thanks,Sundeepsohamsa , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit.poddar wrote:>> || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > > > Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There is no> re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed from Lagna. You can> check how AL and other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.> > > > Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your gains). If> they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If they are> good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM> sohamsa > Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? That will> make a difference as well.> > You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in Aquarius)> > My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in 1/7> axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind wanderings'.> > Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan with Ra,> in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more> responsibilty for my family than ever before! > > Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.> > Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that makes me> think this change makes sense.> > I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change further.> > > > Best wishes> > Sharat> > (for your ref I attach my chart)> > > > > > - > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit.poddar > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM> > Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject line of the> mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle, however> there are two points to it.> > 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example, if> Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to> Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.> > 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th house,> instead of Lagna.> > In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it.> Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house.> Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is being> done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga> in the 10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence> of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering> as both of them are debilitated.> > You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.> > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM> sohamsa > Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (> correction)> > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your Singapore> site to take off..although I live in UK.> > VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.> > Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I was> under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn> is YK for my Libra ascendant.> > The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my natal Saturn> in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.> > I wanted to touch upon an interesting concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of> course he cites your example about moving in the right direction as per AL.> > He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and then> judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while> Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed, as> if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.> > Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.> > Best wishes> > Sharat>

August 1, 2007

Dear Sanjayji, Thank you very much for your response and the new pieces of information. Lots for me to think about.. Meanwhile, please find my chart attached in jhd format Sundeep om gurave namah Dear Sundeep Lordships do not change in this analysis. Do not treat the 12th house as a lagna for seeing lordships. Hamsa and other Mahapurusha yoga are Tattva related...the lagna cannot change as that is your physical makeup and so the tattva do not change, excet slight variations in dasa. Use the natural signs of the various places or else use KaTaPaYadi varga or some suitable varga for the various places you visit. What Houck uses is an adaptation from Modern Western Astrology...can we really change ourselves by simply changing places?? What then to speak of those who jet set all the time around the world and have two or more residences simultaneously? If you can attach jhd chart then I can check Nigeria and others. No planets in kendras does not mean *no support*. In fact only malefics in kendras can be poor support. It is not important that kendras have planets, it is important that they have

*strong* planets. If too many malefics are weak in kendras, the native is given for adoption!! Best Wishes Sanjay Rath http://srath.com http://jiva.us http://siva-edu-com http://sagittariuspublications.com http://.org

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of vedicastrostudentWednesday, August 01, 2007 2:53 AMsohamsa Subject: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation Dear Sarajit and Sharat,It's really hard to agree with your conclusions with any conviction, but Sharat's "Jupiter in Lagna causing a love for sweets" comment make me remain open :-) I have been in the US for almost 18 yrs now. I dont think this "taking Lagna as the 12th house" works very well in my case (29 June 1967, 23:00pm, 78E46, 22N12, +5:30GMT, rectified). My birth chart has no planets in Kendra. You would think my life in India was "without support", no?

Actually not, life in India was definitely easier than here. Also, I have lived in several places for long periods. I think each place brings with it its own modification of the chart. I once tried Richard Houck's method (constructing a birth chart at the place you are *currently* living but at the exact time you were born) which seemed a little better.Also I lived in Nigeria, Africa from 1972-1978. That was very different from life in the US. I had an extremely tough time at school, frequently fearful of being ambushed and beaten up. Not at all the same as the US (my educational experience here was excellent from 1989-1996). When you take 12th house as Lagna, exalted Simhasanamsa Jupiter moves to the 7th, and it is originally ruler of the 2nd and 11th. Shouldnt that give me significant Hamsa Yoga results? None so far, neither in Nigeria in the 6 yrs I was there, nor in the US. But Jupiter, 2L is in the

parivartana with the Moon, 6L, and sure enough in Venus dasa, Moon antardasa (while in the US) I went headlong into huge debt. I mean all these things can be seen from the birth chart, what do I attribute to the modified 12th-house-as-Lagna chart.So the real question is: Where do you draw the line in merging Lagna and 12th-from Lagna based influences?Thanks,Sundeepsohamsa , "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit.poddar wrote:>> || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > > > Good analysis. You can consider Arudhas same way as Planets. There is no> re-computation of Arudha. It's always reckoned computed from Lagna. You can> check how AL and

