Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Jyotisha, I have uploaded an article on Aprakash Grahas and Upagrahas to the file section. I wrote this article sometimes back for Singapore Class. Hope you would enjoy it. You can access it using link http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/oHivRo64WOVyf9_-r1Kxn67RuPmsDtGj8cctlSm6pcRD1o1kriCP_Vin9Z5yjTEqjMszh4STNYbW6WpkVepR1atEM9xfcmA/Sarajit%27s%20Articles/Upagrahas%20-%20Sarajit.pdf Best Wishes Sarajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sarajitji, Thank You for Your nice articles. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Sarajit Poddar napisał(a): || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Jyotisha, I have uploaded an article on Aprakash Grahas and Upagrahas to the file section. I wrote this article sometimes back for Singapore Class. Hope you would enjoy it. You can access it using link http://f1.grp. fs.com/ v1/oHivRo64WOVyf 9_-r1Kxn67RuPmsD tGj8cctlSm6pcRD1 o1kriCP_Vin9Z5yj TEqjMszh4STNYbW6 WpkVepR1atEM9xfc mA/Sarajit% 27s%20Articles/ Upagrahas% 20-%20Sarajit. pdf Best Wishes Sarajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Mr. Sarajit Poddar, I think your article may need some corrections, 1. The translation of Sloka. 69 needs correction.The lord of 8th portion is lord less.The portion of Saturn is represented by Gulika. BPHS SAYS : Gulika's longitude is calculated based on Istakal of the bigening of Saturn PORTION, where as Kalidas in Uttar-Kalamirta suggest ending point ( kindly appericiate , on this point the duration of lordless period starts and should not reperesent Gulika). Pt. Sanjay Rath agrees with this view and feels that we shold follow Parasara. Again , you have taken the Istakala for MANDI as suggested by Kalidas , which is based on Dinman or Ratriman of 32 Gatis. If Dinman is 32 Gatis then Ratriman should be 28 gatis and vica-varsa. As such there seems to be an inbuilt falicy In fact, Mandi is located in the middle of Saturn's portion. As a matter of fact, this may be the intent of Kalidas also.JH-hora software is also calculating Mandi on this basis. In case you agree with above narration , you may ,as well , amend some of your tables. With best respectS and regards. G.K.GOEL G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dear Mr. Sarajit Poddar, I think your article may need some corrections, 1. The translation of Sloka. 69 needs correction.The lord of 8th portion is lord less.The portion of Saturn is represented by Gulika. BPHS SAYS : Gulika's longitude is calculated based on Istakal of the bigening of Saturn PORTION, where as Kalidas in Uttar-Kalamirta suggest ending point ( kindly appericiate , on this point the duration of lordless period starts and should not reperesent Gulika). Pt. Sanjay Rath agrees with this view and feels that we shold follow Parasara. Again , you have taken the Istakala for MANDI as suggested by Kalidas , which is based on Dinman or Ratriman of 32 Gatis. If Dinman is 32 Gatis then Ratriman should be 28 gatis and vica-varsa. As such there seems to be an inbuilt falicy In fact, Mandi is located in the middle of Saturn's portion. As a matter of fact, this may be the intent of Kalidas also.JH-hora software is also calculating Mandi on this basis. In case you agree with above narration , you may ,as well , amend some of your tables. With best respectS and regards. G.K.GOEL G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear Goel sa’ab, Namaste, Thank you for raising this point. I have thought over this issue while I was writing the article. Here are my comments: 1. About the position of Mandi, for the sake of computation of the Mandi, Kalidas asked us to divide the day or night duration into 32 parts. This however, does not mean he wants us to consider that the day or night duration to be of 32 parts and other of 28 parts. Let me explain this. When the day duration is divided into 32 parts, you can consider this as divided into 8 parts, with 4 subpart each. This can also be interpreted as, he wants us to divide the day into 8 yama and each yama into 4 parts each. If we do that, the end of 2nd part or beginning of 3rd part would represent the middle of the yama (or yamardha). When he says that that Mandi will rise at 26th, 22nd, 18th etc. part of 32 parts on Su, Mo, Tu etc., he means that, on the said days, Mandi will rise in the middle of Saturn’s yama. Same way, we need to divide the night duration into 32 parts and that is meant only for computation of Mandi… So I do not see any fallacy. Anyway, we are saying the same thing for Mandi, it rises in the middle of Saturn’s portion. 2. Gulika: If we divide the day duration into 8 parts or yamas, then each part would be governed by the Sun to Saturn in a weekday order starting from lord of the day from Sunrise. When we say 8th part is lordless, it means that there is no weekday lord for that part. As per my understanding, that part is governed by Gulika and the beginning of that part is called the gulikodaya kala or the rising time of Gulika. So Gulika should rise at the initiation of his yama or end of Saturn’s yama. Anyway, there are many controversy on this topic. However, I think that Pt. Rath agrees with gulika rising at end of Saturn’s yama as per his book Jaimini Sutras. This is what he says over there: * * * * * * * * Gulika is an Upagraha and is called the child of Saturn. The day duration is divided into 8 parts (called Yama) and, beginning from the weekday lord, in the sequence of the days of the week, each planet owns one part. The eight part is owned by Gulika. Thus, Gulika is the ascendant for the time ending the part ruled by Saturn. For example on a Wednesday (day birth), Saturn owns the 4th part. If the day duration was exactly 12 hours and the Sunrise at exactly 6 a.m., Gulika would rise at the end of the fourth part i.e. 12 ´ 4/8 = 6 hrs after Sunrise or 12:00 Noon.. * * * * * * * * Bases on the above explanation, there should not be any changes to the computation. In JHORA, there is an option of changing the rising time of Gulika. I keep it to end of Saturn’s position. Regards Sarajit Gopal Goel [gkgoel1937] Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:43 AM sohamsa Cc: sarajit.poddar Re: Aprakash Grahas and Upagrahas Dear Mr. Sarajit Poddar, I think your article may need some corrections, 1. The translation of Sloka. 69 needs correction.The lord of 8th portion is lord less.The portion of Saturn is represented by Gulika. BPHS SAYS : Gulika's longitude is calculated based on Istakal of the bigening of Saturn PORTION, where as Kalidas in Uttar-Kalamirta suggest ending point ( kindly appericiate , on this point the duration of lordless period starts and should not reperesent Gulika). Pt. Sanjay Rath agrees with this view and feels that we shold follow Parasara. Again , you have taken the Istakala for MANDI as suggested by Kalidas , which is based on Dinman or Ratriman of 32 Gatis. If Dinman is 32 Gatis then Ratriman should be 28 gatis and vica-varsa. As such there seems to be an inbuilt falicy In fact, Mandi is located in the middle of Saturn's portion. As a matter of fact, this may be the intent of Kalidas also.JH-hora software is also calculating Mandi on this basis. In case you agree with above narration , you may ,as well , amend some of your tables. With best respectS and regards. G.K.GOEL G.K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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