other Arudhas are placed from 12th house.> > > > Always give emphasis to the Kendra (your support) and Kona (your gains). If> they are well placed from 12th house, the person must move out. If they are> good w.r.t. Lagna, the person should never move out> > > > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:44 PM> sohamsa > Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> > > > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Yes, that makes sense. What about arudhas..do they not change?? That will> make a difference as well.> > You will see some similarities in our charts( My navamsa has Ju in Aquarius)> > My Ju( retro), moves to Lagna and aspects 10H; Ra-Ket previously in 1/7> axis, move to 2/8, there has been relief from Rahu's ' mind wanderings'.> > Su-Me-Ve move from 'confusion' in 5H to 6H, but Ve is in parivartan with Ra,> in 2H, so Ve Lagnesh acts like in 2H..indeed I have had much more> responsibilty for my

family than ever before! > > Ke in 8H is leading me to Jyotish.> > Ju in lagna has made me crave for sweets like never before...that makes me> think this change makes sense.> > I think when Ju becomes direct shortly...things will change further.> > > > Best wishes> > Sharat> > (for your ref I attach my chart)> > > > > > - > > Sarajit Poddar <sarajit.poddar > > sohamsa > > Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:47 PM> > Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation> >

> > || Jaya Jagannath ||> > Dear Sharat,> > Since you have changed the subject, I have changed the subject line of the> mail for future reference. Yes, this is an important principle, however> there are two points to it.> > 1. You do not need to change the lordship of planets. For example, if> Jupiter is my Lagna lord (Sagittarius lagna), after I have moved to> Singapore, Jupiter still remains the lagna lord.> > 2. You see the placement of planets and yoga from the 12th house,> instead of Lagna.> > In my case, Lagna shifts to 12th house Scorpio, with Moon and Rahu in it.> Jupiter in the 4th house; Sun, Mars and Mercury are in the 10th house.> Benefics placement in Kendra gives great support in life, which is being> done by Jupiter. In addition, there is a powerful dharma-karmadhipatya yoga> in the

10th, hence there is a boost in career prospects. However, presence> of Rahu and Moon in the lagna would give me enough of stress and suffering> as both of them are debilitated.> > You can apply these principles to your chart and see if this works.> > Best Wishes> > Sarajit> > sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of> Sharat> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:28 PM> sohamsa > Re: Re: Fathers suffering due to Son illness (> correction)> > ||Namah Shivaya||> > Dear Sarajit,> > Thanks for your response again, I have also been awaiting your Singapore> site to take off..although I live in UK.> > VRA is indeed an amazing treatise of learning.> > Yes, indeed I feel Saturn's transit will change more things soon. I was> under Kantaka shani for past 2 1/2 yrs, Mo in 10H in Cancer although Saturn> is YK for my Libra ascendant.> > The next turning point may be when Jupiter in transit (over my natal Saturn> in scorpio in 2H) turns direct next week.> > I wanted to touch upon an

interesting concept which Sanjay ji mentions. Of> course he cites your example about moving in the right direction as per AL.> > He says if one moves to foreign land, to make the 12H as lagna and then> judge the planetary positions. I have Ju in 12h in Virgo, 4th fromAL, while> Ju MD made me move North from India to UK, life has completely changed, as> if Ju is in Lagna with onset of spirituality and ' sweet tooth'.> > Will appreciate your thoughts if you have had any such experience.> > Best wishes> > Sharat>

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||Om Guruvee Namah||Dear Sharat, Namaskar. Ju is 4 th from ALI have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju 4th from AL".Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able to understand its relevance in your moving to UK? Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.Best RegardsAjay Zharotiaajayzharotia

August 2, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Ajay,

4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get success..in my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from India to UK.

I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's teaching.

Best

Sharat

-

Ajay Zharotia

sohamsa

Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM

Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

||Om Guruvee Namah||

Dear Sharat, Namaskar

.. Ju is 4 th from AL

I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju 4th from AL".

Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

Best Regards

Ajay Zharotia

ajayzharotia

August 2, 2007

||Om Gurave Namah||Dear Sharat, NamaskarI asked this question purposely because I knew there is some mixing up of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have directional strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or ALVenus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or ALSaturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which means he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could mean any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had shifted to Singapore.So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength of Jup in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if associated with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in physical plain. I hope this will help. Best RegardsAjay Zharotiaajayzharotia On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:||Namah Shivaya||Dear Ajay,4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get success..in my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from India to UK.I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's teaching.BestSharat -Ajay Zharotiasohamsa Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AMRe: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation||Om Guruvee Namah||Dear Sharat, Namaskar. Ju is 4 th from ALI have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju 4th from AL".Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able to understand its relevance in your moving to UK? Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.Best RegardsAjay Zharotiaajayzharotia

August 2, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Jyotishas,

Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some

Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas.

And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a good

guide:)

If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

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Ajay Zharotia napisał(a):

||Om Gurave Namah||

Dear Sharat, Namaskar

I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some

mixing up of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.

Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have

directional strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha

lagna.

Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL

Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL

Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)

Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)

When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the

physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.

In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which

means he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is

represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could mean

any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had shifted to

Singapore.

So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength

of Jup in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if

associated with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in

physical plain.

I hope this will help.

Best Regards

Ajay Zharotia

ajayzharotia@ gmail.com

On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Ajay,

4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and '

directional strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get

success..in my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from

India to UK.

I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is

Sanajy ji's teaching.

Best

Sharat

-

Ajay

Zharotia

sohamsa@

..com

Thursday, August 02, 2007

7:34 AM

Re: Re:

Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

||Om Guruvee Namah||

Dear Sharat, Namaskar

. Ju is 4 th from AL

I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail

"Ju 4th from AL".

Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not

been able to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

Best Regards

Ajay Zharotia

ajayzharotia@

gmail.com

August 2, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Ajay,

Namaskar,

Thanks for your input, appreciate it. I understand the concept and I remember Sarajit's example.

I recollect from Sanjay ji's Dasamsa workshop : benefic in 4th from AL, as he said, gives all the support you need and can indicate physical direction as well. Perhaps I understood it wrong and that can happen only if it has digbala, although he mentioned only about 4th from AL ' a single planet here can giving all you want'.

Best wishes

Sharat

-

Ajay Zharotia

sohamsa

Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:29 PM

Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

||Om Gurave Namah||

Dear Sharat, Namaskar

I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some mixing up of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.

Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have directional strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.

Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL

Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL

Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)

Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)

When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.

In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which means he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could mean any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had shifted to Singapore.

So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength of Jup in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if associated with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in physical plain.

I hope this will help.

Best Regards

Ajay Zharotia

ajayzharotia

On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Ajay,

4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get success..in my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from India to UK.

I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's teaching.

Best

Sharat

-

Ajay Zharotia

sohamsa

Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM

Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation

||Om Guruvee Namah||

Dear Sharat, Namaskar

.. Ju is 4 th from AL

I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju 4th from AL".

Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

Best Regards

Ajay Zharotia

ajayzharotia

August 3, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Rafal,

Namaskar,

So youre saying that if I have Ju in12h from Lagna, it does have digbala...and it makes one a good guide..in the sense of being a a guiding force/guru.

In the same sense if Lagnesh is in yuti with Me/Ju, both will have digbala?

Thanks

Best wishes

Sharatsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Jyotishas,> > Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some > Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas.> > And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a good > guide:)> > If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl> > > Ajay Zharotia napisa?(a):> >> > ||Om Gurave Namah||> >> >> > Dear Sharat, Namaskar> >> > I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some mixing up > > of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.> >> > Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have directional > > strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.> >> > Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL> > Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL> > Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)> > Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)> >> > When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the > > physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.> > In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which means > > he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is > > represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could mean > > any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had shifted > > to Singapore.> >> > So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength of Jup > > in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if associated > > with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in physical plain. > >> > I hope this will help.> > > > Best Regards> >> > Ajay Zharotia> > ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia >> >> >> > On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:> >> >>> >> ||Namah Shivaya||> >> Dear Ajay,> >> 4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional > >> strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get success..in > >> my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from India to UK.> >> I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's teaching.> >> Best> >> Sharat> >> > >>> >> -> >> ** Ajay Zharotia <ajayzharotia >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa > >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th> >> house for relocation> >>> >>> >> ||Om Guruvee Namah||> >>> >> Dear Sharat, Namaskar> >>> >>> . Ju is 4 th from AL> >>>> >>> >> I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju 4th from> >> AL".> >> Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able> >> to understand its relevance in your moving to UK? > >> Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.> >>> >>> >> Best Regards> >>> >> Ajay Zharotia> >> ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia >>> >>> >>> >> >>

August 3, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Sharat,

Digbala from pakalagna - ive never heard about it. Ju in 12 has digbala

(some).

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Sharat napisał(a):

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Rafal,

Namaskar,

So youre saying that if I have Ju in12h from Lagna, it does have

digbala...and it makes one a good guide..in the sense of being a a

guiding force/guru.

In the same sense if Lagnesh is in yuti with Me/Ju, both will

have digbala?

Thanks

Best wishes

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Jyotishas,

>

> Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some

> Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas.

>

> And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a

good

> guide:)

>

> If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

>

> Ajay Zharotia napisa?(a):

> >

> > ||Om Gurave Namah||

> >

> > Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >

> > I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some

mixing up

> > of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.

> >

> > Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have

directional

> > strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL

> > Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL

> > Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)

> > Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)

> >

> > When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in

the

> > physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.

> > In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL

which means

> > he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which

is

> > represented as south east in the physical plain. South East

could mean

> > any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had

shifted

> > to Singapore.

> >

> > So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional

strength of Jup

> > in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if

associated

> > with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in

physical plain.

> >

> > I hope this will help.

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > Ajay Zharotia

> > ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >

> > On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> ||Namah Shivaya||

> >> Dear Ajay,

> >> 4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and '

directional

> >> strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get

success..in

> >> my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North,

from India to UK.

> >> I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy

ji's teaching.

> >> Best

> >> Sharat

> >>

> >> -

> >> ** Ajay Zharotia <ajayzharotia

> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@

. com

> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM

> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to

12th

> >> house for relocation

> >>

> >> ||Om Guruvee Namah||

> >>

> >> Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >>

> >>> . Ju is 4 th from AL

> >>>

> >>

> >> I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju

4th from

> >> AL".

> >> Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not

been able

> >> to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

> >> Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

> >>

> >> Best Regards

> >>

> >> Ajay Zharotia

> >> ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >>

> >

>

August 3, 2007

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Rafal,

I am not aware of planets having digbala in the 12th

house. Planets have digbala only in the Kendras. This is because Dik is closely

related to the ayanas.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal

Gendarz

Friday, August 03, 2007 1:05 PM

sohamsa

Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Sharat,

Digbala from pakalagna - ive never heard about it. Ju in 12 has digbala (some).

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Sharat napisa³(a):

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Rafal,

Namaskar,

So youre saying that if I have Ju in12h from Lagna, it does have

digbala...and it makes one a good guide..in the sense of being a a guiding

force/guru.

In the same sense if Lagnesh is in yuti with Me/Ju, both will have

digbala?

Thanks

Best wishes

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Jyotishas,

>

> Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some

> Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas.

>

> And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a good

> guide:)

>

> If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Ajay Zharotia napisa?(a):

> >

> > ||Om Gurave Namah||

> >

> > Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >

> > I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some mixing

up

> > of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.

> >

> > Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have directional

> > strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL

> > Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL

> > Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)

> > Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)

> >

> > When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the

> > physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.

> > In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which means

> > he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is

> > represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could

mean

> > any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had shifted

> > to Singapore.

> >

> > So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength of Jup

> > in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if

associated

> > with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in physical

plain.

> >

> > I hope this will help.

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > Ajay Zharotia

> > ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >

> > On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> ||Namah Shivaya||

> >> Dear Ajay,

> >> 4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional

> >> strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get

success..in

> >> my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from India

to UK.

> >> I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's

teaching.

> >> Best

> >> Sharat

> >>

> >> -

> >> ** Ajay Zharotia <ajayzharotia

> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@

. com

> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM

> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th

> >> house for relocation

> >>

> >> ||Om Guruvee Namah||

> >>

> >> Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >>

> >>> . Ju is 4 th from AL

> >>>

> >>

> >> I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail " Ju 4th

from

> >> AL " .

> >> Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able

> >> to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

> >> Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

> >>

> >> Best Regards

> >>

> >> Ajay Zharotia

> >> ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >>

> >

>

August 3, 2007

hraum

namah adityaya

Dear Sarajit,

The main one, yes. 'Some' digbal can be related to associated bhavas

which was presented in Kalachakra paper by Sanjay Rath.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Sarajit Poddar napisa³(a):

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Rafal,

I am not aware of planets having digbala in the 12th

house. Planets have digbala only in the Kendras. This is because Dik is

closely

related to the ayanas.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa] On

Behalf Of Rafal

Gendarz

Friday, August 03, 2007 1:05 PM

sohamsa@ .com

Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th

house for

relocation

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Sharat,

Digbala from pakalagna - ive never heard about it. Ju in 12 has digbala

(some).

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

Sharat napisa³(a):

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Rafal,

Namaskar,

So youre saying that if I have Ju in12h from Lagna, it does have

digbala...and it makes one a good guide..in the sense of being a a

guiding

force/guru.

In the same sense if Lagnesh is in yuti with Me/Ju, both will

have

digbala?

Thanks

Best wishes

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Jyotishas,

>

> Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some

> Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas.

>

> And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a

good

> guide:)

>

> If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Ajay Zharotia napisa?(a):

> >

> > ||Om Gurave Namah||

> >

> > Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >

> > I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some

mixing

up

> > of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.

> >

> > Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have

directional

> > strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL

> > Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL

> > Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)

> > Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)

> >

> > When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in

the

> > physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.

> > In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL

which means

> > he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which

is

> > represented as south east in the physical plain. South East

could

mean

> > any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had

shifted

> > to Singapore.

> >

> > So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional

strength of Jup

> > in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if

associated

> > with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in

physical

plain.

> >

> > I hope this will help.

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > Ajay Zharotia

> > ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >

> > On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> ||Namah Shivaya||

> >> Dear Ajay,

> >> 4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and '

directional

> >> strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get

success..in

> >> my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North,

from India

to UK.

> >> I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy

ji's

teaching.

> >> Best

> >> Sharat

> >>

> >> -

> >> ** Ajay Zharotia <ajayzharotia

> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@

. com

> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM

> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to

12th

> >> house for relocation

> >>

> >> ||Om Guruvee Namah||

> >>

> >> Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >>

> >>> . Ju is 4 th from AL

> >>>

> >>

> >> I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju

4th

from

> >> AL".

> >> Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not

been able

> >> to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

> >> Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

> >>

> >> Best Regards

> >>

> >> Ajay Zharotia

> >> ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >>

> >

>

August 3, 2007

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Sarajit,

My understanding is similar to that

of Rafal. e.g. Jupiter has digbala in east, so maximum in 1H and

least in 7H, in other houses proportion to the distance from 1H.

Regards

Ramesh

sarajit.poddar

Sent by: sohamsa

08/03/2007 09:39 AM

Please respond to

sohamsa

To

sohamsa

cc

Subject

RE: Re: Shifting focus of

chart to 12th house for relocation

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Rafal,

I am not aware of planets having digbala

in the 12th house. Planets have digbala only in the Kendras.

This is because Dik is closely related to the ayanas.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ]

On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

Friday, August 03, 2007 1:05 PM

sohamsa

Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for

relocation

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Sharat,

Digbala from pakalagna - ive never heard about it. Ju in 12 has digbala

(some).

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Sharat napisa³(a):

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Rafal,

Namaskar,

So youre saying that if I have Ju in12h from Lagna, it

does have digbala...and it makes one a good guide..in the sense of being

a a guiding force/guru.

In the same sense if Lagnesh is in yuti with Me/Ju, both

will have digbala?

Thanks

Best wishes

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Jyotishas,

>

> Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some

> Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas.

>

> And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a

good

> guide:)

>

> If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.

com

> Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Ajay Zharotia napisa?(a):

> >

> > ||Om Gurave Namah||

> >

> > Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >

> > I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some

mixing up

> > of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good.

> >

> > Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have directional

> > strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna.

> >

> > Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL

> > Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL

> > Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu)

> > Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu)

> >

> > When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the

> > physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra.

> > In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which

means

> > he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is

> > represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could

mean

> > any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had

shifted

> > to Singapore.

> >

> > So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength

of Jup

> > in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if associated

> > with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in physical

plain.

> >

> > I hope this will help.

> >

> > Best Regards

> >

> > Ajay Zharotia

> > ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >

> > On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> ||Namah Shivaya||

> >> Dear Ajay,

> >> 4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional

> >> strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get

success..in

> >> my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from

India to UK.

> >> I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's

teaching.

> >> Best

> >> Sharat

> >>

> >> -

> >> ** Ajay Zharotia <ajayzharotia

> >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa@

. com

> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM

> >> *Subject:* Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th

> >> house for relocation

> >>

> >> ||Om Guruvee Namah||

> >>

> >> Dear Sharat, Namaskar

> >>

> >>> . Ju is 4 th from AL

> >>>

> >>

> >> I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail " Ju

4th from

> >> AL " .

> >> Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been

able

> >> to understand its relevance in your moving to UK?

> >> Or is it something you else who want to convey by that.

> >>

> >> Best Regards

> >>

> >> Ajay Zharotia

> >> ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia

> >>

> >

>

August 4, 2007

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Ramesh and Rafal it sounds very logical, but can you use it in reading? To say "yes you will get "some" support in northeastern direction" if it is in 12th from lagna or AL? I believe that it should be clear position to give results. And Sharat how you got that UK is in northern direction from India (and whose direction you used)?Thank you in advanceBest wishes, Bojan Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote: Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sarajit, My understanding is similar to that of Rafal. e.g. Jupiter has digbala in east, so maximum in 1H and least in 7H, in other houses proportion to the distance from 1H. Regards Ramesh sarajit.poddar Sent by: sohamsa 08/03/2007 09:39 AM Please respond to sohamsa To sohamsa cc Subject RE: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Rafal, I am not aware of planets having digbala in the 12th house. Planets have digbala only in the Kendras. This is because Dik is closely

related to the ayanas. Best Wishes Sarajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz Friday, August 03, 2007 1:05 PM sohamsa Re: Re: Shifting focus of chart to 12th house for relocation hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, Digbala from pakalagna - ive never heard about it. Ju in 12 has digbala (some). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Sharat napisa³(a): ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Rafal, Namaskar, So youre saying that if I have Ju in12h from Lagna, it does have digbala...and it makes one a good guide..in the sense of being a a guiding force/guru. In the same sense if Lagnesh is in yuti with Me/Ju, both will have digbala? Thanks Best wishes Sharat sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Jyotishas, > > Digbala can be also in 2 or 12 like Mercury and Jupiter have some > Digbala in 2 / 12 bhavas. > > And if native has digbal from Lagna (esp Lagnesh) then person is a good > guide:) > > If its dig from Karakamsa then that particular Ayana is strong. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > Ajay

Zharotia napisa?(a): > > > > ||Om Gurave Namah|| > > > > > > Dear Sharat, Namaskar > > > > I asked this question purposely because I knew there is some mixing up > > of the concepts. Benefices in 4th from AL are definitely good. > > > > Now let me clear some of the doubts here. Planets have directional > > strengths based on their position from Lagna or Arudha lagna. > > > > Mercury and Jupiter in lagna or AL > > Venus and Moon in 4th house from lagna or AL > > Saturn in 7th house from lagna or AL (Rahu) > > Sun and Mars in 10th house from lagna or AL (Ketu) > > > > When Planet have digbala from AL the person get success in the > > physical directions indicated by them as per the Dikchakra. > > In case for Sarajit, he has Venus in digbala, 4th from AL which means >

> he is likely to get success/travel in Venus direction which is > > represented as south east in the physical plain. South East could mean > > any nation in SE Asia. As soon as his Ve dasa started he had shifted > > to Singapore. > > > > So, Jup 4th from AL does not indicate any directional strength of Jup > > in your chart, because Jup will get directional strength if associated > > with lagna or AL. Moreover jupiter rules NE direction in physical plain. > > > > I hope this will help. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Ajay Zharotia > > ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia > > > > > > > > On 02-Aug-07, at 10:28 PM, Sharat wrote: > > > >> > >>

||Namah Shivaya|| > >> Dear Ajay, > >> 4 th from AL gives ' support ' in all ventures and ' directional > >> strength ' . It can indicates direction of travel to get success..in > >> my case Ju in Virgo, so movement in Ju dasa was North, from India to UK. > >> I am sure you are familiar with this, as this is Sanajy ji's teaching. > >> Best > >> Sharat > >> > >> > >> - > >> ** Ajay Zharotia <ajayzharotia > >> *To:* sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa > >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:34 AM > >> *Subject:* Re: Re:

Shifting focus of chart to 12th > >> house for relocation > >> > >> > >> ||Om Guruvee Namah|| > >> > >> Dear Sharat, Namaskar > >> > >>> . Ju is 4 th from AL > >>> > >> > >> I have notice this statement repeatedly in your mail "Ju 4th from > >> AL". > >> Can you explain what does it mean. Some how I have not been able > >> to understand its relevance in your moving to UK? > >> Or is it something you else who want to convey by that. > >> > >> > >> Best Regards > >> > >> Ajay Zharotia > >> ajayzharotia@ gmail.com <ajayzharotia > >> > >> > >> >

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